If Something Causes Chest Pains, It’s A Bad Idea

I never stopped being amazed at all the ways the Paleo-Game Cult ignores reality.  Gamers ignore the fact that game isn’t getting them laid.  Paleo dieters ignore the fact that they aren’t losing weight, etc.  Here’s the latest absurd avoidance of reality that I found from them.

However, I does have another question. I’ve been eating the occasional burger that I cook myself via pan when it’s too cold out to grill, and since on Mark’s Daily Apple it’s wise to keep and consume bacon fat for it’s fullness factor… I’ve been consuming the fat/grease/stuff that remains after I pan-cook a burger (when it’s too cold out).

I would like to ask if this is alright or not before it becomes a regular thing. I get an occasional chest pain after doing so, but I can’t pinpoint it to this practice just yet. Is Beef fat healthy? (Eventually I’ll be on to grass-fed only meats, but until then, I have a supply of things to get rid of first. This is just to inform that it is not grass-fed).

When a normal person gets chest pains, they do things like stop doing things they think might be causing it and go see a DOCTOR.  A member of the Paleo-Game Cult keeps doing the thing that causes chest pains and asks Hawaiian Fat Blob about it.  I’m kind of speechless about this.  What can be said about this?  It speaks for itself.  If something is giving you chest pains, it’s a bad idea to keep doing it.  Chest pains are something you should have checked out by a doctor.  This is obvious to anyone with an IQ of at least 10, but the Paleo-Game Cult thinks that doctors are all conspiring against them.

The fact is that game, the paleo diet, etc. don’t deliver any results its proponents claim.  Instead you end up with things like chest pains.  What more evidence do you need that something is a bad idea?

Conspiracy Theorists Have Done NOTHING For You

On PMAFT’s post about Susan Walsh’s conspiracy theories a commenter named AmStrat said the following about conspiracy theorists.

What have these conspiracy theorists done for Men facing divorce, criminal persecution and crowding out of work, education (well, the good kind anyway) by affirmative action (the main winners of which are women)?

NOTHING.

That’s right.  Conspiracy theorists have done absolutely nothing.  I expanded on that in the following comment.

All too true. The MRM used to be dominated by conspiracy theorists until the last 15 years or so. When the MRM was dominated by conspiracy theorists, what did they do? Nothing but pat each other on the back for passing back conspiracy theories about the Rockefellers and Communists to each other. While they did that, those of us in the next generation were watching our fathers get thrown out of their homes by our mothers and divorce courts, our friends get force fed ritalin and other drugs on the orders of female teachers, our older brothers not get jobs because of affirmative action and false sexual harassment accusations, and we had to suffer years of feminist indoctrination in feminized public schools. The conspiracy theorists were AWOL because they aren’t interested in anti-feminism but being pure contrarians. This will become apparent when conspiracy theorists turn on the MRM for being mainstream once the MRM becomes mainstream enough.

It’s actually worse than what I wrote.  There are conspiracy theorists from Alex Jones, to David Icke, to Henry Makow who have real audiences.  What have the big names in conspiracy theory done for anti-feminism?  NOTHING.  David Icke is a feminist, and he has followers that actually take Andrea Dworkin seriously beliving that the elite are using feminism as a secret scheme to destroy women and turn men into “post-sexual cyborgs with artifical wombs”.  Alex Jones fabricates non-existent threats to freedom like FEMA camps that don’t exist while ignoring how the false rape industry, the false sexual harassment industry, and the divorce courts are destroying the freedom of men and how feminized public schools are destroying the freedom of boys.  When it comes to false accusations against men, Henry Makow always takes the side of the woman who makes a false accusation like he did with DSK.  All the big names in conspiracy theory are making up threats to freedom while they ignore the real threats to freedom created by feminism, none of which are secret.  In many cases they are directly supporting feminism.

Even conspiracy theorists who claim to be MRAs have done jack shit.  They even try to convince others that activism is a bad idea like conspiracy theorist Rob Fedders does.

What does it say to you when MRM activism is about “raising money to form lobby groups” and furthermore, so we can “achieve equality” by perhaps even “sueing the government for discrimination”?

Is not every major MRM leader not begging the government for crumbs? Is not demanding the government provide us with shared-parenting also requesting slavery?

Is supporting Warren Farrell’s drive to create a White House Council on Men and Boys also not part of the dialectic where we request the government take control of intimate areas of our lives? The man, after all, wants to creat more androgyny as his solution to the gender war… and simply because he is on “our side,” the MRM supports him, and his principles, in requesting moretotalitarianism in our lives.

Stephen Baskerville is a man who had his reputationcreated because government intrusion screweed him over so badly… and yet, at the end of the majority of his op-eds, his demand is for more equality, and for morerestructuring of the courts, and for more government organizations to be formed to “take note.”

Should Glenn Sacks have had his way, Political Correctness would have expanded to include men as a protected victim group… giving hate-speech lobby groups yet more power.

Hell, even AH supports creating “MRM Organisms” to counter the vast left-wing organisms that have grown up over the past decades! Is that not the exact purpose of the dialectic? To set up such vast, but opposing political positions, which will battle eachother until every last ounce of freedom has been rung from us?

Hawaiian Fat Blob, another do nothing conspiracy theorist, agrees with this.

I too have come to think a lot about the MGTOW/MRA/MRM/PUA blogosphere and how so many of them have become the dialectical opposition of the feminazi’s most of us want to fight. The antithesis to the feminazi thesis. Creating a political “movement” would merely lead to a new synthesis.

It seems to me that we now have several “manosphere” blogs that I suspect are false flag operations designed to escalate the gender war and sow dissension amongst those of us striving to expose the truth and combat systemic injustices.

This is precisely why I have always opposed trying to form some sort of “movement” to try and effect political change.

I believe much of our problems were created by getting the masses to buy into collectivism…and the answer to collectivist problems should not be collectivist solutions, that would just lead to more “progressive” synthesis.

Conspiracy theorists are opposed to anyone taking action against feminism whether it’s activists like Farrell, Baskerville, and Sacks or guys who take MGTOW and going ghost seriously like the Japanese herbivores.  They even now accuse men who are taking some action (wherever it is on the activism-going ghost continuum) of being “false flag operations”.  That means that the conspiracy theorists think that various MGTOW & MRA blogs are secretly working for the government or whoever they think is behind the conspiracy.  (Of course, they are too cowardly to actually name blogs that they think are “false flag operations”.)  In other words, if you want to take any serious action against feminism, conspiracy theorists are always against it and will accuse you of working for the Jews/Illuminati/Zionists/Rockefellers/etc.  If you’re in trouble because of feminism, conspiracy theorists will NEVER help you.

With their talk about how men who become activists against feminism are bad, it’s very noticable that they didn’t include Paul Elam in their list of activists.  There is no real difference between Elam and Farrell/Baskerville/Sacks except that Elam hasn’t had as much mainstream success yet as Farrell, Baskerville, & Sacks.  As soon as Elam has enough mainstream success, the conspiracy theorists will turn on him and accuse Elam of being a “false flag operation”.

