Non-Monetary Dating Advice Scams

One thing you will hear when pointing out dating advice scams is the “defense” of, “It’s not a scam because I’m giving it away for free.”  In some cases this is because they are generating enough free content as a loss leader to hook you into buying their books and DVDs.  In many other cases, this is because the scam isn’t about money.  It’s about ideology.  In this type of scam they aren’t trying to steal your money, but your time and you.

This is the case for a lot of the so called manosphere.  Most men aren’t as successful as they would like to be with women so the so called manosphere preys on that so suck men in not just into game but other forms of rubbish like the paleo diet and conspiracy theory.  (They fake being against feminism for similar reasons.)  While a lot of them want to make money off their scams, for the rest of them they just want more people to indulge their delusions of being persecuted by the government and to add to the Paleo-Game Cult.

Ideological dating advice scams aren’t limited to the so called manosphere.  Feminists do the same thing.  Just like the so called manosphere, feminists will use dating advice as a scam to trick men into becoming feminists.  One of the best examples of this is Dr. Nerdlove ManginaloveNerdhate.  Most of his articles attack the group he is supposed to be helping, nerds.  He is preying on them to turn them into feminist manginas like him.  For obvious reasons, the most despicable scams are probably those that target the elderly.  In terms of dating advice scams, targeting nerds is equivalent to targeting the elderly in other scams.

One advantage we have in dealing with ideological dating advice scams is that the scammers will screw up.  Eben Pagan, a pure monetary dating advice scammer, was much smarter than these people.  He kept himself focused on making money and knew that he needed to get out of the dating advice scam while he was ahead (which he did).  Since the ideological scammers are zealots, they are blinded by their devotion to their ideologies won’t be able to see where they are going to screw up like how an Eben Pagan could.  This makes it easier for us to fight the ideological dating advice scammers and expose their real agendas.

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32 thoughts on “Non-Monetary Dating Advice Scams

  1. Yeah scams targeting the elderly are pretty bad. My little sister has MS and the scams that she ~almost~ gets into because of her relatively mild cognitive difficulties make me very angry. Its probably why I’m viciously critical of those who prey on men who might have mild cognitive problems (such as mild autism or just intensely socially phobic) and despite what our friend White Pill thinks, I’m on his side.

    • You mean: “I’m viciously critical of those who might have mild cognitive problems (such as mild autism or just intensely socially phobic).”

      You do mean that, right?

      And it’s more than mild; sick(neurotypical) society made it chronic(fatal even) for me. No one cares about me, ever did or ever will. That’s been obvious to me forever, and will always be for eternity, and I’ve long accepted that.

      I trust no one; in particular those who, in neanderthal-like alpha fashion, call my identity as an autistic “pity-partying”, “crutching” & so forth after already deliberately & shamelessly sabotaging my good intentions with backhanded hints suggesting I’m some “christian feminist” white knight or some uneducated, racist hillbilly, or whatever.

      An ally such as you is as good as accepting a death wish, and much worse than actual suicide(which I get to control at least).

      • Maybe people think that you’re a feminist becasue you describe yourself using feminist/social justice nomenclature, like “neurotypical.” Or maybe it’s because you describe yourself at all. It’s feminsts and social justice worriors who seem to be obsessed with “identifying” as something. Most people don’t identify as anything they just are what they are. This is the type of stupiditity that belongs on tumbler. Do you identify as a daemon warewolf, pansexual, semi angil too?

        • Oh my lord, this is getting ridiculous. So are you seriously suggesting that my use of “neurotypical” to identify my enemy is what has some of you so butthurt? Really?? You don’t like me calling them out, freely giving back to them the sort of “branding” garbage they’ve thrown in my face since forever?

          “This is the type of stupiditity that belongs on tumbler. Do you identify as a daemon warewolf, pansexual, semi angil too?”

          I’m a 40 year old man; I don’t know what the hell those are & don’t want to. The question should be how the hell do YOU know about “daemon warewolf, pansexual, semi angil” or whatever crap you want to assume about me that you think will make me further unpopular here(as if that’s even possible at this point). I won’t even make comment on your spelling mistake.

          “Most people don’t identify as anything they just are what they are.”

          Right, and I told you & everyone what I am! Are you saying most “real men” are afraid to identify themselves?? What kind of cowards are those(besides being obviously neurotypical cowards)?? “Just are what they are”…..that’s exactly the kind of sing-songy, meaningless, condescending, 3rd-Grade BULLSHIT I get to expect from neurotypicals each & every day, hence my USE of the word “neurotypical”!

