Why Are Feminists Attacking Anti-Gamers?

I have talked in the past about how feminists are pro-game.  This seems pretty odd since it makes no sense that game or other forms of dating advice or any of the endless blather about “nice guys” would have anything to do with feminism if feminism was about equality between men and women.  It only makes no sense if you don’t realize that feminism is about enslaving men.  If you realize that feminism is really about enslaving men, then it makes perfect sense that feminists would be obsessed with game/dating advice/”nice guys”/etc.  It’s all part of their Misandrist Dating Advice Distraction (MDAD for short) to deflect any and all opposition to feminism by lying that such opposition is all about dating issues.

One of the biggest threats to the MDAD are anti-gamers so sooner or later feminists were going to go after them.  That happened recently at Jezebel when they attacked the site PUAHate.  PUAHate is a website dedicated to exposing how game and the larger “seduction community” is a scam.  The feminists at Jezebel both in the original story and the comments say that this really means that the PUAHate guys are really creepy misogynist losers who can’t get laid.  This is equivalent to Bernie Madoff using a defense that the victims of his scam weren’t actually being scammed because they’re creepy misogynist losers.  Some of the comments from the feminists are even equivalent to Naziism such as this one that talks about preventing “creepy genes” from being passed on.

Darwinism.
These men don’t get to have sex as a protective means by which we can keep their creepy genes from being passed on.

Just replace creepy with black or Jew to see how Nazi-like that statement is, especially since creepy just means unattractive.

Like with dating advice in general (but more so), there is nothing that exposing how the “seduction community” is a scam has to do with feminism (if feminism was about equality between men and women).  In fact, it’s possible to want to expose the “seduction community” for the scam that it is and be a feminist.  Since feminism is really about enslaving men, and feminists use the MDAD to hide this fact, anything that gets in the way of the MDAD is a threat.   This is doubly true for the anti-gamers.  Pointing out how the “seduction community” is running a scam changes the argument about dating advice into one about its effectiveness.  The MDAD rests on two pillars, that any problems a man has with feminism are really dating problems and that there is feminist approved dating advice (whether its game or something other type of dating advice) can solve that problem.  The anti-gamers are directly attacking the second pillar by showing that the dating advice of the feminists and “seduction community” is nothing but a scam.  Since the second pillar is a scam, then it becomes obvious that the first pillar is also a lie.

There is actually a deeper problem with anti-gamers that the feminists at Jezebel or elsewhere don’t consciously realize they have.  This is because many members of the “seduction community” sell things.  The “seduction community” has the potential to run into problems with anti-fraud laws, truth in advertising laws, etc. just as the paleo dieters that sell things have.  Men who are victims of the game scam aren’t just reading random blogs.  They are buying books, DVDs, game seminars and boot camps.  This moves the whole MDAD from being an internet and cultural argument into the realm of business law.  The “seduction community” could not survive any type of legal challenge about the effectiveness of their products.  The result of such a legal challenge at a MINIMUM would be that the “seduction community” would have to use disclaimers like “for entertainment purposes only” like psychics have to use since the “service” psychics provide is fraudulent in any other context.  Even something as simple as a disclaimer like “for entertainment purposes only” is an admission that the whole thing is BS.  Imagine if feminists from Amanda Marcotte with her “non-sexist dating advice” to Susan Walsh and her promotion of game, all had to use disclaimers like “for entertainment purposes only”.  It would lessen the power of the MDAD if not destroy it.

The Great Paleo Dieter Roundup…Or Not

Members of the Paleo-Game Cult are about to be arrested by the government and thrown in a FEMA death camp for beliving in the paleo diet.  At least that is what the Paleo-Game Cult is saying more or less.  Even conspiracy theorists outside of the Paleo-Game Cult are worried about being rounded up.  I’m excited that the government is going to get rid of the Paleo-Game Cult.  Finally, without their interference, the MRM will start getting things done.  There’s just one really big problem.  What the Paleo-Game Cult is saying here isn’t true.  Let’s look at what really happened.

