49 comments on “The Next Manosphere Meetup Of Doom (And Blog Deletions)

  1. Hey, genius. None of us are PUAs. We aren’t going with the intent of “getting laid” though I can guarantee that I will be getting laid, since I’m bringing my girlfriend of two years with me. TempestTCup is married and bringing her husband, so I bet she will be getting laid as well. So that’s four of us that will be getting laid certain. Want to put money on it?

    Do your research before you start throwing stones. This will be a bunch of men and women with similar beliefs and outlooks having some drinks and enjoyable conversations while we gamble and possibly make some YouTube videos.

    Thanks for the linkage. Jackass.

  2. TBP,

    While I’ve no idea why you wish to make an enemy of me [unless your reasoning is “the friends of my enemies are my enemies, too], I’d at least like to be hated for what I am rather than what I am not.

    I’ve never claimed to be a “PUA”.

    I’ve admitted to being slightly overweight and out of shape.

    I’ve civilly criticized Roissy and Roosh.

    I’ve never opposed nor co-opted nor attempted to undermine the MRM.

    I am almost exclusively the “philosophy” section in manosphere aggregators, rather than being hyperfocused on “game” and such.

    I’ve vocalized my distaste for the “red pill/blue pill” dichotomy.

    My blog may very well “disappear” in the timespan you mention, but I promise you it will not be “mysterious”.

    Likely, it will be because I feel I have nothing further to say.

    Or, due to daily demands getting precedence.

    [ I make no money at this nor do I desire to do such a thing at this time.]

    Respectfully,

    A♠

    • What you’re telling me is that you oppose 95% of what the so called manosphere stands for? So why are you associated with them given that they are a bunch of scammers and con artists (and not even good scammers and con artists)?

      Even Paul Elam understands in principle that avoiding the so called manosphere is a good idea (even if he hasn’t fully implemeted it yet).

      • Paul Elam is a feminine, liberal, socialist failure of a man who tries to beat feminists at their own game by attempting to “out victim” women. I’m embarrassed that we share the sane anatomy.

        By the way, since you claim I cannot pick up women or get laid …I do have pictures of myself and my gf on my blog. Along with pictures of me at work. Stick with facts and avoid fallacies. I see your readers are not jumping in to save you in this thread, since you have done nothing but make false accusations and have avoided answering when your false accusations are proven to be just that.

        Even your own readerships sees that you have made an error in judgement here. Perhaps you should save what little dignity you have left and admit you made an error in your assumption that this gathering of friends was another pathetic PUA conference. To err is human. To continue on in your error despite knowing you are wrong is idiocy.

        • We’re waiting for you to go away and die, dipshit. Every regular reader here knows you, not you personally, but your type. All pseudo non PUAs from the manosphere talk and act exactly the same. Your remarks about Paul Elam are a standard PUA trope. It was a waste of time talking to the first 100 manosphere dipshits. I’m not bothering with manosphere dipshit number 101. I don’t know why BP is bothering with you, but I suppose he has to because its his blog. He doesn’t need me or anyone else to save him.

          You’re from the manosphere so its a guarantee thatyou you’re full of shit. We all get laid more than you (even BP) so you can’t pull a fast one on us. You should stop trying.

        • “We all get laid more than you.”

          Provide proof. I get laid 3-5 times a week by my girlfriend. What is the point of these constant lies and false accusations? It doesn’t make sense to make claims that are very easily proven false. Why do you keep doing it? Why not stick to the truth? Is it that difficult? Do you not have anything to say that isn’t just groundless insults?

        • What’s this “keep lying” about, dipshit? Even if I was lying, I only wrote once to you.

          Talking to you is a waste of time.

  3. I don’t consider myself a PUA blogger either even though I did attend the D.C. meetup because of a personal invite and I could. If you weren’t there, you have no idea what went on, and most who have written about it were extremely circumspect about the festivities that happened there. The reason we’re putting this one together is we’ve all met each other, we can and we can all afford it. This group is like my second family and it’s going to be a blast. One thing you have to remember, this group of people is outcome independent, I could’ve gotten laid when I was visiting the Doc and the Mistress on the Gulf Coast but I was having too much fun hanging out with them. Must suck to have no friends who just on the drop of a hat, say to themselves, “Let’s gather everyone up and go to Vegas.” That’s just the type of people we are.

    • If you weren’t there, you have no idea what went on, and most who have written about it were extremely circumspect about the festivities that happened there.

