Is There Such A Thing As Non-Misandrist Dating Advice?

Over time my opinion on game has evolved.  My first encounter with gamers were all Roissyites (which includes the Paleo-Game Cult) which made me think that all gamers were mentally ill.  This was not correct.  The typical gamer is just a misguided guy trying to get laid.  While game is a scam, that doesn’t mean that most gamers are mentally ill, racist conspiracy theorists like the Roissyites are.  Since I have came to this realization, my anti-game writing has become more anti-Roissyite game and anti-Paleo Game Cult because those are where the problems are.

I have been thinking about this from the opposite angle as well.  As anti-gamers we are opposed to game, but is our focus on game too narrow?  Putting aside the Roissyites, is there anything special about game that makes it anti-male compared to other forms of dating advice?  I have been thinking about it, and I can’t see how game is different.  Game is anti-male, but so is every other form of dating advice.  There is nothing unique about game that makes it anti-male.

What would pro-male dating advice look like?  More than anything else, such dating advice would have to work and produce results for men.  There is no form of dating advice that does that so all dating advice is misandrist.  Since dating advice doesn’t work and produce results for men, then the only thing it can do is be a scam.  That is true whether it’s a scam for purely financial reasons or for ideological reasons of keeping men obsessed with dating issues so that we don’t effectively fight feminism.  All dating advice has elements of the latter.

What I call the Misandrist Dating Advice Distraction (or MDAD) is aptly named because all dating advice is misandrist and a distraction.  Any attempt to provide good dating advice for men is impossible making anyone who attempts it an unintentional agent of the MDAD.

The Kooks Aren’t MRAs

The SPLC decided to quote my post where I talk about the problem of kooks invading the MRM giving fodder to the SPLC.

This is a lesson that some MRAs are beginning to learn for themselves. “With all of the kooks inhabiting the manosphere, it was easy for the SPLC to smear anti-feminism,” one MRA site sadlyconcluded after our article appeared. “The problem is larger than just AVfM. Even rational anti-feminist blogs and organizations like the False Rape Society and SAVE [Stop Abusive and Violent Environments] are being tarnished with the same brush because the MRM ‘leadership’ has failed to deal with the kooks.”

Does the SPLC admit that FRS and SAVE are rational?  It looks like the SPLC screwed up on that one.

The SPLC gets it wrong because they want to smear the MRM by linking it to white supremacism and other fringe movements.  What has happened is that the MRM has become a target for every fringe marginalized group of kooks from white supremacists to conspiracy theorists to traditionalist conservatives to Roissyite gamers to various other groups who are trying to annex the MRM can convert MRAs into members of their own movements.  These groups are where the kooks are coming from.  The kooks aren’t MRAs.  They pretend to have similar views to MRAs in order to make their own movements larger.  They think that the growing numbers of disaffected men can be harnessed for their own ends.  This doesn’t work, and those fringe groups reveal their true colors and start attacking the MRM.  (Often, this will involve some accusations that the MRM is feminism because MRAs want equality for men.)  A good place for examples of this is Inmalafide which the SPLC calls a MRM website despite the fact that nearly all the people there now hate the MRM to varying degrees.

The SPLC will never admit to this reality.  If they did, then they wouldn’t be able to fake having a legitimate argument against the MRM.  That’s why its key for them to link the MRM to blogs like Inmalafide and Roosh despite the fact that both sites have made it clear that they are anti-MRM.  The SPLC is trying to the same thing the kooks are, but for different reasons.

Why Are Feminists Attacking Anti-Gamers?

I have talked in the past about how feminists are pro-game.  This seems pretty odd since it makes no sense that game or other forms of dating advice or any of the endless blather about “nice guys” would have anything to do with feminism if feminism was about equality between men and women.  It only makes no sense if you don’t realize that feminism is about enslaving men.  If you realize that feminism is really about enslaving men, then it makes perfect sense that feminists would be obsessed with game/dating advice/”nice guys”/etc.  It’s all part of their Misandrist Dating Advice Distraction (MDAD for short) to deflect any and all opposition to feminism by lying that such opposition is all about dating issues.