All of this crazy mess started when Steve Cooksey, a resident of North Carolina, started a paleo diet blog.  He did more than just blog.  He sold a paleo diet advice service.  He had two services, one for $149 per month and the other for $197 per month.  The North Carolina Board of Dietetics/Nutrition recived a complaint about Steve Cooksey and had to investigate.  The Paleo-Game Cult will lie and tell you the government is after paleo dieters for knowing the “truth”.  The reality is that in North Carolina you can’t sell diet advice without a license.  Writing a free blog is a different story as the North Carolina Board of Dietetics/Nutrition explains.

The North Carolina Board of Dietetics/Nutrition has a duty to investigate all complaints that it receives. On January 13, 2012 a written complaint was submitted to the NCBDN alleging that Steve Cooksey was providing nutrition care services in North Carolina without a license. Mr. Cooksey is not a licensed dietitian/nutritionist in the state of North Carolina. On January 18, 2012 the NCBDN contacted Mr. Cooksey to inform him of the complaint and to seek further information. That same day, Mr. Cooksey made the disclaimer on his blog more prominent and took down his diabetes support services, for which he was charging a fee. After further review, on April 9, 2012 Mr. Cooksey was sent a certified letter, stating that the NCBDN was satisfied that he had come into substantial compliance with the requirements of the law and that the NCBDN was closing the complaint it received against him. Mr. Cooksey signed for this letter. Currently, there is no active complaint or action against Mr. Cooksey on file with the NCBDN.

As you can see what was at issue was that Steve Cooksey was SELLING paleo diet advice without a being a licensed dietitian/nutritionist.  It had nothing to do with his blog or his “non-mainstream” diet views like the Paleo-Game Cult says.  Once Steve Cooksey stopped selling diet advice the North Carolina Board of Dietetics/Nutrition no longer cared about him.  As the owner of my own business, I understand this.  When you start selling a product or service, there are a lot more laws invovled because of fraud issues and many other issues.  Even a pure libertarian government would have many of these laws since one of the fundamental reasons for government is to fight fraud.  It’s no surprise that the Paleo-Game Cult would be against such laws.  Given that most of them are either unemployed or underemployed and incapable of starting a legtimate business like I have, the only way for them to make money is with businesses or employment of questionable legality and/or questionable ethics.  I suspect that the original complaint to the North Carolina Board of Dietetics/Nutrition about Steve Cooksey came from a former client of his that realized the paleo diet was wrong and selling services based on it is a scam.

Now that we know that facts about what happened, why is the Paleo-Game Cult (and the greater conspiracy theorist community) lying about this?  This is not a trival question because I have noticed that most things the Paleo-Game Cult says turn out to be lies with less than 30 seconds of google searching.  Nothing that the Paleo-Game Cult says can be trusted.  This goes beyond just being insane.  They lie.  The Paleo-Game Cult wants to be rebellous, but without all the messy problems that real revolutionaries have to deal with like death and injury.  Thus, they make up fake persecution stories like this to pretend the government is out to get them.  I bet many of them want to end up in a FEMA death camp or at least prison.  That way they can claim to be “political prisoners” and get three hots and a cot for free.  The latter has to be really compelling for the Paleo-Game Cult since they have so many troubles with employment.

The Paleo-Game Cult wants nothing to do with something that would actually challenge the government like fighting against feminism.  Not only would that mean they would have to get up and do something, but because women benefit from feminism the government might actually go after them.  Plus, it’s not like the Paleo-Game Cult cares about fighting feminism despite the anti-feminism they claim.  Objectively, they are feminist, and they are only using the MRM for recruiment.  They don’t care about the men who lose their kids because of divorce courts.  They don’t care about men who are thrown in jail due to impossible child support orders.  They don’t care about men who are victims of paternity fraud.  They don’t care about men who are victims of the false sexual harassment industry or the false rape industry or the false abuse industry.  They don’t care about men who lose their jobs or can’t get jobs because of affirmative action.  The Paleo-Game Cult would rather make up a bullshit story about being persecuted than do anything to stop real feminist atrocities against men.

Where Is The Real World Action?

Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech added a page that describes what really happens to men who go through the divorce court grinder.  I added it to my Black Pill Info links because I haven’t seen anything else that so succinctly explains how misandrist, anti-freedom, and unconstitutional divorce court is.