      So that’s your excuse for a bunch of stories that contradicted each other and all of the subsequent blog deletions?

      This is a joke.

      Must suck to have no friends who just on the drop of a hat, say to themselves, “Let’s gather everyone up and go to Vegas.” That’s just the type of people we are.

      What type of people is that? Chronically Unemployed?

      • You should stop putting your foot in your mouth. It’s embarrassing to watch.

        Chronically unemployed? Mitch is a retired Industrial Inspector, Tempest is self employed in the finance field, and I am a very well off industrial electrician. And….none of us are PUAs.

        Why not just admit you made a mistake and remove foot from mouth? You called out a couple of wealthy lifestyle/philosophy bloggers, several of whom are married or in committed relationships, called us PUAs and insinuated we were unemployed. You haven’t managed to get anything right yet.

        You should do a little more recon before you start trolling. All you have accomplished is looking like a complete fool.

        But keep this post up. I appreciate the whole 9 people who have come to my blog because of it. You don’t have many readers, do you?

        • Mitch is a retired Industrial Inspector, Tempest is self employed in the finance field, and I am a very well off industrial electrician.

          Even if that’s true, you expect me to be impressed by that? I deal with financially successful people all the time in addition to being one, and none of us act like you guys.

          And….none of us are PUAs.

          If you mean that you are incapable of picking up women successfully, then you are arguing against something I never said. Otherwise, you don’t have to be a PUA to support the game scam. It’s not like any of you guys are actually interested in successfully picking up women.

          You called out a couple of wealthy lifestyle/philosophy bloggers, several of whom are married or in committed relationships

          Clearly, you don’t know what the word wealthy means. I know that I am wealthier than all of you combined many multiple times over at least. The reason why I know that is because I deal with actual wealthy people all the time, and none of them act like any of you. They don’t follow obscure forms of dating advice that doesn’t work, or think the FDA is out to get them, or think that condoms are some sort of conspiracy to destabilize male/female relationships.

          But keep this post up. I appreciate the whole 9 people who have come to my blog because of it. You don’t have many readers, do you?

          I only got 2 people coming here from being linked by Return of Kings so I guess I have more readers than Roosh.

          The difference between you and us is that we don’t bother arguing at your blogs since we know trying to reason with all of you is a waste of time.

  4. Hell, I’m not even a blogger. I am, however, a man. A real one. And come hell or high water, will find my way out to Vegas. And you know why?

    Why the fuck not?

    Pathetic. Simply pathetic.

    Go back to your momma’s basement, little boy. The men will be back when we’re done having fun.

      • We? As in you and your 10 virgin readers? Why don’t y’all come out to Vegas. I’ll buy you a hooker. I think you are in desperate need of one. If you don’t relieve backpressure every now and then, the pipes will burst. This is a professional opinion.

        • I fail to see how that is supposed to be insulting. I’m not solipsistic enough to be insulted on behalf of the manosphere. Not to mention….I am in a committed relationship and get laid whenever I want to. You are an illogical, strange little man

        • So, you feel like you are doing something by putting down fellow men who have done nothing to you?

          I have never attempted to invade or subvert your precious MRM. My blog didn’t even start out as a Manosphere blog. They found and adopted me. And I’m glad they did. I have met some of the wisest, most loyal men of my life through the sphere. My life has improved exponentially since they I became a part of it. So why the hate against me and my friends?

          You call us out, saying we will fail to get laid, claim we are unemployed, and predict we will delete our blogs. Why? What is the motive? None of us have any link to your MRM. We are just good friends planning to meet and have a good time. Why do you seek to scorn us for doing this?

          You claim we are unemployed. I counter by saying we have jobs. Simply refuting your statement. Then you accuse me of trying to impress you. I was not, I was simply refuting your erroneous claim.

          You imply we are PUAs by saying we will try and fail to pick up women in Vegas. I say we are not PUAs. You respond by saying you never implied we were. Another fallacy.

          If you are going to continue to judge and belittle us….I say: Show yourself. We show our faces. Many of us use our real names. We are not internet tough guys. We are real people. We are not afraid. If you continue to sling insults from behind your mask of anonymity, I call you coward. Either show your face, stop using ad hominems, and discuss things like a man instead of obfuscating, or admit your cowardice and slink away with your tail between your legs.