I said before that conspiracy theorists would turn on the MRM as soon as it got mainstream enough, and we now have examples of this with their “false flag” BS and attacks of anti-feminist activists.  (I never though I would be able to get evidence of conspiracy theorists turning on the MRM this soon.)

Conspiracy theorists also call any attempt at anti-feminist activism, “collectivist”.  There’s nothing “collectivist” about it.  It’s nothing more than multiple men working together.  That isn’t “collectivist” unless you’re a hermit like a Roissyite gamer typically is.

What we must take from all of this is that conspiracy theorists are less than useless for mens rights.  They have never done anything for us, never will do anything for us, and consider any action against feminism to be a “false flag operation” and “collectivist”.  They are already starting to turn on us and will fully oppose us out when the MRM becomes mainstream enough.

Susan Walsh Is Mentally Ill

Some of you out there still defend Susan Walsh.  If you still defend her after reading this article, then there is something wrong with you.

I was reading PMAFT’s blog, and his latest entry was about how someone informed him what Susan Walsh said about him and me.  Let’s read what was said.

Something doesn’t smell right about Mr. Tim. Why is the story of every over 30 male virgin the same? They are all successful men professionally and financially or about to be like Mr. Tim but women ignore them. Financial and professional success and success with women go together. I have never found a case where they didn’t.

I think Mr. Tim is going to be another White & Nerdy in a few months following the same trajectory White & Nerdy did. Anytime I have seen a man over 30 who says that he’s a virgin he always does things that promote the elite depopulation agenda. This is no coincidence. These over 30 male virgins are here to promote gender war which serves the elite’s depopulation agenda.

This pile of bullshit continues…

@runningman

I owe you an apology. I thought you were one of the over 30 male virgins. The so called “mens rights” movement is filled with agents of the elite promoting gender war for the purposes of depopulation. I have it on good authority that over 30 virgin males are the primary group recruited by the elite for that purpose.

Clearly, you are not a part of that, and I see that now. I misinterpreted your email, and I’m sorry.

@Susan

With more info about runningman, I see that he’s nothing like Mr. White & Nerdy. I owed him an apology, and I made that apology.

With that said, the so called “mens rights” movement was manufactured by the elite just as feminism was. Gloria Steinem worked for the CIA, and there are agents of the elite in the mens rights movement too. Both sides of the gender war are funded by the elite just as the funded both sides of various wars in history. Virgin males over 30 make excellent recruiting targets for the elite especially the angrier ones. Mr. White & Nerdy is a good example, but he is not the only one. It’s a safe bet Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech also works for the elite because he is deeply embedded in the military-industrial-security state complex. He was an over 30 virgin. Supposedly he isn’t anymore, but it doesn’t matter if he is or isn’t a virgin now.

There are others working for the elite that aren’t virgins over 30. It’s clear that The Fifth Horseman works for the elite. The elite is now obsessed with transhumanism, and The Fifth Horseman promotes a “mens rights transhumanism” which is technological gender war.

I suspect others in the mens rights movement of working for the elite but these are the only three I am certain about.

What does “elite depopulation agenda” mean?  Among conspiracy theorists it’s a belief that the elite are going to at some point in the future cull the world population down half a billion or billion or somewhere around there.  In other words, conspiracy theorists believe the super rich are planning the largest GENOCIDE in history.  This “David Jones” who wrote this has done nothing less than accuse PMAFT, The Fifth Horseman of being a party to this.  He has accused of us of helping to plan and execute GENOCIDE.

Any sane person who reads this would regard it as the bullshit of a mentally ill person.  That goes triple because the idea that the super rich are recruiting guys who are virgins past 30 is beyond batcrap crazy.  However, the Paleo-Game Cult and its female auxiliary (which includes Susan Walsh) are not sane.

@David Jones
That’s a pretty compelling story you’re telling there.

You read that right.  Susan Walsh considers the insane idea that I’m (along with other guys who are older virgins) working with the super rich to plan and execute GENOCIDE to be COMPELLING.  Susan Walsh has accused me more or less of being the equivalent of an attendee of the Wannsee Conference that led to the Holocaust.  I knew that the Paleo-Game Cult was suffering from something close to paranoid schizophrenia, but I had no idea it was this bad.

PMAFT had some good commentary about Susan Walsh’s motivations in making such absurd false accusations.  He also provided a link showing how conspiracy theorists were more willing than non-conspiracy theorists to be members of conspiracies.  The link even said, “These studies suggest that people who have more lax personal morality may endorse conspiracy theories to a greater extent because they are, on average, more willing to participate in the conspiracies themselves.”  What all of this conspiracy theory crap is in essence is a massive case of projection.  Susan Walsh and the Paleo-Game Cult if given the opportunity would engage in a conspiracy to go after their percived enemies such as myself.  It’s a massive case of projection.  Since they’re accusing me of working to plan GENOCIDE, you can tell what their desires are.

The next question I had was who was this David Jones guy that started all this.  He wrote more that tells us everything we need to know about him.

@Susan

The depopulation agenda is about reducing the human population of the world. The elite are convinced that a smaller population can be more easily controlled so they have set out to reduce the population to a number smaller than it is now. That number has been guessed to be 500 million (because of the Georgia Guidestones) or 1.2 billion or something else but the exact number isn’t relevant. What is relevant is that population reduction is happening right now.

Lots of people think the elite are going to use death camps or a plague for depopulation. That may be but with patience they can use another way by making it so we have less children and making our food supply unhealthy. Hawaiian Libertarian has done a lot of research on this and he said, “DOT – Depopulation: Corrupt the food and water supplies and propagate myths, misinformation and lies about proper human nutrition to promote degenerative diseases, early death and the creation of industries dedicated solely to profiting off of the death and misery. Promote birth control, abortion, and changing the social paradigm of marriage and family formation in young adulthood into an extended adolescence of partying, avoiding responsibility and engaging in promiscuity; all things that are now the primary features of young adulthood and the “college experience.”

DOT – Destroy the Foundation of Society: Attack the institution of the traditional nuclear family, based on the construct of Patriarchy. Use the vehicle of “social justice” to promote Feminism to kick the Father out of the home and create single mother households dependent on the nanny-welfare state, easily manipulated and controlled. Promote social chaos by throwing an entire generation into social upheaval. Subvert the family through the creation of an unconstitutional Family Court system built with the sole purpose of offering incentives and subsidies for mothers and wives to become active participants in destroying their own families, enslaving men through peonage, psychologically scarring their own children and providing an endless grist of lucrative profits for the mill of the State and all of the various components of the Divorce Industry.”

