Conspiracy Theorists Will Turn On The MRM

Alek Novy and I have written some comments about how conspiracy theorists will turn on the MRM once the MRM gets mainstream enough.  I thought these comments deserved to be featured in a post.  The first one is from Alek Novy.

These days, anyone whoever mentions feminism in a negative context is automatically branded “one of our own”, which is just silly.

The only reason conspiracy theorists like Hawaiian blob are mentioning feminism negatively is because they make conspiracy theories about everything. They just throw everything and everything into that grinder.

This morning for example… I saw a guy walking around the street YELLING… like running toward the janitors and yelling something about the end of the world, and how the janitors are in on it (because they work for the city council)…

Then he ran and yelled something about aliens, and then he started running into traffic, yelling at the cars (talking to the headlights I think)… This went on for like 40 minutes (while he was in my sight I mean).

By Marky’s logic, if this nutcase had also yelled “And those goddamned feminists, they’re in on it too, they’re part of the alien plan too” —> I should have befriended the nutcase?

Come on, get real. Not everybody that mentions feminism in a negative light is an ally. We’re not that desperate.

I wrote in response.

And when conspiracy theorists do that anti-feminism becomes meaningless. Guys like Hawaiian Fat Blob say they’re against feminism, but in what meaningful way are they against feminism? Saying feminism is bad because it’s something the Jews/Rockefellers/Illuminati did doesn’t tell me why feminism is bad. If conspiracy theorists didn’t think that the Jews/Rockefellers/Illuminati were involved with feminism, then they would have no problem with it. To me that makes them de facto feminists, since they would be willing to support feminism in a different context.

PMAFT has talked about how the MRM will eventually become part of all these conspiracies which makes sense since like you said, everything gets thrown into the conspiracy theory grinder. Since the conspiracy theorists will turn on us when the MRM becomes large enough/influential enough, then why should be include them now?

Alek Novy wrote on his blog.

The last part is the most important one. Note that these guys are just contrarians. They are anti-whatever-the-mainstream-is. Whatever the current mainstream or leading diet proposal, these guys latch onto a conspiracy theory diet fad that is opposite of it. Whatever the leading advice on making money, they find a conspiracy theory that says that’s a conspiracy to keep you poor etc… etc… If MRA ever gets mainstream, they’ll turn against the MRA and claim the MRA was Rockefeller funded.

Why should we take conspiracy theorists seriously?  Besides the lack of evidence and how insane conspiracy theorists obviously are, as soon as the MRM is successful enough, the conspiracy theorists will turn on us because that will be a “contrarian” position from their perspective.  Conspiracy theorists aren’t going to help us with anti-feminism, so why bother with them?

Susan Walsh

Several questions have been asked about Susan Walsh.  I don’t have the time right now to run through all of the problems with her because such a thing would approach being a doctoral dissertation.  Instead I will do my best to provide a brief summary with some examples.  None of the examples I list are freak occurrences.  They are part of a pattern on Susan Walsh’s part going back at least two years of lies, deceit, and woman firstism.  She claims not to be a feminist, but only because she has tried to redefine feminist purely in terms of being a slut.  This definition fails to capture what feminism is really about, female supremacism, and Susan Walsh is a female supremacist.

One question that was asked was whether Susan Walsh is pro-game or not.  This should answer that.

This is the reason I am vociferously pro-Game and anti-feminism.

The anti-feminist part is effectively a lie as I said, but there is no doubt now about her stance on game.

Susan Walsh appeared in the manosphere around two years ago give or take.  Some the gamers tried to convince her of game.  There were quite a few fights between the gamers and her because at first she didn’t buy into game.  Eventually, she did, likely because she realized that the cult of Roissysphere game can be used to control men for the benefit of women.  Once this happened all of the gamers that were fighting her stopped that and starting kissing her ass except one, Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech, one of the few (possibly the only) sane gamers out there.  PMAFT’s perspective is not about game as much as it is about mens rights and respect for men, so he wasn’t taken in by her sudden conversion to being pro-game.  PMAFT kept on disagreeing with her so she eventually banned him from hooking up morons.  She tried to claim that PMAFT couldn’t hold a “civil conversation”, but those of us who know PMAFT know that is bullshit.  You can read more about this on PMAFT’s blog at this link.

