The 90s Called. They Want Their Conspiracy Theory Back

Back during the 90s there were popular conspiracy theories around black helicopters.  This conspiracy theory was so silly that it became a term synonymous with conspiracy theorist absurdity and is used to ridicule conspiracy theorists.  Black helicopters is a conspiracy theory that most conspiracy theorists don’t believe in anymore and haven’t believed in for over a decade.  That’s how silly it is, yet that didn’t stop The Spearhead from resurrecting the black helicopters conspiracy theory.  (And the article was written by Bill Price, not Hawaiian Fat Blob like you might expect.)  That article even has several comments from nutjobs who say they have seen black helicopters.

The so called manosphere is a cesspool of conspiracy theory, but this is a new low even for them.  However, I am not surprised.  The so called manosphere doesn’t just pick ideas that are wrong.  They end up believing in the most insane variant of those wrong ideas.  This happens with game, for example.  Nearly all non-Roissyite gamers are just guys trying to get laid.  While these guys are wrong to believe in game, they don’t share the insanity of the Roissyite gamers.  These non-Roissyite gamers don’t believe in conspiracy theory, white supremacism, etc.  The so called manosphere is in the most extreme insane fringe of game.  The same thing happened with conspiracy theory as we see with the so called manosphere’s belief in the black helicopters conspiracy theory.  While all conspiracy theorists are insane, the so called manosphere makes regular conspiracy theorists look sane.

It’s not enough for the so called manosphere to believe in conspiracy theory.  They have to dredge up the most discredited and silly conspiracy theories out there (just like how they have dredged up phrenology which was discredited a century ago and is among the most insane portions of pseudoscience).

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35 responses to “The 90s Called. They Want Their Conspiracy Theory Back

  1. The shape of your skull does indeed indicate that you’ve got a congenital birth defect,luckily this can be corrected with surgery.
    Perhaps an inbeded microprocessor hooked to a cell tower would keep those aberrant thoughts in order.

  2. The only thing this post of yours signifies is the quality of your reading selection. It surprises me that someone occasionally so astute in his observations can be so determined to advertise his lack of discernment.

  3. On a side note, a while back I left this comment talking about this guy Matt Forney who was so obviously trolling for controversy with a “satire” blog post that was a manual on how to rape women:

    http://omegavirginrevolt.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/the-so-called-manosphere-is-the-c-team-thats-c-as-in-cuckold/#comment-8630

    Well of course, he finally got the controversy he wanted, and immediately folded like a deck of cards, and started whining all over twitter like he was a victim or anti-male or anti-free speech forces or feminists or something. Even the hacking collective Anonymous threatened to target him:

    http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-20997.html

    He eventually issues an apology and retraction on his site:

    http://mattforney.com/2013/02/22/official-apology-for-my-how-to-rape-women-and-get-away-with-it-article/

    I can’t get over how idiotic it all is. He blogs under his real name, and he does a piece of lame “satire” of false rape accusers, a very valid concern for men. By addressing it in such a troll-y and offensive manner, he catered to the worst stereotypes of men’s right types and ruined the chances for legitimate discussion about false rapes. Then he acts shocked and victimlike when people mention backlash against his family for his stupid post. He blogs under his real name! What does he expect?!

    Most of the tweets and threats he got have been deleted off of twitter, but it was pretty embarrassing. The manosphere has no interest in real world results, just trolling for drama and self-created controversy, then acting like they’re victims of conspiracies.

    • The manosphere has no interest in real world results, just trolling for drama and self-created controversy, then acting like they’re victims of conspiracies.

      I have said before that the so called manosphere is the ultimate cargo cult.

      What Matt Forney did is the equivalent of punching a grizzly bear and acting surprised and like he’s a victim of a conspiracy when the grizzly bear mauled him in response.

      • I really think that blogs might have outlived their usefulness for MRAs. The legitimate concerns about legal issues were overshadowed by people like the prolific manosphere commentator “Keyster” who in every comment section from Heartiste to Dalrock to even AVfM is spewing his garbage about “democrats” and “leftists” and all this other garbage.

        The blogs have degenerated into an echo chamber of progressively more extreme hypermasculinity. The legal reformists really have no need of blogger comment sections any longer.

