24 comments on “Why Is This My Job?

  1. oh knoes rooshiepoopooh is leaving teh man-0-sphere…

    http://www.rooshv.com/the-manosphere-is-lost

    “(I apologize in advance to the large number of neo-Nazis in the manosphere for comparing them to a man of non-Aryan race.) It’s hard for me to accept that the manosphere is well on its way to becoming a match.com for old people who hate blacks.”

    wait, wait, does this mean he won’t be all, no I’m really a white guy with a tan, as GL Piggy, I’m reaaaallllly high on the HBD scale. Jack Don-0-vam and Matt Forney let me sit between them in a hot-tub…

    or is he gonna go all full on Schwyzer….

    only time will tell, only time will tell…

      • No one’s said that yet, but I have heard some manosphere gamers (including one who came to comment here) now flipping the script and claiming that the Minter thing is a victory and a vindication for manosphere gamers. They’re doing this by now calling Minter an MRA or a MGTOW and saying that Minter’s behavior is proof that MRAs and MGTOWs are full of shit, unlike manosphere gamers. Never mind that Minter was an avid supporter of game and the Manosphere was proudly claiming Minter not only as one of their own but as one of their idols.

        It’s kind of funny in a tragic way what lengths these guys will go through to avoid ever having to admit a mistake.

        • I have noticed that the major blogs of the so called manosphere are now attacking what they call “manospambots”. As far as I can tell it’s a blanket attack on what might be considered “rank and file” manospherians like Mark Minter who comment (or even just lurk) but don’t have a blog. The top tier bloggers of the manosphere are now trying to dump everything they have done wrong on their readership. I don’t know how long it will take but this will kill the manosphere as we know it because except for a small echo chamber who is going to want to read blogs like that.

  2. I don’t see what the big deal is. You sound like the feminist atheists who claim you can’t be a real atheist unless you buy into feminism and all other kinds of “social justice”. I don’t believe in game, or fad diets, or conspiracies, but so what?

    Just compare the number of feminists and feminist communities to anti-feminist communities. Look how much media exposure they have. Call it red pill or manosphere, but at this point I would welcome anybody to join the fight, kooks, conspiracy theorists, gamers, white nationalists, women, anybody. This kind of weird infighting is probably why feminism will never be overcome in the West.

    • hehe,

      I think the mistake you are making is considering the enemy of your enemy your friend…

      Just look at how White Nationalists tried to overtake certain “men’s rights” areas. How can a WN be for Men’s rights wen he doesn’t even see many other men as fully human? (You could also make a similar argument against Black Panthers if they were trying to penetrate the MRM.)

      PE foolishly supported Inmalafide while Mattinand Fornimu was shitting all over him. The irony was like a feminazi berating incel men with the Nice Guy label while her “alpha” boyfriend beats the shit outta her every night. (and for those who intentionally like to misread things, I am not advocating domestic violence.)

    • Holy shit that’s ridiculous. Both Schwyzer and the author of the article. That’s the same dummy who BP profiled for writing a ridiculous article saying Newt Gingrinch was the PUA of politics lol. I like how he says the Atlantic didn’t accept his article pitch because he’s not well-known enough. Given the fact that he’s a rabid racist crackpot manospherian, being better known would only hurt him in mainstream media rather than help him. Good find Peterman.

      • hahahaha,

        if it’s true that FP is Roissy (one of them?) then it is funnier than shit that FP shits on Chuckster harder than anyone else while Chuckster is on Roisy’s dick harder than Elam was on Ferdinand’s while Forney insulted MRA’s so much that Manboobz wanted to give him a sweaty manhug.

        “rabid racist crackpot manospherian”

        no, no, no Grizzly, he is not racist, it’s HBD. It’s like totally phrenology for teh 90’s, oh, wait 2000’s. Like don’chya know, purebred aryan men like Chuckiepoops hunted teh mamoth so we could all eat and the only reason he isn’t a millionaire is because of affirmative action, or was it because the Republican guy didn’t win. Never mind that his critical thinking skills are closer to Amanda Marcotte’s than not. (oh, yeah, I’d rather not talk about race but I seriously didn’t believe in white privilege until I read Chuck Ross and A-Man-Duh Marcotte.)

        Alt-right–what feminism is to lazy women with a chip on their shoulder Chuckiepoops is to subpar guys with a worthless degree and no real desire to get their hands dirty.

  3. Stumbled on your blog almost accidentally. And probably won’t be back. But from my brief perusal of some posts, this post neatly encapsulates why I won’t be back.

    Why is it your job?

    Because you are a human being living in a complex society and if you are an intelligent human being, you exercise discernment every day. The “red pill” “manosphere” is not a monolithic thing, it’s composed of a large number of men who have different opinions. Not all of them are going to agree and present you with a neat package you can get your mind around.

    The “red pill” is a metaphor. It’s a starting point, not a destination. It’s a metaphor for men realizing the fundamental lies they’ve swallowed for years or a lifetime. Once the scales fall from the eyes–“taking the red pill”–one moves on building something new. Don’t like the paleo-diet? Don’t follow it. I’ve never seen anyone insist that you “can’t be ‘red pill'” if you don’t eat paleo. It’s not a bad dietary choice, given that it’s based on non-processed, fresh food, but it’s not a requirement. Don’t like “Game”? Don’t follow it. Though it’s move well beyond it’s PUA origins and is approaching a level of masculine self-improvement. Don’t believe conspiracy theories? Then don’t believe them. I don’t. Take what you need and leave the rest.

