97 comments on “Did Game Cause Mystery’s Epic Meltdown?

  1. That’s a very sad situation to be in. Be that as it may, I always find it strange when one of these gold plated playas — who claim they can seduce anyone — gets kicked to the curb by one of the women they presumed mastery over.

    What happens when a pusher of game can’t deal with the knowledge that they are nothing more than a con artist?

    The only part of learning game that works is the same part of learning salesmanship or public speaking that will work. People (both men and women) find decisive and confident people attractive. It’s easy to blame the scam artists (and Mystery does deserve some mockery) but one should also criticize his customers. Why would you pay big dollaz to hang out with a dork in a fuzzy hat, when toastmasters is free (or nearly so).

    The reality is that if a woman is spending time with you, she generally wants to screw you. You just have to ask her and see what happens. It ain’t no “mystery”.

    • “The only part of learning game that works is the same part of learning salesmanship or public speaking that will work.”

      Not true.

      If you mean being assertive with women, it’s called being assertive and has nothing to do with sales or public speaking.

      If you’re already very charismatic and a great actor, you may be already popular with women and many men cannot learn these types of effects on people.

      Men aren’t selling or giving speeches in bars.

      “The reality is that if a woman is spending time with you, she generally wants to screw you.”

      The word “generally” makes this a sentence devoid of content. A woman may have male friends for “orbiters” or is socializing or wants free favors – it’s very common. Being attractive to a specific woman is a quantum type of thing – you either are or you are not and it does not change, it is not a lottery nor a negotiation.

  2. Whatever you think about Mystery and ‘game’ it’s abundantly clear he’s getting screwed over by our gynocentric legal system.

  3. Guy works for the approval of bar sluts. Guy impregnates bar slut. Guy disappointed by bar slut mom behavior. Anyone could’ve seen this a mile away when those pictures popped up of her and him walking around. They’re just trashy people. I’m not religious, but if I did want to ever entertain the marriage/kids/family game (I wouldn’t in the modern West, it’s too broken), I would only do it with a God-fearing religiously-shackled woman. Secularism as a human operating system results in a worldview of being a customer at an amusement park with no binding contracts.

  4. I met one of Mystery’s disciples (an instructor) because they came regularly to my town, they considered it a hot spot for meeting women and students because there are a lot of college bars and good weather. This was during the rage of their infamy in about 2008.

    The instructor said he tried to kill himself one New Year’s Eve for not getting laid. But he admitted his suicidal ideation had nothing to do with getting laid and failing to use Game. He was always upset at everything before getting women and hoped getting women would solve his problems, but of course it never did.

    Getting laid, losing your virginity, or having a wife won’t solve a man’s problems and men are waking up to that reality.

    • y’know something, doing psychadelic mushrooms was far more “life changing” than getting layyed ™ …

      people have said that if prostitution was legal and Elliot Rodger banged a hooker, he wouldn’t off killed anyone but I don’t think that’s the case.

      • he could’ve gotten the blonde girl of his dreams and still gone off the deep end when it fell apart. Virginity had nothing to do with it as he had highly circular thinking that he couldn’t shake off.

  5. The word “generally” makes this a sentence devoid of content.

    The fact that you don’t understand something doesn’t make it “devoid of content”

    A woman may have male friends for “orbiters” or is socializing or wants free favors – it’s very common.

    No, she generally wants to fuck them, too. If you’re some woman’s orbiter, it’s because you are too shy to make their move, not because she doesn’t like you.

    Being attractive to a specific woman is a quantum type of thing – you either are or you are not and it does not change, it is not a lottery nor a negotiation.

    You don’t know many women personally, do you?

    • If you are not specific or clear in your writing, a sentence can be devoid of content to the audience.

      About orbiters, your claims are not true.

      You are making personal attacks, which is quite telling.

      The official, posted position of this blog is that dating advice is called by the blog owner part of the MDAD, or Misandrist Dating Advice Distraction. It’s not my acronym, it’s the blog owner’s acronym.

      https://omegavirginrevolt.wordpress.com/a-call-to-arms-to-destroy-the-misandrist-dating-advice-distraction/

      What you did was give three pieces of dating advice:
      Sales seminars
      Public speaking training
      Seeing which women want to hang out with you.

      All three are very common pieces of advice, vague, and unspecific- which qualify all three qualify for the MDAD. They are wrong and are not proven to work. They do not work for men who are not attractive to women to get more dates. It is the posted position of the owner of this blog that this type of advice does not work for men and should be pointed out as wrong.

