I have already talked about how extending the 80/20 rule to anything beyond attractiveness to women doesn’t work. It leads to very bizarre ideas that aren’t consistent with each other which is something we often see in the so called manosphere. To manospherians, alpha equals attractive to women and good while beta equals unattractive to women. What manospherians do is shove anything they think is good into “alpha” and anything they think is bad into “beta” regardless of whether it makes sense with all the other qualities that they think either alphas or betas have.
Recently, there was a good example of this on Roissy, where he tried to say that feminism was the result of betas. This makes no sense given everything else he has said about alphas or betas except that anything “bad” gets called “beta” by him. One question any sane person reading this will ask is, “But how can manospherians say that betas are responsible for feminism? Don’t they believe that the super rich like the Rockefellers were behind feminism? Those guys aren’t beta.” If you scroll down into the comments of the above link, the boogeyman of conspiracy theory get called betas.
Feminism was created to transfer wealth from men to the central bankers/statists who are typically beta (beranke) in nature.
In manospherian conspiracy theory, central bankers are the great evil rulers of the world. They can’t be beta by the manosphere’s definition, yet they shove everything they believe is “bad” into beta. In fact, they call super rich guys like the Rockefellers betas too.
There are no bigger betas on the planet than the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. Then you can spread their corrupt ideas down the ladder for the other betas. Betas for Satan.
These manospherians are talking about guys they think rule the world which means that these guys have to be alphas by their own definition. Yet, they go through mental contortions to label them beta.
This is another example of how the so called manosphere is illogical. Manospherians believe that betas are desperate for female attention and will obey women as a result, and that the Rockefellers and other conspiracy theorist boogeymen are betas. Yes, manospherians also believe that the Rockefellers and other conspiracy theorist boogeymen created feminism and direct it which makes them alphas. If the Rockefellers are betas like the above comments say, then manospherians must accept that they can’t be anymore responsible for feminism anymore than the average mangina. If the Rockefellers created and control feminism, then the manospherians must concede that they’re alphas. It can only be one or the other according to the so called manosphere’s own ideas. To be logically consistent, manospherians must pick one (or admit conspiracy theory is a fraud).
Since the manospherians will continue to believe in a set of mutually contradictory ideas, this is just another example of how logic and self awareness is nowhere to be found in the so called manosphere.
Conspiracy theorists often lie about what they are all about like Nomad did here.
I think your fucking stupid, most “conspiracy theorists” are warning against shit like communism, because we don’t like dictatorships, that’s what we’re trying to fight against moron
This is completely wrong on multiple levels. First, conspiracy theorists love dictatorships. They have defended every dictatorship of the last 50 years from the Islamic Republic of Iran to Gaddafi because conspiracy theorists think that these dictatorships are run by “heroes” fighting the “good” fight against the Jews/Illuminati/Federal Reserve/Bankers/Rockefellers/Rothschilds or whatever other boogeyman they imagined this week. However, that is not the real problem with the above statement.
The real problem is that statism is not a conspiracy. It’s a worldview that many people CHOOSE to believe in. No one was tricked into believing in statism. Benard Chapin even made a video about this subject.
Just as statism is a worldview and not a conspiracy, feminism is also a worldview and not a conspiracy. The Jews/Illuminati/Federal Reserve/Bankers/Rockefellers/Rothschilds/etc. did not trick women into being feminists like conspiracy theorists want you to think. Women CHOSE the feminist worldview. Women CHOSE to hate men. Women CHOSE to spit on their fathers, brothers, husbands, and sons. There was no coercion or trickery on the part of anyone much less a conspiracy theorist boogeyman.
Sooner or later anyone who disagrees with the red pill cult will get accused of being a sockpuppet of everyone else that disagrees with the red pill cult. The so called manosphere acts as if there is only one person who disagrees with them. Sockpuppet accusations aren’t limited to just those of us who disagree with red pill bullshit. It even happens to lukewarm game supporters who get accused of being one or more of us. Why do manospherians accuse us so much of being sockpuppets of each other? It’s not because it’s true of us. It’s true of them.
