46 comments on “The Missing Married Gamers

    • Priceless..simply priceless. Very astute observation. They run the whole thing like a damn cult.

    • I’ve said this many times before, and I’ll say it again…

      – The main thing that disgusts me with these idiots is NOT that they’re idiots, it’s that they DISSAPPEAR when they wake up.

      – I was an idiot myself and member of half these cults MYSELF. However, I stuck around, and I’m here to warn NEW generations. I did not change usernames like a pussy and just disappear (like most of these losers do)

      – In fact, I’m constantly evolving, half the stuff I believed 2-3 years ago, I no longer believe and have evolved past. I do not see a past of stupidity as a source of shame, i see it as proof of maturing. Too bad these other cowards don’t see it the same way… they just disappear due to shame…

      The trouble with the pua community, manosphere and other related cults is that they’re held together by the combination of turnover and cowardly disappearance.

      For example, the PUA community has existed for 10 years, NOT because anyone is dumb enough to buy into that crap for 10 years (most wake up after 1-2 years of membership)…

      The trouble is WHILE they are members, they spend those 2 years recruiting new members, evangelizing and advertising the cult. And then on the morning when they WAKE UP and realize they were an idiot and their belief-system a scam, they don’t announce it, they just disappear leaving behind all their recruits…

      • Not cowardice, just boredom and disinterst. When you wake up you want to get back to your life, not lose more of it to the pua monster. At best you have an obligation to do some small amount of warning, but it is the rare person who has the time or energy to do more. You make a few comments, then you move on. Plus you know from yourself how hard it is to persuade someone deep in the cult. Most people wake up on their own.

        Maybe there needs to be some central registry where ex-pua’s simply make a brief statement.

        • Not cowardice, just boredom and disinterst.

          I’m talking about the deleting blogs, changing usernames part etc… Why not put a sticky post declaring you’ve woken up, and leave the blog up as testament to what you used to believe.

          These guys go out of their way to delete any evidence of their cult involvement. That’s not boredom, that’s purposeful deleting of evidence that one can wake up from the cult.

      • Alek, I think when a lot of disappearances happen, it’s not because they just woke up. In some cases they realized how badly they screwed up, fell into a pit of despair and committed suicide. In other cases, they go even deeper into insanity beyond the so called manosphere. The “edenism” morons are sort of this, but I think I found an example of someone halfway in between to document.

  1. I enjoyed dalrock’s articles from time to time, but he comes dangerously close to implying that marriage can be done if you just make a careful enough selection. the only thing he should ever say about his marriage is that he’s lucky it hasn’t fallen apart yet.

    • Man, BP, I wish this website was the first thing that men found when they started to wake up from feminist nonsense. Handbanana, that is an awesome observation. He doesn’t come dangerously close, he basically spells it right out that for most men, they can have a traditional Marriage 1.0 by being selective of the women they date and maintaining “dominant masculine frame”. The fact that God’s grace is what has held up his marriage is something he conveniently overlooks..cause hey, it’s his blog and he wants the limelight. It’s very eery how people on his blog nearly worship him as a genius and paragon of marriage wisdom. As if he is able to magically turn people’s future marriage prospects into instant success.

      • he basically spells it right out that for most men, they can have a traditional Marriage 1.0 by being selective of the women they date and maintaining “dominant masculine frame”.

        Dalrock isn’t the only one to explicitly say this either. I have seen married manosphere morons insist that they have marriage 1.0/traditional marriages without realizing that their wives can pull the plug on their marriage 1.0 marriages at any time.

        You are right that it is only God’s grace protecting them, and most men aren’t so lucky.

        • That’s how pathetic their need for being “alpha” is. They need to re-assert that they are the top dog. It is often said that you can tell which dog is the weakest because it is the weakest dog that has the loudest bark. Sometimes they HAVE to believe their fantasies because reality is just too harsh for them to come to terms with. They desperately NEED to believe that their wives will stay true to them as long as they have “dominant masculine frame” or “swag” or whatever dumb-ass childishness they call it nowadays. There’s a reason why society had laws to restrict and enforce against adultery and infidelity. It kept people in check.

        • You make an interesting point here – those guys have this need to show, again and again, how “alpha” they supposedly are. Real alpha males don’t think that way. They don’t have to. The only bigger fallacy is Roissy’s notion that being “alpha” means being hostile to the other men around you. Real alpha males aren’t. They’re leaders and are encouraging to those around them, not disparaging of them. Go into any real, hard-core gym – Crossfit gyms are a great example. While away on an extended trip, I worked out in a Crossfit gym owned by a former fighter pilot and his hot athletic wife. They were the nicest people ever. Men whom Roissy would call lowly omegas came into their gym and they were NOTHING BUT POSITIVE, encouraging them with sincerity. That is just one example. There are others all around in our culture. The point is that real alphas have nothing to prove, and are magnanimous and not competitive.