      What they all have in common is that men in society want to first get women and then after the fact deal with the consequences. They then rationalize their own dating advice and other dating advice from other people. If men, on an individual level first said no to women, and then sat back and waited to see if women brought value, then they as individuals would be in a better negotiating position.

      Do you want to help men, Boxer? Or are you here to promote yourself as a success with women? Why don’t you meet other posters online at the point of the conversation where they are at? No one, and certainly not I, are making personal attacks on you but now you’ve begun to do so.

    • “No, she generally wants to fuck them, too. If you’re some woman’s orbiter, it’s because you are too shy to make their move, not because she doesn’t like you.”

      Hahahaha! Nooo. I personally knew women as an “orbiter” i.e one of her friends and we ended up fucking but she had other dudes hovering and she had no interest in them whatsoever. Many if not most women give these dudes enough hope that they would be in their social circle but not so much that they would make a move and annoy her. Many of my friends actually tried to make without their female friend and they got the “I like you as a friend” routine or in rarer cases just expelled from the group.

      • Brother Boxer was an orbiter in his teenage years. Eventually he got it into his head that he’d just ask these hoes (who he imagined were way, way out of his league) to fuck.

        When the first one agreed, he was amazed. The second one agreed too. After the fact, hoe number two expressed amazement that he finally asked her. “I am so glad you finally made the moves… I was beginning to think that you didn’t like me at all…”

        If a woman finds you unattractive, she won’t be hanging out with you. End of story. If you doubt it, try it out.

        Best,

        Boxer

        • “If a woman finds you unattractive, she won’t be hanging out with you. End of story. If you doubt it, try it out.”

          LOL. What part of my post didn’t you read? All of it ,looks like.

      • LOL. What part of my post didn’t you read? All of it ,looks like.

        Actually I read it carefully. Had you the capacity to understand my point, you’d see that I’m actually agreeing with you.

        You wrote:
        I personally knew women as an “orbiter” i.e one of her friends and we ended up fucking but she had other dudes hovering and she had no interest in them whatsoever.

        What do you suppose differentiated you from these other “orbiters”?

        Boxer

        • Your condescension and patronizing tone is much appreciated. However such things are more suited coming from someone who has a clue.

          It is obvious to anyone with a smidgen of reading comprehension that your idea of what constitutes an orbiter differs from mine.

          As to what differentiated me- Well I have a what the French call a “je ne sais quoi” or so I’m told. I personally don’t see but I’m told it works in my favor.
          Perhaps gods way of making up for giving me a bitch of a mother and two nagging harridans of older sisters.

        • Your condescension and patronizing tone is much appreciated. However such things are more suited coming from someone who has a clue.

          It is obvious to anyone with a smidgen of reading comprehension that your idea of what constitutes an orbiter differs from mine.

          As to what differentiated me- Well I have a what the French call a “je ne sais quoi” or so I’m told. I personally don’t see but I’m told it works in my favor.
          Perhaps gods way of making up for giving me a bitch of a mother and two nagging harridans of older sisters.

          In other words, you don’t know what the difference is, but you know that I can’t know what the difference is, despite the fact that you won’t even venture a guess.

          Well, I guess that settles the matter! lol

  6. What you did was give three pieces of dating advice

    I did? Where did I do that?

    I just read my original article again. It has a couple of general (lol) observations in it. That’s all.

    Do you want to help men, Boxer? Or are you here to promote yourself as a success with women? Why don’t you meet other posters online at the point of the conversation where they are at? No one, and certainly not I, are making personal attacks on you but now you’ve begun to do so.

    lol

    • Pardon me, but aren’t you the same sperg who jumped into this conversation with…”

      Pardon me but “jumped into this conversation” implies that I was intruding on a private discussion LOL. Anyway it was obvious that you were intent on making an ass of yourself there as well. So I just thought I would join in. the fun! But its obvious that it wasn’t going in the direction you hoped and hence your mewling.


      There is a fragile ego here, to be sure.

      I’ll argue anything with anybody, provided they have something to teach me. People who define themselves with bitchy comments don’t fit into that category. Your entertainment value is your only real commodity, and I think you know that as well as anyone.

      Best,

      I have nothing to teach anyone who thinks Freud is still relevant. Enjoy living with your delusions of (pseudo) intellectual grandeur.

      I think I may have made some typos in my comments. Feel free to correct them if it makes you feel all intellectual and profound.

