Scams Are Everywhere In The Dating Industry

I talk a lot about scams in dating advice, but pretty much everything involved in dating has scams embedded in it.  Online dating certainly isn’t safe.  Netcraft has discovered that criminals are running MASSIVE phishing scams against online dating sites.  Netcraft describes how the online dating phishing scams work.

Online dating fraud is often orchestrated by criminal gangs who use fake profiles to trick victims into developing long distance relationships. Once the fraudsters have gathered enough sympathy and trust from a victim, they will exploit this by claiming they need money to pay for travel costs, or to afford medical treatment for a family member. After the money has been stolen, the criminals will make up further reasons why they need more money. In some cases, the fraudsters blackmail their victim into sending money – if the victim has sent any explicit photos or videos to the criminals, they may threaten to send them to the victim’s friends and family.

The amount of money involved in these scams can be considerable. In 2011, a woman in Britain was tricked into sending more than $59,000 to a pair of fraudsters who pretended to have inherited millions of dollars from a military friend in Nigeria. The fraudsters – who were actually a mother and daughter in America – managed to net more than a million dollars before being jailed in 2013.

When I read this I realized that other than the parts that make this an organized scam, this isn’t much different than what the average woman does, especially when she taps into the reserves.  Everything in the dating world whether its dating advice or online dating is a ready made venue for fraud.  Whether its just a woman looking for a man to fix her financial problems or a criminal organization running a massive phishing scam, it’s all the same.  The world of dating is filled with so much deception that it creates a venue that criminals can use easily.  Fraud attracts more fraud so a venue where women are trying to defraud men will naturally attract actual criminals sooner or later.  There’s no way of protecting online dating sites from criminals since the fundamental nature of everything involved in the dating industry is fraudulent.

When you use an online dating site, do you know if you are dealing with an actual woman or a criminal organization?  No, you don’t.  And in some ways it doesn’t matter.  It’s all about defrauding you.  In the dating industry, scams are everywhere and fundamental to the way it operates so you should just avoid it.

The Dating Advice Industry Drove Elliot Rodger Insane

I’m sure all of you have heard about Elliot Rodger, a young man who killed several people in Santa Barbara by now.   He is another murder driven insane by game similar to George Sodini and Gunwitch.  While the gamers have been doing damage control by pretending Rodger was “anti-game” because he visited PUAHate a few times (which has sadly but understandably been taken down).  Before PUAHate went down, I read it regularly and never saw any comments from Rodger.  That’s how little he actually posted there.  (At least some of the so called manosphere probably realizes this so they are already manufacturing conspiracy theories about how the shootings were really a false flag to discredit the so called manosphere.)

Rodger’s manifesto was filled with manospherian ideology and terminology (as well as dating advice ideology and terminology from sources other than the so called manosphere) to the point where he referred to himself as an “alpha male”.  That’s not how an a man truly against game thinks.  All Rodger’s few visits to PUAHate prove is that he knew at some level something was wrong with all the manospherian and dating advice bullshit he was reading was a complete lie.  The world of dating advice is filled with so many logical contradictions in addition to outright lies that it’s easy to sense something is wrong.  Unfortunately, Rodger didn’t spend more time on PUAHate (or better yet MGTOW websites) because trying to believe all of the logical contradictions and lies in dating advice will drive you insane.  That’s what happened to Rodger, and he cracked leading to the shootings.

The dating advice industry is going to turn more men into killers with their scams.  While the so called manosphere is using Rodger as an excuse to push game, other purveyors of dating advice are doing the same thing.  The “Strategic Dating Coach” promises that his system can prevent more Rodgers.

rodgerdatingcoachOther purveyors of dating advice say the same thing and try to pretend that they’re different than the so called manosphere.  A good example of this is at the Dickless Man Project where another dating coach pretends to attack the idea of the alpha male and other manospherian BS just to repackage it under a different name.  The only differences between various purveyors of dating advice is minor aspects of style and presentation.  The substance is all the same so the dating advice industry is guaranteed to produce more Rodgers, Sodinis, and Gunwitches.

The Reserves

In many countries, the military has a reserve.  In the US, each service has a reserve component, and there is the National Guard.  The reserves are made up of citizens who may get activated when extra troops are needed to supplement the standing military.  When they’re not activated, the reserves train on a regular basis.  In the US, the reserves train one weekend a month and two additional weeks a year.