        • “garbage about “democrats” and “leftists”….legal reformists really have no need of blogger comment sections any longer”

          Not to defend the idiocy that goes on at these PUA/game sites neurotypical, white-knighting alpha morons go to, but dismissing conservative viewpoints altogether isn’t likely to do anything in the way of meaningful reform considering the present pro-alpha/feminazi HELL America(and probably the whole developed world) is in right now & has been in for the past 40+ years is, without question, the handywork of the left, and if you need examples, Youtube Saturday Night Live, Rachel Maddow, The View, Oprah….hell, most tv/movies PERIOD, and see the misandry.

          The gamers/PUAs and feminists are both complicit in, and chief instigators of, misandry(our biggest problem, by FAR), I’ll certainly agree, and always have agreed.

        • but dismissing conservative viewpoints altogether isn’t likely to do anything in the way of meaningful reform considering the present pro-alpha/feminazi HELL America(and probably the whole developed world) is in right now & has been in for the past 40+ years is, without question, the handywork of the left, and if you need examples, Youtube Saturday Night Live, Rachel Maddow, The View, Oprah….hell, most tv/movies PERIOD, and see the misandry.

          While I’m sympathetic to this view to a point, there is a real problem with conservatives being feminist. I have noticed that when MRAs go after conservatives it’s never about fiscal/economic conservatism. That’s because the problem is really with social conservatism. The MRA critique of social conservatism is very valid because social conservatives are all talk when it comes to fighting feminism. I have been dealing with feminism my entire life, and social conservatives were never around when real action is needed to fight feminism. Social conservatives are never around when men are dealing with false sexual harassment charges, the feminist divorce system, false rape charges, and all the other ways feminism oppresses men.

          It gets even worse. Social conservatives use bullshit arguments to justify their lack of action to fight feminism such as “fighting feminism would involve collaborating with liberalism”. They have no interest in fighting feminism. Social conservative opposition to feminism must be about not wanting to be hairy lesbians and nothing else.

          Why are social conservatives so unwilling to oppose feminism? It’s because women are involved. Feminism is an ideology created by women for the benefit of women. Feminism benefits social conservative women just as much as it benefits liberal women. The only difference between the two groups of women is that social conservative women don’t want to be hairy lesbians. Feminism may have started on the left, but where ever women go, there will be feminism so social conservatism is now feminist.

        • “the present pro-alpha/feminazi HELL America(and probably the whole developed world) is in right now & has been in for the past 40+ years is, without question, the handywork of the left”

          It can absolutely be questioned as your ERA was defeated by your right wing, among them known John Birch Society member Phyllis Shafley.

          In fact I would argue that the majority of the misandric laws in your country are at their root, a product of the misplaced anglo-saxon chivalry promoted by your conservative right-wing. Alimony, Rape-Hysteria, VAWA, IMBRA, just a small sample of legislation designed to protect the “wimminfolk” from the big bad men.

        • The blogs have degenerated into an echo chamber of progressively more extreme hypermasculinity. The legal reformists really have no need of blogger comment sections any longer.

          This is too true. Real work is being done to advance mens rights, but it’s slow and boring. It doesn’t make for good blog articles on a regular basis.

        • “your ERA was defeated by your right wing”

          Not my era & not my “right wing”; I live in the present(I’m 39) and my viewpoints are mine, courtesy of a lifetime of misandry personally & unjustly directed at me by sanctimonious, neurotypical, elitist, neanderthalic, white trash, loud-mouthed left tards.

          “In fact I would argue that the majority of the misandric laws in your country are at their root, a product of the misplaced anglo-saxon chivalry promoted by your conservative right-wing.”

          Even if I accept that(which I have no problem doing if it were true), then why in the hell has your left(back at you, ha ha, neener neener) not only never done anything of note to solve these issues but, if anything, given their full-fledged undying support to the laws/societal groupthink supporting the misandry? Why aren’t the people/shows I previously mentioned ever seen mocking or even making mention of misandry but rather displaying it on an almost constant basis if the “majority” of misandrist groupthink is conservative like you so naively proclaim as fact, because I can tell you right now, if it WERE mostly a conservative thing, the left(at least here in the US) would be crucifying it to NO end, just like they crucify anything that isn’t a part of their “team”(liberals and democrats).

          “Alimony, Rape-Hysteria, VAWA, IMBRA”

          You’re trying to say these don’t have(and haven’t had) the full, unabashed, undying support of leftist politicians, lawyers, judges, activists, lobbyists, media, Hollywood, all other leftist establishments? What about “anglo saxons” on the left such as Al Gore or Hitlery KKKlinton(if you want to blame this all on white people)?