One of the biggest threats to the MDAD are anti-gamers so sooner or later feminists were going to go after them.  That happened recently at Jezebel when they attacked the site PUAHate.  PUAHate is a website dedicated to exposing how game and the larger “seduction community” is a scam.  The feminists at Jezebel both in the original story and the comments say that this really means that the PUAHate guys are really creepy misogynist losers who can’t get laid.  This is equivalent to Bernie Madoff using a defense that the victims of his scam weren’t actually being scammed because they’re creepy misogynist losers.  Some of the comments from the feminists are even equivalent to Naziism such as this one that talks about preventing “creepy genes” from being passed on.

Darwinism.
These men don’t get to have sex as a protective means by which we can keep their creepy genes from being passed on.

Just replace creepy with black or Jew to see how Nazi-like that statement is, especially since creepy just means unattractive.

Like with dating advice in general (but more so), there is nothing that exposing how the “seduction community” is a scam has to do with feminism (if feminism was about equality between men and women).  In fact, it’s possible to want to expose the “seduction community” for the scam that it is and be a feminist.  Since feminism is really about enslaving men, and feminists use the MDAD to hide this fact, anything that gets in the way of the MDAD is a threat.   This is doubly true for the anti-gamers.  Pointing out how the “seduction community” is running a scam changes the argument about dating advice into one about its effectiveness.  The MDAD rests on two pillars, that any problems a man has with feminism are really dating problems and that there is feminist approved dating advice (whether its game or something other type of dating advice) can solve that problem.  The anti-gamers are directly attacking the second pillar by showing that the dating advice of the feminists and “seduction community” is nothing but a scam.  Since the second pillar is a scam, then it becomes obvious that the first pillar is also a lie.

There is actually a deeper problem with anti-gamers that the feminists at Jezebel or elsewhere don’t consciously realize they have.  This is because many members of the “seduction community” sell things.  The “seduction community” has the potential to run into problems with anti-fraud laws, truth in advertising laws, etc. just as the paleo dieters that sell things have.  Men who are victims of the game scam aren’t just reading random blogs.  They are buying books, DVDs, game seminars and boot camps.  This moves the whole MDAD from being an internet and cultural argument into the realm of business law.  The “seduction community” could not survive any type of legal challenge about the effectiveness of their products.  The result of such a legal challenge at a MINIMUM would be that the “seduction community” would have to use disclaimers like “for entertainment purposes only” like psychics have to use since the “service” psychics provide is fraudulent in any other context.  Even something as simple as a disclaimer like “for entertainment purposes only” is an admission that the whole thing is BS.  Imagine if feminists from Amanda Marcotte with her “non-sexist dating advice” to Susan Walsh and her promotion of game, all had to use disclaimers like “for entertainment purposes only”.  It would lessen the power of the MDAD if not destroy it.

The Great Paleo Dieter Roundup…Or Not

Members of the Paleo-Game Cult are about to be arrested by the government and thrown in a FEMA death camp for beliving in the paleo diet.  At least that is what the Paleo-Game Cult is saying more or less.  Even conspiracy theorists outside of the Paleo-Game Cult are worried about being rounded up.  I’m excited that the government is going to get rid of the Paleo-Game Cult.  Finally, without their interference, the MRM will start getting things done.  There’s just one really big problem.  What the Paleo-Game Cult is saying here isn’t true.  Let’s look at what really happened.

All of this crazy mess started when Steve Cooksey, a resident of North Carolina, started a paleo diet blog.  He did more than just blog.  He sold a paleo diet advice service.  He had two services, one for $149 per month and the other for $197 per month.  The North Carolina Board of Dietetics/Nutrition recived a complaint about Steve Cooksey and had to investigate.  The Paleo-Game Cult will lie and tell you the government is after paleo dieters for knowing the “truth”.  The reality is that in North Carolina you can’t sell diet advice without a license.  Writing a free blog is a different story as the North Carolina Board of Dietetics/Nutrition explains.

The North Carolina Board of Dietetics/Nutrition has a duty to investigate all complaints that it receives. On January 13, 2012 a written complaint was submitted to the NCBDN alleging that Steve Cooksey was providing nutrition care services in North Carolina without a license. Mr. Cooksey is not a licensed dietitian/nutritionist in the state of North Carolina. On January 18, 2012 the NCBDN contacted Mr. Cooksey to inform him of the complaint and to seek further information. That same day, Mr. Cooksey made the disclaimer on his blog more prominent and took down his diabetes support services, for which he was charging a fee. After further review, on April 9, 2012 Mr. Cooksey was sent a certified letter, stating that the NCBDN was satisfied that he had come into substantial compliance with the requirements of the law and that the NCBDN was closing the complaint it received against him. Mr. Cooksey signed for this letter. Currently, there is no active complaint or action against Mr. Cooksey on file with the NCBDN.

