72 comments on “The Manuresphere’s Demographic Time Bomb

  1. a very small complaint, I wouldn’t put “lifting” with “game” as working out does have actual benefits regardless of if it gets you laid. That being said, I have noticed Craptain Captalism and Roosh shit on anything that isn’t in their narrow focus of interest. If a guy has a cool hobby like playing guitar-it’s beta unless it gets him poooosy.

    • I wouldn’t put “lifting” with “game” as working out does have actual benefits regardless of if it gets you laid.

      True, but lifting isn’t going to save you from a false rape charge despite what the manuresphere says. It also won’t save you from a woman who complains that you look similar to her alleged rapist.

  2. anyways I should be glad at this point that Roosh and the manuresphere has infiltrated AVfM. Hehe, or is penetrated a better word than infiltrate? If they brought Jackie boi Donovan anlong, ya know..

    They are both on sinking ships and it’s an opportunity to discuss things without being held back…

    That’s essentially what Barbarosssa was saying. Don’t address points unless they are reasonable. IE when trady con M(h)RA’s start saying you are ugly/have a micropenis/are a misogynist ™ –they don’t have any ammo and they are effectively feminists…

  3. I have no words for that article you linked to, BP. The male student looks like her rapist and is now barred from campus? What the actual fuck. Apparently falsely accusing men you randomly pick from Facebook isn’t enough anymore**…now if a completely different man miles away from the crime has the “gall” to look similar to your rapist, you’re allowed to destroy his present and future life. What could be next?

    ** http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2348532/The-woman-accused-stranger-Facebook-rape–ruined-victims-life.html

  4. It was pretty funny how Rooshiepoops complained about MGTOW’s/millenials being “lazy.” Next he’s gonna talk history and say that slaves whose shovels “accidentaly” broke were being “uppity.” He does talk like a cranky old fart.

  5. The problem with these guys is that they are trying to be ‘gurus’ of a sort. They want to be ‘that guy’ everyone goes to for everything.

    That shit is so 20th century. For the most part people enjoy what they enjoy and let it go. I’ve read a lot of manosphere stuff over the years, some guys were ok, most were tools. I laughed when they were funny and kept all the good info (what little there was to be had) but I never saw them as anything other than people.

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  7. What about men who work hard and still refuse to give their resources to women, are they lazy? lolol

    Only a fool buys into a system that is designed to fuck him over.

  8. Yikes, that is horrible about the student in Oregon.

    I am very into fitness and health myself and think it’s a great past time. Funny enough, on Roosh’s terrible site, returnofkings, most of the fitness advice is awful. I can tell right away most of them have no clue what they’re talking about.

    I find the funniest thing about manospherians is the fact that they constantly brag about how “alpha” they are lol.

    Makes sense for Roosh to make a bigotry comment about being “lazy”. I think he’s said before that when guys talk about sports instead of pussy he thinks they’re gay. Or, could it be that guys have other things on their mind than banging women all day?

  9. Older men were able to enjoy most of their lives before feminism really went into overdrive, while younger men never were afforded the same opportunity. This generational gap is what fuels older guys like Aaron Clarey to label young MGTOW as losers. To a guy like Clarey, dating is still nothing more than fun and games, because that is how it was for the most part when he was young. Younger men have so many more obstacles and dangers to deal with in today’s world. Thanks to social media sites like Facebook and online dating, women have access to hundreds of cocks 24/7. So if you aren’t Mr. Perfect, do something to piss her off, or aren’t willing to jump through any hoops, she has hundreds of other guys on deck she can choose from. Not only that, but dating is essentially criminal for most men. Sexual harassment and false rape charges are very real. It is easy for guys like Clarey to be armchair generals when it isn’t their asses on the line. All it takes is asking out a woman on a date, saying hello, or just being “creepy” to get you in trouble with the law. You could be the most harmless man in the world, and it won’t matter.

    I remember their used to be tons of generational flame wars in the comment section of The Spearhead when it came to MGTOW. When younger men would say they didn’t want to go to college because of the misandry, or weren’t interested in working in workplace environments that were misandric, most of the older men would lose their minds. The older men would call the younger men “pussies” and “lazy.” I remember that whenever younger men would have a gripe about feminism, some of the older men on that website would accuse them of “whining.” After Bill Price re-married, he even composed an article telling men to “grow up.” He even went as far as to post an article telling men of the manosphere to stop criticizing women.