Feminism comes into play for destroying families and making sure children that would have been born aren’t. Feminism didn’t just happen. It was directed by the elite. Gloria Steinem worked for the CIA and one of the Rockefellers admitted to Aaron Russo that they started Feminism because they couldn’t tax women and get children in school earlier so that those kids could be indoctrinated.” This is why so much media tells women to be sluts. If women are slutting it up and are indocrinated to hate men because of the elite’s manufactured gender war, then they aren’t having good relationships and forming families. Then they have fewer or no children reducing the population.

The so called “mens rights” movement come into this because it’s the “mirror image of feminism” for men. It’s the male side of the elite’s manufactured gender war. If there’s one thing the “mens rights” males agree on its not getting married. That means less children. Within “mens rights” the MGTOW movement is even more extreme. They promote ghosting for men which involves avoiding women entirely. The more MGTOWs, the less children.

As Gloria Steinem and others worked for the elite in feminism, there are agents of the elite in the “mens rights” movement. Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech is deeply embedded in the military-industrial-security state complex. He has admitted this on his blog. That sounds like how Gloria Steinem worked for the CIA. He is acting under orders from his elite masters to grow the “mens rights” movement and promote gender war.

If you want to promote gender war from the male side, who would be the best group to recruit? Angry male virgins who can’t get together with women. Those males are already predisposed to work for the elite’s manufactured gender war. This is where overgrown boys like White & Nerdy come in. (Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech may have also been recruited this way. Being in the military-industrial-security state complex he probably knows more of the elite’s plans.) I know of other examples of this. A friend of mine has a brother similar to White & Nerdy. A year ago my friend’s brother started acting and talking like a “mens rights” hard liner that would be at home at the spearhead. My friend’s brother also suddenly got a lot more money at around the same time, and my friend can’t explain how that happened.

The elite are also very interested in transhumanism so that’s how I know The Fifth Horseman is involved. He might not be difficult here but each of the agents has a different job so his doesn’t involve being as hard line as White & Nerdy and Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech.

The reason why White & Nerdy and Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech have been so hard line is because a blog like yours, Susan, that promotes good relationships between men and women is a threat to the elite’s plans. The “mens rights” movement is still small so your blog can have a real effect, Susan.

Notice I did not talk about lizard people, Illuminati, Freemasons, Bohemian Grove, the occult despite the jokes of a few people here. Such things are distractions to what is really going on. Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech makes jokes like that all the time to distract from what he is really doing. Such fantasy is not a part of anything that I said.

This guy is one of Hawaiian Fat Blob’s crew.  That’s no surprise.  Reading this sounds like a member of the Paleo-Game Cult.  The crap about virgins being recruited by the super rich to help them with “depopulation” fits in with Bardamu’s crap about how you can’t trust guys who don’t get laid.  It’s just another case of how all members of the Paleo-Game Cult think the same.

I have to wonder what Susan Walsh’s malfunction is.  There are a lot of feminists who are now all of a sudden pro-game.  Yet, none of these feminists want anything to do with Roissyite gamers or the Paleo-Game Cult.  You don’t need the Roissyites to have pro-female PUA so why is Susan Walsh involved with the Roissyites?  Consider how PMAFT has been at war with Susan Walsh for a long time.  He’s a gamer, but not a Roissyite gamer.  He’s rejected everything about the Paleo-Game Cult from the paleo diet to conspiracy theory.  In addition, he also has rejected the racism and anti-Semitism of the Roissyites.  That makes him effectively the most sane gamer in this part of the internet yet Susan Walsh hates him.  Beyond that, Susan Walsh has purged the more sane Roissyites like Dalrock from her blogroll leaving some of the worst Roissyites when it comes to racism, anti-Semitism, and conspiracy theory (such as Hawaiian Fat Blob who is all about conspiracy theory and veiled anti-Semitism).  This is a distinct pattern that consitutes an endorsement of racism, anti-Semitism, and conspiracy theory by Susan Walsh.  Is this because Susan Walsh is a racist and hates Jews or because misandry and racism is strongly linked and she has chosen the most misandrist to ally herself with?  I suspect the latter but either answer is equally disturbing.

If you don’t conclude that there is something wrong with Susan Walsh from all of this, then there is something wrong with you.

My Poop Is Better Than Your Poop. Nyah! Nyah!

The Paleo-Game Cult really shocks me sometimes.  Even putting aside the pussy begging, conspiracy theory, compulsive doomsaying, etc., sometimes a member of the cult says something so outlandish (independent of any of those things) you have to wonder if the Paleo-Game Cult isn’t some sort of long-term trolling enterprise.  Today such a thing happened.  I read Ferdinand Bardamu’s blog, In Mala Fide, and he had a post about how the paleo diet makes his poop superior to everyone else’s poop.  When I was reading this, I almost wondered if someone hacked into the In Mala Fide server, and posted a fake article.  After reading the article, it’s clear that the paleo dieters have descended to the low of, “My poop is better than your poop.”

Here is an excerpt.

Hardcore Paleo nuts refer to the typical diet people in the West eat with the insufferably smug acronym “SAD,” for Standard American Diet. Our carb-loaded, sugar-bombed diet gives us irritable bowels and painful anal explosions, to the point where diarrhea is a cultural trope we all laugh at. No one recognizes that if you’re constantly shitting out more water than actual shit, it means something’s wrong with either your organs or what you’re eating.

One downside of having harder stools is that you have to work harder to pass them. It doesn’t hurt, but it requires physical exertion. When your poop is softer and more liquid, it forces itself out by sheer physics, requiring less conscious effort on your part. Even if something gets in the way, the brown flood will always win. If the Standard American Diet makes peoples’ shit softer and increases the occurrence of diarrhea, their sphincter muscles won’t develop properly, won’t be as strong as they need to be when they DO have to pass something that’s harder than a cup of coffee.

I predict that in the years to come, not only will hemorrhoids become WAY more common in America, I also predict that the mean age for first hemorrhoids will drop. Americans, too lazy to eat properly and shit the right way, will pay the price in blood leaking out of their buttcracks.

I have noticed that paleo dieters always seem to have a multitude of health problems they claim the paleo diet “solved”.  I don’t follow the paleo diet, but I haven’t had the problems with digestion or allergies or diarrhea that the paleo dieters say they had.  From the way it sounds Bardamu was dealing with diarrhea on a weekly basis, if not daily.  It’s been years since I have had diarrhea , and in the rare cases I had diarrhea there was an explanation that had nothing to do with diet.  I don’t think my experiences are that unusual.

My diarrhea history (or lack of it) is really beside the point.  Look at the last the quote above.  It’s one huge scream of, “I’m a failure at everything, but wait until all of you have HEMORRHOIDS because you didn’t listen to me!  Then I will show you!”  Look at how absurd this is.  In comparison, their conspiracy theories and compulsive doomsaying are respectable.  Just as Roissyite gamers are the fringe of the fringe of the fringe in game, the Paleo-Game cult is the fringe of the fringe of the fringe when it comes to the paleo diet.  BS like the above quote (no pun intended) will do nothing to change that fact.