          Do you really think anyone of “the left” in “my country” really gives a flying fuck about me, an “evil white male” with Aspergers(ASD), the official Evil White Male Disease? That’s rhetorrical, and btw, a big fat fucking NO.

      • “Social conservatives use bullshit arguments to justify their lack of action to fight feminism such as “fighting feminism would involve collaborating with liberalism”.”

        That I agree is a completely stupid and seperatist mindset. I can see after trying, then failing, and coming to that conclusion, but to not even try….

        “Why are social conservatives so unwilling to oppose feminism? It’s because women are involved….Feminism may have started on the left, but where ever women go, there will be feminism so social conservatism is now feminist.”

        I completely agree that women in general, ideology notwithstanding, are the problem, and I never assumed modern-day socially conservative WOMEN were any less misandrist than their dyke/slut counterparts, but that certainly does not nullify all conservative-leaning MEN(certainly not all secular conservatives like myself(I’m agnostic)).

        • Men are as much the problem as women are, really. It was the men who gave into the demands of the feminists, it was men who gave women the vote, it was men who changed the divorce laws, it was men who legalized abortion, it was men who enacted Title IX, VAWA, etc. Men. Yes, of course women were egging them on and nagging them every step of the way, but men are “in deep” when it comes to feminism, and not just left-wing men. it’s true that the left is the “engine” and the “source”, but the problem with contemporary conservatism is that it offers no real alternative on these issues — it’s basically de facto feminism with opposition to taxes, abortion and gays. The reason for that is that conservatism is not the engine, it’s the follower party — they try to slow down the pace of change, but they don’t direct it, so yesterday’s changes become tomorrow’s status quo which the conservatives internalize and then defend. There was a lot of conservative opposition to radical feminism in the 1960s and 1970s — but they lost, roundly, because the culture at large basically thought feminism was a good thing –> as long as you’re not telling me to be a lesbian, that is. So the conservatives lost that cultural fight, feminism won, and a generation later the conservatives were almost all raising their daughters in de facto feminist ways (focusing on career, education, financial independence, athleticism and empowerment) with a nod to being “conservative” because they don’t like taxes or abortion or gays. On everything else, they’re de facto feminist in every way. And, again, it’s not just the women, it’s the men — it’s their fathers and uncles and pastors and so on who encouraged this and raised the women this way — they want this for their daughters. They no longer see that as “feminist”, they see it as “normal” and “feminist” is reserved for foaming at the mouth man hating lunatics like Andrea Dworkin. The right is now just as feminist as the left is, de facto — it’s just not nearly as radical in its feminism. It’s the more comfy, homey, day-to-day de facto feminism we see everywhere around us.

          That’s why social conservatives — not the ideologues in the “orthosphere” on the internet, but your typical garden variety social conservative in the real world — do not oppose feminism. They WANT these things for their *daughters* — and that’s everything from the divorce laws favoring their daughters, to VAWA, to AA, to Title IX, to the whole shebang. It favors their daughters and they like that, and to the extent it may damage their sons, the attitude is generally “bah, that only happens to bad guys, and my sons are not bad guys, so they’ll be fine”. A frivorce or two later and things are not fine, but by then the damage is done in terms of how a generation was raised, and the next generation is being raised the same way.

          If we’re honest, most of the energy around men’s rights activism comes from guys who have been adversely impacted by some of these laws — particularly the family law and related laws in the context of divorces that went south for them. That’s Glenn Sacks and the guys at F&F, it’s Baskerville, it’s in general what tends to light the fire and wake people up, because before something like that happens, most guys just assume that the system is fine and a guy who gets raped in divorce probably did something to deserve it. Until it happens to him. That’s fine, but what it means is that most people — including almost all social conservatives — are not going to get very interested in it, even if they are not ideologically opposed to it like the orthosphere people are, because they just think it’s a bunch of biter divorced guys who probably had it coming to them anyway, and why wouldn’t I want these laws in place just in case my precious darling Muffy needs to use them at some point?

          That’s the problem.

          So, yes, the left is a bigger problem in terms of being the driver, but the right initially lost the battle to feminism in the culture, and then simply internalized almost all of feminism into its new status quo (again, sans abortion, lesbian separatism and the like). It’s not even a battle the right is able to fight any longer, because the right is now just as feminist, in a de facto way, as the left is.