    Younger men understand it is a Woman’s World, and most women don’t want them in it, unless it is to do the shitty jobs that women consider so far beneath them. So yeah, is it any wonder young men don’t want to be a part of that world. I mean, if young men are going to be treated like third-class citizens, then why should they participate in a world that hates their guts. By the way, all this could go away tomorrow if women decided to treat men like human beings. But most young men realize women don’t give a damn about them. Women just want to exploit them. If things are ever going to change, it is up to the young men to stop playing the game, because the rules of the game are fixed against them. Women are never going to care about men, so it is a waste of time to try and convince them otherwise.

    • “This generational gap is what fuels older guys like Aaron Clarey to label young MGTOW as loser”

      Not really. He is of the generation that was hit hardest by feminism. He is just a massive mangina.

  10. I’m not a millennial at all, far from it but even I realize that risk/reward ratios are screwed up badly. MGTOW for many is the sensible approach

    You’d think others in the older groups could understand the basic economic and social realities but apparently not.

    It seems to me much of the manosphere is stuck on past manliness modes, “notch counts” “chasing women” “work” “cars” “money” “status” that kind of thing . Also its dominated by preservation oriented conservatives who are trying to preserve or even reverse the damage done to the culture which I really doubt is possible.

    The lack of understanding is partially while communication can be difficult, so many of them using rather silly shaming language and simply can’t talk to younger men as they don’t have a deep enough understanding or have too much emotional investment in what they think they understand.

    Most don’t even understand that they don’t understand with Bill Whittle and Andrew Klavan being exceptions, they may not understand but they at least in a recent interview with a millennial and Dr. Helen they admitted they don’t which means they could learn.

    However to defend them and my peers a bit, they are getting older and would like to actually have a functioning society and the real outcome of broad based MGTOW an engineered collapse into a Dark Age scares the heck of out any sane person, me included.

    • Obviously, there are non-millennials who get it, just as there are millennials who don’t.

      I get that you and other older guys want a functioning society. However, more anti-MGTOW shaming and bullshit is just convincing more and more millennial men to GTOW. Old men are not stopping the collapse of society by being anti-MGTOW. They’re accelerating it.

      • For the record I enjoy your blog quite a bit and relate to it better than you might think. Maybe its because I’m not that terribly old , not as old as Klavan or Whittle say . Or maybe being an unmarried and somewhat MGTOW myself as well as unwilling to settle for a used up 30 something am in much the same boat as many a millennial .My income isn’t wonderful either, we Gen X had it better especially as kids but a lot of us never got the easy ride the Boomers got. The only thing they got that really bit compared to us was the Vietnam war draft.

        To you last point, I pretty much agree, a real fix would require boots on necks basically and baring a deep spiritual change, the force and urge an didea isn’t there. A revolution of NO! which is what MGTOW is very hard to stop.

        Honestly when it comes to the shaming BS. what the older guys don’t get is, a lot of people younger than them , many Gen X and virtually all Millennials never experienced their easy mode good world, can’t relate to and most importantly, it can’t come back. Its a product of a dead era, older technology and a different demography.

        To heal society you have to leave people alone, stop trying to draft them into industrial age big think movements and let it wring itself out. It has to happen organically.

        It might be possible to work towards making something that does function but we aren’t even close to that and while I can only speak as a Gen X, all of us have been lied to so much, the bar for trust is very very high. I can’t imagine how y’all must feel, they went well past lies into a level of BS old Soviet Pravda couldn’t conceive of.

        This is my Gen X opinion but I don’t think most MGTOW want to be MGTOW if they had good choices which they don’t As such .MGTOW is the smart play About getting to a place where a sensible person won’t need it, the choices are good and the movement can end on its own? FIIKH

        I do know that it cannot be cozened, pushed, urged or shamed as you said, all that causes pain and more recoiling and more GTOW

        Honestly I thought my my generation is cynical but hell we had a great deal more freedom, something of a saner society (a bit, divorce and latchkey kids were a big thing) and a more homogeneous conservative society. You guys?


        Well anyway keep up the good work, MGTOW may be a solo thing but sometimes its good to know your generation isn’t alone out there.

  11. Marriage for men has always been slavery. Society shamed men into providing for and protecting women and her children. In days past, a man that didn’t have a wife had difficulty finding employment and one that didn’t provide for a woman’s children was deemed defective. Men were also sent to war to fight and die for their rights – rights that were given to women without any cost. Men that didn’t go to war were branded cowards – by both men and women. These things are still somewhat true today, but more and more, men are standing up to this misandry and male disposability. Marriage, for all intensive purposes, has always been about the exchange of sex by women for provision and protection by men. To a large extent, society still enforces these roles.