          “feminist/social justice nomenclature, like “neurotypical.” ”

          Who says(besides you, neurotypical inferior) that the word neurotypical belongs to feminists? If so, then let’s just say I BOUGHT the fucking word, from my diagnosing MALE psychologist, who must have bought the word from the psych books from whence he got his degree/certification, those same psych books from where the authors of said books(probably male 9/10) bought it from some, again, MALE shrink from the 18th or 19th century that coined the word back when women were barefoot & pregnant only, and so thus I, myself, autisticwhitemale, as a MAN, OWN the MALE word NEUROTYPICAL, which you obviously hate so much since I’m calling you out with it, NEUROTYPICAL twit, but anyway it’s MY word for the purposes of any venue in which I, autisticwhitemale, grace NEUROTYPICAL inferiors such as you with the pure, beautiful, sparkling, genuine, 24-karat golden TRUTH behind MY use of the word NEUROTYPICAL.

          So in conclusion, why the hell be associated with people that get so damn hung up on a simple word???[That’s a rhetorical question, NEUROTYPICAL; you don’t need to reply…..actually you shouldn’t be further exposed to Internet sites at all(or print, or TV, or other people for that matter) if you can’t handle simple, non-threatening words in the English language]

  2. http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/ If you neurotypicals need a laugh it can be a lot of fun. But for you white pill, you just need to join tumbler so we can post your stuff on TiA! There are people who think their cats and people who have “headmates” I think you’d like this tumbler thing, they all hate neurotypical people too. They also hate white men so you’d probabily get along grand.

    • “you just need to join tumbler so we can post your stuff on TiA”

      And why the fuck would I help you or your loser neurotypical friends?

      “There are people who think their cats and people who have “headmates” I think you’d like this tumbler thing, they all hate neurotypical people too.”

      Another male Aspie shamer; amazing what you can find at a supposed “omega virgin-supporting”, “pro mens rights” site(the need for quotations should be obvious by now). I think I’m a cat? I hear “the voices in my head”? Really, Chicago Boy? Seriously, that’s what you got? Can’t argue my valid points in addressing your oranges/apples semantical stupidity, so you immediately resort to troll tactics? Why not go full-bore neurotypical alpha male meat head moron and spout out anti-virgin references too? You’re such a Big Bad Alpha Chicago Man, go ahead! Blackpill won’t mind that, I’m sure. I mean, like you “know what you are”, and you “so totally don’t have to identify yourself”……naw, that’s just the stuff of feminist wimpy “schizo” Aspergers like me……and you’re sooooo right about the feminist part…..I mean, the fact that ALL women hate me, that I’m at the very bottom as an lifetime Aspergers(hell I’m not even a PART OF the present feminized society)…..that right there MUST mean that I’m a FEMINIST! GOD, that’s BRILLIANT stuff there Mr. Chicago! No sir! Can’t argue with that logic……hell, I’m so goddamn dumb I didn’t even know what the fuck you were saying until I realized you misspelled “they’re”, but you’re a REAL MAN MRA, fuck spelling right?? Fuck yeah!

      “They also hate white men so you’d probabily get along grand.”

      ProbabLY, you mean. Yes everyone hates the white Aspie male; I said that already. Do you read??[rhetorical again]

      “If you neurotypicals need a laugh”

      I know most are very easily amused, but you’re much more likely to find them on Youtube(or IMDB.com or TMZ some other online sewer)……or your own ghetto rat-trap neurotypical apartment in corrupt Shitcago I’m sure, where they probably shit on the stairs just like in NYC post-hurricane Sandy….

        • I said everyone hates me to diffuse Chicago-JSO, who last said “They also hate white men so you’d probably get along grand” in obvious sarcasm, probably thinking I’d love to spend half my weekend arguing that those idiots(whoever they are) don’t hate me. Since life itself hates me(which I’m plenty aware of), I don’t need to argue whether or not some stupid idiots on Tumblr hate me; it makes no difference if they do or not.

  3. White Feminist Woman at Georgetown University working in the admissions department openly admitted that she REJECTED white men’s applications simply because they were WHITE MEN.

    Brief: A female advisor in the admissions department at Georgetown University has been caught openly admitting that she committed the CRIME of discrimination based on people’s race and gender in the application process.

    This has the potential to create a large scale lawsuit against Georgetown University, and with the momentum building at the rate it is building, seems very likely that will be the outcome.

