33 comments on “Manosphere Unity Is Not A Virtue

  1. I knew I wasn’t really a part of the man-0-sphere when I saw all the white nationalists being welcomed at IMF and of course Paul Elam basically defending his support of the place when it was indefensible…

    I also could see that the so-called alter-righties were obsessed with hbd and IQ while many of them didn’t have great life outcomes. They are just looking for someone else to blame. At least Advocatus Diaboli, scuzzy as he may be has enough disposable income to fuck allot of prostitutes (yes, there is some envy on my part.) Of course, like Forney, he just says allot of shit to shock people…

    anyways, growing up, I remember my dad called my GI Joe’s “dolls.” I was pissed and said they were “action figures.” My biggest thought is paleo is trying to make dieting look macho. It’s not just girls eating salads and smoking to control their appetite. They had to make it sound caveman and tough so “masculine” dewds like Rooshiepoops and the whole crew would buy into it. “Oh, we’re cavemen.” What they don’t know is that processed meat is not nearly as lean as the meat cavemen hunted… They might be smarter to say less processed foods, high quality meat (in reasonable portions), more veggies and some fruits. That’s what doctors have been saying forever….

    • “They are just looking for someone else to blame. At least Advocatus Diaboli, scuzzy as he may be has enough disposable income to fuck allot of prostitutes ”

      That’s because he’s an Indian IT professional

        • “That’s because he’s an Indian IT professional

          haha, does that make him higher on the alter-righties HBD scale?”

          No. The average IQ among South Asians is 85 – the same as American Negroes.

          Sleazebag is an “IT professional” because they are paying him half as much as they would have to pay a White guy.

        • hehe,

          and he’s still slept with more women than any PUA scuzztard out there…

          funny how you alter-righties are all free market when it suits you, then wanting protection from foreigners when it suits you. Just like feminists with all their talk of Nice Guys…

        • “and he’s still slept with more women than any PUA scuzztard out there…”

          And spent less money doing it.

          “funny how you alter-righties are all free market when it suits you, then wanting protection from foreigners when it suits you.”

          Do you want 30 million Aztecs competing for your job?

        • “Hard Right says:
          June 11, 2013 at 2:25 pm

          At least you capitalized “Negroes”.

          The period goes inside the quotes, Einstein.

          http://blog.apastyle.org/apastyle/2011/08/punctuating-around-quotation-marks.html

          What does this have to do with anything?
          This speaks to the point stoner made about alt-righters being obsessed with iq and hbd because they suck at life themselves.
          Why bring up something as insignificant as correct punctuation in a blog comment?
          Because you suck yourself and you’re trying to inflate your own sense of intelligence/importance.
          I really think most of these hbders/alt-righters have actual mental problems. OCD, autism, aspbergers.
          Black Pill, have you read about this edenism theorey that the white nationalists are believeing in?
          They claim that white people are descendants of neanderthals which were hyper intelligent star-people who came form space and now can’t function on this planet because they are too intelligent to deal with the “inferior-minded” cromags (non-whites). Funnily, they claim that aspbergers, autism, etc. are byproducts of being too intelligent to deal with the simple minded.

        • c’mon now, let’s not insult people with autism…

          and, yes I think you are talking about Koanic Soul and Matt Forney….

          GL Piggy links to Forney. While he may attempt to come across as “well reasoned,” one must presume that he shares at least some of Forney’s crazy views….

        • jim says:

          Koanic Soul (or the Thal theory) is largely the creation of Matt Forney (who I believe is also the former manosphere blogger Ferdinand Barnebau).

          We’ve talked a lot about it in the past, its always good for a chuckle.

        • Koanic Soul (or the Thal theory) is largely the creation of Matt Forney (who I believe is also the former manosphere blogger Ferdinand Barnebau).

          Thal theory comes from a guy named Cleve Blakemore who blogs under the name Tex Arcane at his personal blog called “Vault Co”. He was discovered by Hawaiian Fat Blob because of their shared interest in conspiracy theory. Then Matt Forney/Ferdinand Bardamu ran with it. I don’t know if Koanic Soul is really Forney, but it would not surpise me.