I have noticed a disturbing parallel to the military reserves in the world of dating advice.  A piece of dating advice I have been given numerous times is, “Just wait until X” where X was “you’re out of high school”, “you’re out of college”, “you’re 25″, “you’re 30″, etc.  In other words, there was going to be some point in time in the not too distant future when all of sudden women were going to be interested in me.  That point in time was always not now, but later.  As time went on, and it didn’t happen people just kept moving the goalposts from after high school, to after college, and so forth.  (Goalpost shifting is common in dating advice.)  This piece of dating advice is not unique to me.  I find it all over the place even when I’m not looking for it such as with this example on the Dickless Man Project.

I would also suggest something I heard from a sex advice columnist. Roughly paraphrased: “Don’t focus on getting your teenaged self laid. Think about getting your 22 year old self laid, and work on becoming a good person (and good future sex partner) in the meantime.”

On the surface, it sounds like this piece of dating advice is just to get men to shut up for a while about not getting laid/not having a girlfriend.  In reality, what is going on is much more sinister.  Notice how the quote above doesn’t say to just wait, but to “work on becoming a good person”.  (It also says to work on being a good future sex partner, but that’s impossible without practice.  This is another example of doublethink in dating advice.)  Whether it’s the so called manosphere, feminists like Dr. Nerdlove Manginalove, or anyone else peddling dating advice, they all spend almost all of their time on nebulous and meaningless “self improvement” and political ideologies instead of how to meet women and get laid/get a girlfriend.  The last thing any of the dating advice peddlers want to see is a man successful with women.

The reason why the dating advice peddlers don’t want you to successfully get women is about more than just money.  It’s not just about keeping you as a paying customer.  Many of the dating advice peddlers don’t even sell anything.  Wanting to make you become a feminist, white nationalist, conspiracy theorist, paleo dieter, etc. is a big part of it, but that isn’t the only reason.

The dating advice peddlers want to keep you in the dating equivalent of the reserves.  If you have something women want like money, eventually there will be women who will show interest in you.  Their interest will be fake, and they will probably be plotting their divorce before you get married.  However, given enough time, there will be women who will at least fake interest in you.  Women are only interest in the 20% of men they find attractive.  Women ignore all other men for the most part until they start realizing that their looks are fading.  This can happen as early as her late 20s or as late as her 30s.  Women have nothing to show for the decades of screwing around with the 20% of men except STDs, a ruined vagina, lots of financial debt, and maybe some kids.  When it’s clear that one of the men in the 20% won’t commit to her, out of desperation she will try to get a man in the 80% before her looks fade.  She needs a stupid man to pay her debts, pay for her kids if she has them or give her kids before she hits menopause.  For women to be able to do this, there has to be men waiting in reserve for her.  The 20% of attractive men aren’t enough to go around.

The problem is why should a man be in the reserves.  There’s no benefit for us in getting together with a ruined former slut with a STD especially if she has kids.  It’s not like we would even get sex out of the deal.  As soon as we’re locked in, our relationships/marriages with them would become mostly if not completely sexless.  We’re all better off going our own way and opting out of anything having to do with women.  To combat this, the dating advice peddlers are trying to keep us on the MDAD treadmill by distracting us with meaningless crap that has nothing to do with meeting women and getting laid/relationships with women.  Self improvement bullshit is perfect for this since it doesn’t have any objective metrics for measuring improvement so they can keep you going in circles until a woman fakes interest in you.  Ideological bullshit is also perfect since gynocentric ideologies such as feminism, white nationalism, the red pill, etc. since it keeps you focused on serving women without getting anything in return for your service.  By distracting you from being aware that you aren’t getting together with women, the dating advice peddlers are keeping you in a position of weakness for when a woman fakes interest in you.

When a man decides to give up on women, he is dropping out of the reserves.  This is something women recognize as an existential threat to them because women are incapable of doing anything except manipulating men.  A man who has dropped out of the reserves can’t be manipulated by women any longer.  This is why giving up on women generates more vitrol from women than men who physically abuse women do.

If you’re part of the reserves, drop out.  All that’s waiting for you are debts, STDs, and a sexless marriage that will end in divorce with you losing half or more of your assets.

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Creep Week Makes As Much Sense As Jew Week

Dr. Manginalove just finished what he calls Creep Week.  This is an event he has regularly.  Dr. Manginalove having a creep week is like a white supremacist blog having a Jew week.