It was sometime after this that I came along to the manosphere.  For a while I got on fine with Susan Walsh.  Then one day all of a sudden, she went nuts about me.  She started calling me “creepy”, not to me since she doesn’t talk to me anymore, but to other people.  Calling a virgin man like myself, “creepy”, is no different than calling a black person a nigger, or using any sort of racist or anti-semitic slur.  I can’t give you links exactly what happened with Susan Walsh because it’s all in her head.  Here is an example of her calling me creepy.

Keoni, I’ve wrestled with this guy before. He’s impossible to reason with, he just lashes out irrationally. He was a fixture on HUS even before he started blogging and finally left in a huff claiming I’d banned him. I hadn’t but I would have been justified in doing so – he hijacked a bunch of threads complaining about everyone without taking any responsibility whatsoever for his own circumstances.

This is what women mean when they use the word creepy.

Not only did Susan Walsh call me creepy but she lied (like she does over and over again).  I never said that she banned me from hooking up stupid.  I left because commenting there was a waste of time, not “in a huff”.  What she calls my “not taking responsibility” is my refusal to believe in game.  Since game doesn’t exist, women aren’t just automatons responding to men.  They are responsible for what they do, and I was holding women responsible.  She also has the nerve to call me irrational when Hawaiian Fat Blob was writing a conspiracy theory about how I was down voting his comments on The Spearhead, and when I had to delete various comments from gamers because they were coming here to drive traffic to their blogs.  One of HFB’s sycophants, Workshy Joe, another gamer who has employment problems, admitted to this.

For the sake of brevity, I going to skip a lot here.  There’s a lot of talk about the 80/20 rule, where 20% of men are having sex with 80% of the women.  Gamers think this is true, and more or less so do I.  Susan Walsh has talked about the 80/20 rule as well, which the gamers took to mean that she agreed with them.  She let them think this.  What Susan Walsh meant by the 80/20 rule was that 80% of sex is happening between 20% of the men and 20% of the women.  Not that long ago, Susan Walsh’s duplicity in this area was uncovered.  Later in the comments, she tries to pull some BS by claiming various surveys about a person’s number of sex partners are anonymous which by definition can’t be.  (The survey thing is better explained here and here.)  What Susan Walsh is trying to do here is invoke the myth of equal suffering as described on The Spearhead, in order for women to not be held accountable for their actions.  She tried the same thing when she was still talking to me.  She said that there women “in the same situation as me”.  I challenged her to produce a 33 year old involuntary virgin woman.  Susan Walsh did not do this and let this insult to my intelligence stand.

As a result of all this one of her sycophants made up a conspiracy theory that I had “invaded” Dalrock’s blog, and all the anti-Susan Walsh comments were really sock puppets of me.  I didn’t even know that there were people rightfully criticizing Susan Walsh until after that conspiracy theory accusation was made against me.  Despite that, even many of the gamers were starting to catch on to Susan Walsh’s lies, passive aggressive behavior, and general modus operandi as explained in the following by Anonymous Reader.

Unfortunately a key part of her “hanging in there” consisted of simply ignoring facts that did not agree with her pre-determined conclusion. This is part of a pattern with Walsh; she makes some sweeping generalization, men provide examples that disprove it, she ignores them or even belittles them with some feeble snark, then she goes on to repeat the same false claim again in some other venue. In the case of surveys, there are some major issues with truthfulness of women that Walsh refuses to discuss. Basil posted a small study that clearly demonstrated that women will lie about number of sexual partners except when they believe that they are certain to be caught. This doesn’t surprise me as a man, but apparently it doesn’t fit in well with Walsh’s view of women – so she ignores it. I’m not impressed when someone claims to be ‘open minded’ one minute and then demonstrates obvious close-mindedness the next. Actions speaking louder than words, once again. I bet that even if someone went to Walsh’s own blog and posted links to the study, or even the study itself, she’d continue to ignore it.