If I had the time I might try trolling the Paleo-Game cult by writing a paleo diet book about how the government/food industry/mafia/aliens from Planet X are trying to secretly hide carbs in paleo food.  The book would include instructions on how to be carefully examine your poop in case you’re a victim of this.  The poop examination process would take several hours.  I guarantee that this book would be a best seller among the Paleo-Game cult although I doubt the wider paleo diet community would buy it.  It would be so funny to have post after post from members of the Paleo-Game cult about how they’re spending hours each day examining their poop.

Racism And Misandry Are Strongly Linked

One of the aspects of the Paleo-Game Cult (and the superset of Rossyite gamers) is a lot of outright racism.  A lot of times accusations of racism are nothing more than political correctness run amok.  This is not so in this case.  How can we know that?  Because throughout misandry there are equivalents to racism.  With the Roissyite gamers, this is in addition to the outright racism.  However, only Roissyite gamers are racist.  The average gamer is just a guy who wants to get laid or improve his social skills and has no interest in racism.

I started becoming conscious how equivalents to racism exist in misandry when reading how Alek Novy compared the “creep” label used by feminists to racism.

I think it is better comparable to racism. The “rationale” they gave at geek-feminism to justify the “creep” label was to say that a woman’s safety is more important than his feeling rejected.

ONE PROBLEM – the label creep is used for someone who hasn’t DONE anything to endanger anyone’s safety. Its based merely on a woman feeling OFF about a guy. Its merely based on a HUNCH about someone being POTENTIALLY bad to safety.

here’s my analogue

If a white person was rude to black people, and called them “thuggish” based on a “hunch” and a feeling, we call that racism, no? Assuming someone is a criminal just because they’re black and kind of off in their body-language is in fact racist. I don’t care if someone says “oh but my feelings of safety are more important than the black person’s feelings of rejection”

But if a guy is a little off with his body-language, apparently treating him like a potential rapist is A-OK because she FELT it…

The “creep” label is nothing more than an anti-male caricature.  The “nice guy” concept works in the same way, especially since the “nice guy” concept doesn’t describe any real world phenomena.  (I will be writing more about how the “nice guy” is a feminist myth in the near future.)  Both the “creep” and the “nice guy” are mythical and misandrist caricatures of men.  They’re similar to the caricatures of blacks and Jews seen in racist literature that don’t exist in the real world.  What we have here is feminists acting in the same manner as racists except that feminists have replaced skin color with masculinity.

We see something similar to feminist “creeps” and “nice guys” among the Roissyite gamers with their blather about “betas”.  Roissyite gamers all believe they’re “alphas” which are superior to those lower lifeforms they call “betas”.  The Roissyite “beta” like the feminist “creep” and “nice guy” is another cariacture that doesn’t exist in the real world.  The Roissyite “beta” serves a similar purpose to feminist caricatures and is similar to the caricatures in racist literature.

Both the feminists and the Roissyite gamers have equivalents to racism.  This is because such equivalents to racism exist in any form of misandry.  However, it doesn’t stop there.  Both the feminists and Roissyite gamers engage in actual racism as well.  The Roissyite gamers use the same non-scientific socio-biological theories to justify both their “beta” myth and their actual racism.  The feminists use the same ideology against men as seen with their cariactures against whites (really its only white men).  Some of this is just expediency on the part of feminists so they can use minority men to advance their cause.  (This is the cry of “women and minorities” we are all familiar with.)  The fact is both the Roissyite gamers and the feminists engage in actual racism.  It’s just against different groups.

Some of you might be thinking that while there is plenty of racism among Roissyite gamers, not all Roissyite gamers are racists.  If you look at a Roissyite gamer, you will find plenty of racism.  (The only exceptions might be someone like PMAFT, but he is really a typical gamer who just wants to get laid and not a true Roissyite gamer.  He also has shown us that he is strenuously against several aspects of the Paleo-Game Cult which would confirm this.)  Let’s use an example of a Roissyite gamer who isn’t even white to show you that Roissyite gamers are full of racism, Hawaiian Fat Blob.  He’s not white, but he’s Hawaiian.  This hasn’t stopped him from assimilating white nationalism into himself and declaring their enemies such as the Jews as his enemies.  Here are some examples of what I’m talking about.  They’re originally from the traditional catholicism blog (run by Alte) which I got screenshots of before she made the blog inaccessible.  (If these images aren’t full size, click on them to look at them full size.)

There’s a lot of incorrect information about banking, the nature of the Federal Reserve System and a lie that the IRS is a private corporation, but that’s beside the point of this post which is about racism.  He starts out with an incorrect analysis of the history of the Jews in Europe, blames the Jews for their persecution (notice the similarity between that and feminists blaming “the patriarchy” for anything bad happening to men when a woman causes it), and says The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is true.  Because Hawaiian Fat Blob, as he says, has been careful to not speak his real views on the Jews that much so this is the first time many of you are aware of this.  It’s an example of how you are guaranteed to find racism and anti-semitism in a Roissyite gamer.  You just need to look, and you will find them blaming the Jews or blacks for all the problems in the world.

I’m beginning to think that it’s not a coincidence the racism in both an equivalent form (the rubbish about “creeps”, “nice guys”, “betas”, etc.) and in its actual form in both feminism (anti-white racism) and the Roissyite game (traditional racism).  Racism and misandry are strongly linked, and that’s true with any form of misandry out there.

I’m No Longer The Roissysphere Gamer’s Devil

Roissysphere game like every degenerate religion/cult needs a devil to hate.  That devil used to be me, but now it’s Alek Novy.  If you look at the comments at a recent post a PMAFT’s blog, this will become clear.  Read what the gamers were saying about him.

Before you defend AlekNovy as an MRA, you should know that he has repeatedly attempted to join forces with Denise Romano and Lady Raine in order to get Roissy and KrauserPUA shut down.

That is something no one else would do. Not Trollsidian, not Susan Walsh, not TokyoJesusFist.

Aligning with Denise Romano to harm Roissy in real life is a capital crime against Men’s Rights, whether you agree with Roissy or not.

Lady Raine was some woman that Roissy tangled with a while back.  She ended up outing Roissy’s real identity among other things.  Thus to Roissysphere gamers, anyone who is against game must be working with her.  That’s how close to paranoid schizofrenia Roissysphere gamers and its Paleo-Game cult subset can get.  If you thought that was bad, it gets worse.

I read your original post earlier, & I agree he does look as if he tried to join forces with LR, but that’s his MO, try & join with the most discredited rejects he can find, for example his most recent attempts at joining retards like Omegavirginrevolt & onestdv

PMAFT if you want proof AlekNovy is no MRA, read his comments PUA4LIFE provides on Lady Raines site, there’s no way a MRA would agree with a hardcore feminist like Raine, not to mention the dialogue he tries to create with her

I’ve bumped into AlekNovy for about 3 years now, for some reason he’s been deliberately trying to build up some sort of network against the game & pua industry

If you’re a real MRA, you dont try & tear down something built clearly by men

Even Paul Elam grudgingly accepts the need for game

If you look clearly at AlekNovy, he’s basically trying to tear down one of the largest communities created by men for men, the PUA & game community

What self respecting MRA would ever do that?