Imagine you went to a dating advice website, and it was filled with conspiracy theories about Jews and Blacks.  The only dating advice that website had was not to act Jewish or Black (and acting Jewish or Black was defined completely by antisemitism and racism).  That’s what Dr. Manginalove is doing with “creeps”.  (Remember that “creeps” are just men who women find unattractive and nothing else.)

Demonization of a group or groups are commonplace in dating advice. In the so called manosphere they demonize Jews and minorities.  Dr. Manginalove and other feminist purveyors of dating advice demonize unattractive men with the “creep” label.  They even demonize each other.  Their use of demonization belongs at a KKK rally not as part helping men get laid and establish relationships.

Why are purveyors of dating advice engaging in this kind of demonization?  It isn’t just a matter of demonizing people for getting in the way of their income stream.  Eben Pagan and other purely financial dating advice con artists do the least amount of demonization.  It’s because the purpose of dating advice is not helping men get laid/establish relationships, but tricking you into supporting a (totalitarian) ideology.  Since no totalitarian ideologies work, they need a demon to blame everything on.  That demon can be Jews, minorities, unattractive men, or some other group.  It all comes back to dating advice not actually being about dating but the (totalitarian) ideology of its purveyors.

Honesty Doesn’t Exist In The So Called Manosphere

I have said before that the so called manosphere is filled with dishonesty and fraud.  I keep getting proven right.  Roosh decided to prank the manosphere with a fake story of him getting arrested and jailed in Poland.  The members of his forum were actually stupid enough to believe this.  Roosh admitted this was a hoax.  If manospherians had any brains, they would use this opportunity to question what Roosh (and the rest of the so called manosphere) has been telling them for the last several years.  Other than a few outliers, that’s not going to happen despite all the evidence of dishonesty right in front of them.

From now on just assume that anything a manospherian says is a lie.  You have a 99.9999% chance of being correct.  I don’t know if manospherians are compulsive liars, but they sure as hell act like they are.

No Con Artist Wants A Solution

I found a blog that asks, “Does the manosphere really want a solution?”  The answer is no.  Since we know that everything in the so called manosphere from game to the paleo diet is a scam, the biggest threat to the so called manosphere is someone who comes up with working answers to the questions of women, weight loss, etc.

Twenty years ago there was a movie called, Leap of Faith, about a group of faith healer con artists.  At one point the main character says that the biggest threat to his scam is not the police because the police can always be paid off.  The biggest threat is the genuine article.  This simple and to the point explanation is why the so called manosphere doesn’t want an actual solution to anything.  An actual solution means that they can’t sell you books over and over again and that they can’t keep on the MDAD treadmill.  In other words, game and the paleo diet being lies actually benefits their cause.

An actual solution would be end to the so called manosphere’s business model.  Knowing this, what happens if feminism were to cease to exist tomorrow?  The scam that is the so called manosphere would collapse.  This is another reason why you will never see any true anti-feminist action from the so called manosphere.  It needs feminism to survive.

The Sockpuppetosphere

Sooner or later anyone who disagrees with the red pill cult will get accused of being a sockpuppet of everyone else that disagrees with the red pill cult.  The so called manosphere acts as if there is only one person who disagrees with them.  Sockpuppet accusations aren’t limited to just those of us who disagree with red pill bullshit.  It even happens to lukewarm game supporters who get accused of being one or more of us.  Why do manospherians accuse us so much of being sockpuppets of each other?  It’s not because it’s true of us.  It’s true of them.

Earlier this year, we found out about Matt Fornedarmu.  At the end of July, Rob Fedders did the same declaration of “leaving the manosphere forever”Rob Fedders didn’t leave the manosphere.  He did a Fornedarmu name change.  Rob Fedders is now posting under the name Jeb.  (Ironically, this was uncovered by Fifth Donkey who occasionally engages in sockpuppetry himself.)  Rob Fedders or “Jeb” didn’t even do a good job of hiding his name change.  “Jeb’s” blog is here, and the first post on his new blog was immediately after he wrote his last post on his old blog.