      • Dear “Dr.” (lol)

        Pardon me but “jumped into this conversation” implies that I was intruding on a private discussion LOL. Anyway it was obvious that you were intent on making an ass of yourself there as well. So I just thought I would join in. the fun! But its obvious that it wasn’t going in the direction you hoped and hence your mewling.

        Your inability to make any salient points are thus excused. Nice!

        I have nothing to teach anyone who thinks Freud is still relevant. Enjoy living with your delusions of (pseudo) intellectual grandeur.

        I write peer-reviewed journal articles for a living. You’re a kook who posts nonsense in the comments section of Omega Virgin Revolt. That’s the reality of the situation.

        Best,

        Boxer

        • I know I am dealing with someone who cant argue for shit when pulls some credentials out of his ass to bolster his “arguments”. And who the heck reviews your articles- the Kardashians? LOL that wouldn’t surprise me at all.

      • “I have nothing to teach anyone who thinks Freud is still relevant. Enjoy living with your delusions of (pseudo) intellectual grandeur.”

        Freud was never relevant lolol

  7. “In other words, you don’t know what the difference is, but you know that I can’t know what the difference is, despite the fact that you won’t even venture a guess.”

    Whatever bro! If you really need to win this irrelevant jerk off contest because of your incredibly fragile ego(as noted by your posts brimming with pedantry masquerading as knowledge) then go pat yourself on the back. I really don’t give a crap either way.

    • Whatever bro! If you really need to win this irrelevant jerk off contest because of your incredibly fragile ego(as noted by your posts brimming with pedantry masquerading as knowledge) then go pat yourself on the back. I really don’t give a crap either way.

      Pardon me, but aren’t you the same sperg who jumped into this conversation with…

      LOL. What part of my post didn’t you read? All of it ,looks like.

      ?

      There is a fragile ego here, to be sure.

      I’ll argue anything with anybody, provided they have something to teach me. People who define themselves with bitchy comments don’t fit into that category. Your entertainment value is your only real commodity, and I think you know that as well as anyone.

      Best,

      Boxer

    • Jack Donovan huh? Somehow I am not surprised! Is there any other manuresphere weirdo you would like to go weeping to because I am this meanie who laughs at your “peer reviewed” journals?

      You don’t even know what I mean by peer-review, do you?

      Do you ever wonder how you reached this point? I mean, your closest brush with relevance is being laughed at, on the internet, by your intellectual superiors. That’s sorta depressing, but from my perspective, it’s funny, too!

      Take Care,

      Boxer

      • “Do you ever wonder how you reached this point? I mean, your closest brush with relevance is being laughed at, on the internet, by your intellectual superiors

        Yup, in my experience those anonymous weirdos who when fail to make a coherent argument start claiming intellectual superiority out of thin air sure put me in my place LOL. Whats next? Are you going to quote Matt Forney about he is Conan The Barbarian incarnate to prove a point about your awesomeness?

    • I have turned against boxer.

      Do not trust people who believe in the Freudian cult.

      And you differ from the looneys who wring their hands about Marcuse, how?

      That’s right, you don’t. You are your own conspiracy theorist.

      Impossible to “turn against” someone you don’t know, by the way. We’ve never met. You realize this, right? lol

      • Pointing out that Freud is pseudo science bullshit is not being Loony. Your insane rationalizations defending Freud where loony, and ironically very Game PUA like.

        “That’s right, you don’t. You are your own conspiracy theorist.”

        You are starting to spaz out, saying Freud is bullshit is not the definition of conspiracy theory.

        People where telling me you where a trad con, I am starting to believe them.

        I am done with you, as I do not see an potential in you from a human resource point of view.

        • Dear Tamerlame:

          I am done with you, as I do not see an potential in you from a human resource point of view.

          Are you psychotic? You realize we’ve never spoken to one another, yes?

          My interaction with you is, in my recollection, limited to a couple of casual (fawning) emails you sent me. You invited me to facetime you a few times, and I always politely declined. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

          I was never your personal friend. While it’s unfortunate that your feelings are hurt, it’s not my problem.

          You should probably grow a spine and get off the internet for a while. It seems like you put way too much stock in online nonsense.

          Best,

          Boxer

  8. They can speculate all day about what caused the meltdown, but really, there is no *Mystery* about it (no pun intended, I swear!) — he is going through a father’s separation withdrawal. A woman will use a man’s own kids to hurt him the most. While he is pining away for those kids, their mother will be brainwashing them with lies about him, in order to turn them against him, hopefully wanting nothing to do with him by the time they are adults. It happens all the time, and from what I’ve seen, a daughter who was turned against her father by her mother is likely to do the same with her kids against their father — it becomes a multi-generational thing.

