Gamers have very strange attitudes towards porn and masturbation. Gamer, “Strong Man”, thinks porn and masturbation are problematic at a biological level in addition to being against the Bible. (Of course, we’re supposed to believe him, a gamer, over reputable scientific and medical authorities.) Ferdinand Bardamu is on some sort of anti-masturbation quest for reasons that don’t make sense. Obsidian actually claims that because of game he’s hasn’t masturbated since high school. Is anyone stupid enough to believe that? Obsidian is in his early 40s which means that he is saying that he hasn’t masturbated for 25 years. If that is true, then he is impotent, and everything he has ever said is a lie. (Even if he’s not impotent, everything Obsidian has said is probably a lie regardless.)
Why are gamers against porn and masturbation? Why would a gamer lie that he hasn’t had to masturbate in 25 years? The first reason is bragging, specifically bragging about they don’t “need” to masturbate since because they are getting laid so much. (In reality, gamers aren’t getting laid that much or else they wouldn’t have time to write voluminous posts on blogs.) The second reason is because of all gamers running a scam trying to sell you something. The game scammers go after any and all “competition” against game. Porn and masturbation are competitiors to game. If you’re using porn and/or masturbating (or going to hookers), then you have no need of “game products” like Athol Kay’s book or game conventions. It’s all about the money. If you’re spending money on hookers or porn or getting porn for free or masturbating which is free, then you aren’t spending money on game. Since masturbation is free, porn is easily available on the internet for free, gamers have to attack porn and masturbation in a bizarre fashion. They effectively have to claim porn and masturbation are “unholy” because they can’t beat the price of free. With game so much of it comes down to the money, and this case is no different.
I think many gamers are against excessive masturbation because it kills the libido and desire to bang new girls.
Other than that, no gamer I know gives a shit if you masturbate or not.
Not so much a matter with older men but they realize that teens are partaking in it and that’s what’s worrying them.
But guys, in a society that’s disconnected is it not obvious that the normal interactions that take place now such as Facebook will carry over into online porn? Talking to a friend a while back and he was concerned that his teen age son would rather watch porn than than talk to women in real life. The ease and availability of it not too mention the low quality women and numbers of them performing in some form of porn pretty much guarantee it.
One other thing to take in and this applies to many men in their 20′s and beyond. It’s not so much that men find it easier to use porn rather than chase women. It’s that the women have shunned so many of them for so long that their only choice is to use porn. And then we these women tire of the carousel guess what? The betas are no where to be found because they’d rather watch porn for a few minutes rather than put up with these bottom of the barrel women. They hate women and they have every right and reason to.
Speaks volumes of American and the west. But is also is following the path as laid and out written in the Feminism Bubble. It’s not the consumption of porn by men that will eventually burst it. It’s the self consumption of women and the numbers of low quality piss poor women that are rejected by men and end up broke and alone that will.
While gamers say porn and masturbation are bad…
Why don’t they point out to women that chick flicks and romance novels and dildos are bad?
Unless of course, they’re trying to score points with women… by not actually being better, but by making out other men to be _worse_ without justification.
After all, the gamers and the players are the ones who get the most mileage pushing their “animal sensuality” “being experienced sexually” along with “aloof amusement”.
It’s definitely fair if most men decide to go without women, leaving them to the alpha cock carousel they want – given the unrealistic expectations and entitlement mentality, along with screeching hissy fits that women who want equality yet demand men who earn more than them, that is what they deserve.
That’s a great point. I’ve never seen gamers criticize “female porn” – they always defend or justify it as something that “just is”. They always talk about molding around “what just is”… and how you have to accept women’s spoiled/shitty behavior and just “game” around it.
You’re going to need to quote from something I’ve actually said rather than what someone else said about me. I’ve posted a number of times the porn “is not a problem until it is a problem” similar to alcohol use.
Masturbation is only an issue when a husband jerks off so much he can’t get it up anymore to screw his wife. This is a basic wife compliant about excessive porn and masturbation. Again, this is something I’ve posted on a numner of times.
I’ve made no secret that I’m writing with the intent for turning a profit. But how you think a $19.99 print or $9.99 Kindle 344 page book compares to failed convention is beyond me.