As you can see what was at issue was that Steve Cooksey was SELLING paleo diet advice without a being a licensed dietitian/nutritionist.  It had nothing to do with his blog or his “non-mainstream” diet views like the Paleo-Game Cult says.  Once Steve Cooksey stopped selling diet advice the North Carolina Board of Dietetics/Nutrition no longer cared about him.  As the owner of my own business, I understand this.  When you start selling a product or service, there are a lot more laws invovled because of fraud issues and many other issues.  Even a pure libertarian government would have many of these laws since one of the fundamental reasons for government is to fight fraud.  It’s no surprise that the Paleo-Game Cult would be against such laws.  Given that most of them are either unemployed or underemployed and incapable of starting a legtimate business like I have, the only way for them to make money is with businesses or employment of questionable legality and/or questionable ethics.  I suspect that the original complaint to the North Carolina Board of Dietetics/Nutrition about Steve Cooksey came from a former client of his that realized the paleo diet was wrong and selling services based on it is a scam.

Now that we know that facts about what happened, why is the Paleo-Game Cult (and the greater conspiracy theorist community) lying about this?  This is not a trival question because I have noticed that most things the Paleo-Game Cult says turn out to be lies with less than 30 seconds of google searching.  Nothing that the Paleo-Game Cult says can be trusted.  This goes beyond just being insane.  They lie.  The Paleo-Game Cult wants to be rebellous, but without all the messy problems that real revolutionaries have to deal with like death and injury.  Thus, they make up fake persecution stories like this to pretend the government is out to get them.  I bet many of them want to end up in a FEMA death camp or at least prison.  That way they can claim to be “political prisoners” and get three hots and a cot for free.  The latter has to be really compelling for the Paleo-Game Cult since they have so many troubles with employment.

The Paleo-Game Cult wants nothing to do with something that would actually challenge the government like fighting against feminism.  Not only would that mean they would have to get up and do something, but because women benefit from feminism the government might actually go after them.  Plus, it’s not like the Paleo-Game Cult cares about fighting feminism despite the anti-feminism they claim.  Objectively, they are feminist, and they are only using the MRM for recruiment.  They don’t care about the men who lose their kids because of divorce courts.  They don’t care about men who are thrown in jail due to impossible child support orders.  They don’t care about men who are victims of paternity fraud.  They don’t care about men who are victims of the false sexual harassment industry or the false rape industry or the false abuse industry.  They don’t care about men who lose their jobs or can’t get jobs because of affirmative action.  The Paleo-Game Cult would rather make up a bullshit story about being persecuted than do anything to stop real feminist atrocities against men.

To Be Against Civilization Is To Be Feminist

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What is civilization?  There are many definitions of “civilization”, but IMO the most important definition of civilization is controlling female behavior, all of which acts against civilization. Civilization was created as soon as ways of controlling female behavior were developed.  Before civilization men had to constantly deal with female behavior so they never had the time to develop science, technology, etc.  When female behavior was put under control, then men didn’t have to spend so much time worry about women.  Men could spend time inventing agriculture and later other forms of science and technology.  Keeping women and their destructive behavior under control is the key to civilization.

So much of feminism is a screed against civilization, science, and technology.  Feminists have called Isaac Newton’s Principia Mathematica a rape manual.  Feminists hate the technology industry and have attacked technology in general as male rape of the natural world and/or the enforcement of patriarchy over nature.  Feminists know unconciously that civilization is the greatest threat to the power of women.  Civilization was developed by men, not women.  Women are only along for the ride because sex and babies can’t happen without them (for now).  Every advancement in science and technology is a threat to women.  Every advancement in science and technology brings up a step closer to freeing men from needing women.  For feminists to totally restore female power, they have to completely undo the last 6000 years of civilization, science, and technology.

This means that anyone is who wants to undo civilization is objectively a feminist (even if such a person does not consider themselves a feminist).  The Paleo-Game Cult is against civilization too.  The Paleo-Game Cult believes in the paleo diet because they think that diet is what humans ate before civilization.  (They are wrong about that, but their belief is what matters here.)  They believe in game because they believe game represents a pre-civilization masculinity.  (They are wrong about this too.)  They believe in conspiracy theory because if conspiracy theory was correct then the only way to destroy the conspiracy would be to destroy civilization.  They are obsessed with “collapse porn” and complusive doomsaying constantly making predictions that civilization will end because they want civilization to end.  They believe in white supremacism because before civilization they wouldn’t have to deal with people of other races.  They demand that their ideas be exempt from scientific inquiry because science and civilization are practically one and the same.