    In the past 40+ years, tens upon tens of millions of men have been destroyed through marriage. As a result, hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of those men have committed suicide. This is the real reason for the decline in marriage.

    Feminism inadvertently freed men from their traditional male roles. Now, men aren’t forced to provide for and protect women. As more and more women enter the military – fewer and fewer men’s lives will have to be sacrificed for women’s rights. Women cast off their traditional roles and now men have done the same.

    Because of the above, we are moving toward a more equal society in which one gender isn’t forced to sacrifice themselves for the other. To continue this trend, white knights and chivalrous men must be removed from the male ranks. These are the men that will gladly throw other men under the bus to gain favor with the gynocracy. These men are relics of dark days past (for men) and need to be called out and removed from any gender equalized society.

    • Marriage for men has always been slavery. Society shamed men into providing for and protecting women and her children. In days past, a man that didn’t have a wife had difficulty finding employment and one that didn’t provide for a woman’s children was deemed defective.

      Men can’t have children?

      Yeah, “inadvertently.” Feminism is evil, but it’s inadvertently good. People like you are just another type of male feminist, supporting most of the polices(men no longer providing for their children, women in the military, ect), but simply replacing the gender that is claimed to be “oppressed.”

      • One day, you’re going to grow up and realize that everything I said is true. If you’re not grown up already, do it before you turn 40 or 50. Those men that learn the truth early in life stand the best chance of survival. The men that come to know what I’ve said to be true in their 40s and 50s usually end up in the suicide ward.

        You’re a white knight. One day, you’re going to regret everything you previously wrote. Remember this post. Think long and hard when you experience the regret from which I tried to spare you.

        • I’m 53 years old and happily married, with three White children. You are going to experience nothing but misery and call it liberation.

        • Cliché, cliché, cliché all the while well aware that there is no detail on how your wife proves, she loves you. Because she doesn’t. She tolerates you because you still are a useful tool. If she did love you, you’d provide a believable bit of proof. But you and all the other tradcons that use the “happily married ” cliché never do so. You’ve got nothing but a wife running up your bills.

  12. What do you offer men like that student? Nothing, just an anonymous blog to whine on. Even in your utopia you could offer him nothing. The chance is very little that he wants to embrace a life of voluntary celibacy. Most men would rather take their chances in a feminist-ruled world than do that.

    What our people needs is to be rid of the alien influence that is poisoning our culture. Hashtag campaigns are not enough. There will be a war.

  13. “I’m 53 years old and happily married, with three White children. You are going to experience nothing but misery and call it liberation.”

    You know what ‘they’ say! Grey divorce is the fastest growing sector of divorce. Those in your age bracket are divorcing left and right. Do you know what the men always say at that point? “I never saw it coming!” This is you in the near future!

    One day, you’re going to find yourself feasting on your own shorts, whilst regretting your comment to me. On that day, remember.

    Also – remember. It’s guaranteed that your wife is cheating on you with a big black dude. One day, your “support payments” will be much appreciated by both of them.

    • I feel sorry for you guys, undoubtedly you’ve had poor relationships with women in the past, but you’re wrong. Not all women are like the sluts and femcunts you know and despise.

      • Nice cut and paste from the standard playbook. Way to live a copycat life and do what you’re told by the females you beg for validation.

        • Most men who sleep with women don’t do so for validation, they do so for sex. Even democrat men, Jew men, don’t really believe that feminist crap even if they say so to get their women to sleep with them. What you’re doing is projecting your own mommy issues onto other men. Serious question here, do you guys ever talk about this stuff to men outside the internet? Why not?

      • True, not all women are like that.
        But the point is that more than enough of them are to make it exceptionally difficult to find the ones who aren’t, and even then there’s no guarantee she wants a committed relationship. Or that she’s just a really good actress and will cut off all emotional and sexual intimacy once you’ve married.

        • So what’s the solution? The solution is not to just give up and be an incel. The solution is to fight the Jews and their lapdogs who created this situation and REVERSE IT.

        • Of course all women are like that. They’re all like that, because when this shit was happening (and still happening to men) in the west women said nothing. They opposed nothing. Ever since women got the vote there have been nothing but hate laws passed on the men. Affirmative action laws and stimulus packs aping men of their jobs. Media depicting men as incompetent, inferior and bumbling fools. All women may not actively be asking for these things but they support them due to their silence.

          The only reason some women are claiming to stand up for men is because they are realizing that they are losing their free rides/meal tickets/sperm donors/suckers. Men are realizing relationships/marriage are completely one-sided? Dammit, the jig is up!