          Just don’t take this post down. We are going to have “Meet-up of Doom” shirts made and they would make no sense without your blatant idiocy remaining on display.

        • So, you feel like you are doing something by putting down fellow men who have done nothing to you?

          The manosphere has tried to scam me by selling me false dating advice (game), false diet advice (paleo), & lies about who is behind feminism blaming everyone from the Jews to the Rockefellers, to blacks, etc. except women. That last part is also known as conspiracy theory, white (vagina worshiping) nationalism, & anti-semitism. The manosphere is a vehicle for scams, and I don’t take kindly to con artists attempting to scam me.

          So why the hate against me and my friends?

          By allying yourself with the manosphere, you have allied with known con artists and scammers. I would compare this to allying yourself with the mafia, but the mafia actually gets things done unlike the manosphere.

          Why? What is the motive? None of us have any link to your MRM.

          You people have been invading the MRM for years to the point where even Paul Elam wants nothing to do with (most of) the so called manosphere. You keep trying to scam us. Some of us ignore you. Others like me fight back.

          You claim we are unemployed. I counter by saying we have jobs. Simply refuting your statement. Then you accuse me of trying to impress you. I was not, I was simply refuting your erroneous claim.

          You imply we are PUAs by saying we will try and fail to pick up women in Vegas. I say we are not PUAs. You respond by saying you never implied we were. Another fallacy.

          Gainfully employed people who get laid have no need to get involved in the manosphere’s scams and false dating advice/game.

          If you are going to continue to judge and belittle us….I say: Show yourself. We show our faces. Many of us use our real names. We are not internet tough guys. We are real people. We are not afraid. If you continue to sling insults from behind your mask of anonymity, I call you coward. Either show your face, stop using ad hominems, and discuss things like a man instead of obfuscating, or admit your cowardice and slink away with your tail between your legs.

          I have no clue if those are your real faces (nor do I care). Given that the so called manosphere is a breeding ground for scams, why the hell should I trust you with my real face and name? I know better than to open myself up to an obvious vector for identity theft.

        • What’s with the whole scammer thing? I make no money from blogging. Well, I am not a liar by nature, so … I have made 6 dollars through the Amazon Affiliate program with my book reviews.

          Some Game advice is atrocious. Some of it works. Simple fact. The basis of the Manosphere is a bunch of introverted, nerdy, shy men who have always struck out with women or been afraid to even talk to them. Whether all Game principles are sound or not, by learning and thinking they have an “edge” , these men gain the confidence to actually talk to women and carry themselves with a little pride. That is a game changer for them, all by itself, which will lead to more success. Do you deny this?

          You call us vagina worshipers. You, sir, are a Paul Elam worshiper. How many times are you going to name drop him? Is he your false idol?

          You should repent of your idol worship and walk in Faith. Just saying.

          If I were not gainfully employed, how would Mitch and I pay for an entire floor at the Bellagio, not to mention air fare for us and friends, and nice dinners for over a dozen people? You make no sense. You keep tossing accusations of being unemployed and not getting laid, etc. You claim we do not behave like wealthy people. How do wealthy people behave? Like “Real housewives” and “Jersey Shore”? Material wealth is no indicator of good personality traits.

          And I would say attacking men on the internet that you know nothing about, for the horrible crime of getting together to enjoy each others company, to be patently juvenile behaviour. Is that how wealthy people behave? Really?

          Why is it so hard to admit that you misunderstood the purpose of this meeting of friends as the same as roosh’s little fiasco? If you want to attack us solely for being part of the Manosphere….whatever. I’m at least guilty of that, and will not stop you or complain about it. All I ask is that you not make false claims, like we are going to Vegas to pick up women. Or that we are unemployed. Stick with the truth and I will have no further issue with you. Hate me for what I am, not what I’m not.

        • What’s with the whole scammer thing?

          I did some research, which everyone in the manosphere failed to do, to find out where game, the paleo diet, etc. came from. It turns out that game was started as a scam by Eben Pagan, a member of an online scam group known as The Syndicate. (The Syndicate has already run afoul of the FTC so you can’t expect me to believe that something that came from a member of The Syndicate is legitimate.) The paleo diet also turned out to be a scam started by Joesph Mercola. Mercola has also worked with Eben Pagan so Mercola is linked to the The Syndicate and online scams too. Conspiracy theory turned out to be scam to sell bullshit books and DVDs to gullible people and so on. If you’re not making money from these scams, then you’re a dupe of those who are.

