Some of you out there still defend Susan Walsh. If you still defend her after reading this article, then there is something wrong with you.
I was reading PMAFT’s blog, and his latest entry was about how someone informed him what Susan Walsh said about him and me. Let’s read what was said.
Something doesn’t smell right about Mr. Tim. Why is the story of every over 30 male virgin the same? They are all successful men professionally and financially or about to be like Mr. Tim but women ignore them. Financial and professional success and success with women go together. I have never found a case where they didn’t.
I think Mr. Tim is going to be another White & Nerdy in a few months following the same trajectory White & Nerdy did. Anytime I have seen a man over 30 who says that he’s a virgin he always does things that promote the elite depopulation agenda. This is no coincidence. These over 30 male virgins are here to promote gender war which serves the elite’s depopulation agenda.
This pile of bullshit continues…
@runningman
I owe you an apology. I thought you were one of the over 30 male virgins. The so called “mens rights” movement is filled with agents of the elite promoting gender war for the purposes of depopulation. I have it on good authority that over 30 virgin males are the primary group recruited by the elite for that purpose.
Clearly, you are not a part of that, and I see that now. I misinterpreted your email, and I’m sorry.
@Susan
With more info about runningman, I see that he’s nothing like Mr. White & Nerdy. I owed him an apology, and I made that apology.
With that said, the so called “mens rights” movement was manufactured by the elite just as feminism was. Gloria Steinem worked for the CIA, and there are agents of the elite in the mens rights movement too. Both sides of the gender war are funded by the elite just as the funded both sides of various wars in history. Virgin males over 30 make excellent recruiting targets for the elite especially the angrier ones. Mr. White & Nerdy is a good example, but he is not the only one. It’s a safe bet Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech also works for the elite because he is deeply embedded in the military-industrial-security state complex. He was an over 30 virgin. Supposedly he isn’t anymore, but it doesn’t matter if he is or isn’t a virgin now.
There are others working for the elite that aren’t virgins over 30. It’s clear that The Fifth Horseman works for the elite. The elite is now obsessed with transhumanism, and The Fifth Horseman promotes a “mens rights transhumanism” which is technological gender war.
I suspect others in the mens rights movement of working for the elite but these are the only three I am certain about.
What does “elite depopulation agenda” mean? Among conspiracy theorists it’s a belief that the elite are going to at some point in the future cull the world population down half a billion or billion or somewhere around there. In other words, conspiracy theorists believe the super rich are planning the largest GENOCIDE in history. This “David Jones” who wrote this has done nothing less than accuse PMAFT, The Fifth Horseman of being a party to this. He has accused of us of helping to plan and execute GENOCIDE.
Any sane person who reads this would regard it as the bullshit of a mentally ill person. That goes triple because the idea that the super rich are recruiting guys who are virgins past 30 is beyond batcrap crazy. However, the Paleo-Game Cult and its female auxiliary (which includes Susan Walsh) are not sane.
@David Jones
That’s a pretty compelling story you’re telling there.
You read that right. Susan Walsh considers the insane idea that I’m (along with other guys who are older virgins) working with the super rich to plan and execute GENOCIDE to be COMPELLING. Susan Walsh has accused me more or less of being the equivalent of an attendee of the Wannsee Conference that led to the Holocaust. I knew that the Paleo-Game Cult was suffering from something close to paranoid schizophrenia, but I had no idea it was this bad.
PMAFT had some good commentary about Susan Walsh’s motivations in making such absurd false accusations. He also provided a link showing how conspiracy theorists were more willing than non-conspiracy theorists to be members of conspiracies. The link even said, “These studies suggest that people who have more lax personal morality may endorse conspiracy theories to a greater extent because they are, on average, more willing to participate in the conspiracies themselves.” What all of this conspiracy theory crap is in essence is a massive case of projection. Susan Walsh and the Paleo-Game Cult if given the opportunity would engage in a conspiracy to go after their percived enemies such as myself. It’s a massive case of projection. Since they’re accusing me of working to plan GENOCIDE, you can tell what their desires are.
The next question I had was who was this David Jones guy that started all this. He wrote more that tells us everything we need to know about him.
@Susan
The depopulation agenda is about reducing the human population of the world. The elite are convinced that a smaller population can be more easily controlled so they have set out to reduce the population to a number smaller than it is now. That number has been guessed to be 500 million (because of the Georgia Guidestones) or 1.2 billion or something else but the exact number isn’t relevant. What is relevant is that population reduction is happening right now.
