What are women telling men here? If you want to get laid and/or get a girlfriend, the quickest and best way to do it is to become a terrorist. This means that we will see more terrorist acts in the future, not because of ideology but just to get laid. In particular, this is something that (Roissyite) gamers will likely attempt to do. They can’t keep lying about getting laid forever, and terrorism to get laid will seem like the answer to their problems. Thus I see that Roissyite gamers and the Paleo-Game Cult will go straight to terrorism soon. In a way I’m looking forward to it since it will lead to them getting put in prison where they will be too busy getting ass raped by Bubba to interfere with the MRM. (Plus, Roissyite gamers and the Paleo-Game Cult are so incompetent at everything that they never will successfully pull off a terrorist attack so we don’t have to worry about innocent people getting harmed by them.)
This is part of a larger pattern within the so called manosphere and related communities like the conspiracy theorists and the gamers. They lie, scam, and commit fraud. Too much of the disagreement with the so called manosphere, the Paleo-Game Cult and the gamers contains an implicit assumption, that the manosphere, the Paleo-Game Cult and the gamers are honest but misguided people. This is not the case. They may believe what they’re selling (although we have to question just how many of them are true believers vs. scammers). Even the true believers are willing to lie and deceive you. Whenever I have attacked the manosphere, gamers, the Paleo-Game Cult or even dating advice in general, a large component of my attacks has always been pointing out their lies, scams, and fraud. This is because I don’t have a difference of opinion with these people. This isn’t a matter a differing worldviews. The so called manosphere, the Paleo-Game Cult, the gamers, and others involved in the dating advice industry are LYING to you. They are trying to DEFRAUD you. They are trying to SCAM you.
Whether it’s the gamers, the conspiracy theorists, or any of the other related manosphere groups, our strongest argument against them is their own lies, scams, and attempts at fraud. We must constantly speak up about their lies, scams, and fraud.
There’s a fallacy called The Just World Fallacy where it is believed that “human actions eventually yield morally fair and fitting consequences, so that, ultimately, noble actions are duly rewarded and evil actions are duly punished”. This is a common fallacy in dating advice because dating advice fails pretty easily. Rather than admit that their advice was a failure, purveyors of dating advice will attack the men who tried to use their dating advice. The attacks on these men will include everything from accusations of “entitlement” to “misogyny”. The idea is that the dating advice wasn’t wrong or a scam, but the men using it were so odious to women that the men deserved to be rejected by women. Why this is a logical fallacy is obvious. Just because a woman rejects a man doesn’t mean that he’s defective, guilty of “entitlement”, or guilty of “misogyny”. Saying that men who get rejected by women must have something wrong with them is like saying homeless people are homeless because something is defective about them. Both concepts are wrong.
The Just World Fallacy can only go so far in defending dating advice from men discovering it’s a scam. Even if a man actually is “entitled” or a “misogynist” now (even though that’s unlikely), that wasn’t the case most of the time he was rejected by women. Even if said man accepts the Just World Fallacy as true with respect to dating advice, the problem is that man will realize that he still got rejected when he shouldn’t have. This creates a problem for the purveyors of dating advice so they will end up invoking the Feminist Time machine.
What happens with the feminist time machine is that a man who realizes that according to the Just World Fallacy should have not been rejected by women in the past will be accused of being “entitled” and/or a “misogynist” in the past even though he didn’t realize it. The feminist time machine says that women could practically see into the future to know that a man would be an “entitled misogynist” in the future so women preemptively rejected him and were right to do so. (This is similar to the plot of the short story and move, Minority Report.) This turns the Just World Fallacy into the Just All of Space and Time Fallacy.
The problem with the feminist time machine is that it is a paradox. The only way it can be made to make sense is if women were intentionally trying to turn a man into a misogynist. Since that is absurd, the feminist time machine is also absurd, but despite being a fallacy it will be used to attack men whose only crime is being unlucky with women.
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What’s wrong with showing that game doesn’t work? If you think that gamers make ridiculous claims, engage in shitty behavior, and are misogynists, the best argument against gamers would be that game is a scam and that gamers are charlatans. It’s an argument that could actually eradicate game permanently. Manboobz should be writing about how Eben Pagan and The Syndicate (along with the C team of the so called manosphere) are bamboozling men. Instead Manboobz attacks PUAHate for pointing out that game is a scam! So why did Manboobz (and Jezebel a year ago) attack PUAHate?
