34 comments on “The War On MGTOW Is Out In The Open Now

  1. It’s hard to control a free populace,thus The State
    criminalizes ordinary behaviors so as to create as many criminals as possible.
    Criminals are easy to control,just serve them “Justsis”

    This statement has also been a metaphor,no puppies or kittens were injured during the making of these statements.
    What do you do?
    What kind of criminal are YOU?
    hetro-cis scum!
    /snark

  2. Here are my thoughts. MGTOW isn’t just a movement, it’s a symptom of a problem. Much like feminism is. You could get rid of feminism, but it would be replaced by something else and nothing would really improve for men. In that respect it doesn’t matter if the term MGTOW gets redefined, diluted, co-opted, or commercialized. Since it’s an economic correction nothing is going to change other shifting labels.

  3. Actually the videos of mine is a bit dated, apparently NEO masculinity isnt being peddled directly by infowars, but it is in fact peddled by no other than PUA imbecile roosh, i wrote a blog post about it here

    http://sheddingoftheego.com/?p=397

    Like you, I’m also glad that the war is out in the open now. It takes away the plausible deniability.

    • Glad to see your voice on the matter, regardless of the origin.

      It is nevertheless interesting to see the nature of who co-opts a message that shames, confuses, and defrauds men.

      • Possibly Sandman too. I don’t dislike the guy, but It just seems hard for me to see what his true intentions are.

  4. “A married man can be MGTOW”?
    Yeah, right. Just as long as his wife tells him so.
    And “up is down”, “right is left”, “black is white”, and “freedom is slavery”.
    Blah, blah, blah…

  5. My problem with MGTOW is that it’s advocates often claim it somehow constitutes “rebellion against the system,” when it is no such thing. They seem to think that “the system” wants them to get married and have children. Yet the controlled media has consistently spread a messages that are against traditional marriage. They hate and fear us, why would they want us to reproduce? Traditional marriage is something radical feminists have always fought as they consider it to be “patriarchal oppression.”

    MGTOW appeals to people because it requires no work and is not at all dangerous. No one has ever lost their job for being single. The possibility of actual political activism against feminism(with the required work and risks) is what the elites really fear and is what will be necessary to defeat them.

    • “No one has ever lost their job for being single”

      you aren’t admitted into the “ole boys club” unless you are married-how many bachelor president’s have we had again?

      maybe one or two.

      “The possibility of actual political activism against feminism(with the required work and risks) is what the elites really fear and is what will be necessary to defeat them.”

      that’s the M(h)RA’s best argument. However, men opting out is likely a bigger threat…

      look at all the “man up” and “japan’s grasseater problem” type articles…

      even if “marriage could be made safe” ™ isn’t it sociopathic to reommend that to young men, just like telling them to man up and kill/die for the US Warmachine???

    • I think you are partially right. Our society wants men to support women; some want this to happen through marriage, others through alimony or taxes or child support. Feminists screech against marriage, but they still get married (Andrea Dworkin of all people got married) at least for a little while.

      Like you, I hope that more people will take up the work of directly opposing feminism, but people who drop out are at least not helping feminism.

    • +1 to this.

      Advocates of MGTOW know that marriage is a raw deal for men, but they don’t ask why the elites made it that way. It’s not just to be mean to men for the sake of it, it’s because they want to discourage marriage and family formation among white people. It’s the same reason they promote homosexuality and lesbianism.

      • Have you considered that the elite aren’t promoting homosexuality, and that you are obsessed with homosexuality because you are denying your own homosexual orientation? There is nothing wrong with being gay. Just come out of the closet, and you will be happier.

  6. I post the below frequently. I’m not preaching to the veteran MGTOW/bachelors. My post is intended for those that are relatively new to the MGTOW mindset.

    Read (1) The Manipulated Man, (2) The Myth of Male Power and (3) Stand by Your Manhood. Manginas and women will insist that marriage is for “real men” and shame you for thinking otherwise. Google ‘mgtow shaming tactics’ to get a complete list of the shaming tactics you’ll face when asking anti-gynocentric questions. Shaming tactics are social control brainwashing tools deployed to keep you in line and following the gynocentric script. Pander to the poody.