Such a post should inspire the so called manosphere to action right?  The so called manosphere has known about the nature of divorce court more or less for a long time now so shouldn’t we see real world action like protests?  The answer to both questions is a big fat NO.  Here are some examples of what the so called manosphere is up to instead.

• Half Sigma (one of those bloggers who I have no idea why he’s part of any so called “manosphere”) has written not one, not two, but three posts about how Andrew Breitbart’s recent death may have actually been an asssination by President Obama.
• This member of the Paleo-Game Cult is digging deeper when the paleo diet didn’t work for him by exploring “paleo 2.0″.
• This blog is promoting the hoax that aborted fetuses are used to produce Pepsi. (As an semi-off topic aside, here is a page explaining how that’s a hoax.)
• This moron is just repeating Alex Jones bullshit.  (For all of his crap about how the NWO is out to get you, Alex Jones never seems to include divorce courts, a well established way men lose their freedom.  Given that Alex Jones is probably doing it all for the money especially given all the scams he promotes, publicizing his crap for free makes you a fucking moron.)
• Hawaiian Fat Blob through some convoluted insanity is saying that Fox News promotes vegetarianism.
• Ferdinand Bardamu is busy worrying about homosexuality in the video game, Mass Effect 3.
• John the Other, managing editor of A Voice for Men, when he’s not busy repeating feminist conspiracy theories, is making false accusations against dead men (who conveniently can’t defend themselves) about matters that have nothing to do with feminism or fighting it.

I could go on and on with this list, but I think my point is made.  Very few individuals in the so called “manosphere” or so called “mens rights movement” are interested in real world action.  They would rather spend all of their time on the internet in a huge circle jerk trading conspiracy theories back and forth (the paleo diet and game are basically conspiracy theories).  It’s no surprise that they find convoluted reasons to hate Glenn Sacks and any other MRA that does shit in the real world.

Where is the real world action of anti-feminist?  Not in the manosphere, that’s for damn sure.

Like Creationists, Gamers Want To Be Exempt From Scientific Inquiry

No one has ever proven that game exists and works.  There has never been an experiments done attempting to prove game despite the ability of the big names in game to fund such an experiment.  The only time experimental evidence gets talked about with respect to game is at places like Seduction Myth.  When it comes to using game for pickup, it’s in principle possible to do an experiment proving or disproving it.  Since it would be in the best interests of gamers to produce experimental evidence, it is telling that they have not done so.  With the pickup gamers it’s because a scientific experiment would disprove them.

With the married/LTR gamers, it’s different.  They can’t provide experimental evidence, even in principle.  When the possibility of pickup from game is taken away, there is nothing to test.  A man already has his girlfriend or wife so no pickup is possible for a married/LTR game.  Thus married/LTR game is no different than creationism.  There is no way to prove creationism.  There is no way to perform experiments to test creationism because there is no way to test divine creation of the universe or of life.  Married/LTR game has the same problem.  Once there is no possibility of pickup, there is nothing to test.

Some people have brought up men self reporting on their LTR, but that is hideously unreliable.  For example, a man could report that his LTR is going great, while his girlfriend/wife is cheating on him with his boss.  Plus, the same method could be used to prove both religion and atheism.  There’s a reason why you never see such things as part of a scientific methodology or experiment.

Since gamers can’t or refuse to produce experimental evidence of game (either because it’s impossible or because they refuse to), this means gamers are selling a scam.  If anything else was sold in this manner, it would be in violation of various laws including anti-fraud laws.

When challenged with the facts that creationism is untestable, creationists will start attacking science.    Gamers start doing the exact same thing as can be seen below.

I know what happened and I don’t give a ***** **** about “proof” or whatnot. And it is the same for Dalrock, Keoni Galt, and tons of other guys including many men I know personally.
Sometimes reality is just that: reality, and it does not need any peer reviewed evidence to be real.

Creationists want the privilege of being exempt from scientific inquiry, and so do gamers.  Nothing gets that privilege.  NOTHING.  Many things that were declared to be “reality” were proven to be wrong by science.  For example, for thousands of years, it was “reality” that heavier objects fell faster than lighter objects.  But this “reality” was proven wrong by Galileo in a scientific experiment.  This is why we need science and peer reviewed experimental evidence.  What seems to be “obvious reality” is often not actual reality.  Experiments and the process of scientific inquiry act as important check to make sure that what we think reality is corresponds to what reality actually is.