Game is feminist despite the supposed anti-feminism of some of its (pseudo) practitioners. Feminists from Dr. NerdManginalove to Susan Walsh are busy presenting an explicitly feminist version of game. Showing that game is a scam threatens feminists who want to use game for explicitly feminist purposes and other forms of dating advice which are also feminist.
Feminists want a devil to eternally fight. If (the manosphere) gamers were successful with women, then feminists could constantly scream about how they are misogynists and predators of women. Showing that game is a scam means that (manosphere) gamers can’t be predators of women, since game doesn’t work. Feminists can no longer seriously say that (manosphere) gamers are a threat to women. In other words, feminists need (manosphere) gamers to be successful, so feminists are willing to go along with (manosphere) gamer lies about being successful with women!
It isn’t only feminists that say they are anti-game, but are afraid of the fact that game is a scam. A similar phenomena can be found among the “Christian” portion of the so called manosphere. The Christian manospherians that oppose game do so for “moral reasons”. Thus you would think they would welcome knowledge that game is scam to boost their moral opposition to game, but they don’t. The Christian manospherians have a similar problem as the feminists. They want to present a Christian/Biblical version of game (which is impossible) around “Biblical masculinity” (which is also impossible since the modern Christian Church is hideously feminized) so showing that game is a scam threatens this task. They also want a devil to fight. In their case, it’s fornicating gamers who prey on women. Just like with the feminists, this requires gamers to be successful with women. If they were to admit that gamers were unsuccessful with women (and thus not fornicating with them), the worse thing the Christian manosphere could say about them was that gamers were lying about being successful with women. It doesn’t have the same impact as fornicating gamers preying on women. Plus, gamers often end up admitting the truth, so the Christian manosphere can’t even accuse them of lying in a lot of cases.
These two groups are examples of fake anti-gamers. They can’t admit the fact that game is a scam created by known scammers which a true anti-gamer does.
Back during the 90s there were popular conspiracy theories around black helicopters. This conspiracy theory was so silly that it became a term synonymous with conspiracy theorist absurdity and is used to ridicule conspiracy theorists. Black helicopters is a conspiracy theory that most conspiracy theorists don’t believe in anymore and haven’t believed in for over a decade. That’s how silly it is, yet that didn’t stop The Spearhead from resurrecting the black helicopters conspiracy theory. (And the article was written by Bill Price, not Hawaiian Fat Blob like you might expect.) That article even has several comments from nutjobs who say they have seen black helicopters.
The so called manosphere is a cesspool of conspiracy theory, but this is a new low even for them. However, I am not surprised. The so called manosphere doesn’t just pick ideas that are wrong. They end up believing in the most insane variant of those wrong ideas. This happens with game, for example. Nearly all non-Roissyite gamers are just guys trying to get laid. While these guys are wrong to believe in game, they don’t share the insanity of the Roissyite gamers. These non-Roissyite gamers don’t believe in conspiracy theory, white supremacism, etc. The so called manosphere is in the most extreme insane fringe of game. The same thing happened with conspiracy theory as we see with the so called manosphere’s belief in the black helicopters conspiracy theory. While all conspiracy theorists are insane, the so called manosphere makes regular conspiracy theorists look sane.
It’s not enough for the so called manosphere to believe in conspiracy theory. They have to dredge up the most discredited and silly conspiracy theories out there (just like how they have dredged up phrenology which was discredited a century ago and is among the most insane portions of pseudoscience).
I have been saying for a long time that conspiracy theory leads to inaction. This comes from my observations of conspiracy theorists both in and out of the so called manosphere (but particularly those in the so called manosphere) who are ideologically opposed to any action against feminism particularly anything involving political organization. They come with absurd BS reasons like “any mens rights organization would be controlled by the NWO”.
Conspiracy theorists apply the same inaction and apathy to their personal lives. All their talk about game is just a smokescreen for their failures to get laid. After reading manosphere blogs, it becomes obvious that these guys never leave the house (probably because they believe that’s what the NWO wants them to do). This is why the so called manosphere has no use for a man who is actually trying to get women.
This proves that any conspiracy theory is the enemy of the MRM. Anyone who is serious about mens rights is going to have to act against feminism and organize politically. Since it has been scientifically validated that conspiracy theory leads to political inaction and apathy, conspiracy theory sabotages the MRM simply by being near the MRM. This is why we must oppose any conspiracy theory in the MRM. We can’t even tolerate just a little conspiracy theory in the MRM because that just opens the door to refusing to act against feminism.