The entire point of the book is to summarize basic game theory into a cheap and easy to read package, with special application to marriage and LTRs.
Fair enough. I will rewrite that part in a few minutes.
“Basic wife complaint” sounds like BS. How many married guys are masturbating so much that they aren’t having sex with their wives? Very few. It’s more likely that a married man is masturbating because his wife refuses to put out for him.
Since game doesn’t exist, I suspicious of anything game that is being sold. I’m suspicious when it’s free too. Saying “The entire point of the book is to summarize basic game theory into a cheap and easy to read package, with special application to marriage and LTRs” is no different than “The entire point of the book is to summarize basic Scientology into a cheap and easy to read package, with special application to marriage and LTRs”.
Hey! You stole my scientology analogy! I demand loyalty fees!!!
Just kidding
It really is the most appropriate when it comes to game. It’s the easiest way to illustrate the silliness of game.
This is just more proof that game is gynocentric. The loudest female complainers out there are complaining that their man won’t have sex with them due to porn.
The reason these women are so loud is because they’re the exception. Those (unsexed due to porn) women know (and feel bad) that in most marriages it’s the opposite. In most marriages the GUY is begging the woman for sex, and she won’t give him any. Women who can’t get sex coz the guy jerks off too much, what’s that, 0.1% of marriages?
But is the gamer focusing on male complaints (90% + of marriages)? Nope. Game never validates male complaints. Men apparently never have a valid reason to complain, it’s always the man’s fault according to game, he always needs to ACCEPT MORE CHRIST in his life… Sorry, more GAME in his life for he has sinned!
“Masturbation is only an issue when a husband jerks off so much he can’t get it up anymore to screw his wife.”
Then just screw your wife WHILE looking at porn.
Make her feel real special that way. He He
Fabulous. You publish my viewpoint as the complete opposite of my viewpoint, and follow up with comparing my book to Scientology. This counts as an apology for balant ignorance at best ot purposeful lies at worst?
If you haven’t come across the issue of women complaining about sexless marriages where the husband has a porn addiction, that may simply be because you can’t perform even basic research. I suggest you start with any of the 1.2 million search results returned for “sexless marriage husband porn”.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&biw=1417&bih=717&q=sexless+marriage+husband+porn&btnG=Search&oq=sexless+marriage+husband+porn&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=0l0l0l191578l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0
Disbeliving in Game is essentially a disbelief in the possiblity of social skill.
Which I corrected since you pointed out it was incorrect.
I compared the whole of game to Scientology. Just as Scientology employs an army of lawyers as its “enforcers”, the church of game employs a lot of guys with time on their hands as its “enforcers”. (Of course, this army of “enforcers” shoudn’t exist because they should all be too busy getting laid to be “enforcers”.) Scientology’s lawyers can cause a person real trouble whereas game enforcers are at worst a minor nuisance.
I am not interested in women’s bullshit complaints about men. Men listening to women’s bullshit complaints is how we ended up with feminism and a misandrist government.
I did a very brief perusal of your google search and it included things other than women complaining about men masturbating to porn like men talking about how their wives don’t have sex with them anymore. It’s not exactly proof of a widespread problem.
For my entire life women’s bullshit complaints have been catered to so it’s not surprising that women would generate even more bullshit complaints. That doesn’t mean it reflects reality.
If game was social skill, then it would be called social skill and not game.
You don’t have to have a game blog to be a gamer.
Focus on the Family are a bunch of white knights for women. Their anti-porn ideology is part of that.
Disbeliving in SCIENTOLOGY is essentially a disbelief in the possiblity of personal development.
“Men listening to women’s bullshit complaints is how we ended up with feminism and a misandrist government.”
A-fucking-men to that.
Strong Man’s blog is hardly a game blog. It’s a religious one about marriage more than anything.
You may as well be upset that “Focus on the Family” is anti-porn.