The Paleo-Game Cult has explictily stated their opposition to civilization as Hawaiian Fat Blob says here.

I agree. “Civilization” is really the domestication of humanity. Once you understand this, you are then free to make a choice: are you going to live life like a lap dog…or more like a free range wolf? I know which end of that spectrum I prefer.

The Paleo-Game Cult want to regress into animals.  They literally want to to revert back into chimpanzees.  This would completely restore female power so the Paleo-Game Cult is objectively feminist just like the feminists.

Do you want to live like a lap dog or a wolf?  They can only think in terms of being animals.  I, like most people, want to be a human being, not an animal.  Unlike the Paleo-Game Cult I love civilization.  I love science and technology and all of the benefits they provide.  I like sanitation, hospitals, computers, etc.  The Paleo-Game Cult like the feminists are free to reject civilization if they wish.  However, both groups are hypocrites about it.  They reject civilization, but use its tools.  If they were consitent they would get off the internet and move to some remote area with no civilization.  If the feminists and the Paleo-Game Cult would leave civilization, then the rest of us could get on with the rest of our lives.

Here we have another example of how the “blue pill” (feminists) and the “red pill” (the Paleo-Game Cult) are both feminists.  Only the black pill stands in opposition to the feminism of both groups.  Only the black pill believes in civilization.

Staying On Topic

I made some updates to How To Tell Real Anti-Feminists From Fake Anti-Feminists page to make it clear that all women didn’t conspire to create feminism as Alek suggested.

On that page InT made a good point.

A good diagnostic, I’ve found: Real anti-feminists stay on topic, for the most part. Fake anti-feminists always veer off into their own pet topics. A recent example is the alt-right types and their obsession over the Trayvon Martin shooting. I don’t think you’d see these clowns anywhere near as obsessed about, say, Thomas Ball’s immolation, or the latest family court tragedy.

This is an excellent test.

What does the Federal Reserve have to do with anti-feminism? Nothing.
What does the paleo diet have to do with anti-feminism? Nothing.
What does game have to do with anti-feminism? Nothing.
What do the Jews have to do with anti-feminism? Nothing.
What do the Rockefellers have to do with anti-feminism? Nothing.
What does the NSA have to do with anti-feminism? Nothing.
What does Trayvon Martin have to do with anti-feminism? Nothing.

Even though these topics and more have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with anti-feminism, the so called manosphere spends more time on any one of these topics than anti-feminism. If they really care about fighting feminism then they would stay on topic. Since they can’t, then they don’t really care about fighting feminism. It’s that simple whether it’s Hawaiian Fat Blob or John the Other and the rest of A Voice for Men.

How To Tell Real Anti-Feminists From Fake Anti-Feminists

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There are lots of people who say that they’re against feminism but aren’t in any sense.  We “know” who is and who isn’t really against feminism, but what is the objective rule to determine this?  Grizzly provides us with an answer.

Because they still put white women on pedestals so badly, they can’t help but think of feminism as something that was done TO white women rather than something that was done BY white women. So even though they’re anti-feminism, they’ve done the weird mental trick of still being woman worshippers, making them truly insane and schizophrenic.

The difference is whether a person thinks that feminism was done BY women or TO women.  If a person thinks feminism was done BY women, then they are really an anti-feminist since they are holding women accountable for their actions.  If a person thinks feminism was done TO women, then they think feminism was done by some other group such as the Jews, liberal men, the Rockefellers, the NWO, communists, minorities, etc. then they aren’t an actual anti-feminist because they aren’t holding women accountable.  Those people are nothing but interlopers trying to take over the mens rights community for the purposes of fighting the Jews or whatever other group they hate.

What does this mean?  Conspiracy theorists, white supremacists, traditionalist conservatives, the “alt right”, and the rest of them are not actual anti-feminists.  This is true in all cases with no exceptions since being a member of one of those groups means that said member thinks that feminism was done TO women.  No exceptions means no exceptions.  Even A Voice for Men is not truly anti-feminist because of all the conspiracy theory from John the Other and the rest of AVfM’s staff because any belief in conspiracy theory means a belief that feminism was done TO women and not by women.

