A week ago Mr. Smith informed us that John the Other, managing editor of AVfM, was a conspiracy theorist and deep into conspiracy theory. Until Mr. Smith wrote that comment I was completely unaware of JtO’s real agenda and loyalties as I don’t have the time to read every article at AVfM. JtO isn’t a member of the Paleo-Game Cult because he doesn’t believe in game or the paleo diet. This makes him a conspiracy theorist in the mold of Alex Jones and Henry Makow, both of whom he uses as primary sources. (Alex Jones is a man who thinks that world is run by a conspiracy taking orders from actual living demons. Yes, you read that right. Henry Makow’s “contribution” to anti-feminism consists of bullshit like a strange fascination with Dick Cheney’s penis and aruging that young men should be castrated.) JtO has also used AVfM to promote conspiracy theories about money and finance which not only has nothing to do with mens rights, but also serves to undermine the cause of mens rights by painting the MRM as nothing but conspiracy theory nutjobs. Today, JtO wrote another conspiracy theory article for AVfM. Let’s look at the bullshit JtO wrote.
Prior to his death, documentary film producer Aaron Russo disclosed the content of a conversation with his friend Nicolas Rockefeller of the Rockefeller family. What follows is a transcription of an interview shown in full in Russo’s documentary “America, Freedom to Fascism”.
“We were at the house one night, and we were talking and he [Nicolas Rockefeller] started laughing.Aaron, what do you think women’s liberation was all about? And, I said, I had pretty conventional thinking about it at that point, and I said I think it’s about women having the right to work – get equal pay with men, just like they won the right to vote.
You know, and he started to laugh, and he said you’re an idiot, and I said why am I an idiot? He said let me tell you what that was about. We the Rockefellers, funded that. We funded women’s lib. You know, and we’re the ones who got it all over the newspapers and television, the Rockefeller Foundation. He says…you wanna know why? There were two primary reasons. And they were one reason was: we couldn’t tax half the population before women’s lib. And the second reason was: now we get the kids in school at an early age, we can indoctrinate the kids how to think.
This way it breaks up their family. The kids start looking at the state as the family. At the school, at the officials, as their family. Not at their parents teaching them. And so, those are the two primary reasons for women’s lib, which I thought up to that point was a noble thing. You know, when I saw their intentions behind it, where they were coming from and they created it and the thought of it, I saw, I saw the evil behind what I thought was a noble venture.”
Taken alone, this revelation from Russo might be dismissed, and indeed, although its veracity has never been seriously challenged, it is ignored by the entirety of mainstream media.
(It should be noted that Aaron Russo worked with Alex Jones.) Of course it’s veracity has been seriously challenged. Among MRAs PMAFT has done it at least twice, and I will do so here. There is no “Nicholas Rockefeller of the Rockefeller family”. You can get lists of everyone in the Rockefeller family, and there is no Nick on those lists. Aaron Russo’s politics were known at the time that he was supposedly told this. Why would a Rockefeller tell their plans to their enemies? It makes no sense. The parts about “not being able to tax half the population” and “getting kids in school early” are historically and economically inaccurate. Both of those things had already happened decades before feminism came around. In other words, every single thing about this conspiracy theory is impossible either because it’s physcially impossible or because it requires us to believe that the Rockefellers were so incompetent that they couldn’t sucessfully execute this conspiracy in the first place.
Not only is conspiracy theory wrong, but it has other fundamental problems. There’s the practical problem of conspiracy theory driving away men who would otherwise be MRAs, but think the MRM is all about conspiracy theory bullshit instead of mens rights. It also gives a weapon to our enemies to easily discredit the MRM. (Other groups like white supremacists who are allowed to hang around the MRM also do this.) Those aren’t the big problems. The big problem with conspiracy theory is that is doesn’t hold women accountable for what they have done. Conspiracy theories treat women as victims of brainwashing so they transfer responsiblity from women to the Rockefellers (or whoever else the conspiracy theory says is behind feminism). When a conspiracy theory talks about the Rockefellers (or whoever else in involved), it’s always a group of men. Conspiracy theories about feminism literally transfer the responsiblity of feminism and women’s actions to men. Conspiracy theory acts as a white knighting enterprise.
What does this all mean? Belief in conspiracy theory goes straight to the top of AVfM. Not only does AVfM’s managing editor believe in conspiracy theory, but conspiracy theory websites are on their blogroll, specifically Hawaiian Fat Blob and Inmalafide. (Those websites also have the problem of linking AVfM to white supremacism and other things of that level.) Either Paul Elam is a conspiracy theorist, or he’s completely AWOL on this important matter. Either way, given that AVfM was supposed to be the number one MRM website on the internet, this means that for the next decade no progress will made in advancing mens rights or fighting back against feminism. There was a MRM between 1970 and 2000 or so. I’m sure that suprises a lot of you because you have never heard of them. The reason why you have no knowledge of the MRM for that period of time is because it was dominated by conspiracy theorists, and they did nothing but talk about the how feminism was the work of the Rockefellers or the Jews or the Freemasons. The only very meager progress on mens rights was made in the fathers rights area (which is important) by fathers rights groups which were not associated with the conspiracy theorists. There is a clear connection between conspiracy theory and an unwillingness to engage in real action against feminism. Why has Glenn Sacks actually had some (very limited) success against feminism? Because he’s not a conspiracy theorist.
Another thing it means is that the whole MRA-PUA debate (and subsets of it like the Elam-Frost debate) are not arguments between MRAs and PUAs, but arguments between two different types of conspiracy theorist, Jones-Makow conspiracy theorists vs. Paleo-Game Cult conspiracy theorists. Whoever wins, men lose. Defeating the Paleo-Game Cult just hands over the MRM to Alex Jones and Henry Makow for at least the next ten years.
Lots of men get disillusioned with the lack of progress by the MRM. One of those men was the blogger at Foriegn Women Only.
Do you remember the part of the Forest Gump movie where Forest stops running and simply says “I just didn’t feel like running anymore”. Well, I feel the same way about writing and reading about Men Rights and gender issues… I just don’t feel like writing or reading about these issues any more… I’m not mad… I’ve simply become somewhat indifferent over the past year. It’s difficult to explain, but I guess I would sum it up by saying that my passion for writing and reading about these issues has been somewhat sapped by several observations:
- I don’t see a lot of creative ideas about achieving tangible improvements or results for men as a gender.
I’m feeling the same way. Only the most minimal of tangible improvements have been made, and those were done by men outside of the greater mass of MRAs like Glenn Sacks. For me, that’s not the biggest problem right now. What all of this means for me is that my work fighting the Paleo-Game Cult was meaningless and useless. All I have done is make it easier for the Jones-Makow conspiracy theorists to take over. If I knew what I know now back when I started blogging, I’m not sure I would have bothered.