Earlier this year, we found out about Matt Fornedarmu. At the end of July, Rob Fedders did the same declaration of “leaving the manosphere forever”. Rob Fedders didn’t leave the manosphere. He did a Fornedarmu name change. Rob Fedders is now posting under the name Jeb. (Ironically, this was uncovered by Fifth Donkey who occasionally engages in sockpuppetry himself.) Rob Fedders or “Jeb” didn’t even do a good job of hiding his name change. “Jeb’s” blog is here, and the first post on his new blog was immediately after he wrote his last post on his old blog.
Moving from sockpuppet to sockpuppet appears to be a trend in the so called manosphere. The reason why a lot of manospherians disappear isn’t because they have left (although many of them do leave). It’s because they want to start over fresh in the so called manosphere. It makes one wonder just how many personalities in the so called manosphere are just new identities of old timers that have “left the manosphere”. This is just another example of how manospherians constantly lie to everyone.
The so called manosphere should be called the sockpuppetosphere.
I have talked a lot about the paleo diet because the so called manosphere is obsessed with it. What is the paleo diet about at its core? It’s about meat, being rabidly pro-meat. That’s why the paleo diet always goes hand in hand with conspiracy theories about an anti-meat conspiracy to trick men into vegetarianism and feminize men.
Who else is obsessed with meat? Feminists. While the so called manosphere is rabidly pro-meat, feminists are rabidly anti-meat. I found a good example of this at the No Man Project where a magina actually says that men eating meat is connected to the oppression and abuse of women. Of course, the mangina produces no evidence for this supposed connection (just as the so called manosphere produces no evidence of anti-meat conspiracies).
This is another example of the red pill and the blue pill really aren’t that different. While on the surface they seem to have different opinions on meat, in reality they have the same obsession with meat and believe that meat is somehow synonymous with men. On a larger scale, both the blue pill and the red pill are the same in that they are politicizing diets and your choices in what you eat. Neither the manosphere paleo diet nor the feminist anti-meat diet is based on scientific/medical facts. Both are political diets and by extension bad for your health. This is why the black pill response to this is to be neither rabidly pro-meat or rabidly anti-meat, but to leave the issue of diets and food choices in the realm of scientific and medical facts where your health doesn’t take a back seat to red pill or blue pill politics.
Both blue pill feminists and the red pill manosphere worships women, and both of them are obsessed with meat. I’m not sure why, but there seems to be a connection between worshiping women and an obsession with meat (whether it’s for or against). One thing that is clear is that obsessing about meat is a distraction from real anti-feminism. The only reason an anti-feminist should be talking about meat is to point out the absurdity of the feminist obsession with meat.
Grizzly pointed out how all the Roissyite gamers are saying that game could have prevented the recent shooting in D.C. at the Navy Yard. Roissyite gamers base this on how he was rejected by a woman he was crushing on. Here is a tweet that Roissy retweeted.
The shooter was suffering from hearing voices and paranoid delusions among other mental illnesses. To believe that game could have prevented this shooting requires a belief that getting laid can cure mental illness. Roissyite gamers believe that the vagina can cure mental illness. That’s a textbook definition of vagina worship.
This is what makes the Roissyite gamer different than the average gamer. The average gamer just wants to get laid. The Roissyite gamer believes that the vagina is some sort of magic that can cure illness.
In the comments of the previous entry, we have been talking about Pax Dickinson, the roissyite manospherian who got fired from his job at Business Insider for using his twitter account to piss a lot of people off. Of course, he did that by regurgitating standard manosphere phrases and ideas. He also regularly commented at white nationalist “scientific” racism roissyite sites. The so called manosphere is filled with racism and anti-semitism so it’s almost redundant to point that out. However, I have a reason for pointing this out.
One of the things Pax Dickinson did on his twitter was start a fight with someone named Anil Dash. I found out who Anil Dash was, and he’s a huge mangina. He’s extremely feminist to the point where I wouldn’t be surprised if he has already castrated himself. In addition to being a feminist mangina, Dash seems to think that being quiet in a movie theater is some sort of white male “entitlement”. His anti-white racism is more clear on his blog when he blames the current economic downturn on “white culture” and his behavior on twitter.