        • Men are as much the problem as women are, really. It was the men who gave into the demands of the feminists

          That’s borderline apex fallacy, but we talk about manginas plenty here.

          not the ideologues in the “orthosphere” on the internet

          This sounds like “no true scotsman” because the “orthosphere” are some of the worst offenders of what I was talking about. There’s this blog called Oz Conservative, and the author of that blog has this thing called “autonomy theory” which avoids any actual substantive criticism of feminism and actual action against feminism. On top of that it’s so convoluted that it abuses the English language by constantly redefining common terms. It’s so bad that I suspect I’m being scammed when reading it because scams thrive on confusion.

          That’s the problem.

          It’s a problem, but it has a built in solution. Just wait 10 or 20 years when the current crop of boys who been oppressed by feminism their entire lives grow up and become extremely angry. It will be easy to harness them into an anti-feminist army. They will probably do it themselves without any direction whatsoever. Of course, once they’re done with the feminists, they probably will go after social conservatives or ortho conservatives or whatever they call themselves this week because to them social conservatives will look like collaborators with feminism.

        • “Men are as much the problem as women are, really. It was the men who gave into the demands of the feminists, it was men who gave women the vote, it was men who changed the divorce laws, it was men who legalized abortion, it was men who enacted Title IX, VAWA, etc. Men.”

          Well no shit, sherlock; why do you think I made mention of the term WHITE KNIGHT in my first reply up there to “ybm”? I know what the fuck is going on; I’ve LIVED it(I’m 39 YEARS old), only I’m a chronic “Aspie”, so I didn’t get to “fall in love”/get married/have little alpha brats….you know, the typical nice little Hollywood-stereotypified, white picket fenced, sunshine-&-roses, suburban modern Amerijoke experience that all the “better” men than I were conned into(hey, sorry that didn’t work out for 66% of them(if ONLY counting divorces)….no really, they are getting royally fucked over, you don’t have to tell ME).

          “the problem with contemporary conservatism is that it offers no real alternative on these issues — it’s basically de facto feminism with opposition to taxes, abortion and gays. The reason for that is that conservatism is not the engine, it’s the follower party — they try to slow down the pace of change, but they don’t direct it, so yesterday’s changes become tomorrow’s status quo which the conservatives internalize and then defend.”

          All great points, but, you see, I don’t believe in CONTEMPORARY conservatism. I’m truly aware, in fact, that I likely have never experienced REAL conservatism in my lifetime, but I know what it is, and it’s not this wimpy shit you describe….and you’re right, “they”(“Neo Cons” or whatever you want to call them) don’t direct “fuck all”(to borrow a British saying); they don’t have SHIT for power, and they don’t deserve to have power….frankly I could have done without the last 2 Republicrat presidents(son and pops) for all the “good” they did, taking white-knightery to the extreme with all their “kinder, gentler” & “reaching across to the other(feminazi) side” bullshit.

          “There was a lot of conservative opposition to radical feminism in the 1960s and 1970s — but they lost, roundly, because the culture at large basically thought feminism was a good thing –> as long as you’re not telling me to be a lesbian, that is.”

          They(true conservatives of the time) lost because “The Culture”(lol) of the ’60s & ’70s, comprised nearly 50% of neurotypical drug/alcohol-abusing, alpha-boy, white-knighting, passive, mangina DUMB ASSES, allowed the dyke/slut gold-diggers to “get their way”, aka FEMINAZI-ISM. Thank you for the(unneeded) history lesson, unneeded because of the constant media-driven “look how wonnnnnnderfulllllll the hippies were”, self-serving, Generation W mangina, “baby boomer” dogma, ie BULLSHIT, constantly shoved in my face during my entire existence.

          “So the conservatives lost that cultural fight, feminism won, and a generation later the conservatives were almost all raising their daughters in de facto feminist ways (focusing on career, education, financial independence, athleticism and empowerment) with a nod to being “conservative” because they don’t like taxes or abortion or gays. On everything else, they’re de facto feminist in every way.”

          Yes, welcome to the 1980s(I was “there”).

          “And, again, it’s not just the women, it’s the men — it’s their fathers and uncles and pastors and so on who encouraged this and raised the women this way — they want this for their daughters. They no longer see that as “feminist”, they see it as “normal” and “feminist” is reserved for foaming at the mouth man hating lunatics like Andrea Dworkin.”