Not only that, but he’s spent over 3 or 4 years attacking a large community run by men, again what self respecting MRA would ever spend so many years attacking a community of men?

Aleknovy is anything but an MRA

Also if you look at his earlier post here, he admits he runs multiple sites to make it look like some sort of movement against game, when it is in fact just him & about 3 or 4 people

As I mentioned earlier

If you look at deansdales blog, you can see harry & aleknovy spamming the crap out of his blog, with their inane anti-game rants

I’ve seen the exact same arguements & rants copy & pasted on dalrocks blog & in the paul elam debate

Under the pseudonyms of George & Paragon on Dalrocks blog

& Harry & Alek Novy in the paul elam debate, & Harry & Alek Novy at deansdales

So yea, PMAFT if you wanted evidence of Aleknov’s sockpuppetting there it is …

AlekNovy is essentially a well known troll in the PUA & gaming community

The only reason he gets a pass in the manosphere, is basically no one knows how he operates & his MO

Essentially if you have a decent knowledge of game, none of his arguements have any merit

Combine that with his clear agreement with people like Lady Raine, & Omegavirgin Revolt, & OneSTDV, he is no MRA

This is all a longwinded way of saying that that everyone who disagrees with game is an Alek Novy sock puppet.  This is something I have talked about before.  Even The Fifth Horseman, a man who is sensible most of the time goes rabid when it comes to game.

i) He definitely is appealing to LR for an alliance ‘against Game’, and is having a dialog with her. He is not in league with her only because she was no longer attacking Roissy at the time he proposed an alliance.

ii) Thus, I can conclude that the alliance did not happen due to an 18-month timing mismatch, not due to lack of intent on AlekNovy’s part. I mean, why would he go to HER at all?

But AlekNovy is NOT one the these rational critics, and posts so much that it puts the rest of them in disrepute.

I agree with everything that Ferdinand has written, and will raise him one : Too much of what AlekNovy writes betrays a lack of knowledge of what Game is, and that it is a tool. The fact that he never, ever can admit that Game is useful in LTRs (he cannot even admit that Hawaii Lib exists) also makes his other claims virtually impossible to believe.

His reasons for hating Game are probably far more mundane than he says. My bet is that he spent time and money on seminars, but didn’t get results, so feels swindled.

And when Ferdinand, Chuck, and myself have apparently given him a thumbs down (as more will once they see that he was at least cozy with LR *on the subject of destroying Game*, his rep isn’t in very good shape.

If you read all of the comments on that post that are about Alek Novy, the only two people who don’t sound like they’re suffering from paranoid schizofrenia and PMAFT and Ray Manta.  They’re the only two not accusing Alek of having a billion sock puppets and conspiring with women who disappeared from this part of the internet several months ago.  Both of them actually ask for things like evidence rather than join a lynch mob.

It’s important to document these things because Roissysphere gamers aren’t simply guys with an alternate point of view.  They (with some exceptions like PMAFT ) are insane and are willing entertain any paranoid delusion about anyone they percieve to be their enemies.  This is the insanity, we’re fighting.

What I found funny about this was how I’m not longer the Roissysphere devil.  Instead of Alek it used to be me in their paranoid rantings.  Still, I haven’t lost my mojo.  I’m still included in their paranoid delusions as you can see above, and I still get called things like “Revolting Omega Virgin” so I’m stil doing the right thing.

A Call To Arms To Destroy The Misandrist Dating Advice Distraction

This post is an exact copy of this page.  I have disabled comments here so that all comments will end up on the page and not on this post.  If you want to comment, leave your comments here.  If you want to link to this be sure to link to the page and not this post.

Let me ask you a question.  Why is dating advice and other aspects of dating the subject of so much discussion in feminism?  Remember that when anyone talks about game, PUA, seduction, the “venusian arts”, etc., that is all under the category of dating advice.  Think of all of the issues feminists are interested in and think about how a feminist would rank them in importance.  You probably put dating advice and most things related to dating at the bottom of the list in terms of importance.  Yet, feminists consider dating advice and some of its related issues to be incredibly important.  Amanda Marcotte has written posts about the need for “non-sexist dating advice”.  Any feminist blog from Jezebel to No Seriously What About The Menz? has written a multitude of posts about “Nice Guys”.

We know some of the reasons the Paleo-Game Cult and other so called “anti-feminists” are into the dating advice morass.  They’re trying to make a buck using the game scam, or it’s simple chest beating to hide their insecurities, or any number of other reasons we have analyized.  These reasons don’t apply to feminists, so what is going on with feminists and dating advice?

I started thinking about these questions when I wrote my page on the Paleo-Game Cult.  I started noticing similarities between how the Paleo-Game Cult talked about game and how feminists talked about dating advice subjects.  Both sides had a core of female pedestalizing when it came to their respective forms of dating advice.  These were two forms of the same thing.

I considered what was the effect of all of this dating advice discussion on both the feminist and so called non-feminist sides.  The effect was that it served to distract men from what was feminism was doing.  Implicit in all of this dating advice dicussion was that any problems you have because of feminism can be solved with dating advice.  Feminism causes systemic problems, but all the dating advice dicussion puts men in a mind frame that they are dealing with personal problems.  Since there are no personal solutions to systemic problems, what all this dating adivce discussion has done is redirect the focus of many men from dealing with the real and systemic problem of feminism to non-existent personal problems.

I’m calling this the Misandrist Dating Advice Distraction (MDAD).  The MDAD includes the subjects of game, PUA, “nice guys”, and other subject that can be considered “dating adivce” or related to it whenever they’re positively invoked in a feminist or anti-feminist context.  A good example of the MDAD is action was the Elam-Frost debate on A Voice For Men.  The fact that such a debate happened in the way that it did was the MDAD in action.  Paul Elam was distracted from his work fighting feminism to debate a snot nosed twit about game.  How the debate was conducted gave legitimacy to the idea that dating advice (a superset of game) has a place in fighting feminism and mens rights.  There were also gamers saying that game (i.e. dating advice) could protect a man from false rape accusations.  That is an excellent example of the MDAD in action because we have people saying that game/dating advice, a personal solution, can protect you against the systemic problem of false rape accusations.  If a man believes what the gamers said about FRA, then he will be distracted from fighting the systemic problem of FRAs to attempting a personal solution with dating advice (which can never work).  The distraction only serves to make the opposition to FRA weaker.