Lots of people think the elite are going to use death camps or a plague for depopulation. That may be but with patience they can use another way by making it so we have less children and making our food supply unhealthy. Hawaiian Libertarian has done a lot of research on this and he said, “DOT – Depopulation: Corrupt the food and water supplies and propagate myths, misinformation and lies about proper human nutrition to promote degenerative diseases, early death and the creation of industries dedicated solely to profiting off of the death and misery. Promote birth control, abortion, and changing the social paradigm of marriage and family formation in young adulthood into an extended adolescence of partying, avoiding responsibility and engaging in promiscuity; all things that are now the primary features of young adulthood and the “college experience.”
DOT – Destroy the Foundation of Society: Attack the institution of the traditional nuclear family, based on the construct of Patriarchy. Use the vehicle of “social justice” to promote Feminism to kick the Father out of the home and create single mother households dependent on the nanny-welfare state, easily manipulated and controlled. Promote social chaos by throwing an entire generation into social upheaval. Subvert the family through the creation of an unconstitutional Family Court system built with the sole purpose of offering incentives and subsidies for mothers and wives to become active participants in destroying their own families, enslaving men through peonage, psychologically scarring their own children and providing an endless grist of lucrative profits for the mill of the State and all of the various components of the Divorce Industry.”
Feminism comes into play for destroying families and making sure children that would have been born aren’t. Feminism didn’t just happen. It was directed by the elite. Gloria Steinem worked for the CIA and one of the Rockefellers admitted to Aaron Russo that they started Feminism because they couldn’t tax women and get children in school earlier so that those kids could be indoctrinated.” This is why so much media tells women to be sluts. If women are slutting it up and are indocrinated to hate men because of the elite’s manufactured gender war, then they aren’t having good relationships and forming families. Then they have fewer or no children reducing the population.
The so called “mens rights” movement come into this because it’s the “mirror image of feminism” for men. It’s the male side of the elite’s manufactured gender war. If there’s one thing the “mens rights” males agree on its not getting married. That means less children. Within “mens rights” the MGTOW movement is even more extreme. They promote ghosting for men which involves avoiding women entirely. The more MGTOWs, the less children.
As Gloria Steinem and others worked for the elite in feminism, there are agents of the elite in the “mens rights” movement. Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech is deeply embedded in the military-industrial-security state complex. He has admitted this on his blog. That sounds like how Gloria Steinem worked for the CIA. He is acting under orders from his elite masters to grow the “mens rights” movement and promote gender war.
If you want to promote gender war from the male side, who would be the best group to recruit? Angry male virgins who can’t get together with women. Those males are already predisposed to work for the elite’s manufactured gender war. This is where overgrown boys like White & Nerdy come in. (Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech may have also been recruited this way. Being in the military-industrial-security state complex he probably knows more of the elite’s plans.) I know of other examples of this. A friend of mine has a brother similar to White & Nerdy. A year ago my friend’s brother started acting and talking like a “mens rights” hard liner that would be at home at the spearhead. My friend’s brother also suddenly got a lot more money at around the same time, and my friend can’t explain how that happened.
The elite are also very interested in transhumanism so that’s how I know The Fifth Horseman is involved. He might not be difficult here but each of the agents has a different job so his doesn’t involve being as hard line as White & Nerdy and Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech.
The reason why White & Nerdy and Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech have been so hard line is because a blog like yours, Susan, that promotes good relationships between men and women is a threat to the elite’s plans. The “mens rights” movement is still small so your blog can have a real effect, Susan.
Notice I did not talk about lizard people, Illuminati, Freemasons, Bohemian Grove, the occult despite the jokes of a few people here. Such things are distractions to what is really going on. Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech makes jokes like that all the time to distract from what he is really doing. Such fantasy is not a part of anything that I said.
This guy is one of Hawaiian Fat Blob’s crew. That’s no surprise. Reading this sounds like a member of the Paleo-Game Cult. The crap about virgins being recruited by the super rich to help them with “depopulation” fits in with Bardamu’s crap about how you can’t trust guys who don’t get laid. It’s just another case of how all members of the Paleo-Game Cult think the same.