    One line in the link caught my eye… “Understandably, he—and the rest of the seduction community—have made many enemies by presenting women as sex puzzles who can be solved like Rubik’s cubes.” Strangely, there is a certain…nostalgia about the term “sex puzzles”, as this was the first school of thought I was following after finally being forced out of the blue-pill I had been living in up to that point. Looking at them as sex puzzles, somehow I still had hope that the code could be cracked…but then I would soon realize that women are not sexual puzzles — they are sexual padlocks disguised as puzzles. They only way to open that lock is to have the key, and the only way to get that key is to already have it; if you don’t already have it, you never will.

    • he is going through a father’s separation withdrawal. A woman will use a man’s own kids to hurt him the most. While he is pining away for those kids, their mother will be brainwashing them with lies about him, in order to turn them against him, ”

      So all this leads back to the same question- how come game coudnt help him keep his wife ? Why couldn’t game help him maintain his incredible alpha awesomeness after marriage? Heck why couldn’t he “game” his kids so they would be impervious to their moms bullshit?

      • Well, I think it goes without saying that “game” doesn’t do that. I don’t know if Mystery or anyone else has ever implied that it does anything but get you her pants — have they? I don’t follow any of those snake oil salesmen so I wouldn’t know.

        • Mystery kept talking up game even after he was married. All the married “gamers” keep hyping it up crediting it for their strong marriage which was never contradicted by heartiste/roissy ,mystery and rest of the clown parade.

          I never followed them as such but was into game for a very brief period before I realized it was bunk for a variety of reasons. This post killed whatever little respect I had for heartiste.

          (somewhat nsfw)
          https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/12/28/open-this-set-3/

          He considers these women attractive.

          Yuck,yuck and yuck.

          Later next year, I saw what Matt Forney looked like. That about did it.

          Of course conspiracy theories, collapse porn, alpha male jock sniffing(particularly Vladmir Putin) vicious racism, scams etc etc all of which very well covered by BP didn’t exactly endear me to them either.

        • Obviously the only thing worth seeing there is the one with her leg up in the air — the other two are dogs — and it’s not like she’s all that good in the face at that (I can’t believe he gave her a 7.5 — I give her 5 at best), but it could make for an exceptional self-abuse pic because the realism and rawness of the scene probably makes it better than most airbrushed studio porn.

          It’s not surprise that he would still be talking up PUA (game) after being married, because by that point, it’s his bread and butter. It would take a lot of gall to suggest that you can ride the PUA wave into marital happiness, because at its core, PUA is nothing but a set of strategies that are all based on faking it. Think about it — everything it tells a guy to do is exactly the opposite of how a guy seeking that kind of help would naturally behave. It might help catalyze a guy who is already successful with women into gaining even more edge, but the vast majority of guys who go for that are pretty much dead in the water in terms of women. They are looking for serious help here, and so far, PUA is the only thing even slightly mainstream that is offering any help. The problem is that guys who are already clumsy around women are never going to be able to pull those charades off, especially with women. Remember that women tend to be much more cunning social tacticians and manipulators than men, operating on a much deeper level of “game”, particularly when it comes to mate selection. They have evolved that way for a reason: to efficiently and quickly screen out pre-deselected men, and relegate them to incel. They pick up on the PUA ruse from 15 blocks away, so there is really no hope of it working for the main type of guy trying to use it. Mystery, Doosh B, et al don’t care because they have made fortunes off it, and let’s face it — Elliot Rodger wasn’t shooing through THEIR windows that fateful night, now was he…

          As I’ve said before on my own blog (wait, that’s still a draft — better finish it) PUA is only good for one thing: a smelling salt. It’s methods don’t work; they won’t get you out of incel, but PUA is often the the first thing that serves as a metaphorical smelling salt that wakes a lot of guys up out of their blue pill stupor. For all of its faults, PUA openly challenges the lie, fed to millions of young men, that women’s sexual selection is a conscious and rational choice.

        • Don’t bother with Boxer’s post. It’s vague assertions, mostly. Far better is a guy posting The Human Mating blog. https://sirtyrionlannister.wordpress.com/

          Black Pill I hope you don’t mind me linking to a serious scientific and by default anti-game blog.

          Admittedly, it’s hard to read because the guy insists, correctly, to use only scientific language so as to not make vague statements but every post including the comments is pure gold. You’ll see your views confirmed there with hard data and testable models, in particular that some guys have the traits to get girls and some guys just don’t.