It’s simple, but understanding the difference between feminism being done BY women and feminism being done TO women tells who is really against feminism and who is just a leech.

Conspiracy Theory At AVfM

I have been talking a lot about conspiracy theorists (and related bullshit) at AVfM.  Over and over again I provide links, but I keep getting guys here saying, “I haven’t seen what you’re talking about”.  After this post, there is no excuse.  All of these links are posts, not comments, but posts.  This means that they come from Paul Elam and other members of the staff at AVfM, not random commenters who could be anyone (including feminists trolling AVfM).   Here are the links.

• This post promotes the conspiracy theory that feminist was ran by the CIA and the Rockefellers (complete with inspiration from the conspiracy theorist mangina, Henry Makow).
• Here is more of the same about the CIA running feminism.  Paul Elam in the first comment to that post called the idea “absolutely sterling”.
• Here is a post promoting conspiracy theories about fiat currency and banking.
• This post is promotes conspiracy theories about Leo Strauss.

I’m sure there are more examples, but these are enough to prove my point.  The last two links don’t talk about feminism, anti-feminist or mens rights AT ALL.  They’re completely useless for anything related to anti-feminism.  The first two links also have multiple problems.  The conspiracy theory that Gloria Steinem worked for the CIA (and by extension the CIA funded feminism) is a conspiracy theory that got started by other feminists.  Why should we believe this? All of this goes beyond the problem that conspiracy theory lacks evidence.

When someone talks about the Rockefellers being behind feminism, they mean the Rockefeller men.  Conspiracy theory is an attempt to transfer responsiblity for womens actions on to a group of men.  This makes women out to be victims of men, and it is a refusal to hold women accountable for their actions.  This type of white knighting is what makes conspiracy theorists huge manginas.  You see this everywhere with conspiracy theorists.  For example, Henry Makow promotes the idea that feminism benefits men and only men (when he’s not promoting the idea that young men should be castrated).  How can we possibly trust any conspiracy theorist to be against feminism, since they think feminism benefits men and that women aren’t responsible for their feminist actions?  This shows that conspiracy theorists aren’t really anti-feminist.  They’re either pretending to be anti-feminist to trick real anti-feminists into supporting them, or it’s really just an alternate way for conspiracy theorists to be against the Jews or the Rockefellers or whoever else they think is behind feminism.

Conspiracy theory is also all about false accusations at its heart.  Anytime I read a conspiracy theory about the Rockefellers or some other group of men that conspiracy theorists believe are doing nefarious shit, I see all the same arguements that were used against me when I was falsely accused of sexual harassment.  This isn’t a coincidence.  I will deal with this subject in a future post.

Conspiracy theory also has a lot of other problems I don’t have time to cover like how a lot of it is a scam to sell books and DVDs to gullible morons.  They also have a habit of invading blogs and forums on unrelated subjects and forcing out the sane people who want to talk about aviation, video games, pets, or whatever the subject of the blog or forum is about because people get tired of dealing with them.

The problems with conspiracy theorists go beyond them just being wrong.  It alienates sane anti-feminists and prevents real anti-feminism from occuring because conspiracy theorists are maginas who white knight for women.  It’s clear that the staff at AVfM desires to promote conspiracy theory or they wouldn’t have written posts promoting conspiracy theory.  Knowing everything I explained, how can I possibly trust AVfM to be meaningfully anti-feminist?  I can’t.

The SPLC Has Managed To Exploit The Greatest Weakness Of The MRM

All of you have heard about how the Southern Poverty Law Center is now tracking the so called manosphere.  Many people in the so called manosphere are patting themselves on the back and thinking that it’s great publicity.  They’re wrong because the SPLC has managed (likely by accident) to exploit the greatest weakness of the MRM,the lack of rational, politically astute leadership.

The “leaders” of the MRM like Paul Elam have completely failed to distance themselves from all the kooks that inhabit the so called manosphere.  (Even in the case of game where Paul Elam, for example, took a strong stand against it, he ended up giving it legitimacy by treating it as a valid alternate point of view by debating it in the Elam-Frost debates.  This is another example of the lack of political astuteness of the MRM “leadership”.)  While I’m sure the SPLC would have tried to smear the MRM with white supremacists, conspiracy theorists, and other kooks, the fact is that the SPLC was handed what they wanted on a silver platter.  With all of the kooks inhabiting the manosphere, it was easy for the SPLC to smear anti-feminism with those kooks.

