An Example Of Why “You MRAs/MGTOW Hate Women” Is Garbage

We MRAs and MGTOW and anyone else interested in mens rights gets the “You hate women” canard thrown at us a lot.  This is a code red anti-male shaming tactic so that alone should prove its bullshit.  It’s no different than “You have a small penis”.  But like with all anti-male shaming tactics it keeps getting used.

Unless you have been underground the last few weeks you have heard about Wikileaks and Julian Assange.  The Spearhead reported on the crazy rape charges against him.  The woman, Anna Ardin, accusing Julian Assange is a radical feminist bent on a massive campaign of terror and just plain evil against men.  (As an aside this is why we all need to support Julian Assange now regardless of anyone’s opinion of what he has done.)

What does this have to do with code red anti-male shaming tactics?  None of us supposed “woman haters” have done anything like what Ardin has done or what thousands of feminists have done in calling for the genocide of some, most, or all men.  Women and manginas who say “You hate women” never criticize women much less one like Ardin.

Or take this cunt who posted (a quickly downvoted) comment which basically says all men are rapists.  The “You hate women” women and manginas are nowhere to be found to criticize her either.

Anyone who uses the “You hate women” anti-male shaming tactic is nothing but a hypocrite.  Period.

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16 responses to “An Example Of Why “You MRAs/MGTOW Hate Women” Is Garbage

  1. And now men are accused of “raping their girlfriends!”

    http://dzheng.freeshell.org/?e=68

    What is most appalling about this new trend is that beta males are totally oblivious that their white knighting removes much of the incentive (sex) of dealing with women at all. If you are not a white knight, you must hate women, and that is their mantra.

    • Dali wrote:
      What is most appalling about this new trend is that beta males are totally oblivious that their white knighting removes much of the incentive (sex) of dealing with women at all.

      Yet another reason to avoid women as much as possible outside of immediate family. I guess they’ve never heard of the law of unintended consequences.

  2. Has anti-rape propaganda ever been this prominent in the media or is this a recent phenomenon? Has rape ever been acceptable or cheered on before? If you criticize the anti-rape fraud, you are automatically labelled a misogynist woman-hater.

  3. Just popped in to say hi….and wishing you a Merry Christmas.

    I guess you guys don’t much care for the Julian Assange accusers eh? It might make you smile to know that In Mala Fide posted their home addresses- 4 chan was already on that like white on rice.

    Bye!

    • I hope you come back here to comment more often, I really don’t appreciate your long absence. I think your presence adds life to this blog.

    • No I don’t. One of them Anna Ardin reminds me of every women that has accused me of sexual harassment. Maybe this is the reason.

      A Swedish forum reports that she is an expert on sexual harassment and the male “master suppression techniques”. Once, as she was lecturing, a male student in the audience looked at his notes instead of staring at her. Anna Ardin reported him for sexual harassment because he discriminated against her for being a woman and because she claimed he made use of the male “master suppression technique” in trying to make her feel invisible. As soon as the student learned about her complaint, he contacted her to apologize and explain himself. Anna Ardin’s response was to once again report him for sexual harassment, again because he was using the “master suppression technique”, this time to belittle her feelings.

      Made up bullshit…exactly what I got from every woman that accused me of sexual harassment.

      Merry Christmas, DP.

  4. You MRAs have been pretty convincing about your hatred/dislike of women with your misogynistic comments. Here are some examples of why I don’t take MRAs seriously:

    .I have yet to find a single MRA online that doesn’t blame/bash women and/or feminism, even if the issue is irrelevant to either women/feminism.

    .There is an anti-feminist site dedicated to Marc Lepine, the man who killed more than a dozen innocent women for being angry about feminism “taking away men’s jobs.” MRAs flocked to it and defended him as a “folk hero,” saying that sacrificing a handful of women to show them the “evils of feminism” was for their own good.

    .Many MRAs on sites like YouTube make very hateful comments against women and/or feminism, and they often generalize one or both.

    .Misogynistic comments often get upvoted, even if they advocate abuse towards women for doing something to “provoke the man.” If a comment defends women, it’s downvoted.

    .Many deny that women were ever oppressed, claiming that women had it good by getting to stay home and not be represented in politics and science since those are “men’s fields.” (Not that there’s anything wrong with being a housewife, but choices are nice.)

    .They accuse female bloggers/commenters of being “misandric” and bashing males, even though most feminists who write their opinions online constantly show they’re not man-haters.

    Honestly, I have yet to see a single MRA that isn’t hateful towards women, and I read their posts/comments all the time. I have tried to find one that doesn’t bash women, but I have yet to find one (this is not an exaggeration). This turns me away from them and their “movement.” I believe that they bring up valid points about fathers’ rights and whatnot, but the way they’re going about it is sexist and demeaning to women.

    If you don’t want women to think MRAs are misogynists, then stop supporting the hundreds, if not thousands that do.