    By getting married, you’ll be signing a contract that gives a woman the power to destroy you physically, psychologically, emotionally, legally, spiritually and financially. Tens upon tens of millions of men, in the US alone, have been destroyed through marriage in the past 40+ years. Hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of those men committed suicide as a result.

    Why will others shame you for not getting married? Because they gain nothing from you opting out. It’s that simple. A man’s worth is his disposability. Chivalry is a puppet-man on a string. Patriarchy is powerful men sending less powerful men to their deaths for the patriarchy and women.

    Beware men that claim marriage is the answer. Why? Many will find themselves, after 5, 10, 20 or more years sucking on the end of a shotgun and blogging words like, “I can’t believe it’s me writing this. I was so sure I was right. My wife is screwing my best friend/boss/her boss/neighbor/coworker/etc. This can’t be real! Why God?! Why?!”

    Know why male-only selective service has persisted through the women’s movement? Because men are the disposable gender. The women’s movement is about (1) freeing women from the slavery of marriage, (2) giving women sexual freedom and liberation and (3) destroying the patriarchy (destroying men and transferring/redistributing men’s wealth and power to women. Don’t let anyone tell you different. It ain’t about equality. Nothing could be further from the truth.

  7. Funny how a MGHOW can both be in a “movement of people doing nothing because it’s easy” while at the same time “contributing to a depopulation agenda”.

    These people are trying to convince us that protest still works and stockbrokers are still stewards of your money. The odd thing about all of this is that they think they are having an effect on our thoughts. Every man familiar with the idea of Mgtow (that’s all it is) had learned manipulation techniques from all directions and have discussed them at length with other men.

    This type of thing can only work on those still worried about “letting people down”, even though the only reason we’re here is because we’ve been let down by everyone: women, society, our families, our governments have ignored us so we(I) just wish to let them be and work on what makes me (us) happy.

  8. “A married man can be MGTOW”

    An extremely stupid statement.

    Even if there was no marriage 2.0, the fact that you care and love and are responsible for your family means that you will be influenced by them and sacrifice for them. MGTFW – men going the family way.

    As for the pushback against MGTOW, here is a great post by Hollen hund on it.

    In online parlance, “MGTOW” basically refers to any man who’s off-script. There are many scripts out there.

    The tradcon / white nationalist script: bust your ass and remain celibate, then marry some supposedly good and worthy Christian “virgin”, move to some rural area, have lots of kids and homeschool them, grow your own food and brag about your lifestyle on the Internet.

    The feminist script: bust your ass and have egalitarian relationships with feminist women based on mutual respect, marry an ageing spinster or single mother, have 1 or 2 children and indoctrinate them with feminism, move to the suburbs, pay off your wife’s debts, brag about it all on the Internet and then tearfully claim it’s all your fault when she frivorces you and ruins your life.

    The MHRA script: bust your ass and do lots of activism on behalf of MRA organizations. Donate money, show up on protests and conferences. Paint a target on your back for tradcons and feminists to shoot at. Whenever attacked, claim that you support “gender equality” and love women.

    The PUA script: bust your ass, work out like crazy, spend your free time learning all sorts of “valuable” skills, go on a diet, approach 10 women everyday, travel the Third World, brag about it all online, then move to the Philippines or Latvia when you’re tired of it all, then self-publish your memoirs in online format and sell it on Amazon.

    The people pushing these scripts are all targeting the same demographic, young single betas, so they are in fierce competition. What is making their job even harder is that a growing segment of these betas are refusing to follow any script. This is making more and more people angry and frustrated, as evidenced by increasingly shrill public discourse about MGTOWs and the “Sexodus”. Young men are supposed to be dumb disposable shits, after all, and follow a script. But a growing number of them simply won’t do it.

    http://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-temptation-of-mgtow.html?showComment=1431972112730#c7927498760757591808

  9. Everyone whose eyes have been opened by MGTOW and its elaboration on MGTOW videos and blogs can be justifiably proud how quickly it has gone from being ignored to being a threat. Once you graduate to being a threat that is openly attacked, you know you are on the first rung of the latter. The next rung is that MGTOW is true but trivial, therefore not worthy of notice, and the rung after that is that MGTOW was really invented by those who once attacked it most vociferously.

