14 comments on “Barbarossaaaa On Gamers

  1. Barbarossa does not like game because it panders to women – women dont like men who pander to them either!

    In fact, Barbarossa and women are on the same page.

    Barbarossa makes the mistake of thinking that game figures out what women really want and gives it to them, but that isnt true at all – if game did that, then it would vanish in a puff of smoke, because women really want guys who dont try very hard to get them and dont really care if women find them attractive.

    Barbarossa wants guys to have high self-esteem and stop pandering to women just to get sex – well the irony of it is that you CANT get sex by pandering to women because women arent attracted to that!

    The problem with game, and the reason it doesnt work, is because it is an attempt to square a circle – women like men who dont do much to be attractive to women and who dont care much, but game tells you to do all sorts of things to be attractive to women, and encourages you to care a lot about being attractive to them.

    Men have to learn that in order to get better with women they have to genuinely care less about getting them, and they have to genuinely be willing to do less to get them.

    It is a painful realization because it means that when you DO get girls, it means less to you, because you care less.

    Yet this is a sacrifice that must be made – a guy burning with desire for hot women cant learn certain actions to get them. He has to stop wanting really hard, which carries with it the painful price tag that when he does get them he wont care so much.

    • The biggest idea of “game” is demonstrated by the “so-called” gurus that already have some of the holy trinity of height, wealth or fame.

      Could Strauss have gotten where he was if he was not already a writer?

      Could Markovic have gotten where he was if he was not already tall?

      I understand they’ll be detractors who say that I’m focussing on just one aspect, but … these “one aspects” happen to be those that get many men interest from women.

      Anyone seen the 4ft homeless unknown game guru?

      I’d also like to point out that the idea of “game” means very little when you end up with a woman who not only, can take you for all you are worth… but probably has seen more pricks than a cactus farmer… has more issues than a magazine stand … or treats STDs like Pokemon (gotta catch ’em all!).

      The other thing to note is that both women and men who cat around plenty have an increased risk of STDs and age faster too.

      So if you want to keep that youthful glow about you… so that you are better able to be where visual age limits work against the players and sluts… so that you have better first impression comparisons…
      Stay single until you find the woman that YOU want.
      Men should start dating the way women do, that way they learn not to take them seriously, and hey presto… they become more interesting as a result. The biggest insult, and hence biggest turn-on that will keep women smouldering… is the idea that your life doesn’t revolve around her, you got things of your own to do. Prince Charming would never have been able to keep his kingdom if he was making cow-eyes all day at the princess.

      On the other hand, it may simple be a case of the women (and men) you already know, destroying your reputation to the women you don’t… because misery loves company. And women love misery, because it begats DRAMA. Alphas and betas want to make omegas look worse so that they are the only ones in contention for the woman’s mindspace.
      On the other hand, a woman who can’t sacrifice towards a lasting relationship in her future, probably doesn’t deserve one.

      In that case, I suggest learning a foreign language and heading overseas.

      • The biggest idea of “game” is demonstrated by the “so-called” gurus that already have some of the holy trinity of height, wealth or fame.

        Could Strauss have gotten where he was if he was not already a writer?

        Could Markovic have gotten where he was if he was not already tall?

        I understand they’ll be detractors who say that I’m focussing on just one aspect, but … these “one aspects” happen to be those that get many men interest from women.

        There is truth to this, but it isn’t always enough. I’m plenty tall enough and have lots of money and neither has helped me with women at all.

        The other thing to note is that both women and men who cat around plenty have an increased risk of STDs and age faster too.

        This is true. I’m 33, but I look younger because I haven’t aged that quickly being a virgin.

    • well the irony of it is that you CANT get sex by pandering to women because women arent attracted to that!

      Not true. I don’t pander to women at all, and it’s one of the reasons women hate me.

      • Ceasing to pander to women is not sufficient to get sex, but its a good start. How would you know women hate you BECAUSE you dont pander to them?

        I am quite sure you are not indifferent to them, which is the key – it seems to me that you define your actions in reference to womens reactions, which is a refined form of pandering just as game is a refined form of supplication.