I have to wonder what Susan Walsh’s malfunction is. There are a lot of feminists who are now all of a sudden pro-game. Yet, none of these feminists want anything to do with Roissyite gamers or the Paleo-Game Cult. You don’t need the Roissyites to have pro-female PUA so why is Susan Walsh involved with the Roissyites? Consider how PMAFT has been at war with Susan Walsh for a long time. He’s a gamer, but not a Roissyite gamer. He’s rejected everything about the Paleo-Game Cult from the paleo diet to conspiracy theory. In addition, he also has rejected the racism and anti-Semitism of the Roissyites. That makes him effectively the most sane gamer in this part of the internet yet Susan Walsh hates him. Beyond that, Susan Walsh has purged the more sane Roissyites like Dalrock from her blogroll leaving some of the worst Roissyites when it comes to racism, anti-Semitism, and conspiracy theory (such as Hawaiian Fat Blob who is all about conspiracy theory and veiled anti-Semitism). This is a distinct pattern that consitutes an endorsement of racism, anti-Semitism, and conspiracy theory by Susan Walsh. Is this because Susan Walsh is a racist and hates Jews or because misandry and racism is strongly linked and she has chosen the most misandrist to ally herself with? I suspect the latter but either answer is equally disturbing.
If you don’t conclude that there is something wrong with Susan Walsh from all of this, then there is something wrong with you.
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Remember when this woman was embraced by the Roissysphere? You three have said all along that her insanity is only going to deepen as time passes and the full extend of her insanity is presented.
Good call.
PMAFT is the one who really deserve the props on this. He figured out Susan Walsh before anyone else did, even me.
One thing about these conspiracies, they are all predicated…AS ALWAYS on women being the poor manipulated dupes who played no part in aborting tens of millions of unborn, climbed up the ladder seeking the apex male, and pushed extreme legal punishments on every living male.
Even if the conspiracy does exist, it is now up to men to suddenly fight the elites while women lapped the “elite plan” up like semen off an alphas cock and saying “more, please” for two generations?
No thanks.
You are so right, and have you noticed that whenever the conspirators are talked about, they are always men? Conspiracy theorists who think it’s the Jews only talk about Jewish men. Jewish women never seem to be involved Conspiracy theorists who think it’s the Rockefellers only talk about Rockefeller men, etc. Women are never accused of being a part of the conspiracy, and they are always assumed to be dupes by conspiracy theorists. It sounds like the conspiracy theorist version of, “let’s you and him fight”.
None of those people seem to understand that idea of art imitating life, with the example of The Tale of Two Cities.
Is Susan Walsh the next Madame Thérèse Defarge?
Might also want to toss in Alte and some others like her too in that group as well … their reaction to men who are virgins, are vitriolic.
Yes, and Susan Walsh is also the next Marie Antoinette if we’re using French Revolution metaphors. “Let them eat cake” = “Men should learn game.”
Alte and the rest of them should be included. It’s worse for that crew since attacking male virgins means they are in violation of their religion.
I stumbled into this post following a link from another blog and was a bit taken aback by the notion that anyone at our site has mocked chaste men.
Since I am a contributor at the blog Alte founded, I just want to jump in here and say that in the 8 months I have contributed at TC, I have never heard anyone demean male virgins or men who live chaste lives. Ever.
That would be something of a problem seeing as we worship Jesus and stuff, LOL.
What’s TC and who’s alte?
@ Alek
TC is a blog called Traditional Christianity. I understand that Alte is one of the hosts of the blog.
@Elspeth:
“Since I am a contributor at the blog Alte founded, I just want to jump in here and say that in the 8 months I have contributed at TC, I have never heard anyone demean male virgins or men who live chaste lives. Ever.”
At around that same time (Jan 2012) I wrote in to “traditional Christianity”. Please search the archives. Read Cecilia/Black&German/Alte/Vanessa’s sneering and vitriolic reaction.
I’d figure with her son (and her marriage) going to be 10 in the next 2 years, she should be very worried about the kind of girls he encounters.
@Elspeth/Terri/whoeveryouarenow:
An example of Alte,
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http://traditionalchristianity.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/are-men-sexual-hypocrites/
Alte
August 27, 2011
The difference between a “basement virgin” and a “real virgin” is that the basement virgin is sitting in front of his monitor masturbating to porn and ripping into women he normally wouldn’t have a chance with. I don’t think basement virgins are even necessarily virgins, but they are definitely mean and unchaste. It’s a mentality.
The name is something men came up with, by the way. We women used to call them “basement dwellers” or “bitter betas”, as we didn’t assume they were all virgins, but the Roissian version has caught on now. Roissy is big on virginity.
(It’s kind of funny, considering she only “discovered” Christianity just before meeting her now husband, and not being a virgin (having sex with the first guy then going 3 years without… don’t know which number hubby was).
So, Elspeth, you were saying: “I just want to jump in here and say that in the 8 months I have contributed at TC, I have never heard anyone demean male virgins or men who live chaste lives. Ever.”