There is no benefit whatsoever to having conspiracy theorists in the MRM.
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There is a manosphere blog called The G Manifesto. A cursory reading of it will put your bullshit meter into the red because its so obviously fake. It’s not just supposition that The G Manifesto is fake. One of the guys at PUAHate caught G Manifesto red handed when he tried to make his readers believe that he knew an actual hitman. It turned out that all of the info that G Manifesto wrote that supposedly came from his hitman “friend” was a copy and paste job from another website. The person at PUAHate found the original website, and if you follow the link you can see how it’s practically the same.
This is just another example of how anything that comes from the so called manosphere is bullshit. They seem to be compulsive liars.
Typically, a scam only has an “A team” and a “B team” where the “A team” is the scammers and the “B team” is the victim of the scams. You can see this in the Scamworld video which has footage of Frank Kern, creator of The Syndicate, on this topic.
So why is there “C team” when it comes to the scam of dating advice since there is no “C team” in Frank Kern’s scam models? The dating advice scam is a unique scam. Every other scam has two groups, the scammers and the victims. The dating advice scam has multiple groups beyond pure scammers and pure victims of its scam. There are a lot of people who promote dating advice scams for agendas other than just making money. They are not in the original in group that created scam, the “A team”, but they’re not victims of the scam, the “B team” either. They are in between. Examples of this type of person include Dr. Nerdlove Manginalove and Susan Walsh who uses game to promote feminism. The so called manosphere also falls into this group because game for many in the so called manosphere is used as a gateway to conspiracy theory, white supremacism, etc. Beyond that the so called manosphere are cuckolds in the dating advice scam because they are not getting laid or getting money from their promotion of the scam.
The so called manosphere are really even bigger cuckolds. When presented with the facts on how game is nothing but a scam and how it has been proven so, all the so called manosphere can do is attack lawyers and try to pull a married man defense.
This was written by TFH, and he didn’t list Athol Kay because that would automatically disprove his point. The rest of these “serious” married men (which there is less than a handful of not “a lot”) are selling a “product”. They are selling a gateway drug into other scams like the paleo diet, conspiracy theory, and white supremacism. (A scam doesn’t necessarily have to be about money to be a scam. Dr. Manginalove and Susan Walsh don’t want your money. They want to scam you into their feminism.) They still don’t personally benefit from this so they are cuckolds to the Eben Pagans and Frank Kerns. Sooner or later these “serious” married men’s wives will divorce them just like what happened to the married gamers who are no longer in the so called manosphere. (In fact, they may not just be figurative cuckolds to Eben Pagan and Frank Kern, their wives may be literally cuckolding them.)
The so called manosphere, the Dr. Manginaloves, Susan Walshes, and millions of others are co-conspirators to the dating advice scam even though they’re not on the “A team” and not benefiting financially from the scam. They’re cuckolds to the Eben Pagan and Frank Kern, but they don’t care because it serves their anti-male agendas.
Who started all of the game crap we now see? Some nutjobs will say the Federal Reserve, but that’s obviously wrong and insane. Most of you will answer Roissy because he is the primary person generating game in the so called manosphere. But Roissy did not come up with game on his own. He got it from others as promoting game acts as a pyramid scheme. A lot of you are familiar with Neil Strauss, Mystery, Tyler, etc., but none of them originally created game. Some of you might be familiar with Eben Pagan/David DeAngelo who is the creator of game in its current iteration (although he rehashed R. Don Steele and Ross Jefferies). However, that’s not a complete answer as you will find out. (David DeAngelo is a name Eben Pagan used to promote his game scam so they are the same person.) Eben Pagan is a member of an organization of internet marketing con artists that calls itself The Syndicate. The Syndicate is behind lots of online scams beyond game/PUA such as internet marketing scams and penis enlargement scams. (Yes, The Syndicate is responsible for the penis enlargement spam in your inbox.)
Where does The Syndicate come from and how is it connected to game? And how do we know about it? We know about The Syndicate due to the work of Jason Jones, a lawyer living in Chicago who runs The Salty Droid blog documenting The Syndicate and internet marketing scams in general. Jones’s work exposing internet marketing scams and The Syndicate was distilled into a single article by The Verge. There is also an associated video which you should watch.