        • I’m not a White Nationalist or “hard” righter but I will say this;

          One thing we have not thought through when it comes to immigration with regards especially Latinos is…. Christian Hegemony.

          Here me out –

          We White Americans have finally reached a place of religious liberty and freedom.

          Having finally come out from underneath the yoke of anti-religious freedom Christian Hegemony – do we really want to regress back to by letting in mass amounts of Christian immigrants?

          That too, they are Catholic so if they gain hegemony we could become a satellite colony for the Roman Papacy.

          Look, for the first time in USA history, Protestant Christianity is a minority religion and Buddhism is the fastest growing one – all thanks to our religious freedom and pluralism now that we’ve shaken the hegemonic shackles of Christianity.

          We can continue on this path of freedom or regress again to the mean of Christianity.

          The choice is yours.

          I choose freedom.

          Om Tat Sat

  2. PUAs attack other members of the manosphere all the fucking time. why are you getting credit for all of that? leave some vitriol for the rest of us.

  3. I LOVE this website. Finally, a place where like-minded men can actually talk without being interrupted by those Gamer zombies. I can’t impress how much of an upward battle it has been fighting against these fools in the Christian “manosphere”. It has become nothing more than moralistic Athol Kay…or as some have called him “Asshole Kay”. He supposedly is into some real deep BDSM stuff and he airs his dirty laundry for the world to read about. The Christian “MRA” crowd seem to parade him around as able to save modern marriages from frivorce. This is patently insane. What is worse is that it gives men false hopes about Marriage 2.0. These guys are real scammers. Take a look at some of the stuff that is going on at Sunshine Mary’s blog. People like deti and Novaseeker are parading around discussing the benefits of Game and how such BS can save men’s marriages. How pedantic can people get? Keep up the good work, fellas. This is some good stuff here.

    • Welcome. I was hoping you would find this blog. I have been impressed with your comments elsewhere.

      Here’s a question that guys like Deti and Novaseeker will never answer: How many married guys came into the manosphere, tried “married game”, and are now divorced? The answer is at least 10 times all the married game “success” stories. The men who failed at “marriage game” all left the manosphere so they pretend those men do not exist for all intents and pu

      • Well I’m glad at least someone is reading my stuff. Feel free to back me up from time to time. It’s good to get some back-up now and then especially when they decide to gang up so that they can puff each other up like blowfish. Of course they will never talk about men who failed the marriage game..it’s a cult, just like you said. Heck, I was once nearly duped into becoming an Amway rep until I saw just how much indoctrination those fools went under. Every time someone failed at Amway, which was about 99% of the time, they said that that person didn’t do it correctly or he or she wasn’t committed enough. It’s the same with fad diets and other baloney. This is the reason why I’m a small voice in the wind because I’m trying to warn men from becoming Vladek Filler or Thomas Ball. Their deaths and their blood are the blood of my brothers..I don’t want these men’s death to be in vain.

        I often think, what would this world be like if this generation of men no longer were under the servitude and bondage of their sexual urges. Would we see a Second Renaissance…a reawakening unlike any in all of human history? Would men finally realize their full worth and celebrate and enjoy who they are..as creatures made in God’s image? Would they finally take their rightful place beneath God as His Elected to govern the earth without the capricious and vile idiocy of their female counterparts? How often I have tried to talk to men, only to have the conversation interrupted with their penis talking for them? How often have I pointed out the lack of sincere human empathy, and integrity in the women they show an interest in, just to be rebutted by saying something as stupid as “well I just have to be the top dog in the bunch for her to care for me” Is our humanity worth so very little that we must cast it aside or consider a thing of weakness and shun so that we can be more appeasing to those who would have us become their servants? I tell you, all that wonderful talk of emancipation of slavery meant nothing for in the end, mankind unshackled itself from God’s guidance and grace and put on the yolk of servitude to the Almighty Vagina.