You are a liar, Elspeth/Terri/whatevernameyouarenow.
They truly are becoming more and more insane the further they get sucked into their beliefs. Some serious shit’s gonna go down soon from these people.
Older male virgins selectively being hired by the elite to help with their depopulation agenda? Publicly extolling the merits of your own feces?
There’s nothing one can say to these people. They are gone.
Where can I sing up for some of that CIA gender-war money?
I don’t know, but if you find out tell me. I want some of this elite virgin money too.
Are you guys sure they’re not trolling us? I’m not kidding. I mean I was one of the first people to call this bunch insane, but I don’t think they’re THIS insane.
Are you sure this isn’t a trolling experiment on their part. They’re not THIS insane, are they?
I thought about that but the Paleo-Game Cult doesn’t have any self awareness of how they come across as mentally ill to everyone else. This would be required to come up with such a troll. Plus, this happened several months ago. Would they sit on a troll for that long?
Even if this was a troll, was Susan Walsh involved? If not, then it still shows her to be mentally ill. If yes, then the only way for her to prove that she’s sane now is to admit she was trolling us. That’s why it isn’t just a troll even if this was an attempt at trolling us.
Today I just stumbled onto some blog where they had a guy with a username “aleknovysuckshorsecock”. There’s an entire lynch mob forming around me, lol.
So yes, these guys are far worse than the general gamer cult, far, far worse. I just managed to catch up on the PMAFT thing, I didn’t have time to read all of it, I just skimmed, but I actually saw Ferdinand say that they don’t have time to “dispute the thousands of rants aleknovy makes every day”?
The funny part is except on your blog where I comment 2-3 times a day, and maybe markymark’s blog, I am outside this part of the internet for 2-3 days at a time (I run several businesses, plus a few personal projects, I barely get time to check personal email).
I may engage a gamer twice a month if they stumble on some MRA blog, or if I randomly stumble across a gamer blog. How the fuck did they get to “thousands of rants a day”? That’s an exaggeration of a factor of 10,000. I mean that’s even if they count all the non-gamers (paragon, forweg, jake, John, etc) as being “my sock puppets” it still doesn’t add up to “thousands of rants a day”.
I notice they have to invent stuff I never said like “aleknovy said he sarged with deangelo”!?!?!? Or “aleknovy tried to run a gamer blog and failed”. I never said I was a “gamer blogger”. I said I owned game websites.
I also saw Ferdinand say “Aleknovy lies all the time”, and the example he provided is when you and me were making fun of the fatsos on the paleo gallery. He says “Most were fit, but alek said most were fat”.
Holy shit, if that’s not proof that Ferdinand is one mother fucking fat fucker, I don’t know what is. He actually says that the paleo gallery we linked to was full of fit people. Holy shit wtf?
One thing though, Ray Manta
He is extremely intelligent, logical and he ripped them apart about their atkins crap. (again I don’t have time to read everything, just threw a quick skim), but Ray Manta says he just needs proof that “if aleknovy was really a gamer”.
Was that Ray just being nice to the gamers or does he find the idea of people leaving the cult incredulous? I don’t get it? Especially since there’s 7500 ex-gamers on puahate.com alone. It’s not like I’m some freak of nature. That’s like saying “I need proof Jane had been on Atkins before”
P.S.
I did love the finish, where Ray Manta asked them “So am I Alek’s sockpuppet too?” or something to that nature.
See, the beautiful thing about how insane these fruitcakes is that they drive away anyone who’s even semi-sympathetic to them, because of their paranoia.
I read several people say that they stopped following roissy when they encountered his paranoid moderating. They’re driving away a lot of people with their sock-puppeting paranoia too. Anyone who doesn’t agree with them a 100% will be driven away with paranoid accusations…
So again, I’m optimistic about the future of MRA ex-pulsing conspiracy theorists for the first time since being here.
Their paranoia is so great, they’re doing it for us. I mean see what happened. All I had to do was partake in ONE anti-game debate, and post ONE anti-game comment per MONTH and they’ve been driven insanely paranoid see “aleknovy” everywhere.
And these are supposed to be an army of uber-alphas remember. And here I am, with one comment a month, driving them to sheer insanity. I think they’re about to explode. We can finally rest. We planted the seed, their self-destruction has begun.
From today they will drive away anyone even half insane with accusations of them being either a “reptile”, “aleknovy in disguise”, “rockafeller’s son” or “blackpill”. I love seeing cults in self-destruction mode, lol.