The MDAD is especially insidious because it turns self described anti-feminists into feminists without those anti-feminists being concious of the process.  The gamers who said that game could protect against FRAs in the Elam-Frost debate were acting as de facto feminists.  What they did only served to strengthen feminism.  It’s also pulls in these de facto feminists into debates of dating advice issues with declared feminists.  As both sides are effectively feminist, there is no real debate going on and no real opposition to feminism happening even though some of the participants in the debate believe differently.

I am not writing this page, just to have another page on my blog.  I am declaring complete and total war against the MDAD.  My goal is nothing less than COMPLETE DESTRUCTION of the MDAD so that whenever feminism is being fought in the future any discussion of dating advice is regarded as useless or a feminist trick and ignored.  The MDAD is what is blocking the progress of mens rights more than anything else right now.  To fight the MDAD we must continue to point out how game doesn’t exist and how the “nice guy” idea is a myth and a strawman.  Beyond that, we need to learn more about the MDAD and analyze it from every possible angle.  To that end, I need the help of everyone reading this.  I can’t do this all on my own.  I need everyone to go out learn about the MDAD (whether it has to do with game, “nice guys”, dating advice in general, or anything else) and bring back their observations and other conclusions you can draw.  Use your brains to their maximum potentinal for this purpose.  Be sure to promote this call to arms against the MDAD wherever you can.  If you have a blog, at a minimum, promote this call to arms there.

Defeating the MDAD will destroy one of the most powerful weapons in the feminist arsenal.  With the MDAD gone, mens rights will be able to progress faster than it ever has before.  I believe that we can and will destroy the MDAD.

Updates

I have several things I want to update everyone on.  I have written two new pages.  The first, Why the black pill?, is the new about page.  The second page, The Paleo-Game Cult, is a work in progress and rough draft about the nature of the Roissysphere gamers and the obsessions with the paleo diet, conspiracy theory, etc. in addition to game.  It’s the beginning of what will likely be a few pages about the ideologies that game gets incorporated to.  At some point I will write a page on feminist interest in game and another page on how that’s similar to the Paleo-Game Cult’s use of game.  Comments are open on those two pages so I would like all comments related to that under those pages and not here.

Conspiracy theorists still can’t provide evidence of their conspiracies so the say stupid things like, “Rich people have free time so they must be conspiring.”

The Susan Walsh debacle that got started when she said that “frivolous divorce was overstated by MRAs” continues.  In following this debacle, several people have pointed out something interesting about Susan Walsh, that the men in her family are non-entities to her.  Susan Walsh two brothers that both were abused by the divorce system.  The state of her husband and son don’t concern her.  She sides with women over men in her own family.  (I have seen examples over and over again of women being misandrist even when their misandry directly hurts the men they claim to love so Susan Walsh is a typical woman.)  Here are some comments from various people on this subject.

Its been pointed out numerous times but never stops being horrible: the complete nullification of her son from any thought at all. This is a woman who waxes poetic on the internet about alphas, how to get them, how to move on to the next one. Endless advice for girls, while her loser son likely sits as an incel and will for the remainder of his life (not even his own mother wants him. I’m sure it was a flip of a coin whether she kept her beta-husbands son to begin with, since women RARELY keep the sons of betas to term.)

Woe to that poor boy. Especially considering the radfems Walsh has been inviting would rather give him a double-tap to the back of the head than give him any advice. Maybe his mother feels the same way, on account of his broken, undesireable, inadequate genetic material.

If Susan Walsh is aware of her son’s state at all, she probably game him some game literature.  This is a guarantee that Susan Walsh’s son is now getting laid as much as I am.  He may have been getting laid as much as I do before she found game.

The only thing I have heard SW say about her husband besides that he exists is how big of a beta he is. IOW SW is trashing her husband as a big chump.

It’s the same with SW’s son. We never hear anything about him except how he is a big beta too. SW is trashing her son as a future chump.

Since SW treats her son & husband with such contempt, then she clearly is as bad as the feminists.

In game circles, “beta” is considered effectively equivalent to “lower lifeform”.  Since Susan Walsh is immersed in game, calling her husband and her son “betas” means she has nothing but contempt for them.

Anyone who is defending Susan Walsh by this point is either insane or a white knight mangina.  One thing I glad to see is more men speaking up about Susan Walsh who didn’t in the past for whatever reason.

I’ve never understood why so many in the manosphere (even some otherwise highly bright individuals I think highly of) think so well of SW, when she clearly is an inconsistent, at best, supporter of men in general – her blog, which is aimed at women, with its title ‘Hooking Up Smart’, shows one all one needs to know about her and where her sympathies lie. Not with the menfolk…

For a long time myself, PMAFT, and a couple others were lone voices in the wilderness on Susan Walsh.  Now, more people understand the truth about her that we have known for a long time.

Conspiracy Theorists Will Turn On The MRM

Alek Novy and I have written some comments about how conspiracy theorists will turn on the MRM once the MRM gets mainstream enough.  I thought these comments deserved to be featured in a post.  The first one is from Alek Novy.

These days, anyone whoever mentions feminism in a negative context is automatically branded “one of our own”, which is just silly.

The only reason conspiracy theorists like Hawaiian blob are mentioning feminism negatively is because they make conspiracy theories about everything. They just throw everything and everything into that grinder.

This morning for example… I saw a guy walking around the street YELLING… like running toward the janitors and yelling something about the end of the world, and how the janitors are in on it (because they work for the city council)…

Then he ran and yelled something about aliens, and then he started running into traffic, yelling at the cars (talking to the headlights I think)… This went on for like 40 minutes (while he was in my sight I mean).

By Marky’s logic, if this nutcase had also yelled “And those goddamned feminists, they’re in on it too, they’re part of the alien plan too” —> I should have befriended the nutcase?

Come on, get real. Not everybody that mentions feminism in a negative light is an ally. We’re not that desperate.

I wrote in response.

And when conspiracy theorists do that anti-feminism becomes meaningless. Guys like Hawaiian Fat Blob say they’re against feminism, but in what meaningful way are they against feminism? Saying feminism is bad because it’s something the Jews/Rockefellers/Illuminati did doesn’t tell me why feminism is bad. If conspiracy theorists didn’t think that the Jews/Rockefellers/Illuminati were involved with feminism, then they would have no problem with it. To me that makes them de facto feminists, since they would be willing to support feminism in a different context.

PMAFT has talked about how the MRM will eventually become part of all these conspiracies which makes sense since like you said, everything gets thrown into the conspiracy theory grinder. Since the conspiracy theorists will turn on us when the MRM becomes large enough/influential enough, then why should be include them now?

Alek Novy wrote on his blog.

The last part is the most important one. Note that these guys are just contrarians. They are anti-whatever-the-mainstream-is. Whatever the current mainstream or leading diet proposal, these guys latch onto a conspiracy theory diet fad that is opposite of it. Whatever the leading advice on making money, they find a conspiracy theory that says that’s a conspiracy to keep you poor etc… etc… If MRA ever gets mainstream, they’ll turn against the MRA and claim the MRA was Rockefeller funded.