        Its like the *rebel* who makes a point of ostentatiously *rejecting* social conventions – it is clear his attitude is still defined by reference to social conventions, i.e he is far from indifferent to them. Now I am not saying you are necessarily as flagrant as that, but its the same underlying principle – it isnt indifference.

        • Kassel you really hit the nail on the head. The problem with game and anti-game views are that they have the same origin.

          That Barbarosa video mentions athletes like Michael Jordan and scientists like Einstein as examples of men who have accomplished things for more noble reasons than desiring pussy. But those men didn’t define themselves that way. They just did what they wanted to do, without having to impress women but without having to spite “feminized society” either. Really simple concept: just do what you love and forget all the gender politics, it will free up your mental energy.

          Also any man who isn’t deformed that thinks women hate him or could never be attracted to him is completely oblivious to reality. I have never practiced “game” but I’ve still attracted some women without putting effort (some of those women were attractive, some were not). On the other hand, most women are probably indifferent to me, and I am sure some have hated me. This is PERFECTLY NORMAL, this is reality for 99.9% of men and I don’t understand why game and anti-game people want to complicate it so much.

          If you’re still a virgin, its because you don’t realize or notice when a woman is attracted to you, or you just don’t have the compulsion to reciprocate. That is perfectly fine, but sorry dudes it has nothing to do with gender politics and feminized society.

        • Your post ignores the real fact that only 10 – 20% of men are either actively pursued or do not have their advances ignored by women.

          So it is really not a case of “men choosing to ignore women wanting to get to know them”.
          Because women won’t take the time to approach normal men.

          And even the ones whose charms are not immediately apparent do not lack for sex or some sort of relationship. After all, an ugly girl seething from within that a beautiful girl gets advances from many men, is going to try to balance things out by rejecting a normal man so she feels “on par” with the beautiful girl.

    • This speaks to the handicap principle – handicaps mediate freq.

      Male fitness indicators/signals are energetically costly, and all incur some measure of handicapping in terms of that cost.

      Thus, most embellished/elaborate indicators/signals will tend to suggest *less* handicapping by virtue of their higher costs(in turn suggesting higher genetic quality).

      Informally translated, this means we tend to subjectively observe that successful guys don’t ‘try as hard’ – exactly what we should expect(despite spurious justifications in conventional wisdom).

  2. PRay,

    Mr. Markovic was also a performer before he became the PUA guru known as Mystery; IIRC, he was a magician, hence his bias to doing clever tricks to interest women.

    MarkyMark

  3. The Confidence fallacy: Correlation does not imply causation.

    The parsimonious interpretation is that ‘confidence’ is a dependent variable, adapted from justified expectations(with a basis in some history of prior outcomes).

    In other words: confidence is the subjective consequence of an
    ‘expected value’ – derived of an obligate heuristic motif.

    It doesn’t just spontaneously organize within an empirical vacuum, and thus cannot be trivially acquired outside of ‘experience’.

    So, what gamers(and their apologists) are truly observing(but not intelligent enough to infer), is not that women are attracted to ‘confidence’ per se(as an independent variable).

    But, rather that the men who tend to be successful with women in the first place(for whatever reason), also have a high confidence(justified expectation) of future(continued) success.

    • The men fitting a certain look have the confidence to go along with it, as their success means they have options.
      Precisely the reason why women who chase confident but aloof men, don’t have any leg to stand on when they get pumped and dumped, and try to reel in a nice guy to pay more for their used charms (the excuse is: “I need to restore my faith in men, YOU have to heal me from the effects of the jerk I chose previously”)

  4. Now, where gamer theory may be useful, is in instructing otherwise unhindered males against displaying/communicating/signalling loser vibes(anomalous signals which deviate from normal with respect to Koinophilia), which may work to confound positive fitness indicators.

    But, this will prove determinate to only a very small group of maladapted males, who are in every other respect, attractive to women.

  5. It amazes me that anyone actually gives a damn about any of this. Who the hell cares? If you need pussy that much, get a hooker. You don’t need a women for anything else other than to have children, if you so desire. Geez, get over it, already. You have to actually GET the pussy before becoming pussy-whipped. Relax, you guys will be fine.

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