I actually come to your blog to learn the latest on the game self-destruction process. Isn’t it ironic? Those dumb-asses think that I’m lurking behind every corner secretly plotting against them, but I don’t even have time to open their website, so I come here for an aggregated version.
Btw, the one thing I saw when I was skimming that post with the AlekNovy lynchmob, was someone saying that I was trying to build up a business selling “anti-game” which is really just rehashed game, coz I want to make money off of anti-game
The funniest thing about all this is:
-> I’ve made more money off of game than these fucks can dream of, long before these fucks had even heard of game
-> Right now I have an offline biz (B2B related) that makes more money than all these fuckers combined.
A lot of these guys paranoia and assumptions are pure projection. Since they’re all unemployed loser conspiracy theorist, they assume everyone is just as bad with money as them. The only way they can make money is trying to scam other conspiracy theorists, and that’s their basic reality in life.
P.S.
You know what’s funny? I (and most ex-gamers) can look back at our past and cringe, but we were never this fucked up. What the fuck will these guys do when they finally grow out of the cult?
How the fuck will they look back to their 2011 and early 2012 posts? I mean dude, me and my other ex-gamer friends were like 100x less insane than these guys, yet our cheeks get red in embarrassment when we think back to our community days… What will these guys do?
Man… All my annoyance at these guys just turned into compassion. I seriously feel sad for some of these guys. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of them commit suicide.
“aleknovysuckshorsecock”
Is that part of the Paleo Diet?
BP,
Thanks for the link, even if it wasn’t for complimentary reasons. Having said that, I’d like to comment on this latest Susan Walsh post.
I was not defending Mrs. Walsh; I wasn’t attacking her, either.. I merely took her divorce comment @ Dalrock’s, and I commented on it. Overall, I found her stance on divorce reasonable-more so than that of the typical woman. I did have questions and concerns, and I raised those questions and concerns. If you look at points #7 and #9, you’ll see those questions and concerns raised.
MarkyMark
I have to be fair here BP and stand up for Marky. He truly wasn’t “defending” her. He was just making sure there was no rush to judgement.
Mark was just doing what Ray Manta did for me on PMFT’s, which was to say “wait wait, are you sure”, “do you have all the facts yet?”
Alek, the problem that Mark keeps doing that even after we have been through Susan Walsh’s misandry multiple times over. Even the less deranged gamers get it about Susan Walsh now.
I don’t disagree with you on that. Obviously you *do* have enough facts by now. So yes, I agree mark is asking for evidence even way past the point where it’s reached critical mass.
What I’m saying is that he’s not “defending” her per se. He just has a higher (and maybe unreasonable) threshold of evidence he wants to see before he proclaims someone guilty. Make sense?
Alek, I hear you. I guess I just don’t understand why MM is demanding an unreasonable level of proof for Susan Walsh when he’s never demanded this level of proof for anything or anyone else. I don’t see why he’s being this way for Susan Walsh.
Actually that was the primary reason I jumped in to clarify, because I have seen him do that many times on many subjects, so the Susan Walsh subject isn’t the first one. It’s just how he operates.
I’m convinced of this now, but it does mean that MarkyMark’s opinion on Susan Walsh or many other things is useless because he clearly doesn’t bother to pay attention to anything.
Mark, I fail to see how her position is reasonable when she had to be almost forced into saying as little as she did especially when she thinks divorce for reasons other than male adultery is rare. This is consistent with a long term misandrist pattern of behavior on her part. I don’t understand why you don’t get this.
BP,
I’m not familiar with SW’s long held stance(s) on divorce, so I cannot comment on that. All I did was take her comment @ Dalrock’s, analyze it, then render some commentary. I’m not aware of where or when she said that frivolous divorce was uncommon.
Having said that, I can easily find a Discovery Health Channel article about divorce; it’s entitled “Ten Myths about Divorce”, or something similar. You can Google it. Anyway, point #10 says that women file for divorce twice as often as men do. Moreover, it says that women don’t cite adultery as a ground for divorce any more often than men do.
MarkyMark
MarkyM
Just read the myth no. 10.
They say that the greater number of female initiated divorces is *probably due* to the fact that men are more likely to be badly behaved.
The use of the word “probably” probably means that they haven’t checked their facts about the reasons why women initiate divorces. It probably means they’re making shit up.
Lol Check it:
http://hawaiianlibertarian.blogspot.com/
“Keoni Galt January 19, 2012 at 12:09 am
LOL
Apparently the blogger spam bots detected the SOPA/PIPA black out redirect script on my blog post, and they removed my blog for “malicious javascript.”