Why should we take conspiracy theorists seriously?  Besides the lack of evidence and how insane conspiracy theorists obviously are, as soon as the MRM is successful enough, the conspiracy theorists will turn on us because that will be a “contrarian” position from their perspective.  Conspiracy theorists aren’t going to help us with anti-feminism, so why bother with them?

Susan Walsh

Several questions have been asked about Susan Walsh.  I don’t have the time right now to run through all of the problems with her because such a thing would approach being a doctoral dissertation.  Instead I will do my best to provide a brief summary with some examples.  None of the examples I list are freak occurrences.  They are part of a pattern on Susan Walsh’s part going back at least two years of lies, deceit, and woman firstism.  She claims not to be a feminist, but only because she has tried to redefine feminist purely in terms of being a slut.  This definition fails to capture what feminism is really about, female supremacism, and Susan Walsh is a female supremacist.

One question that was asked was whether Susan Walsh is pro-game or not.  This should answer that.

This is the reason I am vociferously pro-Game and anti-feminism.

The anti-feminist part is effectively a lie as I said, but there is no doubt now about her stance on game.

Susan Walsh appeared in the manosphere around two years ago give or take.  Some the gamers tried to convince her of game.  There were quite a few fights between the gamers and her because at first she didn’t buy into game.  Eventually, she did, likely because she realized that the cult of Roissysphere game can be used to control men for the benefit of women.  Once this happened all of the gamers that were fighting her stopped that and starting kissing her ass except one, Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech, one of the few (possibly the only) sane gamers out there.  PMAFT’s perspective is not about game as much as it is about mens rights and respect for men, so he wasn’t taken in by her sudden conversion to being pro-game.  PMAFT kept on disagreeing with her so she eventually banned him from hooking up morons.  She tried to claim that PMAFT couldn’t hold a “civil conversation”, but those of us who know PMAFT know that is bullshit.  You can read more about this on PMAFT’s blog at this link.

It was sometime after this that I came along to the manosphere.  For a while I got on fine with Susan Walsh.  Then one day all of a sudden, she went nuts about me.  She started calling me “creepy”, not to me since she doesn’t talk to me anymore, but to other people.  Calling a virgin man like myself, “creepy”, is no different than calling a black person a nigger, or using any sort of racist or anti-semitic slur.  I can’t give you links exactly what happened with Susan Walsh because it’s all in her head.  Here is an example of her calling me creepy.

Keoni, I’ve wrestled with this guy before. He’s impossible to reason with, he just lashes out irrationally. He was a fixture on HUS even before he started blogging and finally left in a huff claiming I’d banned him. I hadn’t but I would have been justified in doing so – he hijacked a bunch of threads complaining about everyone without taking any responsibility whatsoever for his own circumstances.

This is what women mean when they use the word creepy.

Not only did Susan Walsh call me creepy but she lied (like she does over and over again).  I never said that she banned me from hooking up stupid.  I left because commenting there was a waste of time, not “in a huff”.  What she calls my “not taking responsibility” is my refusal to believe in game.  Since game doesn’t exist, women aren’t just automatons responding to men.  They are responsible for what they do, and I was holding women responsible.  She also has the nerve to call me irrational when Hawaiian Fat Blob was writing a conspiracy theory about how I was down voting his comments on The Spearhead, and when I had to delete various comments from gamers because they were coming here to drive traffic to their blogs.  One of HFB’s sycophants, Workshy Joe, another gamer who has employment problems, admitted to this.

For the sake of brevity, I going to skip a lot here.  There’s a lot of talk about the 80/20 rule, where 20% of men are having sex with 80% of the women.  Gamers think this is true, and more or less so do I.  Susan Walsh has talked about the 80/20 rule as well, which the gamers took to mean that she agreed with them.  She let them think this.  What Susan Walsh meant by the 80/20 rule was that 80% of sex is happening between 20% of the men and 20% of the women.  Not that long ago, Susan Walsh’s duplicity in this area was uncovered.  Later in the comments, she tries to pull some BS by claiming various surveys about a person’s number of sex partners are anonymous which by definition can’t be.  (The survey thing is better explained here and here.)  What Susan Walsh is trying to do here is invoke the myth of equal suffering as described on The Spearhead, in order for women to not be held accountable for their actions.  She tried the same thing when she was still talking to me.  She said that there women “in the same situation as me”.  I challenged her to produce a 33 year old involuntary virgin woman.  Susan Walsh did not do this and let this insult to my intelligence stand.

As a result of all this one of her sycophants made up a conspiracy theory that I had “invaded” Dalrock’s blog, and all the anti-Susan Walsh comments were really sock puppets of me.  I didn’t even know that there were people rightfully criticizing Susan Walsh until after that conspiracy theory accusation was made against me.  Despite that, even many of the gamers were starting to catch on to Susan Walsh’s lies, passive aggressive behavior, and general modus operandi as explained in the following by Anonymous Reader.

Unfortunately a key part of her “hanging in there” consisted of simply ignoring facts that did not agree with her pre-determined conclusion. This is part of a pattern with Walsh; she makes some sweeping generalization, men provide examples that disprove it, she ignores them or even belittles them with some feeble snark, then she goes on to repeat the same false claim again in some other venue. In the case of surveys, there are some major issues with truthfulness of women that Walsh refuses to discuss. Basil posted a small study that clearly demonstrated that women will lie about number of sexual partners except when they believe that they are certain to be caught. This doesn’t surprise me as a man, but apparently it doesn’t fit in well with Walsh’s view of women – so she ignores it. I’m not impressed when someone claims to be ‘open minded’ one minute and then demonstrates obvious close-mindedness the next. Actions speaking louder than words, once again. I bet that even if someone went to Walsh’s own blog and posted links to the study, or even the study itself, she’d continue to ignore it.

And yes, I’m going to bring up her claim that she can spot entitled women just by looking at them from time to time. Because it is a claim that is testable, but she refuses to test it. It is a claim that flies right in the face of some men I know, and she refuses to acknowledge that. Her arrogant ignorance in this matter doesn’t give me any confidence at all in anything else Walsh has to say, frankly.

This matters because Walsh on the one hand is presenting herself as an honest debater, and an honest researcher. But honest debate means putting claims to the test, testing hypotheses and admitting if they cannot pass muster. Honest research means following evidence wherever it leads, not starting with a preconceived idea and only accepting data that supports it.

Based on what I’ve here and elsewhere:

Susan Walsh says she looks at all the data, but her actions are those of someone who is cherry picking surveys to support a predetermined conclusion.

Susan Walsh says she’s willing to learn from men and admit when she’s wrong, but her actions to me are those of someone who has zero interest in men’s real experience and an arrogant refusal to admit any error.

So as far as I’m concerned, she appears to be just another “Team Women!” player, and nothing more.

PMAFT, another gamer, said something similar.