          White knighters in the church is nothing new, which is why(maybe you missed it) I described myself as a SECULAR(ie I DON’T do church/bible) conservative. I believe in some of the PRINCIPLES of traditional conservatism, such as reforming our ridiculous, white-knighting, male-hating legal system for the benefit of all men(yes, even me).

          “The right is now just as feminist as the left is, de facto — it’s just not nearly as radical in its feminism. It’s the more comfy, homey, day-to-day de facto feminism we see everywhere around us.”

          Duh….they’ve merged to re-elect President Homeboy, the perfect amalgamation to serve the neurotypical(ie SHEEPLE) mangina alpha boys/slut girls/queers n’ lesbos all across “Murikuh”….

          “That’s why social conservatives — not the ideologues in the “orthosphere” on the internet, but your typical garden variety social conservative in the real world — do not oppose feminism. They WANT these things for their *daughters* — and that’s everything from the divorce laws favoring their daughters, to VAWA, to AA, to Title IX, to the whole shebang. It favors their daughters and they like that, and to the extent it may damage their sons, the attitude is generally “bah, that only happens to bad guys, and my sons are not bad guys, so they’ll be fine”. A frivorce or two later and things are not fine, but by then the damage is done in terms of how a generation was raised, and the next generation is being raised the same way.”

          I looked up “orthosphere”….again, I’m SECULAR(agnostic if anything). From age 8 I discerned the sick society I was living in and I decided I wouldn’t be married with kids. My neurotypical older sister had 2 sons(no daughters), so I haven’t personally been witness to the sickening level of ultra appeasement of little-girl tyrants that I’m sure takes place in your typical, modern-day, 21st Century AmeriCUNT “household” where dumbass neurotypical alpha/beta(third wheel) dads will give the wife/daughter(s) every undeserved thing you can possibly imagine to avoid(or TRY to avoid) getting raped in divorce court, etc….that’s your wonderful, again, neurotypical, modern sheep appeasement society for you….

          “If we’re honest, most of the energy around men’s rights activism comes from guys who have been adversely impacted by some of these laws — particularly the family law and related laws in the context of divorces that went south for them. That’s Glenn Sacks and the guys at F&F, it’s Baskerville, it’s in general what tends to light the fire and wake people up, because before something like that happens, most guys just assume that the system is fine and a guy who gets raped in divorce probably did something to deserve it. Until it happens to him. That’s fine, but what it means is that most people — including almost all social conservatives — are not going to get very interested in it, even if they are not ideologically opposed to it like the orthosphere people are, because they just think it’s a bunch of biter divorced guys who probably had it coming to them anyway, and why wouldn’t I want these laws in place just in case my precious darling Muffy needs to use them at some point? That’s the problem.”

          I’m sorry, again, they had to discover(the hard way) that most women are gold-digging, sociopathic, non-committing scum. Yes, they can thank their neurotypical(like them) Republicrat and Demoblican politicians. Some of them, no doubt, “deserved it”, some didn’t. I’m most certainly not opposed to their efforts so long as those efforts help ALL men(myself included) and aren’t merely in the self-serving interests of neorotypical virgin-shaming/”Aspie”-shaming alpha-boys who “played” & got burned because they thought they were just oh so gosh darn “L33T” & above “viiiiiiiiiirgin l0serZ” like me, because those people can go straight to the 9th circle of hell for all I care. I found this blog last May, originally titled the OMEGA VIRGIN Revolt, because I finally got ultra fed up with neurotypical alphagina society, media and internet tough people constantly shitting on my life as a middle aged virgin with then-undiagnosed Aspergers(ASD), not because I wanted to fuck some garden-variety, glorified WHORE AmeriCUNT(I DON’T), but because I just wanted to be LEFT ALONE and NOT BE PERSECUTED by them, and so I found this blog(among other blogs pertaining to & sympathetic to my situation) last May.

          “So, yes, the left is a bigger problem in terms of being the driver, but the right initially lost the battle to feminism in the culture, and then simply internalized almost all of feminism into its new status quo (again, sans abortion, lesbian separatism and the like). It’s not even a battle the right is able to fight any longer, because the right is now just as feminist, in a de facto way, as the left is.”