          Some Game advice is atrocious. Some of it works.

          If that’s really the case, then why not throw out of the atrocious game advice? It’s easy enough and would be in your best interests. I will tell you why it doesn’t happen. Because game is a scam.

          these men gain the confidence to actually talk to women

          There’s a million easier ways to do this, and none of them involve being the dupe of a scam.

          You call us vagina worshipers.

          That only applied if you are a white nationalist/supremacist. Are you one?

          You, sir, are a Paul Elam worshiper.

          Are you serious? I get regularly attacked for all of the criticism I level against him and you think I worship Paul Elam?

          If I were not gainfully employed, how would Mitch and I pay for an entire floor at the Bellagio, not to mention air fare for us and friends, and nice dinners for over a dozen people?

          I took a look at Mitch’s website, and it’s filled with conspiracy theories. (I thought the conspiracy theory about how condoms make women unhappy and mentally unstable was really funny.) Based on how I know conspiracy theory is a scam to sell bullshit books and DVDs, I’m guessing he is involved with some conspiracy theory scam somewhere. Or you two are lying.

          How do wealthy people behave?

          They don’t go around making conspiracy theories like Mitch does about a power structure they are a part of. Wealthy people in the U.S. are part of its power structure to varying degrees so making up a conspiracy theory about the U.S. power structure is self incrimination. A wealthy person making up a conspiracy theory is saying to the world that he’s a part of that conspiracy. A wealthy person is not powerless, and only powerless people come up with conspiracy theories like the ones Mitch writes about the power structure of where they live.

          The only reasons for a wealthy person to engage in conspiracy theories are if they’re mentally ill, engaged in a power struggle somewhere (and in this case it means they’re lying), or running a scam (which also means they’re lying).

          The short answer is wealthy people don’t believe in what are colloquially understood as conspiracy theories.

          And I would say attacking men on the internet that you know nothing about, for the horrible crime of getting together to enjoy each others company, to be patently juvenile behaviour. Is that how wealthy people behave? Really?

          You are not accurately describing what I am doing.

          Why is it so hard to admit that you misunderstood the purpose of this meeting of friends as the same as roosh’s little fiasco?

          You linked yourself to the so called manosphere. Thus you have to own all the baggage that comes with it. You don’t get to have it both ways.

      • Whatever, troll boy. A victim of the Manosphere…what a pathetic joke. “The Manosphere”, as if its some monolithic thing controlled by an alien hive mind, some bastard child born from Mystery copulating with yet another bar slut. “Help! I’m stuck in the Manosphere, and I’m incapable of making decisions for myself! But I don’t want to bang idiot drunk chicks in the bathroom for self validation! I am a one dimensional robot!!!!”

        If it wasn’t the Manosphere, it would be something else, someone else, and think but the truth. Next time, in your dark, empty moment of depression, when the nobody you are with the nothing you’ve accomplished is clear in your mind….remember that you only have yourself to blame.

        Your biggest fears are real – everything that you lash yourself with in your self loathing self talk…..is true. Enjoy.

        • Bp remember when the manosphere was influental enough that they had more than two nobodies coming here? What a year of change for the manosphere, it is well and truly dead if it cant manage any more than two nobodies.

          Dalrock can barely crack half of his comment numbers from before, manosphere meetups by nobodies (at least the idiots last year i had heard of).

          Want to be a social club? Have fun. Just dont pretend you are anything more than conspiracy nuts sitting around a table.

  5. Yawn, is it that time of year again already? I wonder if any of these sad sacks will get a vasectomy?

    Just in case right? Hahahahahahah.

  6. John Rambo is over on Return of Court Jesters claiming he lived in India as a Hindu monk for 5 years and also “banged” submissive Indian village girls and that Indian men are “alphas” who don’t let women control them.

    However just a few months ago I found him on an ISKCON (Hare Krishna) blog as a newbie asking questions.

    Had he really lived in India he would know that Indian men live with their mothers their entire lives and are completely controlled by them and marry whoever their moms tell them to even if they don’t want to and even if they love someone else.

    Also, India is an arranged marriage culture. “Submissive Indian village girls” are not even dating, so hooking up and banging some foreigner dude is out of the question.

    Also, he had collaborated with some smarmy Indian dude and they created a fake site for Indian mail order brides with fake photos wherein just to email them you had to pay money with your credit card.