        Take a look at what I wrote on Society of Phineas against Elspeth. She talks a good game when it comes to “being one of the ladies that gets it” but she often rubs salt in men’s wounds by celebrating her husbands “alphaness” and how he was an unbeliever when she met him and married him. Apparently the men in her church who were following God were not good enough. Now she portends to give young single Christian men advice..the very same men she had shunned when she was our age. What hypocrisy! Everytime someone calls me a misogynist, an angel goes to Heaven.

        • BP,

          It’s good to finally find another kindred spirit willing to at least say that which must be said and the consequences be damned. Honestly, when I first found the manosphere, I had hope in my heart that there were men who finally understood what I had seen and felt what I had felt. But the more I stayed in and read on, the more disheartened I became. Instead of embracing who they are and coming to better terms with the very integrity and worth as human beings, they felt they needed to become bloody Johnny Bravo in order bag and bang chicks. It dawned on me that these guys were probably watching way too much Johnny Bravo on Cartoon Network. It started to bleed into the Christian community and now you have total old, white posers talking a bunch of puerile nonsense about “dominant masculine frame” as if it was some kind of Jedi mind trick. Instead of holding women FULLY responsible for their decisions, they decided to once again throw men under the bus and call them losers by chiding them for not being dominant/confident and being too “beta”.

          My old man once told me that you can fake confidence all you want. Courage..now that is RARE. That is a quality you don’t see everyday for it only blossoms in the heat of danger, threat, and loss. It is a character that is reaped from trials and tribulations. I’ve known very courageous young men who had braved very life-threatening environments in southeast Asia for missionary trips. They were seen as typical beta’s by the girls back home. My solution to them wasn’t to become confident cocky jack’n’apes like the turds that these girls were going out with, my solution was for them to focus on God, for He valued them far more than women EVER will. That is my regretful answer to all young brothers…not to deny what they have found out about women and go back to the feminist lies, not to adhere to Game baloney and BDSM A-Hole Kay’s BS, but to reject the very people who rejected them. If our core humanity is not good enough for women, then what damn good are we other than as utilities and accessories? How different are men to a woman than say an iPhone charger?

    • Crimson,

      I agree with on on Asshole Kay. But, you’re wrong about the married Christian MRAs and game not working.

      Look at Sunshine Mary’s husband. He cheated on her 30 times and she took him back because he is a major alpha and knows how to game her. She admits as much on her blog.

      Look at Deti. His wife wouldn’t sleep with him for years. Then, he got game and now she knows better than to say “no” to his advances.

      And Dalrock seems to have always been able to keep his wife in line using game.

      I don’t think it’s necessary in every marriage; my husband doesn’t use it and doesn’t need it. But, for a failing Christian marriage it can be better than giving up and ending up in divorce court.

      • The fact that her husband cheated on her over 30 times seems to indicate that there is a problem a lot worse in that family than is really being brought forth. Whatever it is, it is their problem and none of our business. As for all of these personal anecdotes, all we have is their word. For all we know, there could have been a multitude of factors that would have kept their wives in check. The fact of the matter is, there is really no way you can Jedi mind trick someone into staying. That is ultimately the thin line of desertion and disaster that all men walk. However, we are all told that such a problem will never arise as long as we have “love”. The only kind of love (a true love) that I know of is of a man who suffered the most excruciating torture that a human being could suffer for crimes not of his doing because He loved us when we didn’t know Him or didn’t want to know Him. Dalrock, deti, and the sort like to smell their own breath and hear their own words when it comes to dishing out their marital advice and air their dirty laundry. At first, when they started to point out the hypocrisy in the church and backing their assertions up with Scripture, I was on their side and finally thought that I was in a forum of people dedicated to God’s Word. Only later did I find out that the whole thing was nothing more than a run-on Viagra commercial mixed in with some Johnny Bravo.