    • Let me address your points one by one:
      .I have yet to find a single MRA online that doesn’t blame/bash women and/or feminism, even if the issue is irrelevant to either women/feminism.
      - When feminisim is such a nebulous concept (that most women refuse to agree on because a united vision means you can have your arguments effectively countered) that inevitably results in females being granted privileges and rarely having to front up in terms of responsibility, that means one way or another men are paying for females, who are supposed to be equal, strong and independent.

      .There is an anti-feminist site dedicated to Marc Lepine, the man who killed more than a dozen innocent women for being angry about feminism “taking away men’s jobs.” MRAs flocked to it and defended him as a “folk hero,” saying that sacrificing a handful of women to show them the “evils of feminism” was for their own good.
      - How many women support Lorena Bobbitt? Andrea Winkler? Valerie Solanas? Or, do they take all the privileges of feminism while saying “I’m not a feminist, but a man should keep me in a style to which I’m accustomed, and I’m equal to any man”. None of these MRA’s are dating serial killers or violent criminals though… which I’m sure a lot of women do.

      .Many MRAs on sites like YouTube make very hateful comments against women and/or feminism, and they often generalize one or both.
      - Many feminists on sites like YouTube make very hateful comments against men and/or men’s rights, and they often generalize one or both.

      .Misogynistic comments often get upvoted, even if they advocate abuse towards women for doing something to “provoke the man.” If a comment defends women, it’s downvoted.
      - If the comment defends women thoughtlessly, it’s downvoted. If men and women are equal, and men can do something to provoke a woman, why isn’t the reverse possible? Or is this another attempt to say “men have no feelings” BUT when they get angry (hey, isn’t that a feeling) they have to “take it like a man”?

      .Many deny that women were ever oppressed, claiming that women had it good by getting to stay home and not be represented in politics and science since those are “men’s fields.” (Not that there’s anything wrong with being a housewife, but choices are nice.)
      - Many women deny that men were ever oppressed, claiming it was a man’s duty to go out and earn money for a woman, and not be represented in nursing and childcare since those are “women’s fields.” (Not that there’s anything wrong with being a worker, but choices are nice.)

      .They accuse female bloggers/commenters of being “misandric” and bashing males, even though most feminists who write their opinions online constantly show they’re not man-haters.
      - Pandagon, Alas a blog, Amanda Marcotte? You accuse male bloggers/commenters of being “misogynistic” and bashing women, even though most men who write their opinions online constantly show they’re not woman haters. Just haters of people who take advantages but want none of the responsibility.

      Honestly, I have yet to see a single MRA that isn’t hateful towards women, and I read their posts/comments all the time. I have tried to find one that doesn’t bash women, but I have yet to find one (this is not an exaggeration). This turns me away from them and their “movement.”
      - If a man doesn’t like a woman, he hates all women. If a man doesn’t like something a woman does, he hates all women. If a man disagrees with how the woman is trying to steer a relationship, he hates all women. A lot of men get turned off from feminism when they realise it is just a vehicle to exploit their attention and resources while women exercise sexual liberation with some guy and expect the nice guy to pay for it at the end.

      “I believe that they bring up valid points about fathers’ rights and whatnot, but the way they’re going about it is sexist and demeaning to women.”
      If the points are valid, and you complain about the delivery, it may mean that you are only ever looking to complain so that you never have to live up to your end of the arrangement.

      .If you don’t want women to think MRAs are misogynists, then stop supporting the hundreds, if not thousands that do.
      If you don’t want men to think all women are at the very least, “feminists when it suits”, then stop supporting the near-billions that do.

      You’re going to side with MRA’s/MGTOW’s a hell of a lot more, once you get involved with a man, then he gets falsely accused of rape, or is currently paying alimony to a former wife that doesn’t work.
      You conveniently ascribe the privileges of the top men, to all men.
      Do you think being a labourer years ago was cool? Compared to being a female aristocrat?
      You’ve just made plenty of generalisations about men, hypocrisy much?
      Come back to me about your sisterhood when you lose a job to a less qualified but prettier woman. Or “is that just the way it is”? After all, when a job is between a man and a woman, the woman should get it because she’s been oppressed;
      But when it’s between an ugly woman and a pretty one, the pretty one should get it because “that’s just the way it is”.

      • “When feminisim is such a nebulous concept (that most women refuse to agree on because a united vision means you can have your arguments effectively countered) that inevitably results in females being granted privileges and rarely having to front up in terms of responsibility, that means one way or another men are paying for females, who are supposed to be equal, strong and independent.”

        I love how you use “men” alongside “females” instead of “women.” Maybe you’re not aware of it, but that’s an example of demeaning language. Also, name some of these “privileges.” Men are still seen as the “default” human, which is a pretty damn big privilege.

        “How many women support Lorena Bobbitt? Andrea Winkler? Valerie Solanas? Or, do they take all the privileges of feminism while saying “I’m not a feminist, but a man should keep me in a style to which I’m accustomed, and I’m equal to any man”. None of these MRA’s are dating serial killers or violent criminals though… which I’m sure a lot of women do.”

