42 comments on “In Conspiracy Theory Women Have No Agency

  1. But of course women have no agency. Feminism would have gotten no traction were it not for the connivance and patronage of men. Men control society and everything about it and women can do nothing without the active and willing consent of men.

    It is respect for this basic biological fact that makes even the dimmest conspiracy theorist perceive that a conspiracy with women as its main actors would lack plausibility.

    Women are the weaker sex, and its silly to think they can be like men and do the things men can and do. I see denial of this basic fact more and more on this side of the manosphere, with AlekNovy’s absurd quest to challenge female “laziness”, as if being weaker and more timid is not biological and women can be just like men if the culture was just tweaked a bit.

      • It’s funny, I was going to add that just because women are the weaker sex doesn’t mean chivalrous attitudes to them are necessary. In Asia the weakness and inferiority of women is acknowledged but no one is chivalrous towards them – they are simply treated as inferior. I didn’t say that because I thought that was obvious.

        Any position predicated on the equality of the sexes is retarded and any effort based on that notion is doomed to failure, but the range of possible positions based on the reality of female inferiority is not limited to white knighting, and it’s sad that people can’t see that.

    • But of course women have no agency. Feminism would have gotten no traction were it not for the connivance and patronage of men. Men control society and everything about it and women can do nothing without the active and willing consent of men.

      This is the frontman fallacy. How do you not know that women not having agency isn’t a trick that women pulled on you?

      Women are the weaker sex, and its silly to think they can be like men and do the things men can and do.

      Women manipulate manginas into doing what they can’t do.

      this side of the manosphere

      This blog is not part of the so called manosphere.

      • Maybe it’s the frontman fallacy, anything is possible. But in the absence of certainty, all anyone one can do is draw on his range of experience, knowledge, and intuition, and in my view, all of that strongly suggests women have no agency and it is men who make things happen, for better or worse.

        It’s a female conceit – and wish fullfilment thinking on their part – that they can manipulate manginas into doing their bidding. Granted it happens, but its small scale, even tiny scale and only in trivial matters. In the large things men determine everything. Women are ultimately powerless and must suffer what men decide for them.

        Right, you’re not part of the manosphere, I forgot. But you are partly defined by your relationship to the manosphere, so you are relevant to each other.

        • It’s a female conceit – and wish fullfilment thinking on their part – that they can manipulate manginas into doing their bidding.

          I see this happen ALL THE TIME. This is why people regard conspiracy theorists as insane. I can easily disprove what you’re saying by walking outside and observing the interactions between men and women.

        • Putting the main blame for feminism entirely on women is wrong because even today the powerful people in society even today they are much more likely to be men, look at the politicians, look at the CEOs, look at the engineers and the scientists, look at the army, look at even the colleges, hotbeds of feminism though they are, mostly have male presidents. Men make the world go around. Yes, women manipulate men ALL THE TIME, but it is mostly for personal, rather than political, reasons.

        • Black Pill, is what I said not accurate? I don’t disagree with them that the earth goes ’round the sun either.

      • “This is the frontman fallacy. How do you not know that women not having agency isn’t a trick that women pulled on you?”

        Talk about conspiracy theories…

        • It’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s a rhetorical question to point out how conspiracy theorists don’t consider alternate explanations that are more likely than conspiracy theories.

  2. “Jews, Illuminati, bankers, cultural marxists, and many other groups are accused of secretly ruling the world in conspiracy theory.”

    Cultural Marxists do run the world. No one ever said they do it secretly. The amnesty and immigration surge bill is not a secret. Affirmative action is not a secret. Feminism is not a secret. Neo-con wars are not a secret. It’s all out there.

    “Women are responsible for feminism, but conspiracy theory targets any and every group other than women because conspiracy theorists believe women have no agency.”

    Because while feminism was arguably created by women, it is in power, in the universities, in the government, in the corporations, because of men. Look up what happened in the sixties, it was cultural Marxist men who handed over power to the feminist women. If men wanted to we could seize back power in a day, the problem is the men in power do not represent men at large. We have to look at these men, who are they and what are their motivations? If you look at these men you will find that a very large portion of them are Jewish. This is not a conspiracy theory, this is a verifiable fact. Of course that is not to suggest that we should hold Jews collectively responsible for the problem, we should also recognize the positive affects Jews have had on our civilization.

    • The term, “cultural marxist”, has a real definition, and it isn’t people who disagree with you.