          It is rather like a slave master on a plantation asking his workers to return and continue to put up with oppressive conditions on the agreement he not whip them quite as hard.

  14. “There will be a war.”
    What are you waiting for,make your fucking move.
    You won’t because you’re busy sucking BDG’s cock,just like your bitch master.

  15. “Most men who sleep with women don’t do so for validation, they do so for sex.”

    Nope, that is why most men don’t visit prostitutes and would rather get sex without paying for it.

    • Hey “stonerwithaboner”, just read your article, “A Man’s Value is Determined by How Much Poooosy He Get’s….”

      You sure highlight a lot of great points. Although I am not a MGTOW, I certainly respect it and don’t consider it “gay” or “weak”. Actually at this present time, women aren’t a huge priority for me. I have a couple women I “watch movies” with it, but I am more focused on a couple other things right now. If I was “chasing pussy” all day, I wouldn’t have as much spare time.

      The funny thing about Roosh tamerlame is that he can barely get laid himself, and…he’s trying, VERY HARD lol! How can he not get laid in a city the size of Toronto? There’s a club really close to my place that’s loaded with hot stuckup white girls aged 19-25. It would be entertaining to watch Roosh “game” them. I’d bet money on it that he’d go like 0-50 lol.

      • I don’t care if a man gets laid or not. I know how hard it is for socially isolated men to get laid. I am sick of assholes like Roosh banging on about this subject.

        BTW I never go to nightclubs I am pretty sure I could get laid there. (Never going to put it to the test though. I hate the loud music, sluty girls and thugs.

        I suspect Roosh gets laid from time to time, what I think upsets him is the fact he can’t get a relationship with woman.

        The idea of a relationship with a woman makes me ill frankly.

      • The whole thing about Roosh and Clarey-take a look…

        they are middle aged men…

        the womyn they consider the gold standard of pussy ™ –18-25 white girls who go to clubs and have casual sex, aren’t gonna be interested in them. A younger guy like Good Looking Loser still has a chance. (He is yoked, even admits steriod use.)

        Most middle aged guys fucking hotties either are banging prostitutes or are in a sugar daddy relationshit…

        I honestly don’t know why they are so invested in keeping low status men in a losong game-chasing women…

        I also don’t know why a nazi queer like Jack Donovan seeks to keep low status men disposable. He seems to have the same world view as a quasi feminist, aka feMRA Judgy Bitch.

        Weird how shit works…

  16. check this shit out:


    I bet hypocrite Lauren Martine isn’t finding her never paid for sex dream man on an incel board…

    She still expects men to “pay for it.” Just that paying the going rate a hooker asks for is immoral because it devalues her….

    Let her enoy her drunken, roofied out night with Mr, Boner problems,eh, Mr. Wonderful, eh, Roosh (haha, at 40 he doesn’t qualify as mister, he still gets handouts from poppa.) And if she chubby chases, there is also Forney…

    (I found this at Maggie McNiel’s…)

        • Manboobs is stabbing his sex in the back, but at least he sticks by the feminist movement.

          AVFM has stabbed their sex in the back and their ideology. MRA being anti MGTW is an oxymoron.

          MGTOW is the smell test for anyone who claims they support men and their rights, if a person can’t stomach men going their own way, they are anti male.

          AVFM has lost a lot of video views, a lot of their videos don’t even make the triple figure mark. Their videos used to make the quadruple figure mark regularly.

          Echo chambers always die out, free thought blogs killed itself off, avfm is doing the same.

  17. wait, I thought these guys were ubber alpha, high on the HBD sacle real men ™ who were monarchists because they read the cliff notes to Beyond Good and Evil…


    the manuresphere can’t even make an antifeminist video. The only thing they’ve accomplished is doxxing great guys like Stardusk and Barbarrosssa. If I ever meet Stardusk or BarBar IRL-I’ll buy ’em a beer…

    If I ever meet Roosh or Elam, I’ll drink half the beer, pee in it and, uh, serve ’em my spechul brand of homebrew….

  18. At least the Black Panthers had the solidarity,balls,and anger to make a 100,000 armed man march on
    Washington DC.
    You don’t see whitey doing that now,do ya.
    Why do ya suppose that is?

    If a million armed white men descended upon the district of criminals and demanded restoration of their
    Constitutional rights,that would be a beginning.
    Maybe the next month it would be 10 million,and by the years end a change in ‘public servants.’

    Let’s hear the Wn’s speak to that.

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