          The neurotypical alphaland is divided over queers, guns, abortions & other such media-driven, divisive nonsense while their “Muricuuuuh” gets flushed down the toilet(and deservedly so).

          Well, I’ll get the fuck out of the way & let the neurotypical GENIUNE, BONA FIDE people of this blog(**cough** ybm **cough**) get down to the SERIOUS FUCKING LEGAL BUSINESS of saving burned neurotypical Alpha Supermen “playas” everywhere….don’t mind this old white-boy “Assburger” with the ugly, pukey-orange avatar and his “distracting”, silly-assed, “outdated”, Generation X “Aspie” opinions(lol)….whatever, man. :)

        • Novaseeker: “the right initially lost the battle to feminism in the culture, and then simply internalized almost all of feminism into its new status quo”

          Anyone who thinks “the right”(the true right & not the neocons) has any “status” in America in this century is just fucktarded. I’m done being polite(done period).

      • “when the current crop of boys who been oppressed by feminism their entire lives grow up and become extremely angry….once they’re done with the feminists, they probably will go after social conservatives or ortho conservatives or whatever they call themselves this week because to them social conservatives will look like collaborators with feminism.”

        Given the dysgenic effects of selective neurotypical breeding by post-sexual revolution Ameriskanks, I’m highly doubtful such a future “revolution” by the “current crop of boys” wouldn’t be directed at exactly the wrong people(i.e. people like me), and with the full-fledged support of feminists, of course.

  4. I hate to burst your bubble, but – I saw a black helicopter yesterday. It was being piloted by a dog in a ballerina skirt with a party whistle in its mouth.

    (that was a joke)

  5. For what it’s worth…

    Here’s GL Piggy’s blog roll…

    GLP Approved

    Bronan
    Captain Capitalism
    Dalrock
    Dennis Mangan
    Econ Log
    Elusive Wapiti
    Foseti
    Hawaiian Libertarian
    HBD Bibliography
    Heartiste
    Lion of the Blogosphere
    Marginal Revolution
    Matt Forney
    Randall Parker
    Razib Khan
    Reihan Salam
    Roosh V
    Simon Grey
    SOBL
    Steve Sailer
    The Last Psychiatrist
    The Spearhead
    Thrasymachus
    Ulysses
    Vox Day

    Both Forneycator and Fartiste make the grade…

  6. Here’s Fatt Horeycator’s

    Blogroll

    Apocalypse Cometh
    Bronan the Barbarian!
    Captain Capitalism
    Chateau Heartiste
    Dalrock
    Danger & Play
    Danny from 504
    Excavating Eden
    Expat Chronicles
    FKIN
    Freedom Twenty-Five
    Grégoire’s Blog
    Gucci Little Piggy
    Hawaiian Libertarian
    Hidden Leaves
    Jack Donovan
    Juicing for Men
    Manly Reviews
    Masculine Style
    Naughty Nomad
    NexxtLevelUp
    NO MA’AM
    OVO
    Paradigm Shift
    Random Xpat Rantings
    Rational Male
    Red Pill Dating
    Return of Kings
    Roosh V
    Sage Viking
    Shoot Deer
    Spootville
    Stares at the World
    Tao of Dirt
    The Anonymous Entwife
    The Badger Hut
    The Chef in Jeans
    The G Manifesto
    The Legal Satyricon
    The Lifestyle
    The Private Man
    The Quest for 50
    The Spearhead
    Thumotic
    Vikings in Poland
    More Links…

      • it’s almost as if there are A level guys…

        Roosh, Heartiste et all, then B level guys who try to jump on board…

        someone who is better at connecting the dots than myself could articulate this better…

        • Ah yes. Blackpill, ybm and Alek Novy, we’ve all discussed this before. That there are tiers to the manosphere. A level guys, the B level guys and the bottom feeders.

    • Black helicopters means black helicopters. The black helicopters conspiracy theory existed 15 years before anyone outside of certain subsets of aviation circles even knew what a drone was.

      That being said, drones have replaced black helicopters as a conspiracy theorist boogeyman. With the way they talk about drones, they must think that drones are controlled by Skynet from the Terminator movies.

  7. The video of the event he’s describing PROVES how crazy he is to state that there’s video of it happening! Or something.

    The videos don’t show any reason why we should be afraid of the occasional military training involving a helicopter. Yes, Bill Price is crazy for trying to turn that into “TEH BLACK HELICOPTERS WILL BE OUT TO GET YOU!!!”