    I get why you don’t like those things. You have a specific vision of a “men’s rights movement” that is a single unified front that will confront and defeat feminism. Not a bad goal, but if you think that anyone is anywhere near that, you, sir, are the mentally unbalanced one. Which is why I would vehemently disagree with your blog tag line. Feminism is a powerful systemic problem, but there can be no systemic response without a huge number of personal solutions first. That you disdain and scorn those working on personal solutions instead of following your specific ideas of a systemic front is why you get no traction; it’s why you fail.

    You want to storm the barricades of feminism? Stop alienating potential allies just because you disagree with the details or because they won’t bow to your personal vision.

    Why is it your job? Because if you’re not willing to do the work to sift the good ideas from the bad, instead demanding pre-made solutions you already agree with, your advocacy is nothing more than more wind on the internet.

    • Why is it your job?

      Because you are a human being living in a complex society and if you are an intelligent human being, you exercise discernment every day. The “red pill” “manosphere” is not a monolithic thing, it’s composed of a large number of men who have different opinions. Not all of them are going to agree and present you with a neat package you can get your mind around.

      There’s this thing called reality. It doesn’t care about your personal opinions. Whether game works, the paleo diet works, and conspiracy theory is true is a matter determined by objective reality not personal opinion. If you disagree with reality, you have a mental problem.

      It’s a metaphor for men realizing the fundamental lies they’ve swallowed for years or a lifetime

      What fundamental lies? I have been lied to by the red pill manosphere as much as I have been lied to by feminists.

      Don’t like the paleo-diet? Don’t follow it. I’ve never seen anyone insist that you “can’t be ‘red pill’” if you don’t eat paleo. It’s not a bad dietary choice, given that it’s based on non-processed, fresh food, but it’s not a requirement.

      Thousands of diets are based on “non-processed, fresh food”. The paleo diet is defined by what makes is unique not by how its similar to a thousand other diets.

      Whether the paleo diet works or not is a question for scientific study and such study shows that it doesn’t work. Plus, the history of the paleo diet shows that it is a scam. These are the facts which can’t be overriden by personal opinion.

      “Game”? Don’t follow it. Though it’s move well beyond it’s PUA origins and is approaching a level of masculine self-improvement.

      Again, whether game works is a matter of scientific study of its results or rather lack of results. It doesn’t work and the history of it shows that it’s nothing more than a scam. These are the facts and talking about vague poorly defined concepts like “masculine self improvement” are nothing but an attempt to obfuscate the facts.

      Don’t believe conspiracy theories? Then don’t believe them. I don’t.

      Conspiracy theories make serious accusations against many individuals and groups of corruption, extreme criminal behavior including pedophilia and child molestation, and plotting massive genocide. These accusations have no real evidence making them slander (if spoken) and/or libel (if written). Conspiracy theorists make false accusations against many individuals and groups, and they don’t get to avoid responsibility for them by acting like they’re personal opinion.

      Take what you need and leave the rest.

      There is no such thing because the manosphere ideas are all intertwined together as mutually reinforcing scams.

      Why is it your job? Because if you’re not willing to do the work to sift the good ideas from the bad

      Why are there any bad ideas in the manosphere? If you manospherians are actually interested in helping men, you would have already done this. Since you haven’t, then I can only conclude what you are trying to do is run a scam.

      • Why are there any bad ideas in the manosphere? If you manospherians are actually interested in helping men, you would have already done this.

        As I noted, you want someone else to do the work you are unwilling or incapable of doing. The manosphere as undoubtedly already helped many men, myself included. Rediscovering what is now called Game has improved my life in many ways. My version of a paleo-diet (not really a “manosphere” creation anyway) has allowed me to lose and keep off 45 lbs for two years. Some “scam.”

        But, since the manosphere hasn’t achieved the nearly Marxian spiritual purity you demand to match your own opinions, I guess you’ll just sit here in your dark corner of the web, complaining into a void.

        I’ll leave you and your omega virgins to it, secure in the knowledge that your “black pill” leads only to a blackness of the soul.

        Have fun, boys…

        • I thought you were never coming back.

          As I noted, you want someone else to do the work you are unwilling or incapable of doing.

          No, I want you people to stop pretending your bullshit doesn’t stink. If all you manospherians know there are bad ideas in the so called manosphere, why don’t you purge them? It only benefits your supposed good ideas to do it. The only reason for you not to do it is if you’re trying to obfuscate what you are about to scam men.

          The manosphere as undoubtedly already helped many men, myself included. Rediscovering what is now called Game has improved my life in many ways. My version of a paleo-diet (not really a “manosphere” creation anyway) has allowed me to lose and keep off 45 lbs for two years. Some “scam.”

          I have seen Scientologists say the same thing.

          But, since the manosphere hasn’t achieved the nearly Marxian spiritual purity you demand to match your own opinions,

          It’s not about purity. It’s about challenging your bullshit. I’m holding you people accountable for your attempt to scam men.

  4. I have seen a very odd argument from anti-femnists, MRAs, etc. It goes, “Sure there is a lot of bullshit in anti-feminism/MRA, but you have separate the bullshit from the truth”. I ask, “why is this my job?” Why did the anti-feminists and MRAs let their communities get so out of hand? Why don’t they get rid of the bullshit from their communities instead of telling me I have to search through it?

    • MRAs have been getting rid of the bullshit from our communities. Even Paul Elam has (nearly completely) rejected the so called manosphere. They keep invading so we are constantly telling the white vagina nationalists, the Roissyite gamers, the alt right, etc. to take a hike. Beyond that MRAs like Stephen Baskerville and Glenn Sacks have no interaction with the so called manosphere so their MRM communities are already free of bullshit.

      No MRA has said that you need to separate the bullshit from the truth because we are doing it for you. It’s just a continual process since the MRM is constantly under assault.

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