And yes, I’m going to bring up her claim that she can spot entitled women just by looking at them from time to time. Because it is a claim that is testable, but she refuses to test it. It is a claim that flies right in the face of some men I know, and she refuses to acknowledge that. Her arrogant ignorance in this matter doesn’t give me any confidence at all in anything else Walsh has to say, frankly.

This matters because Walsh on the one hand is presenting herself as an honest debater, and an honest researcher. But honest debate means putting claims to the test, testing hypotheses and admitting if they cannot pass muster. Honest research means following evidence wherever it leads, not starting with a preconceived idea and only accepting data that supports it.

Based on what I’ve here and elsewhere:

Susan Walsh says she looks at all the data, but her actions are those of someone who is cherry picking surveys to support a predetermined conclusion.

Susan Walsh says she’s willing to learn from men and admit when she’s wrong, but her actions to me are those of someone who has zero interest in men’s real experience and an arrogant refusal to admit any error.

So as far as I’m concerned, she appears to be just another “Team Women!” player, and nothing more.

PMAFT, another gamer, said something similar.

You have realized the same thing I have discovered a long time ago. The only difference between her and Amanda Marcotte is that Susan Walsh is running a better con. It’s telling that Susan Walsh’s only opposition to feminism is the part of feminism she perceives as harming women. She agrees with every other part of feminism. For example, she is against men going expat to find wives/form families (not to mention men going ghost). This shows that Susan Walsh wants to keep men in the marriage 2.0 system. This is one of a thousand examples.

Her attempt to redefine the 80/20 rule is another example of how Susan Walsh is playing for Team Woman and nothing more. She is trying to claim that women are suffering the same lack of sex men are. We know this is not true. Walsh’s subtle redefinition of the 80/20 rule is similar to duplicitous Middle Eastern leaders who say one thing in English for American/Western consumption and another thing in Arabic for local consumption.

Put all of this together, and it becomes clear that Susan Walsh is all about trying to keep men locked in to the feminist system here in the West. Just because she disagrees with (or is willing to sacrifice) some transgender sex-positive lesbians does not mean that Susan Walsh isn’t playing for Team Woman.

Over the last week, Susan Walsh’s true nature was exposed again at Dalrock’s blog when she revealed what she thinks causes divorce.  A man commenting at her blog said the following.

Men are shattered and blind sided by divorce far more than women are. Usually the woman you files for divorce has slowly been making up her mind to do it for some time with much consultation with her girl friends. Maybe because she cheated and thus dissolved her feels of bondedness when married women have good emotional sex with another man, but not when men do.

This was Susan Walsh’s angry response.

Provide stats for this or shut up. Men cheat more than women do. How do you account for that in divorces initiated by women? He breaks the contract, she files. Sounds fair to me. Yes, there are frivolous divorces, but I’d like to know what percentage of female-initiated divorces they are. I think this theme is exaggerated and overblown in the manosphere echo chamber.

Everyone in the manosphere knows the truth about divorce.  We all know how it is female initiated for the flimsiest of reasons, yet Susan Walsh both insults our intelligence and proves she is no anti-feminist with this comment.  She said that divorce only happens because men cheat which we know is bullshit.  You have to read all of the comments to that link above.  (Don’t complain that it’s too long.  It’s all relevant.)  Eventually you will find out how Susan Walsh digs a deeper hole for herself on this issue, lies about what this gamer said, accuses Dalrock of taking what she said out of context when he didn’t, etc.  Eventually, even Dalrock gets tired of Susan Walsh’s bullshit.

Even if she ultimately acknowledges the reality of frivolous divorce, there still is her bizarre denial that she ever wrote what she did, not to mention her characterization of her statement Provide stats for this or shut up. as I expressed a curiosity as to what percentage of female-initiated divorces are frivolous. She also is claiming that she was responding to an entirely different comment from Doug1 than the one she quoted in her response. She doesn’t characterize this as an oversight or error on her part, she simply denies her reply was actually a reply to the comment everyone can see she quoted.