Omega,
One, I think that Athol Kay has some good, useful stuff out there. Two, his book, as I understand it, is a compilation of his blog posts; it consolidates all his information in one, tidy place. Three, game does exist, though I do think it is oversold. That is to say that using game won’t get a short, fat, and bald guy scoring with 9s and 10s; he can though increase the rate at which he scores he scores with chicks in his league and slightly above it. Four, there’s nothing wrong with AK selling a book, especially at such a REASONABLE price. I paid more than twice as much for new windshield wiper blades yesterday! To only pay $10-$20 to have better relationships is money well spent; to put it another way, one date to the movies will cost MORE than AK’s book! Finally, knowing rudiments of game can make any relationship a guy enters better for both him and the woman.
MarkyMark
Gamers claim game will do this.
He’s not selling any book. He’s selling a game book.
That’s because you’re windshield wiper blades will do their job. Game doesn’t exist so any money spent on it even 2 cents is a waste.
Here’s my clarification on this. Here’s what I personally mean when I say “game doesn’t exist”.
1) Will the average game idiot PERCEIVE better results after discovering game? YES – MOST DEFINETELY YES
2) Will he get any results better than PLACEBO – Most definetely NOT
In my view, the term “game doesn’t exist” is best explained as “Game is no better than placebo”.
“Will he get any results better than PLACEBO – Most definetely NOT”
I’ve often wondered about this myself. That game just makes shy dudes less shy so, not surprisingly, they start scoring.
I’m also utterly surprised that you haven’t considered that one of the purposes of widespread and essentially free porn is to induce unattractive men to masturbate themselves into docile compliance with the current system.
WN, you keep being proven right. Gamer are in fact very often, if not always also conspiracy theorists :d Though that’s a requirment for any cult or faith-based system.
You have to believe there’s a world CONSPIRACY out to get you, and then this CULT will help you with its SECRET stashed away knowledge to gain an upper hand over the conspirators
From this:
http://aleknovy.com/2011/06/02/detrimental-attitudes-of-the-pickup-artist-community/
and
It’s not always the case that gamers are conspiracy theorists. I know PMAFT isn’t a conspiracy theorist, and I think The Fifth Horseman isn’t one either. Otherwise, most gamers are conspiracy theorists. Most of them also seem to believe in fad diets and fad exercise regimes. This could be considered diet and exercise conspiracy theory. Based on the fact that they never have talked about it, PMAFT and The Fifth Horseman again are the exceptions. (I’m assuming the fact that they haven’t talked about it means they aren’t invovled in fad diets and fad exercise regimes but I could be wrong.)
It’s all the same thing, secret knowledge that will supposedly get you an upper hand over the conspirators. If you look at most gamers, they are not getting an upper hand over anyone.
Yah, I’ve noticed the diet fads too.
It seems to be a personality characteristic. The guys who tend to fall for game, also fall for diet fads and super-special-secret exercise regimes, where apparently lifting the weight under a 45 angle (and not the evil 40 angle that the mainstream wants you to!) – will give you AMAZING results.
And it’s always the same things with gamers, diet fads, excercise fads, and conspiracy theory. Don’t gamers have any interests or hobbies besides conspiracy theory?
It’s because I’m not a conspiracy theorist. Why would porn and guys masturbating be part of some sort of Illuminati/Freemason/Jewish/Elite/Banker/etc. agenda? Next you will be telling me how Japanese herbivores are the result of a conspiracy. It’s so laughable, but this just proves that most gamers are conspiracy theorists.
Any of you seen this video?
Pretty good at cutting through a lot of game b.s.
That’s an AMAZING vid, by the way, I just found (courtesy of GeorgeC) the most amazing article about game, here’s some quotes from it:
and
http://lifestylejourney.blogspot.com/2010/02/pua-scam.html
Here’s some gems from that article:
No better than placebo
If you get laid without game-shit, you must be a natural?
On gamers kissing up to women, while paying lip-service to “not supplicating”
On the 5% argument, i.e. 5% of stuff in game material is good, therefore game is “ok”…
Here’s a great summary:
http://aleknovy.com/2011/08/01/the-best-article-on-the-game-scam-evah/
Porn is often just gross much of the time, and the only thing wrong with masturbation is what is also wrong with sex. Ejaculation. Ejaculation makes you stupid, slow, dull, and lazy in every way.