        • Yes, unfortunately. The worst offender IMHO is a guy called “Rollo Tomassi” of The Rational Male blog. I won’t link to him because I hate giving his site hits. But he’s a married- Game-blogger who says you can be red-pilled married if you are “aware”. His definition of “Game” is applied to everything – jobs, friends, dates, wife, everything. He says nonsense like “Game recognizes Game.” That’s where this game stuff is headed unfortunately because it can be used to justify ideologies, like Black Pill has wisely pointed out before on this blog.

  9. Looking at them as sex puzzles, somehow I still had hope that the code could be cracked…but then I would soon realize that women are not sexual puzzles — they are sexual padlocks disguised as puzzles. They only way to open that lock is to have the key, and the only way to get that key is to already have it; if you don’t already have it, you never will.

    You already have the key for that lock. Pretty much every man does. Go out on friday night and see who women are taking home with them: Smelly thugs with missing teeth, etc. Women will write to criminals in prison. If you want to have sex with 1000 banged out skanks in the next couple of years, you can do so. The question a man has to ask himself is, is it worth it to spend the time and effort chasing substandard women, for zero payoff? Lots of other investments give a much higher rate of return.

    • “You already have the key for that lock. Pretty much every man does. Go out on friday night and see who women are taking home with them: Smelly thugs with missing teeth, etc. Women will write to criminals in prison.”

      Here’s the deal: having more teeth, better hygiene and no criminal record means that you meet certain standards that those smelly thugs in bars don’t; these standards are probably really important when it comes to certain things like getting a job, but not when it comes to women. That stuff is completely irrelevant when it comes to attracting women.

      Here’s the only way to know who has that “key” and who doesn’t: history and trajectory. If you have some guy who has a long history of no luck with women, and you don’t see anything changing, even slowly, then he doesn’t have that key, period. When you hit certain age milestones, like 25, 30, 40, etc. and you haven’t hit certain sexual milestones, the writing on the wall cannot be clearer. Some may think that you can play catch-up, but you can’t really. No 5-step plan is going to undo what you have become.

      Furthermore, if a guy like that ends up “meeting someone” later in life, the odds of it turning out not to be what it seemed, blowing up in his face and cleaning him out like a fish are extremely high. “Too good to be true” is the rule in these things. Luck doesn’t turn around like that, because (bad) luck can’t explain decades of incel. By the time you get over 30, if you already had “that key”, you would have had a woman fall out of a tree and land on your dick at least once every two years on average (that’s an exaggeration but you see my point).

      The thing that everyone fails to understand is how easy it is for normal people to get sex and relationships compared to guys who, for no obvious reason, have absolutely no magnetism, attraction or hope — the “key” as we’ve been calling it. Once you realize how big the discrepancy is, you’ll know that it’s a problem you can’t fix — even if you knew what the problem was, that knowledge wouldn’t do you any good.

      You want sex?
      Prostitution.
      That’s the end of the story.

  10. Kooky Dr. Van Nostrand re-writes my material from yesterday with:

    So all this leads back to the same question- how come game coudnt help him keep his wife ? Why couldn’t game help him maintain his incredible alpha awesomeness after marriage? Heck why couldn’t he “game” his kids so they would be impervious to their moms bullshit?

    https://omegavirginrevolt.wordpress.com/2016/08/28/did-game-cause-mysterys-epic-meltdown/#comment-22772

    Did you stay up all night posting on this comment section? lol

    Regards,

    Boxer

    • Dear Jack Donovan lickspittle,

      Perhaps its beyond your IQ level to consider that I live in another time zone.

  11. @tamerlame

    “I have turned against boxer.

    Do not trust people who believe in the Freudian cult.

    He is a typical “manosphere” troll. Spewing pretentious gibberish in a comical attempt to look smart (and yes this where the now discredited Freud comes in). Put a little pressure on these weirdos and they reveal their true colors. I mean he actually posted a Jack Donovan link to whine about my comments against him. LOL what more needs to be said?

      • Here’s goony Jack Donovan; but he’s in a suit, before what I assume to be a crowd of people who paid to listen to him read one of his bizarro white nationalist papers.

        Not that this is any great accomplishment to us normal folks. We have to do things in suits, before crowds. (It’s called being productive).

        When has “stonerwithaboner” been in this position? I’m guessing… never.

        • “We have to do things in suits, before crowds. (It’s called being productive).”