While everything the video says is important, take note of the explanation of The Syndicate starting at around 9:58. Frank Kern is the internet marketing scammer who invented the concept of “syndicates” where internet marketing con artists get together to boost each other. Kern got together with other internet marketing con artists to form a syndicate which they call The Syndicate. Eventually, one of the individuals in The Syndicate was Eben Pagan which makes the connection between game and The Syndicate even more obvious. Frank Kern has more links to game which is why I said that Eben Pagan isn’t a complete answer to who is behind game. PUAHate documented the links between game and Frank Kern.
The connections between game and The Syndicate which includes other internet marketing scams from penis enlargement BS to other forms of dating advice run very deep. Game (or PUA) is a scam just as penis enlargement pills are. It was even created by the same group of internet marketing con artists. It’s telling that The Syndicate created multiple forms of dating advice. The article from The Verge even listed the internet marketing’s biggest (scam) niches, and half of them were forms of dating advice.
All of the knowledge that has been uncovered about The Syndicate gives new meaning to how the so called manosphere operates. There’s a lot of similarities between how internet marketing con artists operate and how the so called manosphere operates. They both use the same tactics and in many cases the same language. The so called manosphere even operates just like one of Frank Kern’s “syndicates”. The only difference is that internet marketing con artists are much more effective than the so called manosphere at separating people from their money.
After learning about The Syndicate, Frank Kern, and the connections to game, what do we know now?
Game is a scam, period. There is no question about it now since it was created by an internet marketing con artist (Eben Pagan) who has deep connections to the rest of the internet marketing scam world.
Every form of dating advice is a scam. It is likely that any form of dating advice you can find now was either created by The Syndicate or influenced by The Syndicate so much it might as well be created by them. (The only exception to this would be dating advice from someone who specifically attacks the seduction community such as Aaron Sleazy.)
Anyone in the so called manosphere who promotes game works for The Syndicate either knowingly or as a useful idiot. This is also true for anyone outside of the manosphere who promotes game or elements of game such as Susan Walsh or Dr. Nerdlove. Since there is no real difference between a useful idiot who has been duped about game and someone who knowingly works for The Syndicate, we should treat them as if they all knowingly work for The Syndicate.
Conspiracy theorists couldn’t find an actual conspiracy if it was right in front of them. Not a single conspiracy theorist in the so called manosphere bothered to investigate who was really behind game. This proves that all of the conspiracy theorists in the so called manosphere are frauds because if they weren’t they would have uncovered The Syndicate. It’s possible that conspiracy theory is promoted in the so called manosphere to distract readers from finding out about The Syndicate by filling their heads with nonsense about the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, the Jews, and other conspiracy theory BS. We don’t know if the conspiracy theorists of the so called manosphere knowingly work for The Syndicate or are dupes. Since it’s impossible to tell the difference, we might as well treat them as if they knowingly work for The Syndicate.
There is some very good news knowing that game was created by internet marketing con artists. The Federal Trade Commission has gotten involved against the internet marketing con artists in the past. For example, the FTC fined Frank Kern nearly a quarter of a million dollars. This means that our biggest ally in getting rid of game and the rest of the scams trying to invade the MRM is the FTC. In addition, the FTC can also indirectly strike a blow against feminism since feminists (such as Dr. Nerdlove) are trying to use dating advice as a weapon against men. Since The Syndicate has made almost all dating advice fraudulent, anyone who promotes fraudulent dating advice now can and should be investigated by the FTC. Even if the FTC renders no monetary judgement against them, it will discredit anyone involved in dating advice whether it’s the so called manosphere or feminism. Eben Pagan, the creator of game, is no longer involved with it. He has moved on to other scams because he knows that game has been around long enough to get the attention of the law. He’s smart enough to know to get out before that happens. The so called manosphere and the feminists aren’t so they are the ones who will get discredited as a result. When it comes to our purposes of helping the MRM and defeating feminism, this is the best possible outcome.
I encourage everyone to read the links on this page. There is a lot of good information at The Salty Droid and the article at The Verge that can be used against the so called manosphere and feminists who push dating advice. We now have proof that game and most other forms of dating advice are scams. Use it as much as possible.
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What this means is that there is a clear distinction between Roissyite and non-Roissyite gamers. For any man interested in game, he has a clear choice about where he wants to go. Thus the only reason for a gamer to align with Roissy is because he’s sympathetic to racism, conspiracy theory, etc. (or he has a negative IQ). Those are the only two possible reasons because a gamer who isn’t sympathetic to that BS (and isn’t a moron) will join one the many non-Roissyite game communities out there. Any Roissyite gamer who tries to tell us otherwise is either lying or a moron.