        Standing up for yourself is hardly something brand new and revolutionary. Standing up for yourself is something that was originally taught in schools and at home so that when a boy grew into a man, he didn’t take crap from people, including his wife. The fact that you have philanderer’s and sex-crazed horn dogs dishing out advice on self-respect and confidence is a SERIOUSLY EGREGIOUS AND ETHICALLY DYSFUNCTIONAL indictment on Western civilization, ESPECIALLY its women! I will say this once and for all…I am NO ONE’S REDEEMER! Hell, I can’t redeem myself from my own sins, how the hell am I going to redeem a woman from her’s? With the way most women are fickle and flakier than a piece of dandruff in a snowstorm, there wouldn’t even be enough time to implement “game” or whatever the hell these children are mewling on about before she decided to mention the dreaded “D-word”.

        Somehow it just dawns on me the more desperate people’s marital problems get, the more they are willing to put aside all logic and start believing in fairy tales. I’d need to see hardcore tangible proof before I start believing someone’s “story” online. I can spin a yarn just as good as the next guy and I can do a pretty decent job of keeping to my story long enough to make it believable, doesn’t mean a damn thing in real life. What motive would someone have for making up a story – you may ask. Well for one, instant stardom as an “expert” or “success story”. Just look at weight-loss superstar’s like Jared from Subway…instant appearance in the limelight. The deal with him though, is that it was hard tangible evidence that our eyes could see firsthand. Deti and Dalrock and the rest are unknown people under an assumed alias who just happen to be running blogs and commenting for a very long time. Yeah they are good at cataloging and researching, but even a remedial engineer or researcher can do that much. Drawing inferences and conclusions would mean they have great aptitude for logical and spatial reasoning, but it doesn’t really add to the hard-tangible requirement to make their stories true. You have to rely on the benefit of the doubt. Rather heavy odds just to lay upon taking advice on something as important as a marriage. But hey, if you want to “wish upon a star” be my guest. I’m not holding my breath on Tinkerbell spreading her legs for you anytime soon.

        You mention SSM’s husband cheating on her 30 times. If that is the case, what you are basically saying, in using such an example, is that one can commit adultery and fornication as long as they are able to capitalize on their spouse’s fallen nature in their weakness for “dominant masculine frame?” What I find classic in those blogs is that the word “God” hardly even pops up in terms of even considering prayer in the middle of all this rushing around. I suppose since God doesn’t answer them in their time, that He doesn’t respond to prayer and thanksgiving and wants us to take control of the situation, consequences be damned. Whenever I do bring God up in the discussion, the classical response I get is that “oh well the church said the same thing, and we all know that they enable the divorce culture”..so they end up throwing the baby out with the bath water.

        Look if it works for your marriage..go for it. Personally, I’d like to see us all come back 10-15 years down the road to see if the picture is still rosy with husband’s saying “open that snatch” and their wives saying “how wide”? I’m not holding my breath on that one. The problem I have is when these guru’s start advising young single Christian men about the wonders of using game to jump-start any marriage. It’s a false hope based on MARGINAL results (I’ll give you just that much for the sake of any benefit of the doubt that you might be clinging to since Deti’s, Dalrock’s, and SSM’s marriages are such paragon’s of sexual bliss). That’s outright deceit, fraud, and malice towards innocent men. I’m not willing to stand by and let another bloke become Vladek Filler or Thomas Ball. I don’t care how rosy a picture the church paints, or how much these guys talk about how much mind-blowing sex they’re having with their Old Ladies…because in the grand scheme of things YOU CAN’T DENY A 50% DIVORCE RATE! That is tangible proof…fact..pure non-fictional FACT. I can literally line up a group of young single men and tell them to look to their left and then to their right… and tell them, with no compunction of doubt in my mind, that AT LEAST one of them will be divorced. With the unfairness of the divorce court system, I’m not willing to let them walk into that Hell.

        You’re going to have to come after me with more than Disney fairy tales if you want to argue coherently regarding the merits of “game”. The consequences of divorce and the destruction of the family is no game, ma’am. To have reduced such a thing down to such an infantile level shows that we, as a nation, and as a society have far deeper dysfunctions that transcend a woman’s pathetic BDSM fantasies. Grow the hell up.