    What’s this dumb shit about phrenology? Nobody believes that shit. Not even you are that stupid. Show me a link.

    Are you sure you really want to say that no one in the so called manosphere believes in phrenology?

    I will give you two links, the first from manospherian Koanic Soul and the second from manospherian Matt Forney.
    http://www.koanicsoul.com/blog/category/face-reading/
    http://excavatingeden.com/2013/02/21/edenism-101-part-four-phrenology-and-face-reading/

    Koanic Soul and Matt Forney are major personalities in the so called manosphere. Because of that and how the so called manosphere operates on the principle of crank magnetism, phrenology is now a manosphere belief.

    Also, game will give you the tools to radically improve relationships with women.

    And now we know that you’re really full of shit.

  8. What is this “their model” you speak of tard?

    How can “the game model of the female mind” work when no such thing exists?

    If you interview 50 game gurus you will get 50 different models which all contradict each other and sometimes in crucial ways.

    “Game” is an amorphous all-explanatory blob just like “patriarchy”.

    In fact this is how we completely humiliated and embarrassed gamers on AVfM. We just demanded the guys defending game to all come up with a concrete, specific, unified and uncontradictory definition of game.

    Pretty soon they were contradicting each other and themselves.

  9. Come on now, Forney’s a manospherian like Joe Scarborough’s a Republican,i.e.not really. He sorta/kinda writes about “men’s issues” but mostly just writes about his own issues. It’s pretty unfair to use him as an example.

    I personally don’t believe in the black helicopter crap. They’re not secretly using silent black aircraft, they’re openly asserting their “right” to kill American citizens with little white drones and lock them up for saying things the administration doesn’t like.That’s not a conspiracy,that’s just what pops up in the mainstream news cycle these days.

  10. I’m not sure this is the best place to bring this up, but I thought of it today. This blog is the only place I bother reading for anti-“game” stuff. I don’t agree with all of Black Pill’s perspectives but also don’t believe I have to agree with something to find reading it worthwhile. So I check his blog sometimes. I hope, therefore, he and the others will let me post these thoughts here, even if it’s not the most appropriate place. I don’t believe in game. I do believe in self-confidence. I do believe some women are nice and like men without having to be “gamed” into it. I think Roissy says a very few things that may sometimes predict the social behavior of younger white females, but mostly I disagree with Roissy. He cites social science research selectively and does not understand the basic epistemology and assumptions of the human sciences (e.g. that an observed tendency in traits or behaviors does not necessarily consistute a generalizable conclusion that can be use to predict all outcomes). Anyway, I took Roissy’s little assessment test where you add up the points to determine your supposed “sexual market value” and I’m supposedly a lesser beta. Yet, unlike a lesser beta is supposed to do, I have the self control and lack of desparation to date selectively. I choose only very attractive women as partners and, like a lesser beta is not supposed to be able to do, in fact just enjoyed a wonderful Valentine’s Day weekend with a visiting professional ballerina of sound mind and intellect and 9+ body. I also work out regularly, which leads me to my observation of Roissy-ite bullshit. Roissy’s version of the alpha male is a man who ridicules supposed lesser males. Real alpha men don’t do that. Go to any serious gym. I train at one with some very serious athletes. With some lifts I don’t know well yet, I usually do about one-fifth of the weight guys of the same size do, because I’m getting started and working on the form. Serious athletes who are more advanced and whose hot girlfriends and wives are looking lovingly at them while we all work are all around. They display all the attributes Roissy says marks and alpha male BUT they are generous, affable, and encouraging of anyone there, including those whom Roissy would call lesser betas or even omegas. They do this because people are just trying to get fit, be serious, and work out. Plenty of times congratulations and encouragement are passed around no matter even if I do some weight less than some of the women. Getting strong and getting the form correct is what matters, and we all know that and think positive. Roissy and his fans just don’t exhibit the behavior of actual males in the real world who are strong, assertive, confident, and obviously successful with at least one attractive woman. Anyway, thanks for reading.

  11. Come on now, Forney’s a manospherian like Joe Scarborough’s a Republican,i.e.not really.

    No true Scotsman….

    Even if I agreed that Matt Forney (and Koanic Soul) wasn’t representative of the so called manosphere (and you have provided no explanation why this would be the case given that they are both big names in the so called manosphere), Roissy definitely is, and he believes in phrenology.

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