Only reason to ejaculate is to have a baby, otherwise ejaculation is violence against men.
If you look closely, religious reasons against masturbation are based on the fact that the male is “wasting the seed”. People seem to think it’s because you are not supposed to touch that part of your body. No. It’s because ejaculating makes you a dull drone.
And you also won’t be able to hoe the field as well the next day…
But after generations of stupid people and watered down dogma, things disintegrate to the understanding we have now.
Also sperm contains a very potent set of molecules that are super vitamins and increases a person’s happiness. Wasting it for a short buzz is really a crime against humanity.
I think I speak for everyone when I say [citation needed]
Especially for the part about how dead sperm somehow enter the digestive system.
Well too bad. I don’t feed trolls.
Of course, we all know why White and Nerdy is in favor of masturbation and porn – he can’t get laid because he’s a woman-hating creep.
Really? Have you ever left the house? If you did, you would notice the vast majority of guys who get laid the most are misogynists or at least chauvinists.
The by far criteria biggest criteria in how likely you are to get laid is how willing you are to put up with rejection.
Mentioning appreciation or hatred or love of women is a non-sequitor to the topic of getting laid.
See this:
http://aleknovy.com/2011/07/31/most-men-succesful-with-women-are-jerks-but-so-are-guys-who-love-women-and-womanhood/
You’re wrong, AlekNovy. Women can sense creepiness in men from a mile away. If White and Nerdy comes off as this misogynistic on the Internet, I can only imagine what he’s like in real life.
Women want REAL men, men who respect women, not whiny bitches who blubber on the Internet all day. Only a woman with no self-respect would date any of you slopeheads.
That underscores just how pathetic men like you and White and Nerdy are – you can’t even get the women with low self-esteem to fuck you.
If women can sense creepiness in men a mile away,
why do women initiate over 75% of the divorces that occur?
Your “men who respect women” are actually “the men you want to have sex with”. I think you confuse the two, because the “men who respect women” that you do not want to have sex with, won’t get any attention from you.
For one of the “superior communicators”, I see you have some catching up to do.
Then again, I guess when it takes longer for you to mature… it is to be expected.
The fact that you came to troll on this blog proves that you have little self-esteem, because if you had any you would have no need for you trolling activities. I can sense that you have feelings of inadequacy here on the other side of the world.
P Ray, women initiate more divorces because modern men are weak and unable to hold up their end of the bargain. If you would man up and stop crying like a baby, a woman might actually want to be with you.
And I know perfectly well what I want, and neither I nor my friends would ever associate with men who hung out on blogs like this. I’ve been with my boyfriend for seven years precisely BECAUSE he respects and cherishes women. I just showed him this blog and says you’re “a bunch of whiny douchehats”.
And FunkyLover, I think you’re projecting, because if you had any self-respect, you wouldn’t be whining on a blog about how those evil meanie women won’t give you the time of day.
Seven years and not yet married? Isn’t he man enough, ahahahaha….
Maybe that’s the kind of guy that you choose… the one who won’t commit, and then you tell the men who WILL commit, that they’re not worth anything – because you want the option to leave without fuss.
Your boyfriend, I hope you don’t tell him to try and beat me up.
The bravery disappears when a criminal charge can be placed.
Have you ever left the house and been out on social situations, you know met different kinds of women and people and noticed how they judge situations?
If you had, you would know that:
a) NO TWO WOMEN define creepiness the same way. I’ve been with many female friends who when meeting the same guy they all seperately had opposite reactions “creepy, cute, funny, respectful, nice, sexy, ewww, douchebag, sweet”.
Men also know from experience in the real world that:
b) The exact same approach to different women gets one to wet her panties in pleasure, another to call you a creep, a third to call you perverted, a fourth to call you weird, a fifth to call you sweet, a sixth to call you “edgy” etc…
how… exactly…
do you explain domestic violence? I mean the really brutal kind? Does the guy who beats his girlfriends to a bloody pulp “respect women”?