        • Oh they will remain eerily quiet when trying to answer that question, BP. You will only hear crickets when asking something like that. It’s no different than Amway MLMer’s trying evade valid criticism about how 99% of the people in MLM’s lose money and don’t make anything. Yet it is still paraded as the panacea of financial wealth generation for everyone.

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  5. Pretty much most of what you do is attack factions of the manosphere. Most of the manosphere factions exposes female privilege, they simply disagree on how to deal with this reality.

    If I were a feminist, I could see myself doing what you are sleazily doing. Pretend to be “one of us,” focus on fringe lunatics in the manosphere to paint a false portrait of everyone and spend very little time combating actual misandry. Wait for people who have done great work to slip once and then crucify them for it, as you did with Paul Elam.

    Divide and conquer.

    • Most of the manosphere factions exposes female privilege, they simply disagree on how to deal with this reality.

      The manosphere answer to female privilege is that you’re a bitter beta-omega if you speak up against it.

      If I were a feminist, I could see myself doing what you are sleazily doing. Pretend to be “one of us,” focus on fringe lunatics in the manosphere to paint a false portrait of everyone and spend very little time combating actual misandry.

      If I was a feminist, what I would do is try to bog down the MRM in irrelevant bullshit like diets (the paleo diet that doesn’t work), dating advice (game that doesn’t work), conspiracy theory, anti-semitism, white nationalism/racism, etc. In other words what a feminist would do is create the manosphere to derail the MRM.

      Wait for people who have done great work to slip once and then crucify them for it, as you did with Paul Elam.

      Your friends like Dr. Illusion attack the MRM (and by extension Paul Elam) more than I ever do yet I don’t see you attacking him so you’re full of shit. Paul Elam has reoccurring problems with failing to verify things and with who he trusts. He supports people who then attack him, and it happens over and over again from Matt Forney/Bardamu to Kristna Hansen.

      Besides Paul Elam has said that he isn’t part of the manosphere so you don’t get to claim him when it’s convenient.

  6. It’s a little disconcerting to find that I am being accused here of peddling game. If you are so into verifying facts, you might have started with verifying this one, Mr. Black Pill.

    In fact, I have for the past year questioned whether game as taught by pick up artists is moral and licit for Christians to use. I have given guest posters the chance to argue both for and against game. Mr. Crimson Viceroy seriously misrepresent me when he says this:

    You mention SSM’s husband cheating on her 30 times. If that is the case, what you are basically saying, in using such an example, is that one can commit adultery and fornication as long as they are able to capitalize on their spouse’s fallen nature in their weakness for “dominant masculine frame?” What I find classic in those blogs is that the word “God” hardly even pops up in terms of even considering prayer in the middle of all this rushing around.

    Furthermore, he knows he is misrepresenting me because he praised an article I wrote several months ago:

    How much game should the Christian wife require?

    And also this one:

    Love and loyalty in times of trouble and weakness.

    Additionally, I have never claimed that I stayed with my husband because he games me. Yes, he was extremely adulterous before becoming a Christian. And yes, I forgave him after I accepted Christ, and yes we are still married. Did I stay because he is some kind of uber-alpha? That is other people’s analysis of the situation. Certainly he doesn’t put up with any bad behavior from me, so if that makes him an alpha, so be it. And certainly I do my best to be a respectful and submissive wife. However, I have given the glory and credit to God. All we have done is try to be obedient to Him.

    I don’t tell men whether they should or should not use game, but I certainly do not peddle it.

    • In fact, I have for the past year questioned whether game as taught by pick up artists is moral and licit for Christians to use.

      Saying “game is immoral or anti-Christian” is peddling game. The reason for that is because moral arguments about game automatically concede that game exists and works which is a fallacy.

      I did some actual research on who started game and found that it was nothing more than a scam. Since it’s a scam there is no moral argument about it (other than scams are immoral). Game is nothing but a lie, period. Anything else promotes game even if it’s by accident.

      • Don’t waste your time bp shes only posting because it gets her panties soaked. Maybe she can make another post taking about how much she likes rough sex and then cry when she gets called out. Even fedders had this one figured out quick.

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