34 comments on “Who Needs Feminists When You Have Paul Elam?

  1. and here’s some humor for ya…

    https://stonerwithaboner.wordpress.com/2015/02/14/elams-favorite-song/

    https://stonerwithaboner.wordpress.com/2015/01/13/uber-macho-left-wing-mhra-dean-esmay-outcusses-james-hetfeild-to-bad-he-cant-play-geetar/

    Now I will do my Fidelboggen impersonation:

    “ahem, ah, yes, as rhetorical self-apponted disciplinarian of the non-feminist human rights movement that does not give a shit about men, I proclaim. MiGTOW’s are PiGTOW’s because MEN are pigs-Yes MEN ARE Pigs’s. I do not give a flying fuck about men, that’s why I get strap-on action and small penis humilation from the Honey Badgers and all I have to do is Forced Financial Humiliation S&M style to Paul Elam’s bank account. If you are not an M(h)RA-you are part of the problem and not the solution. I am Fiddleboggen, hear me roar…”

      • Not a joke. I remember finding her old site back in 2001 or so. Back when I was still a blue pill swallowing little bitch boy who thought women could do no wrong. And I assure you, this woman means every single hateful word she utters. And her stupid mangina fans pay for it all because they get off on being hated by sexy women like her. It’s disgusting.

  2. “I am Fiddleboggen, hear me roar…”

    He roars? seriously?

    Damn. I just fall asleep before he makes any points worth waiting for. Had no idea he ever got to roaring. He’s a moron who thinks that using big words and inordinate amounts of circumlocution (heh. big words), that he’ll sound smart. He just sounds like a puffed up moron with a thesaurus.

  3. As for Elam?

    Hope he gets some results for men from MRA. I think he already has, small ones, round the edges. That’ll be all he ever achieves.

    But I no longer have any time for him. I don’t need anyone like the guy who made the PigTOW video speaking for me. He was a cunt in that video. Out of control.

    Anyone know how the AVFM site is doing with their commenting regime? Worthy of a radfem blog. **Banned for saying something true that doesn’t fit our narrative ** Way to go, Sue.

  4. I hadn’t even heard of this Elam guy until recently, but he seems like a huge tool. I actually watched him debate Matt Binder the other night and he doesn’t debate very well haha. He loses his cool at times, and looked as baffled as Roosh did when he was on the Dr. Oz show!

  5. AVFM is slowly trying to turn back to MGTOW, this attempt will fail, as they still associate with the red pill PUA types, and MGTOW have long memories.

    Paul should of known that you can’t play all sides to appeal to all people. The fat idiot had a good thing going and he flushed it down the toilet.

    Paul burnt his bridges, his site is a fucking joke.

  6. Not to mention good mangina project style articles.
    Is Elam taking money from MS magazine?

    Sue is a cunt,and so is her bitch, Paul.
    Sniveling name calling cunts.
    Pig this, you cunts.

  7. Black pill watch this.

    CAFE are plastic fake mra’s.

    A video of feminists disrupting a CAFE event waswas starting to viral but then they took it down.

  8. Woollybumblebee was the first person to coin the term PIGTOW. She was the woman who attacked MGTOW while working for AVFM, she was quickly shown the door by AVFM.

    Perhaps they should invite her back? I mean they are on the same anti MGTOW page.

    • WBB’s outrage over MGTOW represents the very core of the problem of ever trying to talk to women or even involving them in any sphere of influence or thought. Not unlike how DriverSuze and that single mother whore, Karen Straughan have disenfranchised a good portion of the most prolific and strongest supporters of AVFM. Karen is the epitome of hypocrisy because she herself is a single mother who divorce raped her own husband and cheated on him with a boytoy. I can’t stand hypocrites like her and like all those RPW’s (Red Pill Women). It’s nothing more than an Uncle Tom attempt to get us back on the plantation.

      • “Karen is the epitome of hypocrisy because she herself is a single mother who divorce raped her own husband and cheated on him with a boytoy”

        I don’t really keep up with all the information on the manosphere. Where did you hear this? Not to say I disbelieve it; so far I’ve found every single so-called “red-pilled” woman to be full of shit. Even Laura Grace Robins ignored my post when I asked her about her hypocrisy regarding being a stay-at-home wife (she clearly saw my post because she responded to that other woman about that drama: https://unmaskingfeminism.wordpress.com/2015/04/21/look-at-me-look-at-me-this-is-how-it-can-be-look-at-me/comment-page-1/#comment-13819).