A person who reads what the SPLC says about the so called manosphere might not believe it so they would check things out for themselves.  What they would find by going to AVfM, for example, is kook after kook from anti-semitism to medical conspiracy theories to conspiracy theories about the CIA and the Rockefellers orchestrating feminism to conspiracy theories about dead guys to lies about currency, economics, and the Federal Reserve.  The problem isn’t just a few kooks commenting.  The comments at AVfM are filled with kooks, and the insanity is not limited to the comments.  The last three links are from John the Other, AVfM’s managing editor.  The kooks are just in the comments.  They’re at the top leading AVfM.  Plus, AVfM still links to InMalaFide (one of the sites listed by the SPLC) and Hawaiian Fat Blob.  (Since it would take all of five seconds to remove those links, there is no excuse to keep links to those kooks around.)  Anyone who goes to AVfM as a result of the SPLC, even if they’re sympathetic to mens rights, will conclude that the SPLC is right about AVfM because of the amount of kooks there.  If Paul Elam was more politically astute, he would be in a much stronger position to defend against the SPLC’s accusations.  Instead he is alienating potential allies who would be interested in mens rights but don’t want to be involved with kooks.

The problem is larger than just AVfM.  Even rational anti-feminist blogs and organizations like the False Rape Society and SAVE are being tarnished with the same brush because the MRM “leadership” has failed to deal with the kooks due to their lack of political astuteness.

Even if a potentially ally gets past the kooks, the fact that the so called manosphere is now forever connected to game crap.  One of the blogs that the SPLC listed was Roosh.  Roosh is gamer who has said that MRAs are just losers who can’t get laid and has nothing to do with mens rights whatsoever.  (It can be argued that the kooks have more to do with mens rights than he does.)  A potentially ally who comes to the MRM via the SPLC might conclude that while the SPLC is full of shit, that the MRM isn’t about mens rights but stupid crap about getting laid.  Just like with the failure to deal with the kooks, this is another example of the MRM “leadership” failing to be politically astute.  It’s the Misandrist Dating Advice Distraction happening again.

If the MRM “leadership” had been politically astute, they could have turned what the SPLC did into a victory.  Instead it’s another failure that delays the progress of anti-feminism.

Where Is The Real World Action?

Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech added a page that describes what really happens to men who go through the divorce court grinder.  I added it to my Black Pill Info links because I haven’t seen anything else that so succinctly explains how misandrist, anti-freedom, and unconstitutional divorce court is.

Such a post should inspire the so called manosphere to action right?  The so called manosphere has known about the nature of divorce court more or less for a long time now so shouldn’t we see real world action like protests?  The answer to both questions is a big fat NO.  Here are some examples of what the so called manosphere is up to instead.

• Half Sigma (one of those bloggers who I have no idea why he’s part of any so called “manosphere”) has written not one, not two, but three posts about how Andrew Breitbart’s recent death may have actually been an asssination by President Obama.
• This member of the Paleo-Game Cult is digging deeper when the paleo diet didn’t work for him by exploring “paleo 2.0″.
• This blog is promoting the hoax that aborted fetuses are used to produce Pepsi. (As an semi-off topic aside, here is a page explaining how that’s a hoax.)
• This moron is just repeating Alex Jones bullshit.  (For all of his crap about how the NWO is out to get you, Alex Jones never seems to include divorce courts, a well established way men lose their freedom.  Given that Alex Jones is probably doing it all for the money especially given all the scams he promotes, publicizing his crap for free makes you a fucking moron.)
• Hawaiian Fat Blob through some convoluted insanity is saying that Fox News promotes vegetarianism.
• Ferdinand Bardamu is busy worrying about homosexuality in the video game, Mass Effect 3.
• John the Other, managing editor of A Voice for Men, when he’s not busy repeating feminist conspiracy theories, is making false accusations against dead men (who conveniently can’t defend themselves) about matters that have nothing to do with feminism or fighting it.

I could go on and on with this list, but I think my point is made.  Very few individuals in the so called “manosphere” or so called “mens rights movement” are interested in real world action.  They would rather spend all of their time on the internet in a huge circle jerk trading conspiracy theories back and forth (the paleo diet and game are basically conspiracy theories).  It’s no surprise that they find convoluted reasons to hate Glenn Sacks and any other MRA that does shit in the real world.

Where is the real world action of anti-feminist?  Not in the manosphere, that’s for damn sure.