        • That’s a good point. I see the same thing in business which I encounter due to my own one man business. The real alphas in business are just like your Crossfit gym owners, magnanimous and positive towards absolutely everyone. Words like “omega” aren’t in the vocabulary.

        • Just some random info….

          In actual primate groups, the Alpha male does not prove his dominance by attacking or putting down the other males. He does so by arbitrating disputes between other males, breaking up fights and keeping the peace. As monks say, to be above men you must place yourself below them. A leader should serve the people, not vice versa. The end.

        • In actual primate groups, the Alpha male does not prove his dominance by attacking or putting down the other males.

          That’s not the manosphere definition of alpha so as a supporter of the manosphere you don’t get to use it.

  2. Is American Women Suck above the same John Rambo who was spamming Manosphere sites with a fake “Marry Indian Women” website in order to extract money from lonely hapless men?

    The Manosphere seems to be a virtual breeding ground for financial exploiters.

    • Is American Women Suck above the same John Rambo who was spamming Manosphere sites with a fake “Marry Indian Women” website in order to extract money from lonely hapless men?

      No, but it doesn’t matter as there are multiple spammers in the so called manosphere trying to exploit its denizens.

      That being said, I suspect that John Rambo is really Peter Andrew Nolan. If you’re not familiar with Nolan, he’s a believer in a conspiracy theory/scam called “freeman on the land” where you can supposedly renounce your affiliation with any government so that the law doesn’t apply to you. People who have tried this (including Wesley Snipes) have ended up in jail. Of course, to make this work, Nolan will help you if you pay him. So you know its a scam. Even if John Rambo isn’t Peter Andrew Nolan, Rambo is still a co-conspirator in Nolan’s scam since he spams Nolan’s bullshit.

      • Rambo was going around telling everyone that the Georgetown lady was the feminist Conservative….

        I could provide the link but prefer not to drag the accused name through the mud any further…

        • I’m not surprised. Knowing that Rambo is in bed with Nolan (if they aren’t the same person) and that Nolan is mad at MRAs for not falling for his scam, it makes you wonder if this whole thing was done by Rambo/Nolan to entrap MRAs and make us look bad.

        • John Rambo is the guy with the fake Indian mail order bride scam site.

  3. Yeah, it’s pretty foolish to think that ‘game’ could work for anything long-term.

    From what I’ve seen of it, game is basically about building a fake personality that they think will sell to women. Marriage would basically require you to keep that fake personality up forever and prevent your spouse from seeing through it. You’d have to spend an eternity playing mind games.

  4. I can logically conceive that Roosh, though not a looker and not the sharpest knife in the drawer, does get laid from time to time. Like maybe 1 or 2 times a year.

    However does anyone here buy for a second that Matt Forney EVER got laid in his entire life?

    • Seconded, SWAB.

      While what he says is certainly uncomfortable to hear, it’s not without a level of veracity.

      Indeed, that’s the very thing that makes it disquieting.

      Also, I highly doubt I was the only one listening that noticed the way Stardusk’s words echo, sinisterly, Esther Vilar’s observations in ‘The Manipulated Man’.

      Rather, I would like to think I was not.

  5. Hi. I just stumbled across this blog. I read your about page, and I just wanted to clarify.

    You essentially spend your time insulting and degrading other men, specifically those on the manosphere, in order to fight feminism. Is that correct?

      • The Men’s Rights Movement? You mean those whiny, bitter, socially awkward men who cry on each other’s shoulders and try to outvictim each other while mimicking feminists? I assure you I’m not trying to prey on them, considering I wouldn’t want to be in the same room as one of them.

        • You know, if you actually read my blog before making false accusations against me, you would find that I just finished a 3 part series debunking common Red Pill dogma and disagreeing with many of the ideas put forth commonly on the sphere.

          You attack me without cause. Just saying.

        • You know, if you actually read my blog before making false accusations against me, you would find that I just finished a 3 part series debunking common Red Pill dogma and disagreeing with many of the ideas put forth commonly on the sphere.

          Then why are you associated with the manosphere? You’re doing the equivalent of coming here and saying that you’re a member of NOW, but “not a feminist”. I wouldn’t believe that person, and I don’t believe you either. You can’t have it both ways. You are lying about something.

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