Demanding to be exempt from scientific inquiry, like the gamers are, is almost an admission that their ideas are not reality.  The only thing that game can be now is a religion (like creationism), a false religion with it’s own (very flaccid) inquisition of “heretics” that dare to disagree with game and demand evidence of game’s claims.

The First Hit Is Always Free

Just because something is given away for free does not mean a scam isn’t involved.  Many gamers like to say that Roissy or Roosh or several other gamers are giving away their knowledge for free so it can’t be a scam.  This is wrong.  Drug dealers always give away the first hit of whatever narcotic they’re selling to get you addicted.  Then they start charging you money when you’re addicted and desperate.  If you look at gamers who are selling books like Roosh or Athol Kay, they ran blogs first to get guys hooked, then they started selling books.

In the parlance of those of us who run legitimate businesses, what these gamers are doing is running a loss leader.   They’re giving away something now, for the purpose of selling game books and DVDs at full price later.  That’s all that is happening here.  Using a loss leader doesn’t make something a scam, but it does mean gamers are trying to sell something.  Since what they are selling is fraudulent, that makes what they are doing a scam.

Every Gamer Is Trying To Sell You A Scam

Hollenhund had this say about gamers and their fake MRA sympathies.

We shouldn’t delude ourselves into thinking that Roosh, Ferdinand or Roissy care about men’s rights at all. For example, Ferdinand has once specifically stated that he isn’t an MRA, and Roissy’s indifference and even contempt towards MGTOW and the MRM is palpable. Their main goal – other than simply being bloggers for a hobby – seems to be narcissistic, attention-seeking self-aggrandizement in the form of utilizing their popularity as bloggers to cross over into publishing. Roosh has already done this, Ferdinand has said he’s planning to debut as a writer and Roissy has dropped hints that he wants a book deal by revealing his real identity to mainstream newspapers. I’m sure he hasn’t dropped that goal. I’m not saying this behavior is objectionable or misguided, but then again, it’s a clear sign they don’t consider themselves to be a part of any movement, be that the mainstream, sanitized, pro-feminist seduction community or the MRM. They seem to be interested in personal gain and nothing else.

 I sense the same mentality among other bloggers as well. Obsidian and Alte, for example, were obviously aiming to leech off the growing popularity of the MRM by luring its leaders to their own blogs and converting them to their own creeds. It’s questionable whether they ever cared about the concept of men’s rights at all. Susan Walsh obviously craves some form of mainstream acceptance and exposure by preaching the concept which you correctly named “Game 2.0″. I’d guess her main eventual goal with blogging is also a book deal (or more precisely, deals).

Every gamer is trying to sell you a book (or a DVD).  Since game doesn’t exist, these books are by definition scams.  We shouldn’t be surprised by this since almost all gamers are either unemployed or underemployed and are desperate for income.

We also have to start thinking about preventing publicity of these scams wherever possible.  I now realize that Paul Elam never should have debated Frost.  Why is that?  Because Frost has written a game book, and Paul Elam unwittingly gave Frost publicity even though the book was never referenced during the debate.  Obviously, we can’t stop gamers on their own blogs, but we can stop them on our own blogs and try to stop them on third party blogs they invade.

In the past I have deleted and/or edited comments for two main reasons, spam, and gamers doing weird BS like coming here and attacking me for the purpose of increasing the visibility of their blogs.  (The gamers accused me of being a coward and being against free speech for doing this.)  I’m adding another category to comments I will edit or delete, anything involving a commercial venture I am not involved in, particularly if that commercial venture is fraudulent.  That includes comments that indirectly promote said commercial venture.  (Any commercial venture involving game is by definition fraudulent.)  This is a small thing, but I’m making a stand.

Roissy Has Done More To Delay The Progress Of Mens Rights Than Anyone

I have come to the conclusion that Roissy has done more to delay real progress in the cause of mens rights than anyone.  Before two years ago, none of the gamers knew anything about the MRM.  Roissy is the one who brought them here because he was the one who talked about both game bullshit and a bit about mens rights.  Since then the gamers have been wasting our time, time that could have been used for doing real work to promote mens rights and/or MGTOW.