The online fight between Dickinson and Dash was very much a red pill person vs. as blue pill person. The amount of vitriol they had for each other would make you think that they were very different from each other, but that’s not the case. Dash being a feminist mangina worships women. Dickinson being a roissyite manospherian worships white women. There’s no real difference there. Dickinson and Dash are also similar in that they are both racists. Dickinson hates blacks and Jews. Dash hates whites. They each hate difference races, but their racism makes them similar.
What you see with Dickinson and Dash is that the red pill and the blue pill aren’t really so different from each other. The differences between them are minor at best, yet the fights between red pill and blue pill individuals have a level of hate that would make you think they are duels to the death. It’s similar to communism (which maps to the blue pill) and nazism (which maps to the red pill). Communism and nazism are very similar to each other. They are both thoroughly totalitarian systems. Yet, communists and nazis hated each other in the same way red pill and blue pill individuals hate each other. Just because two systems or people are similar doesn’t mean they won’t hate each other. In fact, fights over minor details can be the most vicious.
Fortunately, you don’t have to be aligned with the red pill or the blue pill. You don’t have to pick one form of racism. The black pill is an alternative free of racism of any kind and free of woman worshiping. It also maps to capitalism, limited government, and freedom so you aren’t forced to choose between blue pill communism or red pill nazism.
In the past I have written about how moral arguments against game are useless because they don’t attack the core of game and are really a debate about premarital sex. Moral arguments against game are extremely limited in criticizing game and really about separate ideological issues. Anyone who makes a moral argument against game just wants a Christianized form of game where game becomes a vehicle for promoting Christianity typically of the traditionalist variety. (Although in many cases it’s about promoting red pill Christianity which is a contradiction in terms and is a heresy as far orthodox Christianity goes.)
Feminists also only allow a limited form of criticism of game. With feminists it’s not about premarital sex, but “misogyny”. They are against any criticism of game that actually attacks the core of game instead of being about the supposed misogyny of its practitioners and have plenty of history of attacking anti-gamers. A good example of this can be found at this page on the blue pill reddit. (The blue pill reddit is supposed to be a parody of the red pill reddit.) The page on the blue pill reddit was supposed to be about how the Great DC Gamer Meetup of 2012 was an total disaster. The comments ended up being about my supposed misogyny, baseless attacks on Aaron Sleazy, baseless attacks on the MRM, and a defense of non-Roissyite gamers as practicing “natural pickup” (whatever that is). IOW, the comments were about anything but how game failed. The reason for that is because showing that game doesn’t work in no way helps their cause which is obsessing over supposed misogyny of (Roissyite) gamers. They aren’t against game at all. What they want is form of feminist game where game is used to force men to become feminists. A more succinct way of saying that is that they want gamers to all become like Dr.
Neither the Christians nor the feminists are actually interested in the facts on how game is a scam. They aren’t interested how game was created by a member of an online marketing scam group known as The Syndicate. These facts are dangerous to them because they show that various aspects of feminism and modern (traditionalist) Christianity are lies. Both ideologies say that women are perfect so pointing out that game (and dating advice in general) is a scam shatters the illusion of women being perfect.
Also, neither the Christians nor the feminists are actually interested in helping men get together with women (just as the so called manosphere has no use for a man actually trying to get with women). This is the reason for the attacks on Aaron Sleazy. Dating advice that works would by definition be free of all ideological bullshit. It couldn’t be used to promote (traditionalist or heretical red pill) Christianity or feminism. What the Christians and the feminists want to do is yell forever about the evils of premarital sex and “misogyny” respectively. Dating advice that works would deny them a vehicle for doing that.
If a person or a group is unwilling to call out game as a scam like how Christians and feminists, then they really aren’t against game. Only allowing a limited criticism of game is part of the Misandrist Dating Advice Distraction (MDAD) because groups that only allow a limited criticism of game are trying to distract you from the fraudulent nature of game and the rest of the dating advice industry.