5 years of blogging….gone, just like that.
LOZLZOLZOZOL”
Has he blamed the processed foods industry or Rockafeller yet?
I’m sure I’m at the top of his list of people to blame. If not I will be severely dissapointed.
Hawaiian Fat Blob’s list of “suspects” must be really long. Besides me, there’s the Rockefellers, the processed food industry, the California Walnut Comission, poultry producers, the sunscreen industry, Glenn Sacks, the American Medical Association, and a lot of other things I can’t think of right now…lol.
Conspiracy theories on how and why his blog was taken down will start in 3..2..1..
Part of me hopes that his blog will come up because its such a good source for material about how insane the Paleo-Game Cult is.
This blog will never disappear like that because I am eternal.
From my experience with gamers I think I can predict something. You see, one of the reasons that gamer keyboard jockeys stay in the cult for so long is because they had invested too much in the cult to just quit.
You spent years building up this persona around the magic of game, and it’s hard to just come out and say “hey you know what, I was really a naive sucker”.
What I often witnessed is people using excuses to leave the game community so they don’t have to publicly admit how dumb they were. If a server crush happens, they use that as an excuse to not go on, if their neighbors dog gets in a car accident, they use that as an excuse.
You see one of the problems with being a roissy or a Hawaiian blob is that you just can’t quit because you had this thing built up. Even if you start noticing the bullshit and you yourself are starting to have doubts, you can’t express them because your entire persona in front of tens of thousands of people was built on the notion that you are never wrong and the bringer of ultimate truth ism.
Trust me, these guys struggle on a daily basis whether to go on living the lie. That is why roissy shut down the blog then relaunched it as heartiste. It’s like a drug, it’s an addiction having a legion of men feeing you narcissistic supply. So they’re struggling-I actually think roissy no longer believes in half the bullshit he says, but he… Has to go on, he’s stuck.
It is entirely possible libertarian blob might use this as an excuse to disappear. He might go re-examine everything he believes for a few years and try to find out why he’s still fat, unemployed and celibate despite having sold religions on mastering those 3 things.
I’m sure it will be back up in a couple hours or something. But I guarantee the chorus of “google is censoring blogspot” will be everywhere within 24 hours.
ybm
Yours is the more likely outcome, I’m just saying that these guys are in pain and often struggling with their identity. Often their self is looking for a way out of the mess they made for themselves and sometimes they grab that chance to “escape from it all”….
Hawaiian Fat Blob’s blog is back up, and it looks like he isn’t going to use this as an opportunity to stop. He’s going to go deeper, and from one of his previous posts I suspect he will end up in alcoholism.
WN that’s the only place guys like him and roissy can go.
If they don’t escape in time, they will end up alcoholics or maybe even attempt suicide like mystery did.
Mystery attempted suicide? I had no idea, but I can’t say I’m surprised. It’s clear that he can’t do any pickup if you watch that video of him. With his identity completely wrapped up in game, eventually reality comes crashing down on him with alcohol, drugs, or suicide being the likely next steps.
Just playing amateur psychologist on Mystery. All I know of him is Strauss’s book, The Game. It seems both him and his father were pretty fucked in the head so he either learned / inherited such behaviour from his father … (?)
I guess I’m saying that the obsession of this dude seems like a symptom of something wrong with him on a deeper level. If it wasn’t game it likely would have been something else.
Just googled the Mystery suicide thing.
It’s referred to in The Game. He’s about to down a bunch of pills but Neil Strauss prevents him from doing so. My quick search didn’t yield anything else. So seems it was more of a cry-for-help scenario than a genuine suicide attempt…
…unless there’s something since that I don’t know of.
I’ve met many of the famous gurus, and a surprising number of them are alcoholics. I mean to the point where they can’t even enter a club before intoxicating themselves to the point of slurred speech.
(p.s. some fucking retard will read this and misquote me again and say I’ve “claimed to sarge with deangelo & mystery” -> That’s bullshit, I’ve never personally met the first-class gurus (ns, deangelo, mystery), but I’ve met and worked with a ton of their associates and peoplesecond in lie, and a ton of gurus of the second and third-tier ones (those on roosh’s level). I did have a membership on mystery’s private forum back when nobody had even heard of this crap though. I’ve never met one of the first-tier scamers in real life though)
That said, yes, a ton of gurus are alcoholics, and I can personally vouch this for a lot of the second and third-tier ones. Most often anyone mentioning this on a pua forum, even as a side issue (not even as a criticism) will get their post deleted and banned. You’re not even allowed to mention that the guy who did your bootcamp drank any alcohol. They’re hyper-sensitive about that shit, since a lot of their folks are massive alcoholics.