Moving from sockpuppet to sockpuppet appears to be a trend in the so called manosphere.  The reason why a lot of manospherians disappear isn’t because they have left (although many of them do leave).  It’s because they want to start over fresh in the so called manosphere.  It makes one wonder just how many personalities in the so called manosphere are just new identities of old timers that have “left the manosphere”.  This is just another example of how manospherians constantly lie to everyone.

The so called manosphere should be called the sockpuppetosphere.

Why Is This My Job?

I have seen a very odd argument from conspiracy theorists, gamers, paleo dieters, etc.  It goes, “Sure there is a lot of bullshit in game/the paleo diet/conspiracy theory, but you have separate the bullshit from the truth”.  I ask, “why is this my job?”  Why did the gamers, paleo dieters, & conspiracy theorists let their communities get so out of hand?  Why don’t they get rid of the bullshit from their communities instead of telling me I have to search through it?

When you’re trying to convince someone of some idea, it helps to be as clear and concise as possible.  The last thing you want is extraneous rubbish particularly insane extraneous rubbish.  This is doubly true for weird and unusual ideas because you already have an uphill battle in trying to convince people of weird and unusual ideas.  Since it’s obvious that gamers, paleo dieters, & conspiracy theorists should want their ideas to be accepted, then they should be working on separating the truth and the bullshit from each other.  However, they do the opposite demanding that I separate the bullshit from whatever truth they think is there.  If this was anything else such as demand would obviously be absurd.

What’s really going on here?  In reality, there is nothing bout game, the paleo diet or conspiracy theory, that’s correct.  If there was, then the believers in those things would have gotten rid of all of the bullshit long before I was around instead of demanding that I do it.  It’s effectively an admission that game, the paleo diet, and conspiracy theory are completely wrong, and that the believers in those things are either mentally unbalanced, liars, and/or con artists.

The Reason Why The Manosphere Attracts Scams By The Truckload

We know that game is a scam, the paleo diet is scam, conspiracy theories are scams, and everything else the so called manosphere believes in are scams.  The so called manosphere doesn’t just fall victim to large scale scams like game, the paleo diet, and conspiracy theory.  It falls victim to small scale scams like the fake Georgetown admissions employee that was supposedly discriminating against men and photoshopping of faces on to underwear models.

On top of this there are other scammers which are trying to break into the so called manosphere.  John Rambo has been trying (unsuccessfully) to get the so called manosphere to buy into his fake Indian bride scam.  Peter Andrew Nolan (who is probably the same person as John Rambo) is running a scam known as “freeman on the land”.  “Freeman on the land” is a conspiracy theory where there is a secret way to make yourself exempt from all laws, debts, and taxes (including alimony and child support).  Of course, to get this exemption for all laws everywhere you need to have one of these “freemen” help you who conveniently charge a lot of money for their “help”.  Peter Andrew Nolan has been trying to sell “freeman on the land” unsuccessfully to the so called manosphere.  The only reason Rambo/Nolan haven’t been successful at conning the manosphere with their scams is because their method of selling their scams was to insult, harass, and spam the manosphere.  If Rambo/Nolan had a more slick presentation everyone in the manosphere would be trying to get an Indian bride and trying to exempt themselves from the law.  (I wish that Rambo/Nolan did have a more slick presentation at least when it came to the “freeman on the land” scam because anyone who has tried it has ended up in jail.  It would have been a good and quick way to get rid of the so called manosphere.)

Why are there so many scams in the so called manosphere?  Why does the manosphere fall victim Why is the “gullibleosphere” a more accurate name for the so called manosphere?  Why are scams outside of the manosphere trying to get into the manosphere?  There are several good reasons for this.

It’s the same reason the scam capital of the U.S. is in Utah.  Scams are a huge problem in the Mormon Church to the point where the leadership of the Mormon Church had to directly address the problem.  The reason why scams happen so much among Mormons is because of what is known as “affinity fraud“.  People trust members of “their group” whatever that group is.  In the case of the Mormons, a Mormon will trust another Mormon more than a non-Mormon.  This makes it easier for scammers and con artists to do their job in the Mormon Church because they are already starting from a state of trust and a lack of skepticism.  While the Mormons are the best known example of affinity fraud, it can and does happen in every other group whether its an ethnic group or even just a group of like minded individuals.