      Because while feminism was arguably created by women

      Even just saying this means you disagree massively with conspiracy theorists (assuming you actually believe feminism was created by women) so why are you advocating the conspiracy theorist position on feminism?

      it was cultural Marxist men who handed over power to the feminist women

      Those aren’t cultural marxists. Those are manginas, and they have always been serving women. It didn’t start in the 60s.

      • “The term, “cultural marxist”, has a real definition, and it isn’t people who disagree with you.”

        I don’t remember defining it as people who disagree with me.

        “Even just saying this means you disagree massively with conspiracy theorists (assuming you actually believe feminism was created by women) so why are you advocating the conspiracy theorist position on feminism?”

        I don’t remember advocating the “conspiracy theory position.” I don’t agree with you either.

        “Those aren’t cultural marxists. Those are manginas, and they have always been serving women. It didn’t start in the 60s.”

        Here is the Wikipedia definition of cultural marxism:

        Cultural Marxism refers to a school or offshoot of Marxism that conceives of culture as central to the legitimation of oppression, in addition to the economic factors that Karl Marx emphasized. An outgrowth of Western Marxism (especially Antonio Gramsci and the Frankfurt School) and finding popularity in the 1960s as cultural studies, Cultural Marxism argues that what appear as traditional cultural phenomena intrinsic to Western society, for instance the drive for individual acquisition associated with capitalism, nationalism, the nuclear family, gender roles, race and other forms of cultural identity; are historically recent developments that help to justify and maintain hierarchy. Cultural Marxists use Marxist methods (historical research, the identification of economic interest, the study of the mutually conditioning relations between parts of a social order) to try to understand the complexity of power in contemporary society and to make it possible to criticise what, cultural Marxists propose, appears natural but is in fact ‘ideological’.

        Tell me again that those people aren’t cultural Marxists.

        • I don’t remember defining it as people who disagree with me.

          You said, “Cultural Marxists do run the world. No one ever said they do it secretly. The amnesty and immigration surge bill is not a secret. Affirmative action is not a secret. Feminism is not a secret. Neo-con wars are not a secret. It’s all out there.” George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, & Donald Rumsfeld (since you mentioned neocons) would be very surprised to find out that they are cultural marxists. They certainly don’t meet the dictionary/wikipedia definition. From this I gathered that you were using a different definition.

          I don’t remember advocating the “conspiracy theory position.”

          Since what you’re saying requires the entire political establishment of the Western world to be “cultural marxists”, that is a conspiracy theory.

        • “George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, & Donald Rumsfeld (since you mentioned neocons) would be very surprised to find out that they are cultural marxists. They certainly don’t meet the dictionary/wikipedia definition. From this I gathered that you were using a different definition.”

          They pretty much fit with the dictionary definition if you look at their ideology. They use the word “conservative” in the same way as the Soviet’s used the term “Republic.” If you look at the history of neo-conservativism it is full of former admitted marxists who later changed their economic views somewhat but kept their cultural views. Their support for mass immigration and interventionist war shows that, those were not conservative principles in any meaningful sense of the word before the seventies. Just look at the way James Watson was treated by the neo-cons and it is clear that they agree with cultural marxism.

          “Since what you’re saying requires the entire political establishment of the Western world to be “cultural marxists”, that is a conspiracy theory.”

          A conspiracy theory is based on secrecy. The rulers hide nothing, they openly brag about what they want to do to America, and their actions fit well with cultural marxism. It occurs in both parties, look at the Republicans and Democrats Tories and Labour, ect, nothing really changes when the parties switch power. Only a few brave people such as Ron Paul are opposing their agenda. You have said many times that the government is largely run by feminists. Is that a conspiracy theory?

        • If you look at the history of neo-conservativism it is full of former admitted marxists

          George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, & Donald Rumsfeld have never been Marxists.

          former admitted marxists

          That’s called getting mugged by reality. It happens to leftists when their ideology fails which is fairly often. There’s nothing nefarious about it.

          The rulers hide nothing, they openly brag about what they want to do to America

          I have seen many self described conspiracy theorists say that so saying something is out in the open doesn’t mean you’re not a conspiracy theorist.

          You have said many times that the government is largely run by feminists. Is that a conspiracy theory?

          No, it’s result of women as a voting bloc.

        • Its cute to hear the Alex Jones contingent rant on and on about cultural marxism but for the one-in-a-million conspiracy theorist who doesn’t define themselves in opposition to some group they are welcome to read a critique of the current culture from a cultural marxist. If they take the time to read it (they wont) they will spend far more time agreeing with the critique than disagreeing with it:

        • If they take the time to read it (they wont) they will spend far more time agreeing with the critique than disagreeing with it:

          Of course they will. I have noticed that conspiracy theorists are all socialists. The only reason they aren’t considered left wing is because many of them hate Jews and blacks.