You have realized the same thing I have discovered a long time ago. The only difference between her and Amanda Marcotte is that Susan Walsh is running a better con. It’s telling that Susan Walsh’s only opposition to feminism is the part of feminism she perceives as harming women. She agrees with every other part of feminism. For example, she is against men going expat to find wives/form families (not to mention men going ghost). This shows that Susan Walsh wants to keep men in the marriage 2.0 system. This is one of a thousand examples.

Her attempt to redefine the 80/20 rule is another example of how Susan Walsh is playing for Team Woman and nothing more. She is trying to claim that women are suffering the same lack of sex men are. We know this is not true. Walsh’s subtle redefinition of the 80/20 rule is similar to duplicitous Middle Eastern leaders who say one thing in English for American/Western consumption and another thing in Arabic for local consumption.

Put all of this together, and it becomes clear that Susan Walsh is all about trying to keep men locked in to the feminist system here in the West. Just because she disagrees with (or is willing to sacrifice) some transgender sex-positive lesbians does not mean that Susan Walsh isn’t playing for Team Woman.

Over the last week, Susan Walsh’s true nature was exposed again at Dalrock’s blog when she revealed what she thinks causes divorce.  A man commenting at her blog said the following.

Men are shattered and blind sided by divorce far more than women are. Usually the woman you files for divorce has slowly been making up her mind to do it for some time with much consultation with her girl friends. Maybe because she cheated and thus dissolved her feels of bondedness when married women have good emotional sex with another man, but not when men do.

This was Susan Walsh’s angry response.

Provide stats for this or shut up. Men cheat more than women do. How do you account for that in divorces initiated by women? He breaks the contract, she files. Sounds fair to me. Yes, there are frivolous divorces, but I’d like to know what percentage of female-initiated divorces they are. I think this theme is exaggerated and overblown in the manosphere echo chamber.

Everyone in the manosphere knows the truth about divorce.  We all know how it is female initiated for the flimsiest of reasons, yet Susan Walsh both insults our intelligence and proves she is no anti-feminist with this comment.  She said that divorce only happens because men cheat which we know is bullshit.  You have to read all of the comments to that link above.  (Don’t complain that it’s too long.  It’s all relevant.)  Eventually you will find out how Susan Walsh digs a deeper hole for herself on this issue, lies about what this gamer said, accuses Dalrock of taking what she said out of context when he didn’t, etc.  Eventually, even Dalrock gets tired of Susan Walsh’s bullshit.

Even if she ultimately acknowledges the reality of frivolous divorce, there still is her bizarre denial that she ever wrote what she did, not to mention her characterization of her statement Provide stats for this or shut up. as I expressed a curiosity as to what percentage of female-initiated divorces are frivolous. She also is claiming that she was responding to an entirely different comment from Doug1 than the one she quoted in her response. She doesn’t characterize this as an oversight or error on her part, she simply denies her reply was actually a reply to the comment everyone can see she quoted.

Lastly, I’m not impressed by her stance that she hasn’t had a chance to look into the topic of frivolous divorce. Given her long history blogging with a primary goal of getting women married, at the very least it shows a profound lack of intellectual curiosity. How can this not have ever interested her before? Furthermore, she clearly has seen the issue raised repeatedly on my site and others across the manosphere and instead of considering what she read dismissed it out of hand. Her latest statement (the one the OP is in response to) betrays a deep hostility to men’s complaints about women taking advantage of the system. Taken all together her driving passion seems to be to put as many women as possible in the position of being able to victimize men through the unfair marriage laws and courts.

Read that last sentence several times to make sure it sinks in.  The end result of this is that the gamers are all realizing the truth about Susan Walsh that PMAFT first realized back in early 2010, something he realized even before I did.

Dalrock,

Taken all together her driving passion seems to be to put as many women as possible in the position of being able to victimize men through the unfair marriage laws and courts.

Wow. Pretty harsh. But probably true…

And this is just a couple of days after dragnet and others had explained how she is ‘not that bad’. I agreed with the position at the time, but now I think I will re-assess.

Susan Walsh has both a daughter *and* a son, btw.

You will notice that sentence at the end about how Susan Walsh has both a daughter and a son.  The fact that she has a son rarely comes up whereas the fact that she has a daughter comes up all of the time.  When someone says, “Susan Walsh is just trying to help her daughter,” the question I have to ask is what about her son?  That’s in addition to “helping her daughter” seems to mean “putting as many women as possible in the position of being able to victimize men through the unfair marriage laws and courts” which is by definition at the expense of her son.  This is even more clear when you learn about Susan Walsh’s life story which was being a slut followed by snagging a beta to bail her out.  What she is trying to do is make sure her daughter has that option because men are figuring out what is going on and will not be the beta to bail out an aging slut.

I could write about more examples from the last two years, but Susan Walsh’s pattern of lies, deceit, and woman firstism is clear.  To end this, I am going to add a comment from Roosh’s forum about Susan Walsh.

ehh, I don’t care for her. Her tone of writing is insultingly saccharine, though I suppose that’s inevitable when writing for women. The woman earned an MBA from Wharton, but you’d never guess it from her writing.

She takes what male game/MRA writers say, misunderstands half of it, and then relays it to her female readers. Many of those readers, by the way, seem to be there for her patented 12 Step Slut Rehab Program™.

When I read her site, I feel like I’m reading “How to Manipulate Men for Dummies.” It feels like the goal is not a successful satisfying relationship with a man she loves, but rather how to “get what you want” out of dating, how to have the relationship on “her terms.” The man is merely an accessory, to good feelings and status among her peers. It feels like the impetus for the site is sluts get pumped and dumped, and they want to know how to keep Mr. Alpha around.

Slut Rehab is definitely what hooking up stupid should be called.

Update: Dalrock made the following comment, and I think it should be included.

I’m glad this is clear for you, because I read what she wrote several times and still have no idea where she stands on the topic of the post. It reminds me an awful lot of a speech by a politician. She made a claim, I refuted it. She then proceeded to deny making the claim, question my integrity, accuse me of taking her comment out of context, and obfuscate the issue. I have given her the benefit of the doubt whenever I could, and worked very hard to not make this a personal issue. In return she scolds, accuses, and makes it personal. Now, as someone predicted, she returns as if none of this happened and apologizes for offending anyone who feels strongly about the issue of divorce. I expected much more from Susan.

Even the part which appears to be acknowledging an error is actually restating what she said in the beginning, and reiterating her defense that she was taken out of context:

In truth, it was not my intention to say that women do not file for divorce frivolously. I am well aware that they do. However, my desire to have the exchange put in context is legitimate.

Note that this is not a retraction of the position that I challenged. She didn’t say that women never file for divorce frivolously. She said:

Yes, there are frivolous divorces, but I’d like to know what percentage of female-initiated divorces they are. I think this theme is exaggerated and overblown in the manosphere echo chamber.

As far as I can tell she hasn’t retracted this and is simply continuing to deny and deflect, all the while continuing to accuse me of taking her out of context.