    The key to MGTOW’s rapid rise in visibility is that its social critique is new. Everyone has heard the feminist critique of traditionalism (notwithstanding that fact that feminism is traditionalism on steroids — ‘roid rage traditionalists), and everyone has heard the trad-con critique of feminism, and nothing new has been said in either movement for decades. The two have been locked in a zero-sum social conflict while the lawyers cash in on divorce battles and politicians feather their nests.

    MGTOW breaks in on this cosy and comfortable game with a critique of both traditionalism and feminism, of both left and right, that takes no prisoners. I find this profoundly satisfying partly because I agree with most MGTOW theories of evolutionary psychology and social interaction, but also because it moves the debate forward for the first time in ages.

    While MGTOW can today be dissed and dismissed and shamed, the arguments being formulated by MGTOW today will be common currency in ten years, and even the academic gynocracy will be forced into addressing both the reasoning and the evidence embodied in the MGTOW critique of society.

    We are living in the midst of a revolution, and it feels great. “Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive, But to be young was very heaven!”

  10. I’m a guy married for 21 years, I’m in my 50’s, MGTOW is not applicable for us married guys. Slight attempts at independence within the legally binding contract of marriage are possible, but let us face the cold hard reality; when I walked down the aisle I shackled myself to her and handed her a grenade. My only hope and prayer is that she does not pull the pin. Mind you, my Mrs is thin, employed, pleasant, and accommodating in all the ways a man would desire, but this life I live in not freedom! I NEVER recommend marriage to any guy who suggests they found “the one”, or “my soul mate” (choke gag cough)…EVER! The response is always the same, Gee, you have a great wife/life/family et al, AND I DO, but the thoughtful realist in me has to face sobering facts, I’m not my own man…period! Guys join the military and love the life, its a choice and a noble one but they must understand that they have surrendered their freedom to join….SAME WITH MARRIAGE! I’m all about sober, thoughtful, realistic choices and full disclosure. Smoke, eat fat-food, drink to excess, spend money you don’t have, hey, whatever, just understand the consequences of your choice!

    • You don’t need a marriage contract to be with a woman and be a monogamous couple if that is what you want. If a woman truly loves and cares for you, she won’t force you to get married. But if she does, well, then she has shown her true colors and motives.

      • I have always agreed with this. All women know the legal implications of getting married and it is partly why they are so insistent upon it.

        I don’t care what “red-pill” nonsense these women talk up, if they insist upon a marriage contract it shows you where her interests really lie.

    • Keep cutting and pasting this message out there, Buck. While you may never know who it reaches, trust me it will tip off many sober-thinking guys.

    • Hey there, I’m married 4 years, with her for 10. Upper middle class. Self employed. We have 5 degrees between us and speak 3 languages between us. She and I have made many sacrifices to be where we are and worked harder than 99% of people will ever work in 60 years and we’re in our 30s. And we love each other through it all. That does not make be a beta. All this MGTOW crap is juvenile butt hurt nonsense from directionless guys in a failed economy. Women didnt fail you, you dopes. Wake up. Your fathers and their fathers failed you when the Greatest Generation came home from WW2 and set up the biggest Ponzi scheme in the history of ever: the American Dream….. the ideal that all men can have their own castle, their queen, and work for a nice, safe syndicate for their whole lives, eat pizza onn Fridays and go to Disney World in the summer. Well… that’s gone. And you’re pissed. Don’t direct it at women. It’s not their fault their mothers were morons. You want to feel better? Build a business. Make some art. DO something creative. If you sit around pissing and moaning about the “feminist agenda”, you’ll just turn into a whiny bag of puss-dicks, which is what most people on these forums sound like. I didnt know what MGTOW was until tonight. It has been educational, gentlemen. Good luck with your little revolution.

      • You are not married mental defect! lolol

        If you was married and living the good life you would not bother to post what you post.

        Get out of here lying cunt.

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