        • “George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, & Donald Rumsfeld have never been Marxists.”

          They are not the entirety of neo-conservatism. I was speaking more of the intellectuals.

          ” have seen many self described conspiracy theorists say that so saying something is out in the open doesn’t mean you’re not a conspiracy theorist.”

          You’re defining conspiracy theory by what the conspiracy theorists say?

          “No, it’s result of women as a voting bloc.”

          Not really. If you look at the gender gap it is much less than the race-religion gap. Whether or not the Dems win, nothing ever changes with regard to feminism.

          I’ve read cultural marxists works before, it’s strange that you are recommending me read one because those same cultural marxists would think you insane.

          “Of course they will. I have noticed that conspiracy theorists are all socialists. The only reason they aren’t considered left wing is because many of them hate Jews and blacks.”

          I believe in America, a mixed capitalist-socialist system would be best. I don’t hate Jews, Jews have contributed much to America. I don’t hate individual Blacks but I don’t want to live in a country full of them, I don’t want them to turn my land into Detroit.

      • Even just saying this means you disagree massively with conspiracy theorists (assuming you actually believe feminism was created by women) so why are you advocating the conspiracy theorist position on feminism?
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        Funny how, as an anti-feminist, it never occurs to me that reality can only be one way or another on this.

  3. You have said many times that the government is largely run by feminists. Is that a conspiracy theory?

    No, it’s result of women as a voting bloc.
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    same difference

  4. “Cultural Marxism refers to a school or offshoot of Marxism that conceives of culture as central to the legitimation of oppression”
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    Of course the term ‘rape culture’ OBVIOUSLY has no connection with any of this!

  5. The Dread Pirate Roissy is at it again. Now he’s claiming that if Hitler had game, the Holocaust could have been prevented!

    http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/08/26/hitler-was-beta/

    Chateau Heartiste has written that game can save the West. Disbelievers scoff. But if this outpost of sanity had been around during Hitler’s flowering youth to enlighten him about the nature of the fairer sex, the West might very well have been saved. Saved not just from war and genocide, but from every evil — cultural Marxism, feminism, equalism, and now racial self-annihilationism — that has come after.

    On the bright side, I guess Roissy isn’t as far off into white nationalism as we feared since he can admit there was a Holocaust at all.

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  7. Cultural “Marxism” may have started as a Jewish conspiracy against Christian Europe, but now it morphs into a Muslim conspiracy against the Judeo-Christian West.
    This is because patrilinearity is sexy to women; Jewish men are more willing to convert and marry Christian women and raise the children as Jews than the other way around, and Muslim men are even more willing to convert and marry Jewish and Christian women and raise the children as Muslims.

    http://www.theantifeminist.com has a lot to say about Sexual Trade Union/Muslim chastitiy synergy/intersectionality.

    And this is the bomb:
    http://puahate.com/showthread.php?p=1321140

    “I’m sure the popularity of circumcision shows how much mothers dominate their sons in some cultures.

    It became fashionable because women prefer it. Some need it for medical reasons, but it’s only 2-1σ. And then, we can hypothesise, the preference of some fashionable and powerful women, who would bribe the tribal doctors to do it to their sons, became the norm, through their sons, who would take the highest positions in the tribes, which were often religious positions. And the sons would create retroactive justifications for the norm which were ridiculous insofar as they did everything to avoid mentioning women, because being dominated by your mother is not something you want to admit.

    The main effect of having a foreskin is that it makes masturbation better than sex. Masturbation feels better than sex (and far better than sex with a condom) to me, because the sensation from the nerves on the inner side of the foreskin. Therefore, circumcision increases women’s sexual power, and it increases the importance of intercourse. The impact is an inversion of the effect of us (men) passing a law banning vibrators.

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  9. Of course if “women” are supposed to take all the blame for feminism, why is it that Jewish women are so over represented in intellectual feminism? Could it be that it has something to do with their Jewishness?

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  11. “Either women are responsible for feminism or they aren’t. It’s only one way or the other.”

    So the men who openly support feminism are not responsible for it? They have no agency? You are doing exactly what you accuse your enemies of doing, this time with men.

    • It’s clear from the context that I’m talking about the original creation of feminism, but you’re too stupid to figure that out. There’s a reason why we call men who support feminism, manginas.

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