You realize you’re not making much sense right? The two can’t exist, you have to either belive that:
A) Domestic violence and violent boyfriends don’t exist or are super-rare
or
B) Women go for guys who disrespect women all the time
The both can’t co-exist in the same universe. Unless you think its possible for a man to “respect women” and then beat the shit out of them?
I think she’s getting around to the idea that the “best men that she wants” only disrespect the “women who deserve it”. Of course, we have to say it, because logic is patriarchal.
We are seeing the corrupt sisterhood in action here, where she figures that in the pursuit of happiness, she’ll step on other men and women to get there (of course, in return for not having their reputations ruined or be bullied, the ugly girls will toe the party line). You go, grrl!
The men who are allowed to disrespect women and get away with it,
are the men she’s attracted to.
The men who are not allowed to disrespect women and get away with it,
are the men she’s NOT attracted to.
Two sets of rules, quite predictable actually. An object lesson in feminism.
Bullshit: “Good genes, mating effort, and delinquency”
(Martin L. Lalumièrea and Vernon L. Quinseyb
a Forensic Program, Centre for Addiction and Mental Health, 250
College Street, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, M5T 1R8;b Department of Psychology, Queen’s University at Kingston, Humphrey Hall, Kingston, Ontario, Canada, K7L 3N6.)
This describes a real observable tendency for females to preferrentially mate with ‘high-risk’(delinquent and abusive) males.
Creepiness is a catch all euphemism of unattractiveness, spun through the attribution biases of irrational females.
Ultimately, it is nothing more than an attack on the reputation of undesirable men, laced with calumny – and thus a degenerate case of unattractiveness.
Getting laid and then having to explain that the condition your kids have is because Mommy had a lot of fun with men other than Daddy, is a good reason not to simply “get laid”. Along with STDs, false rape accusations, blackmail…
I suppose one reason why women tell men to just “get laid” to solve their problems, is because for women that has been a proven strategy to gain resources, favours, money and status.
There’s a solution to those problems – condoms. You’d know that if you weren’t a loser whose only girlfriend has been your right hand.
Enjoy dying alone.
I’m enjoying not paying for someone like you to give me a mental problem.
Enjoy your cats!
If you’re planning on killing your boyfriend/husband in a bizarre pact so that you don’t die alone, maybe speaking to a grief counselor is something you should consider.
From what I understand, natural deaths usually happen singly among people. Pairs or more do not die in sync with each other – what gave you the idea that you DON’T die alone?
Please elaborate, how do condoms help against false rape charges or blackmail?
Hope you’ll enjoy dying alone too.
W & N wrote:
The PUA does not hold women accountable, and instead pushes the black and white view that success with women is ALL up to you (the man).
That’s a real problem I see with self-help gurus – they like to push this idea that you’re responsible and accountable for everything (so presumably you can improve where you’re deficient). Carried to extremes it leads to delusional beliefs. Look at Obsidian’s obsession with astrology if you want an example. He’s also said that PUAs won’t have problems with false rape accusations if they do things ‘right’.
I’m replying here to P Ray’s comment about me being a “cat lady” because all the “Reply” buttons on my screen have disappeared. White and Nerdy should do something about that.
P Ray, it makes you feel better to pretend I’m some sort of lonely old lady? In reality, I’m in my 20′s, I’m way better looking than any woman you could ever trick into fucking you, and I have a wonderful, loving boyfriend. It’s truly sad that you’ll never experience the joy of being in a committed relationship.
You’re too old for me, sorry.
And you’re probably too diseased as well. After all, I’m betting he’s not your first boyfriend.
And I’m betting you haven’t told him your number of sexual partners.
I pity your boyfriend.
You know, those shaming techniques require that the target be ignorant of women today.
There’s a ton of hot women who will fuck anyone. I’ve personally had the ugliest, fattest, most unsocial guys come to me, and I just told them to approach and ask out women until one said yes.
Guess what? They only had to ask maybe 50% more before one said yes. Women are extremely desperate these days.
The only difference between a guy who gets laid and one who doesn’t is how much rejection one is willing to take. That’s about it.
20s… too old. (I am exactly 20)
So why did you come on this blog to brag about it?
Just want to spoil our party eh?
Awww…
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