        And of course, I am well aware of Sunshine Mary’s bullshit (former slut that claims she was ‘fixed’ by her current man is now a ‘good woman’), Judgybitch and her veiled traditionalism; I have no tolerance for the snake oil peddled by Espeth and that Don’tbefeministbefeminine either (a few months back the latter banned me and didn’t allow my comment to appear which showed how full of shit women in general are).

        But yeah, I haven’t kept up with Karen. I don’t watch her videos; I think they’re boring and various males say and do what she does far more competently. I also have a serious issue with any woman claiming to speak for men in general – women have always had a serious issue with claiming to know “what’s best for men” – actually a manipulation technique that just leads back to them getting what they want.

        • Karen often talks in her videos about how she is a freed individual and that she is in a happy and sustaining sexually free relationship with someone that she “loves”. Such a woman spits on the very idea of love, because her word means NOTHING. She promised and vowed (sacred oath of honor kind of stuff) that she would uphold and love the man that she originally married. To that end, she divorced his ass and ran off with another man that she “loves”. Short hair, bossy attitude, crass and sarcastic demeanor and “freed sexuality” all reek of feminism. Hell, she can’t even play the fool well enough, and we are to believe her as a RPW? If this woman proves anything, it’s that bigotry and stupidity are not mutually exclusive necessarily. One precludes the other and in this case, women have taken up the “manly mantle” of bigotry.

          As for SSM, BP and I have often discussed her husband’s scandalous past as well as the hypocrisy that she presents in her writings. Her husband is the example of what happens when you revolve your life around your penis and let your penis do your thinking instead of using your higher reasoning capabilities. Not unlike how Game/PUA types or Gamer “Christians” tend to revolve their life around “setting up proper frame” instead of following God and leaving women to be accountable for their choices and actions instead of goading them from hitting the “next” button on their marriages and relationships. As for the other RPW SAHM types (with the exception of LGR since I have a better understanding of where she’s coming from in regards to her writing) like Elspeth, I think they are more so looking for the proverbial pat on the back or “attagirl” so they feel reaffirmed that they are doing good.
          Either that, or they do what SSM does and rattle on and on about their husbands being the greatest thing since sliced bread. Which either reeks of insecurity or narcissism or a bit of both. I guess trophy husbands are making a comeback amongst the neo-conservative crowd.

        • I often find that those with the weakest arguments tend to derail arguments and robust dialogue to their personal life. As if their personal experience negates the validity of counterarguments and collected sociological data. Mostly women tend to use this sort of argument style, though I have seen more and more male Christian manospherean bloggers and commenters use this poor strategy. Anecdotes do nothing else but introduce more subjectivity into rational arguments and lead to a lot more one-upsmanship than simply sticking to the facts and drawing conclusions based on those facts.

        • Women in the manuresphere are incapable of not constantly talking about themselves. It’s part of a larger problem of the maunuresphere where everything is treated as a personal problem or personal issue even though that’s clearly wrong.

        • BP,

          Not only that, but when they are actually called out on the inconsistencies of their anecdotal arguments as well as using personal information that they VOLUNTARILY gave up about their personal life, they like to pull out the “bullying and security” card to attempt to silence counterarguments. Always interesting how some SAHM’s can rattle on and on about their personal lives in PUBLIC and not expect their debaters to use such information to refute their points and demolish their arguments as well as discredit the validity of their opinions. Then again, it’s not surprising as most women can’t argue logically and objectively without going into emotional tangents.

          I’m not sure what’s more pungent..their self-obsession and narcissism of detailing every moment of their lives for attention or for playing the whole “husband cock fight” by subtly insinuating that only their husbands are worthy of their vagina’s because their husbands are so gosh-darn “alpha”. So much so, that they will often equate their husband’s being “alpha” and their sorted and checkered sexual past as some kind of experience or struggle in which they picked up valuable “frame knowledge” so that they could be morally redeemed by the goodness of their submissive wives while remaining sexually appealing to them. It’s nothing more than a neo-conservative ploy to get us back on the plantation. It occurs to me that we are coming up with all sorts of mental cartwheels to circle around holding women COMPLETELY accountable and responsible for their atrocious and reprehensible personal choices, INCLUDING THE HORRIBLE CHOICES IN MEN. This includes rationalizing their poor choices by trying to reframe what is good as bad (in this case re-framing hard working stiff’s to be more “outgoing” aka, adapting unproductive and immoral characteristics).

        • “And of course, I am well aware of Sunshine Mary’s bullshit (former slut that claims she was ‘fixed’ by her current man is now a ‘good woman’), ”

          I thought it was her husband that cheated on her (with over 40 women!!!) until he “found Jesus” – and even then continued doing it.