  7. meh, I believe that there will plenty of good times to be had by the attendees, after-action reports, and business as usual.

    If you took the time to read the blogs in question, you’d know that they are more about healthy debate on the reality of our world.

    One year from now, all the blogs listed will be going strong as they are now.

  8. you know, i’ve commented here before, and i don’t think i’ve said a unkind word against you. you’re a grown man- live your life in the manner you deem best so long as it doesn’t harm others.

    given that……speaking ill of me. dude, c’mon man: WTF is up with that? my site exists to simply help guys that want to do better at attracting women. you’re REALLY gonna give me shit for that?

  9. Speaking of Eben Pagan, this is from his wife’s website;

    Annie Lalla has spent her life studying the labyrinthine world of emotions -mapping the complexities of communication & subtleties of relationships.

    A philosopher, speaker and a thought leader, Annie is known as the “Cartographer of Love”.

    With an Honors Science Degree, major in Human Biology & Philosophy (minor in Buddhism), her studies include integrative psychology, evolutionary science, neurochemistry, therapeutic sexuality & systems dynamics. Alongside explorations in mystic poetry, classic literature & metaphoric narrative are professional certifications in NLP, Coaching & Hypnosis. All these realms converge in her unique Relationship Coaching practice. There, she helps individuals attract, create and foster extraordinary connections that maximize freedom and minimize shame.

    Specializing in love, sex & conflict resolution, Annie teaches her signature method: ‘The Art of Fighting’. She sees conflict as a crucial part of intimacy development. ”Arguments are opportunities to understand your partner better, when handled with maturity & skill they can be used to bring you closer instead of farther apart.”

    Annie has created a suite of practical tools that help clients resolve toxic patterns, develop romantic esteem, diffuse conflict, assuage shame/blame and cultivate deep, resilient relationships that last a lifetime.

    Link;
    http://www.annielalla.com

  10. Dr Illusion said on another blog that he’s 27 and is making a 6 figures salary as an electrician. I’ve checked the stats about electricians. The mean wage is between $44,600 and $81,800 a year and 90% of electricians make less than $82,930 a year. And I’m sure most of these electricians are older than 27.

    http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes472111.htm

    And now you know why he calls himself “Dr Illusion”. 🙂

      • I notice the little feminist trolls here are still playing. While you dumb shits are generally great at driving traffic and paying my bills, this is getting annoying. I know you’ve googled who I really am, what I’ve helped to build, and what I do for a living, I’m going to give you all the benefit of the doubt that you can connect the dots and know that there is no bragging or posturing here. I’ve noticed a general lack of mocking in my direction, which is a good career survival instinct. I do not make threats or demands, I have expectations that will be followed.

        Go back and play in your little 4chan world. Embarrassing the impotent is easy. This is not what you’ve fallen into here. Choose wisely.

        Gentlemen, I would suggest we take leave and let the misfits drown in their own spittle. Life’s too short to be soiled by this filth.

      • What is “wealth”? Numbers in your monthly bank statement? An overpriced car parked in the garage of an overpriced house, both of which are likely keeping you in debt? A big-screen TV beaming you worthless messages about a fake life most people shouldn’t bother to attain?

        The more you need, the more you work, the more you feed a system that is holding you down.

        If you know what you’re doing, and from what I gather, Doc does, $100k per year on the dot is “fuck you” money.

        • I own my car and my home outright. No loans whatsoever.

          Fuck you money is around $10 million in assets not $100K in income. You manospherians are idiots if you don’t even know the difference between income and assets.

  11. Hey, first time reader here. Can I get your email? I’d like to send you a few private comments.

  12. Dr. Illusion says:
    June 27, 2013 at 8:06 am
    “Paul Elam is a feminine, liberal, socialist failure of a man who tries to beat feminists at their own game by attempting to “out victim” women”

    I like how so many of the manosphere will be the first to point out feminist shaming language and how feminists use it to try and shut up the people who don’t agree with them. The manosphere pouts that it’s not intellectually honest, etc. and then they use the exact same tactics.
    How many times have you read, after they’ve been challenged logically/factually/etc, them resort to screaching “you’re just a femininst/mangina/leftard/white-hating/socialist/not a man/etc., etc.”

  13. Well, any of you guys think this is the meeting of doom show up at the Bellagio anytime during the week of October 6-13th and ask for me at the front desk. It’s gonna hurt when your opinion is changed.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s