The gamers are no allies of the MRM.  They passive agressively start fights all the while claiming to be allies of mens rights.  Just look at In Mala Fide for the past week.  It has been a constant attack on mens rights.  (I’m not surprised that In Mala Fide ended up this way.  Everyone writing there is a useless turd.)  Gamers think that mens rights is a euphemism for sexual loser.  This is an ally?  Bullshit.

The gamer invasion of the MRM has led to other scams invading the MRM such as the paleo fad diet.  Had it not been for the gamers this had never would have happened.  This means Roissy is indirectly responsible for these other scams invading the MRM.  This all adds up.  Roissy is responsible for game scammers invading the MRM and all the related scams that hitched a ride with the game scam.  No one else has damaged the MRM as much as Roissy.

Others Are Noticing The Similarity Between The Game Scam And Fad Diet Scams

I’m not the only one who has noticed the similarity between the game scam and fad diet scams.

Alpha and Beta are meaningless concepts even from this horrific appeal to tradition that gamesters use just like paleo-diet enthusiasts. Watch how many so-called “Alpha thugs” and his harem could form a successful tribe to defend itself from a band of “beta” males. They would spill his brain-matter on the edge of a rock along with his flayed offspring and divide the chattel women among themselves.

Knowing that the game scam and the paleo diet scam share this level of similarities, it is no surprise that many gamers believe in the paleo diet and vice versa.

The Pyramid Scheme Problem In Trying To Sell “Game”

Lots of scammers are trying to sell game scams to men.  Most of them don’t get much of anywhere.  Mangina Johnson, for instance, can’t get more than three dozen guys to go to one of his conferences.  Yet David DeAngelo has made $40 million dollars from selling the game scam.  Why has DeAngelo been able to make so much money but newer entrants to game scam “businesses” can’t?  The reason is because there are principles of a pyramid scheme going on here.

There is no actual pyramid scheme going here.  What is going on is similar to a pyramid scheme in that early entrants like DeAngelo make out like bandits whereas newer entrants end up losing their shirts.  Since the newer entrants are just repackaging DeAngelo’s scam which leads to the “info” becoming available for free, they have nothing to sell.  Why buy something you can get for free?  The problem is actually worse because there are a lot of people effectively running game scam “businesses” without charging the “customers”.  These are your Roissys and the like who are doing it for their own ego.

Pyramid schemes always end up collapsing, and game will too in a somewhat similar manner.

Scams Are Everywhere

Game is a scam designed to separate you from your money.  If you have been reading this blog, you know this.  The game scam exists because society has dictated that men who don’t have a woman are lower than dirt.  This creates a large group of desperate men which scammers can exploit.  The gamers are just one group of scammers exploiting womanless men.

Supposedly “reputable” online dating sites like match.com are filled with fake profiles of women because they would have hardly any female profiles otherwise.  (I’m not just talking about the foriegn bride scams that have fake profiles on online dating sites.  It’s much bigger than that.)  It’s gets worse with plenty of cases of outright fraud and nonexistent women.

Just because you don’t end up spending any money, it still could be a scam.  For example, with many gamers, it isn’t about the money but their own self-aggrandizement.  Or it could be about getting you to view ads.  Consider this rubbish on how to date a model at askmen.com.  Obviously 99.9% of askmen.com’s readership will never date a model so from that alone it’s likely a scam.  The video has a hot woman talking to distract you from how you’re being bamboozled.  At the beginning the video says, “become a better man”.  That’s just like the self improvrement rubbish we hear from the game scammers.  Even if you think this doesn’t matter since you didn’t give any of you’re money to askmen.com, how much is your time worth?  If you take it seriously, they scammed you out of your time.

It’s easy to say that desperate men who have been scammed should have known better.  There is some truth to that, but society effecitvely allows such scams because it forces men who can’t get women into a desperate position.  What you have to take away from this is that anything that promises to help you get a woman is likely a scam.  That’s true if it’s game or online dating or pretty much anything promising to help you get women.  When it comes to women, there are scams everywhere.