          But yeah, any woman that would put up with that is full of shit and the Ladies Auxilery of the Manosphere has always been full of shit. Especially the SAHBs (stay at home bloggers) who post food porn and flirt with men and write about their awesome married sex lives all day online while their husbands are at work – all in the name of “traditional sex roles” , “homeschooling” and “homesteading “.

        • Crimson, “Karen often talks in her videos about how she is a freed individual and that she is in a happy and sustaining sexually free relationship with someone that she “loves”.

          – Is that someone a woman? I was under the impression that she is gay. Didn’t she say so?

          “Short hair, bossy attitude, crass and sarcastic demeanor and “freed sexuality” all reek of feminism. ”

          – The Manosphere regularly disses Feminists as ugly but when pointed out the sorry looks of Karen, they said they found her “moderately attractive” and “cute in an odd way”. Just goes to show you that they have no objective view of beauty but will find any woman who spouts their rhetoric and ideology as “attractive” and any woman who doesn’t, no matter how beautiful, as “ulgy”.

        • 21 Convention,

          It doesn’t matter if she is with another woman or not, she cheated on her husband and divorce raped him. She CHOSE to be a carpet-munching dyke and eviscerate the COMMITTED relationship she was in originally. Not only that, but she fought tooth and nail in court for just the baseline of shared custody of her kid, not to mention child support payments. She has her own house to clean before she goes rattling on and on about feminists as it is the more popular thing to do. I called out another woman (Debbie Leff Israel) who was a total hypocrite and self-interested fool who co-opted the fight for men’s rights through reforming alimony laws in Florida. She was part of the Second Wives Club (aka Adulteresses in the purest definition) and the ONLY reason why she wanted to fight for reforming the system of heinously taking money from guys and giving it to undeserving leeches is because HER OWN MONEY would go to an undeserving leech because she is married to a divorced man who is forced to pay lifetime alimony. This shows you that women, at best, are only our “allies” because of PURE self interest, which means that once they have their little problems solved, then they will go back to demanding us on the Plantation. Just look at how much heat MGTOW’s have gotten cause we will NEVER go back to the Plantation. Here’s the YouTube video of the stupid slag who whine and gripe about lifetime alimony because her own money is being wasted…money, mind you, that has been taken from another more deserving man who would have been better at her job than she is.

      • “It occurs to me that we are coming up with all sorts of mental cartwheels to circle around holding women COMPLETELY accountable and responsible for their atrocious and reprehensible personal choices, INCLUDING THE HORRIBLE CHOICES IN MEN. This includes rationalizing their poor choices by trying to reframe what is good as bad (in this case re-framing hard working stiff’s to be more “outgoing” aka, adapting unproductive and immoral characteristics).”

        The conning of those men(decent, humble, intelligent, hard-working) to adopt unproductive, immoral traits(hallmarks of modern-day social engineering by manginas & feminists) also aids in the justification of treating those men as disposable, and also justifying the redfem dogma of “all men are creeps/scum”. I think more & more men are catching on, though.

  9. I didn’t know anything about AVfM until the last couple months and I personally don’t like the “current version.” Maybe the older articles were better.

    Although I’m not MGTOW, I have a hard time understanding Elam. It seems like AVfM is an “open-tent.” It looks like he’s trying to lure back MGTOW, but yet he’s so focused on supporting a PUA douche (Roosh) that regularly attacks MGTOW. He must be about to join forces with ROK or Roosh to try and pump up his donations. To be honest, I see very little difference between AVfM and ROK!

    • That “Captain Capitalism” guy is an odd one. He’s goodlooking for his age (by US standards anyway), doesn’t work (for anyone else but himself apparantly), doesn’t have kids, has never been married or divorced, and he has a girlfriend and talks about never having had any real problems with women in his life ever. So what’s he in the Manosphere for and why does he seem so angry?

  10. At this point Paul is no different than the various women that claim to stand up for men’s rights.

    And like them, he’s clearly proven to not actually care for the plights of men. I don’t believe any woman has the right to speak for men’s issues, men’s problems or fixing the legal system. I’m at the point where seeing any woman commentate concerning anything male-related simply irritates me.

    I believe Paul, just like all women on anything remotely male should just keep quiet.

  11. I don’t follow Elam but isn’t he at least trying to do some political work and get misandrist laws changed? Or am I mixing him up with some other guy?

    • I don’t follow Elam but isn’t he at least trying to do some political work and get misandrist laws changed?

      That’s what he wants you to believe. In reality, he uses AVFM as his personal piggy bank, and he spends his time attacking MGTOW and posting recipes.

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