Lastly, I’m not impressed by her stance that she hasn’t had a chance to look into the topic of frivolous divorce. Given her long history blogging with a primary goal of getting women married, at the very least it shows a profound lack of intellectual curiosity. How can this not have ever interested her before? Furthermore, she clearly has seen the issue raised repeatedly on my site and others across the manosphere and instead of considering what she read dismissed it out of hand. Her latest statement (the one the OP is in response to) betrays a deep hostility to men’s complaints about women taking advantage of the system. Taken all together her driving passion seems to be to put as many women as possible in the position of being able to victimize men through the unfair marriage laws and courts.

Read that last sentence several times to make sure it sinks in.  The end result of this is that the gamers are all realizing the truth about Susan Walsh that PMAFT first realized back in early 2010, something he realized even before I did.

Dalrock,

Taken all together her driving passion seems to be to put as many women as possible in the position of being able to victimize men through the unfair marriage laws and courts.

Wow. Pretty harsh. But probably true…

And this is just a couple of days after dragnet and others had explained how she is ‘not that bad’. I agreed with the position at the time, but now I think I will re-assess.

Susan Walsh has both a daughter *and* a son, btw.

You will notice that sentence at the end about how Susan Walsh has both a daughter and a son.  The fact that she has a son rarely comes up whereas the fact that she has a daughter comes up all of the time.  When someone says, “Susan Walsh is just trying to help her daughter,” the question I have to ask is what about her son?  That’s in addition to “helping her daughter” seems to mean “putting as many women as possible in the position of being able to victimize men through the unfair marriage laws and courts” which is by definition at the expense of her son.  This is even more clear when you learn about Susan Walsh’s life story which was being a slut followed by snagging a beta to bail her out.  What she is trying to do is make sure her daughter has that option because men are figuring out what is going on and will not be the beta to bail out an aging slut.

I could write about more examples from the last two years, but Susan Walsh’s pattern of lies, deceit, and woman firstism is clear.  To end this, I am going to add a comment from Roosh’s forum about Susan Walsh.

ehh, I don’t care for her. Her tone of writing is insultingly saccharine, though I suppose that’s inevitable when writing for women. The woman earned an MBA from Wharton, but you’d never guess it from her writing.

She takes what male game/MRA writers say, misunderstands half of it, and then relays it to her female readers. Many of those readers, by the way, seem to be there for her patented 12 Step Slut Rehab Program™.

When I read her site, I feel like I’m reading “How to Manipulate Men for Dummies.” It feels like the goal is not a successful satisfying relationship with a man she loves, but rather how to “get what you want” out of dating, how to have the relationship on “her terms.” The man is merely an accessory, to good feelings and status among her peers. It feels like the impetus for the site is sluts get pumped and dumped, and they want to know how to keep Mr. Alpha around.

Slut Rehab is definitely what hooking up stupid should be called.

Update: Dalrock made the following comment, and I think it should be included.

I’m glad this is clear for you, because I read what she wrote several times and still have no idea where she stands on the topic of the post. It reminds me an awful lot of a speech by a politician. She made a claim, I refuted it. She then proceeded to deny making the claim, question my integrity, accuse me of taking her comment out of context, and obfuscate the issue. I have given her the benefit of the doubt whenever I could, and worked very hard to not make this a personal issue. In return she scolds, accuses, and makes it personal. Now, as someone predicted, she returns as if none of this happened and apologizes for offending anyone who feels strongly about the issue of divorce. I expected much more from Susan.

Even the part which appears to be acknowledging an error is actually restating what she said in the beginning, and reiterating her defense that she was taken out of context:

In truth, it was not my intention to say that women do not file for divorce frivolously. I am well aware that they do. However, my desire to have the exchange put in context is legitimate.

Note that this is not a retraction of the position that I challenged. She didn’t say that women never file for divorce frivolously. She said:

Yes, there are frivolous divorces, but I’d like to know what percentage of female-initiated divorces they are. I think this theme is exaggerated and overblown in the manosphere echo chamber.

