I got asked my opinion about AVFM’s latest attack on MGTOW. Until now, I hadn’t been following it due to a lack of time and an assumption that it was nothing more than the usual tension between MRAs and MGTOW. Obviously, I oppose what AVFM is trying to do. By trying to include married men as MGTOW, AVFM is trying to create a MGTOW- and call that “MGTOW”, so they can actual MGTOW, MGTOW+ to make actual MGTOW look like Atheism+. What AVFM is doing is a very despicable and underhanded thing.
While this is about throwing out actual MGTOW to include tradcons at AVFM, it represents a deeper connection between AVFM and tradcons. AVFM is adopting a tradcon strategy I am now calling, “The Middle Of The Road Alternative Scam”. What tradcons try to do is present themselves as different from both feminists and MRAs/MGTOW. Tradcons will tell you that they are neither pro-male nor pro-female, but pro-“family” or pro-“community”. “Family” and “community” are words that really mean women and/or socialism depending on context, so it’s a way for tradcons try to trick men into supporting women. Plus, it’s also a way for tradcons to present themselves as the group “in the middle” trying to “bring men and women together” and “fight the extremists on both sides” (i.e. the feminists on one side and the MRAs/MGTOW on the other).
AVFM is now using the same scam. Effectively they’re trying to say, “See we have both men and women. We’re trying to bring men and women together. We’re neither those feminist extremists nor those MGTOW extremists.” Since AVFM is supposed to be a MRA organization, they can’t include MRAs as one of the “extremes” they’re supposedly against, so MGTOW exclusively get that “honor”. Thats the only real difference between the tradcon application of “the middle of the road alternative” scam and AVFM’s application of it. Since AVFM’s use of this scam effectively aligns AVFM with tradcon ideology, now tradcons are very much at home at AVFM.
There may be some people reading this who are wondering, “what’s wrong with bringing men and women together?” They think that I’m just an extremist who is trying to promote a war between men and women. The problem with a middle of the road position (in the best case scenario) is that it’s a compromise position. On one side, the position is “men should have no rights”. The other side says, “men should have rights”. The middle of the road position is to take half of men’s rights away. Clearly, that’s unacceptable and absurd. A man’s rights should never be up for compromise or negotiation. It’s like you trying to compromise with someone who wants to poison your food. You don’t want your food to be poisoned, but they do. Are you actually going to meet in the middle and let them use half as much poison? Of course not. Don’t forget this description of the “middle of the road alternative” is assuming the best case scenario. In reality, it’s worse. The “middle of the road alternative” is really used as a scam or a trojan horse to subjugate men.
AVFM and the tradcons aren’t the only to use this scam. The white vagina worshipping nationalists also use this scam, albeit only for white men and white women. Conspiracy theorists also use this scam, but that is part some of larger issues with conspiracy theory that require a separate post. Anytime you see this scam being used, don’t trust whoever is using it. Many groups are using it or will use it in the future so you have to be vigilant for it.