        As far as I know, the average feminist doesn’t support any of those women you mentioned.

        “Many feminists on sites like YouTube make very hateful comments against men and/or men’s rights, and they often generalize one or both.”

        Then why don’t I see any? I’ve looked, and there are almost NO anti-male comments. Are you truly blind or being ignorant on purpose?

        “If the comment defends women thoughtlessly, it’s downvoted. If men and women are equal, and men can do something to provoke a woman, why isn’t the reverse possible? Or is this another attempt to say “men have no feelings” BUT when they get angry (hey, isn’t that a feeling) they have to “take it like a man”?”

        Give me an example of “defending a woman thoughtlessly.” Apparently, it’s okay to attack women thoughtlessly, though! Also, most feminists believe men have feelings and should express them. Your perception is totally inaccurate.

        “Many women deny that men were ever oppressed, claiming it was a man’s duty to go out and earn money for a woman, and not be represented in nursing and childcare since those are “women’s fields.” (Not that there’s anything wrong with being a worker, but choices are nice.)”

        All you did was, once again, twist my words around and replace them with “male,” “men,” etc. At least men could go out and get recognized, win awards, etc. Women were discouraged from being anything but housewives. They didn’t even get an education.

        “Pandagon, Alas a blog, Amanda Marcotte? You accuse male bloggers/commenters of being “misogynistic” and bashing women, even though most men who write their opinions online constantly show they’re not woman haters. Just haters of people who take advantages but want none of the responsibility.”

        I don’t recall much about those blogs, but I can say with certainty that they don’t go out of their way to bash the entire male gender. MRA sites, on the other hand, almost always do. Instead of critiquing feminism, they blame feminism for all of their woes. They complain about how they “deserve a woman who respects them” without showing any respect themselves. They are the definition of hateful, plain and simple.

        “If a man doesn’t like a woman, he hates all women. If a man doesn’t like something a woman does, he hates all women. If a man disagrees with how the woman is trying to steer a relationship, he hates all women. A lot of men get turned off from feminism when they realise it is just a vehicle to exploit their attention and resources while women exercise sexual liberation with some guy and expect the nice guy to pay for it at the end.”

        Ugh, leave it up to an MRA to exaggerate. Do you even READ what those people say? Some of them outright admit their hatred for women and claim that they’re inferior. I know of very, very few feminists who say such things. You must be going out of your way to look for the radicals (especially those who aren’t even relevant anymore, like Solanis).

        “If the points are valid, and you complain about the delivery, it may mean that you are only ever looking to complain so that you never have to live up to your end of the arrangement.”

        Uh, what? Here’s how it usually goes: “Men deserve more parental rights.” “Okay.” “So we should stop the evil feminists!” Then he goes on to complain about everything he hates about women, totally generalizing them in the process (“only uses me for money,” “nags all the time,” etc.).

        “You’re going to side with MRA’s/MGTOW’s a hell of a lot more, once you get involved with a man, then he gets falsely accused of rape, or is currently paying alimony to a former wife that doesn’t work.”

        MRAs just love to assume that the man is always at a disadvantage in a relationship, because all women are automatically evil and out to get men.

        “You’ve just made plenty of generalisations about men, hypocrisy much?”

        Uh, no. I don’t make generalizations about men. I do, however, point out the hypocritical rants of angry, bigoted MRAs.

        “Come back to me about your sisterhood when you lose a job to a less qualified but prettier woman. Or “is that just the way it is”? After all, when a job is between a man and a woman, the woman should get it because she’s been oppressed;
        But when it’s between an ugly woman and a pretty one, the pretty one should get it because “that’s just the way it is”.”

        Come back when you shed some of that paranoia. Too many conspiracy theories don’t look good on you.

        Oh, one more thing. There was a woman who got fired for being TOO ATTRACTIVE. Being attractive has advantages, but you’re too quick to think that an attractive woman has all the advantages. An attractive woman in a male-dominated industry is automatically assumed to be incompetent. If you think only men deal with unfair things, then you need a reality check.

        • Too bad you can’t hit me with a false rape accusation, a charge of “he’s violent and scary and I don’t feel safe” or “he tried to cheat me”.
          I hope your boyfriend is not planning on beating me up, ahahahaha…
          When people wise up… those trying to deceive are going to find fewer marks.

        • I was going to respond to this Arielle at first, but then I got to the point where she said she hadn’t seen NOT ONE SINGLE feminist ever say anything anti-male… And then I was like… I’m not bothering. This creature is an insane troll.

        • I was going to respond to this Arielle at first, but then I got to the point where she said she hadn’t seen NOT ONE SINGLE feminist ever say anything anti-male… And then I was like… I’m not bothering. This creature is an insane troll.

          She’s an insane troll, but she doesn’t realize she is one. She reminds me of when Susan Walsh told me that there was no misandry on her blog, and Susan Walsh actually expected me to believe that.

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