The only place where you can read accounts on this is on the puahate.com forums…
I had no idea it was this bad. The more I learn about gamers, the more I find it absurd that anyone takes them seriously.
The reason for this is that the people who believe game the hardest are the people who have the least EXPERIENTIAL involvement with it.
The people who leave the game the fastest are the ones who apply it the hardest and meet the most gurus.
The people you see who are the most dogmatic about game – most of them don’t even leave their house – they’re literally hermits.
The few of them who do apply it somewhat – are living in a fantasy world where they think they’re working TOWARD this idealized mythical state like (whatever guru they happen to follow).
BUT THEY HAVE NEVER MET ANY OF THE GURUS like whom they are trying to become. It’s an idealized image they hold in their head. If (for example) Roosh’s followers or Roissy’s fanboys ever had the ability to live alongside Roissy or Roosh for a month, I’d say about 99% of them would stop following him.
Some would just change guru, but a lot would drop game completely.
This is why many of the guys that believe game the hardest are the LTR gamers. Since they don’t even try to do any pickup (because they aren’t cheating on their wives), they don’t actually do anything with game and have no actual experience with game.
I have noticed this with the Roissyite gamers. None of them have any hobbies. Everything they do revolves around game (which means posting BS on the internet), the paleo diet (which means posting BS on the internet), and conspiracy theory (which means posting BS on the internet). Unless they have jobs, which many of them don’t, it’s obvious they never get out of the house.
The fact that they have no dealings with the outside world explains a lot.
Hey BP, can you delete my previous comment, and leave this one on. It was a complete mess since I wrote it on the cellphone. I’m posting a better edited version below:
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I think that’s another reason they had to come up with that theory of the hundreds of sockpuppets for you and then later for me.
Like right now I will post one unedited rant on my blog every 3-4 days, and that’s the most I can manage… Like I literally feel bad about how much time I spend on this stuff right now (it’s the highest I’ve ever been).
But I look at my output (2 unedited rants a week and daily commenting here and on sedmyth) and I actually have 10times less output than the average gamer.
It’s simply impossible to do more and still have a life. Like even at this rate, I’m really stretched for time and barely squeeze in my business and my social life and the 2-3 weekly rants. And I type at world speed records and I don’t even edit my blog rants.
How is it possible then for gamers to have ten times the output that I or you have, and then they still have a life? That’s theoretically impossible, even if they never slept.
I think because they post hundreds of pieces of BS a day, they can’t imagine anyone else doing less.
Their logic for you BlackPill probably goes something like this:
- BP posts 2 posts a week and 4 comments a day
- I the mega alpha gamer do 10 times that
- BP is a super beta, and as we all know alphas have richer lives than betas, therefore BlackPill must be posting 10 times more under fake accounts.
I think their “lowly beta opponents” being on the Internet 10 times less causes them some sort of cognitive dissonance to their whole super-duper mega alpha self-image.
Like that fucking retard Ferdinand said I post “thousands of rants a day” lol. I’ve been to his idiotic site a MERE DOZEN times over the past 2 YEARS ALTOGETHER, and I will stumble and comment on a gamer blog like once a MONTH, but somehow they see me “everywhere”… even despite there being THOUSANDS of comments by other people before my ONE quick-hit set of comments, yet they still remember me all month?
How the fuck did I have such a big impact? I don’t get it. I did just one ACTIVE fight against them (the frost debate) where we fought with hundreds of comments over a whole week.
Both since and before that debate, I’ve only seen and commented on their sites or blogs at most once a month. That means their sites gets tens of thousands of comments before they get one set of my quick-hit comments.
But somehow they manage to see me “everywhere”? That’s seriously creepy and scary. Was I that effective? They have 10,000 comments of their own, and one of mine, and they think about me all month, they’re even dedicating entire posts to me. Maybe the victory during the Frost debate was much bigger than I had realized…
It’s seriously creepy. Or is it because they’re such an echo chamber that a single voice to the contraire gets etched into their mind as such vile foul that they harp on it for a whole month, despite the thousands of echoes, echoing their own thoughts?
I mean you saw what happened at PMAFT’s. I visit that blog once in 2 months on average*… Posted ONE set of comments calling out a single gamer’s bullshit and all hell broke loose. How the fuck can these cunts be so fucking sensitive. I’d like to take credit and say I am that amazing and influential, but I’m simply not. How can a single guy posting one comment a month in their echo-chambers cause massive earthquakes and dedicated post-series?