    Below are the main links to all of the information regarding this news story and case.

    http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums2/tabid/369/forumid/232/threadid/6149/scope/posts/Default.aspx

    http://www.avoiceformen.com/georgetown-university-and-men/georgetown-university-in-a-cover-up/

  4. This is a side track, but here goes. I often find that feminists, particulairly feminist women, often mis-attribute the fact that people don’t like them as an individual to the fact that they are a women and people supposedly hate women ranther than to the more correct conclusion that people don’t like them becasue they are not particulairly likable. But this kind of erronious conclusion is not confined to feminism. Many people mis-attribute the fact that they are disliked to their minority group, rather than to the fact that they are just not likable.

    “thewhitepill” I think that you are a perfect example of this. While blaming the fact that people seem to dislike you on your autism you fails to realize that your downright insulting. For example:

    “Who says(besides you, neurotypical inferior)”
    “NEUROTYPICAL twit”
    “And why the fuck would I help you or your loser neurotypical friends?”

    I really could point out a few more instances from your above comments where you said things that would make people dislike you, but I think I’ve quoted enough to make my point. It’s not that anyone is discriminating against you because your autistic, or because your a man, although men are discriminated against in many ways, it’s because your rude, condecending and think that you are better than everyone else.

    • I reciprocate. If someone’s polite, I’ll be polite back. If someone wants to start a fight, call me names, I’ll make them sorry they did. When my diagnosing psychologist last July told me basically the reason I got picked on in high school was because I missed “non-verbal cues”, or that the reason the school system didn’t ever offer me any counseling or assistance to help me with that was because I wasn’t “extroverted” enough to act up or misbehave & therefore I didn’t “deserve” the attention from the school system that the trouble-makers somehow did…….something snapped. I sat there and watched in disbelief that slimey, pencil-necked, 4-eyed psychologist snarkily victim-blame me for about 3 minutes, basically putting all the willful neglect, cruelty, deceit & sick, twisted mind games of my tormentors all onto me, and he did it with a smug, smirky, self-assured, conceited, sneering look on his face. I wanted to punch his lights out, but I also wanted to leave the facility I was staying at for threatening suicide to get the attention of my local police dispatch 6 days earlier(he was taking full advantage of that situation obviously).

      The word “neurotypical” is catharsis, salvation. Through the mockery intended in that perfect little 5-syllable word I can coldly, viciously lay waste to, in my mind, every single enemy in my path(including that asshole psychologist). I will never let up. I will keep on slaughtering them, all of them, forever. I feel no compassion, or mercy, for them.

  5. I probably am an asshole for saying this, but I can’t help it….

    the irony of Elam standing up for IMF while Fornicator was bashing him is like a feminist defending her abusive boyfriend while making fun of shy, romantically unsuccessful men with the Nice Guy ™ meme…

    anyways, you all might get a laugh outta this…

    https://stonerwithaboner.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/doxxed-like-a-motherfucker-the-strange-case-of-mattinand-fornimu-and-other-creepy-tails/

  6. The primal diet works, period. Why would it be a “scam”? I have carefully looked at the available research, and I have also looked at testimonies such as the Success Stories at Mark’s Daily Apple, one new posted every Friday. And I have tried it myself, it works just fine.

    Sure, you can say you don’t like it if that is your personal preference. But don’t claim science would oppose the primal diet, because it doesn’t. Hey, if you want to be one of those middle-aged men and women who have a permanently paunchy belly and don’t know how to get rid of it despite all their dieting and jogging, then by all means, keep eating wheat every day and go running three times a week instead of lifting weights. (Primal living is also about changing your workouts, in accordance with modern research on what works and what doesn’t.) And if you never want your skin rash to go away, by all means, keep eating wheat every day. But don’t bash those who try something new and find that it works.

    • The primal diet works, period.

      And we’re supposed to take your word for it?

      Why would it be a “scam”?

      To screw gullible people like you out of your money.

      I have carefully looked at the available research

      Bullshit

      I have also looked at testimonies such as the Success Stories at Mark’s Daily Apple, one new posted every Friday

      Websites for penis enlargement pills also have success stories too.

      But don’t claim science would oppose the primal diet, because it doesn’t.

      Websites like quackwatch and science based medicine based on actual science have all the big names behind the paleo diet listed as quacks and frauds.

      Hey, if you want to be one of those middle-aged men and women who have a permanently paunchy belly

      I have seen pictures of people on the paleo diet. They were all fat.

      And if you never want your skin rash to go away, by all means, keep eating wheat every day.

      What skin rash? Now you’re just making shit up.

      • you know bp, i was at my ten year high school reunion this past weekend and one of my friends (whom I had lost track of) is deeply involved in ‘spammer culture’ and ‘google bombing’ and he works a great deal with some of the names you have been mentioning. he is based out of thailand so its going to be slow moving, but I fully intend to learn everything I can about the spammer scam and report back to you guys.

        anonymously and in private forums mind you.

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