As far as I can tell she hasn’t retracted this and is simply continuing to deny and deflect, all the while continuing to accuse me of taking her out of context.

The Paleo Diet Works As Well As Game Does

The paleo diet works as well as game does.  IOW it doesn’t.  I have said many times, “Gamers get laid as much as I do.”  This is not hyperbole.  It’s a fact.  Everything else gamers say is pure bluster and bullshit.  It’s the same with the paleo diet.  No one is losing weight or getting healthier with the paleo diet.  Anything you hear to the contrary is pure bluster and bullshit, just like with game.  The paleo diet is different than game in one sense.  We can look at pictures of paleo dieters to see if they are fat or not.  Alek Novy uncovered some pictures of paleo dieters, the following is what he had to say about it in the previous post.

Speaking of Paleo, I stumbled across the photo-strip from that guy all gamers go to scamdvice on nutrition, Mark’s apple or whatever:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/14316944@N08/

Look at all the fatties on there. There’s not a single fit-looking fella on there. Maybe Hawaiian mangina is one of the dorks on these pics? Man, some of the most fat ones are the most religious, look at the super-fat-dude who tatooes paleo on his arm…

What more do you need?  Everything these Roissysphere gamers believe in from game, to the paleo diet, to conspiracy theory, to whatever else is bullshit.

The Two Ultimate Examples Why Game Doesn’t Exist

Here are the two ultimate examples why game doesn’t exist, and gamers are total fools.  First, many gamers flee to places like Eastern Europe and Thailand (as mentioned by Forweg).  Gamers shouldn’t have to go to second and third world countries according to their beliefs.  They should be able to get women wherever they are.  Even uber-gamers like Roosh have this problem.  He once complained about the women in DC, which was obviously an admission that he couldn’t get women in DC.  (That even got skewered by other gamers.)

The second example is the “No Fat Chicks” Challenge that the gamers are engaging in.  (It’s also being promoted on Inmalafide and other gamer blogs.)  Gamers keep talking about how they’re fucking hot chicks all the time.  Why do they need a no fat chicks challenge?  Because they’re not getting laid.  Remember, gamers get laid as much as I do.  (They would get laid less than I do if I went to a hooker.)

This is the ultimate proof why game doesn’t exist.  Gamers can’t produce results unless they go to poor countries and flash money around or go after obese chicks.  And they probably can’t even get results then.

Gamers Think There Is Only One Person Who Disagrees With Them

It seems like gamers think that only one person with a million sock puppets disagrees with them.  I came to this conclusion after reading the following comment at PMAFT’s.

That “debate” was proped up by AlexNovy and Mr. 100 sockpuppets “hurr durr gamers have no self respect”. Fuck them both.

Gamers can’t admit that there are lots of guys that disagree with them so they believe it’s one person with a million sock puppets.  I have been accused of having a million sock puppets in various forms as part of gamers’ conspiracy theories against me.  I wouldn’t be surprised if “Mr. 100 sock puppets” in the above quote if a reference to me.

Where Does The Lack Of Evidence Of Game Leave Pro-Game Women?

Despite the lack of evidence and scientific experiments proving game, lots of men believe they are doing game and that game worked for them.  While we know the myriad problems with this, we can understand how it happened for gamer men.  There are women who believe in game, but since they aren’t trying to pick up or have LTRs with women, why would they believe in game?  None of the reasons apply to women.  Everything I said in my last post about evidence and scientific experiments applies triple for women so what gives?