Again, either the Frost-debate had a massive impact (so this is lasting earthquake trembles, to where the single comment reminds them of the massive frost-time defeat)… or they literally are upset by a single comment of disagreement among tens-of-thousands of echoes? It’s just amazing in both cases…
*-> P.S PMAFT is amazing, I don’t visit him more often because I don’t have time, not because he’s not good. I come to your blog only coz you’re a great aggregator, and I can’t afford more.
Done.
It’s the same with me. It’s a strain for me to post as much as I do. I try to maintain a minimum posting threshold so that I don’t lose viewers, but even that’s a struggle with the rest of my life.
For that matter, it’s impossible for the gamers to maintain their output if they were gainfully employed.
I think that’s it. The Roissyite gamers aren’t used to be seriously challenged. I have noticed that a lot of MRAs declare themselves “neutral” when it comes to game. Even if those MRAs disagree with game, they don’t think it’s an important enough issue to fight for. Many other MRAs just don’t bother with the gamers. If it weren’t for the fact that the Roissyite gamers are a part of the Misandrist Dating Advice Distraction, we wouldn’t care about what they’re doing either. All of this adds up to the Roissyite gamer echo chamber being isolated from reality since MRAs in general aren’t doing anything to change that. When someone like you comes in from the real world and shatters their shared delusion, they can’t deal with it.
The Roissyite gamers also seem to need a devil. For a while it was me. Now, it’s you.
Here’s an interesting story of some PUA alcoholics that got drunk and then got into a physical fight with their clients.
http://aaronsleazy.blogspot.com/2010/08/bad-bootcamp-led-to-physical-attack-by.html?m=1
Never mind, I just finished reading it.
The pua client didn’t get assaulted by his drunk PUA instructors, they merely ripped him off and flaked on him… He actually got assaulted by the PUA manager who may or may not have been sober (not mentioned).
Not that it’s much better or less insane, just clarifying for the sake of setting things straight.
IMO, that’s still as bad. People who run businesses that sell legitimate products (like myself) typically don’t end up doing this sort of thing. It’s obvious why.
Waiiiit what? You don’t get drunk and then beat up your customers?!?
You’re soo beta too. In fact, I bet you’re so beta you don’t even rip off your customers. You do beta shit like providing a good product that works.
Yes, I’m am that beta. In fact, I’m a bigger beta than that because I believe in my business beyond money it generates. The computer vision software I generate helps change the world and advance the state of the art in computer vision. I believe in my work. All of that is hugely beta.
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“Something doesn’t smell right about Mr. Tim. Why is the story of every over 30 male virgin the same? They are all successful men professionally and financially or about to be like Mr. Tim but women ignore them. Financial and professional success and success with women go together. I have never found a case where they didn’t.”
Most women are only in relationships with men they are morally superior to.
Most women are only in relationships where they can leave without being branded as the problem in the relationship.
Most women are only in relationships with a guy that is good enough to exploit, but not good enough to be honest with.
Most women are only in relationships where they are able to claim license to misbehave in the relationship.
” Financial and professional success and success with women go together. I have never found a case where they didn’t.”
You lived in the same era as Ted Bundy, and never heard of him? There’s your case that you “never found”.
The underpopulation crisis the CTs mention are real. Birth rates have been plummeting and they continue to do so. No one knows why. It’s illogical of them to blame it on the “elites” when these said elitists will also suffer.
True. There are potential explanations that aren’t conspiracies: chemical by-products that mimic estrogen and lower fertility in men, people focusing on career instead of family, etc.
The most likely explination is that men are sick and tired of women’s shit.
And we all know why that is happening: the Freemasons and the Bilderberg Group manipulating society!
Indeed Mr.Peterman. If only the Reptile aliens weren’t using mind-control to make men angry, they would willingly accept alimony adn child support theft, cuckolding, and a sexist legal system.
GET OFF MY PLANET REPTILE ALIENS I KNOW YOU ARE READING THIS.
Those are a few things, yes. Sterility could be one thing. I don’t understand why the CTs focus on things that are actually happening: like the abuse suffered in countries with high fertility due to this myth of overpopulation. In that case, there are population control methods, but those are outright said and there is no conspiracy. They have been documented: China’s one child policy is just one. Of course the CTs quip the Rockefellers are funding it or it’s part of a one world government.
Again, the CTs are backwards. You can’t control people if they’re rapidly dying off. People will notice and revolt.
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