Affinity fraud is much easier to accomplish in fringe groups such as white (vagina worshiping) nationalists.  Not only do the W(VW)N trust each other more than the outside world (even more so than say the Mormons), scammers and con artists have additional ways to deflect any skepticism of their actions with techniques like accusing skeptics of working for the Jews.  The nature of W(VW)N makes it easier for scammers and con artists to scam them.  A good example of this is the “redemption” scam/conspiracy theory.  The “redemption” scam was a scam started by a white (vagina worshiping) nationalist named Roger Elvick.  He told his fellow W(VW)N that the government created a secret bank account for each American worth $630,000.  This was supposedly started when the U.S. went off the gold standard because the U.S. had to put up its own citizens as collateral to get loans from bankers.  (Of course, these $630,000 bank accounts are managed by a Jewish cabal.)  Elvick’s scam was that he told people you could access that $630,000 through some legal tricks to pay off debts.  (I’m sure he charged for the service of this “help”.)  Elvick ended up in jail, of course, but he was able to scam so many of his fellow W(VW)N because his scam was an affinity scam squared.  Not only did all of the W(VW)N Elvick scammed trust him because he was one of them, but they trusted Elvick more because they thought they were constantly under siege by the government and the Jews.  Their thinking prevented them from rationally analyzing Elvick’s claims.  Plus, Elvick could shout down any skeptic by accusing them of working for the government or the Jews.  Even scammers in the Mormon Church don’t have options like that.

The redemption scam didn’t die when Elvick was put in jail.  It was repackaged by Mary Elizabeth Croft into its current version which is known as “freeman on the land”, the scam that Peter Andrew Nolan promotes.  (When it comes to the redemption/freeman on the land scam, Roger Elvick is its Eben Pagan, and Mary Elizabeth Croft is its Roissy.)  “Freeman on the land” continues to scam people because its an affinity scam spread among fringe groups who are more susceptible to affinity scams than more mainstream groups.

The so called manosphere is the fringe of the fringe so they are even more susceptible to affinity fraud than regular fringe groups like like the W(VW)N.  The so called manosphere has already attacked scientific inquiry and rational analysis making a scammers job much easier before he even tries to scam the first manospherian.  By their own admission manospherians evaluate things not on an objective analysis of the facts but on verisimilitude.  In other words, the manosphere evaluates things on whether it appears to be correct to them.  For something to appear to be correct to them, it has to fit their own biases and ideology.  Manospherians determine if something is true or not based on their own feelings about it, not facts.  This makes a scammers job much easier since any scammer can easily fool any manospherian by putting the right packaging around their scam.  Unless you’re looking to make millions of dollars (because the so called manosphere doesn’t have much money), the so called manosphere is a wet dream for scammers, particularly small scale scammers.

I wasn’t joking when I said that the so called manosphere should be called the gullibeosphere.  The reason why the so called manosphere attracts scams by the truckload is because it’s incredibly easy to scam them.  A scammer won’t make huge amounts of money off the manosphere since they don’t have much money, but a scammer only needs to do a minimal amount of work to scam the manosphere.  Given how little work a scammer has to do to scam the manosphere, the ROI (return on investment) on scamming the manosphere is higher than the ROI on scamming anyplace else despite the small amounts of money the scammer will be getting.

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Manosphere Unity Is Not A Virtue

Every so often I get attacked for “trying to divide the (so called) manosphere”.  The guys making this accusation are doing it out of misguided dedication to “manosphere unity”.  Manosphere unity is not a virtue.

Most of the people who make that accusation have never actually tried a good portion of the gullibleosphere’s crap.   The best arguments against game and the paleo diet any everything else the so called manosphere peddles is actually trying it and finding out how it doesn’t work.  The second best argument against what the manosphere peddles is seeing the results from other people trying it, namely a lot of guys not getting laid and a lot of guys becoming or staying fat.  The guys defending “manosphere unity” are doing it for anything that has the word, “manosphere,” attached to it no matter how absurd it is.

How is everything the so called manosphere peddles in any way coherent?  If a guy is going to defend “manosphere unity”, then all of the parts of the so called manosphere should make sense together (in a way that is positive for men).  However, they don’t.  For example, what does a diet and game have to do with each other?  There is no commonality between the two except that both are scams.  Scams feed off each other and make each other stronger.  That is what the manosphere is, scams making each other stronger.  Guys defending “manosphere unity” aren’t just useful idiots for each scam that is a part of the manosphere, they’re co-conspirators for making those scams much worse.  They are guilty of promoting fraud.