Various women are explicitly or de facto pro-game.  This includes well known feminists like Amanda Marcotte to Susan Walsh, owner of hooking up stupid.  These women can’t be invested in game like a man is, so why are they promoting game in any form?  They are promoting game for the purpose of supporting anti-male agendas and attempting to derail the MRM.  There is no other reason for a woman to be pro-game when gamers refuse to or are physically unable to produce evidence that game exists.  If such evidence existed, then it would make sense for a woman to be pro-game.  Since such evidence does not exist, there is no legitimate reason for a heterosexual woman to be emotionally and mentally invested in strategies to pickup or have LTRs with heterosexual women.  With other cults and scams like Scientology, there are reasons for someone outside of it to end up pro-Scientology, for example.  It’s because a person outside of Scientology can be brainwashed into the cult.  In the case of game, that can’t apply to heterosexual women (because hetero women do not pickup or have LTRs with other hetero women), but only to heterosexual men outside of game.  Unlike with other cults and scams, we are very limited in the possible reasons for a heterosexual woman to be pro-game.  The only reason left for women to be pro-game is because she is using game to promote an anti-male agenda.

Some of you reading this might say something like that a pro-game woman just wants to help men improve.  That can’t be in this case because, if she was really interested in helping men, she would be very concerned about actually knowing that she is promoting something that helps men.  She would need to have evidence, and since there is no evidence for game around, those reasons aren’t possible.  The only explanations for the existence of pro-game women we are left with is that they are pursing anti-male agendas.

Even many gamers think what I have said about pro-game women in true.  Using Susan Walsh as an example, there are several gamers who think she is pursing an anti-male agenda.  Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech was banned from hooking up stupid for realizing the truth about her.  Rollo Tomassi called Susan Walsh a “false flag operation”.  Even many gamers only have the explanation of pursing an anti-male agenda for the existence of pro-game women.

Like Creationists, Gamers Want To Be Exempt From Scientific Inquiry

No one has ever proven that game exists and works.  There has never been an experiments done attempting to prove game despite the ability of the big names in game to fund such an experiment.  The only time experimental evidence gets talked about with respect to game is at places like Seduction Myth.  When it comes to using game for pickup, it’s in principle possible to do an experiment proving or disproving it.  Since it would be in the best interests of gamers to produce experimental evidence, it is telling that they have not done so.  With the pickup gamers it’s because a scientific experiment would disprove them.

With the married/LTR gamers, it’s different.  They can’t provide experimental evidence, even in principle.  When the possibility of pickup from game is taken away, there is nothing to test.  A man already has his girlfriend or wife so no pickup is possible for a married/LTR game.  Thus married/LTR game is no different than creationism.  There is no way to prove creationism.  There is no way to perform experiments to test creationism because there is no way to test divine creation of the universe or of life.  Married/LTR game has the same problem.  Once there is no possibility of pickup, there is nothing to test.

Some people have brought up men self reporting on their LTR, but that is hideously unreliable.  For example, a man could report that his LTR is going great, while his girlfriend/wife is cheating on him with his boss.  Plus, the same method could be used to prove both religion and atheism.  There’s a reason why you never see such things as part of a scientific methodology or experiment.

Since gamers can’t or refuse to produce experimental evidence of game (either because it’s impossible or because they refuse to), this means gamers are selling a scam.  If anything else was sold in this manner, it would be in violation of various laws including anti-fraud laws.

When challenged with the facts that creationism is untestable, creationists will start attacking science.    Gamers start doing the exact same thing as can be seen below.

I know what happened and I don’t give a ***** **** about “proof” or whatnot. And it is the same for Dalrock, Keoni Galt, and tons of other guys including many men I know personally.
Sometimes reality is just that: reality, and it does not need any peer reviewed evidence to be real.

Creationists want the privilege of being exempt from scientific inquiry, and so do gamers.  Nothing gets that privilege.  NOTHING.  Many things that were declared to be “reality” were proven to be wrong by science.  For example, for thousands of years, it was “reality” that heavier objects fell faster than lighter objects.  But this “reality” was proven wrong by Galileo in a scientific experiment.  This is why we need science and peer reviewed experimental evidence.  What seems to be “obvious reality” is often not actual reality.  Experiments and the process of scientific inquiry act as important check to make sure that what we think reality is corresponds to what reality actually is.

Demanding to be exempt from scientific inquiry, like the gamers are, is almost an admission that their ideas are not reality.  The only thing that game can be now is a religion (like creationism), a false religion with it’s own (very flaccid) inquisition of “heretics” that dare to disagree with game and demand evidence of game’s claims.

The First Hit Is Always Free

Just because something is given away for free does not mean a scam isn’t involved.  Many gamers like to say that Roissy or Roosh or several other gamers are giving away their knowledge for free so it can’t be a scam.  This is wrong.  Drug dealers always give away the first hit of whatever narcotic they’re selling to get you addicted.  Then they start charging you money when you’re addicted and desperate.  If you look at gamers who are selling books like Roosh or Athol Kay, they ran blogs first to get guys hooked, then they started selling books.

In the parlance of those of us who run legitimate businesses, what these gamers are doing is running a loss leader.   They’re giving away something now, for the purpose of selling game books and DVDs at full price later.  That’s all that is happening here.  Using a loss leader doesn’t make something a scam, but it does mean gamers are trying to sell something.  Since what they are selling is fraudulent, that makes what they are doing a scam.

Spocksdisciple On Game

On the MGTOW Forums and Happy Bachelors Forum, there is a man who goes by the username, Spocksdisciple.  He’s a very intelligent man, and I often learn a lot from reading his comments.  Here is a comment he made on the MGTOW Forums about game.

There is nothing to understand, the core difference between a PUA and others in the MRA/MGTOW sphere is that PUAs view f***ing women as a core definition of what it is to be a MAN. PUA’s define themselves by their pussy worship and how many notches on the bedpost they have as an affirmation of their manhood.
I’ve always found such a worldview to be lacking and weak, defining one’s self on the basis of one’s sexual prowess and the numbers you can generate is essentially validating one’s ego in a quantitative way.
You might as well define yourself by the number of steaks per week you can eat and only real MEN eat steak tartar every night!

PUAs are addicts, as has been observed elsewhere, they’re white knights/manginas with runaway hormones. The fact that PUAs disparage and denigrate other men who don’t make the same choices they make is an indication of the lack of self esteem and security many of them suffer from. Why attack the choices of other men as being wrong or weak? Not choosing women is a stronger statement of a man’s self worth then shouting out their need for a new “conquest” each and everytime some one mentions manhood.

My personal opinion, the whole PUA movement is a scam to sell self help guides, videos and seminars to hopeless manginas and white knights who are so lacking in confidence and so clued out to the nature of women that they’ll buy anything. MGTOWs have figured out the equation and are basically saying a fool and his money are soon parted, where PUA “experts” and women are concerned.  

I’m not the only person who sees game as a scam to sell books and DVDs by far.

Another Conspiracy Theory About Me…This Time On Stormfront

Normally, I wouldn’t like to Stormfront, but I have to document something I found doing a search on the previous name of this blog.  Gamers and other red pills love to accuse me of being part of a conspiracy.  As it turns out so do White Nationalists.

The Jews in charge see the MRM as benign and non-threatening and useful too. Some time ago I looked at some MRM websites, and they all had one thing in common. If you did what they said, you would be contributing to the end of the white race.

There’s an MRM blog called “Citizen Renegade” where the author who is a Jew tells white men how to “game” women for one night stands. White men who listen to Mr. Renegade will not have relationships with white women or form families meaning that the next generation of whites will be smaller. There’s another MRM blog called “Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology”. It should be called Pro-Jew/Anti-White Technology. The author there encourages men to only have children with Indian surrogate mothers in India. I also found a guy there called The Fifth Horseman, a Hindu Indian, who brags about how he tricked women into miscegenation by donating sperm to a sperm bank and claiming he was white on their paperwork. There’s also a blog called “Omega Virgin Revolt” that is about nothing but generating hate among white men for white women.

The MRM is Jew run movement for preventing white men from forming families with white women and killing off white children before they’re even conceived. If you aren’t convinced the MRM is a Jew run movement go to any MRM blog and you will find them defending the Jew Strauss-Kahn and saying that Jew is a victim.

Consider why so many people accuse me of being part of a conspiracy.  Spend some time thinking about what they are so afraid of.