          I’d much rather do this…

          It’s not all about, money, power, pu$$y y’know…

          I’d much rather be “undisciplined” and not do shit I don’t want to do than be “productive.”

          It’s called “opting out” studmuffin..

      • hahahahaha! Boxer is quite a tool! He cites Jack Donovan and Freud(in his “peer reviewed” posts) then bitches then we are jerking off to him. His pseudo intellectual homo buddies at Counter Currents must be wondering what he is doing on this Jew loving blog and quoting the “Jewish degenerate” Freud.

        I think Boxer’s main problem with Freud doesn’t address his personal issue where he doesn’t have the hots for his mom but his dad.

        Hey Boxer you keep forgetting to refer to me as (((Dr. Van Nostrand))).

        • “When has “stonerwithaboner” been in this position? I’m guessing… never.”

          He actually thought he was insulting me by saying that…

          kind of like when I was “fired” from a crappy tech company for refusing a bad contract and the sleazebag owner tried insulting me by saying “Everyone knows you do hardly any work, but you are good at covering yourself.” At least feminist’s know how to hurl an insult that stings….

    • Dear non-Dr. Dr. kook:

      He is a typical “manosphere” troll. Spewing pretentious gibberish in a comical attempt to look smart (and yes this where the now discredited Freud comes in). Put a little pressure on these weirdos and they reveal their true colors. I mean he actually posted a Jack Donovan link to whine about my comments against him. LOL what more needs to be said?

      No one cares whether you guys “turn against” them. I don’t care. I guarantee you that Jack Donovan doesn’t. You’re anonymous kooks, and your illusion of importance isn’t even credible to you.

      I mean, really, all my differences with Jack Donovan aside (he’s not well educated, a freakin’ white nationalist, etc.) he at least has a book out and is doing what he wants to do in the real world. What is it that “tamerlame” and “Dr. Van Nostrand” have accomplished?

      The answer, of course, is nothing.

      Best,

      Boxer

      PS. lolled hard at the fact that you posted here all day whining about me, btw. Do that again tomorrow.

      • Actually it took me all of 5 minutes to demolish your ridiculous claims, not “whole day”. You are such a pussy that you are unable to ahem come out of the closet about your admiration of Jack Donovan but hide behind these lame comments “all my differences with Jack Donovan aside”

        Yup that’s about as believable as you banging any non fat chicks(with dicks)

        • c’mon now, we all know a masculine, red pilled alpha male like Boxer loves the queen of the alt-reich…

          …no, not Milo Y…

          …Anne Colut-i-eh….

          and on that note, a song for our inteleshaul superyor…

      • I see you already left my content makers club.

        I am done with you. I assume you have removed my google plus right?

        Why was you politer dealing with conspiracy theory retards, than people who questioned the cult of Freud? lolol

        • Your insane behavior turned me against you, not just your Freud worship.

          You come across as a smart person when dealing with the cultural Marxists.

          Your insane rationalizations dealing with Freud made you look like a moron and I was shocked, your passive aggressive waffle against other people makes you seem like a nasty grandiose person.

          Also it seems you are trying to gaslight me now. I am not impressed to be honest.

          Also your are projecting your own hangups in that link, with your passive aggressive psychoanalysis of me.

          I did not invest any emotions into you, i just thought you was a smart intelligent man to network with, it seems you are an utter moron.

        • …if you don’t respond, he will call you an intellectual coward, if you do respond, he will have your ip address and email info for doxxing purposes…

          …you can’t win with alt-rite troll bullies…

          …he also called you psychotic but claims to be edjumacated…

          …if that were the case, he would know he can’t make a diagnosis without an interview…

          http://www.webmd.com/anxiety-panic/guide/mental-health-making-diagnosis

          he tried to bully me by my lack of status…

          he cowardly didn’t respond because he can’t bully me by my lack of status…

          what’s next, he says I’m a failure with womyn because I have a small penis and I’m a halfbreed?

          Because his hero Sailerfraud says I’m not fully human on the HBD scale?

          Shame me because I think BD&SM is disgusting and I wouldn’t visit a dominatrix?

          Say I’m not a real man because I am too broke to visit hookers (unlike a richie rich like him)?

          These alt-rities can’t even troll very well…

        • the POS is intellectually dishonest…

          “I’ll let you get back to discussing your Jewish conspiracies and pretending you’re important enough to “doxx” now. ”

          when have I ever discussed Jewish conspiracies? And, it’s not reading comprehension, I said he might try to doxx you, but again he attacks my “status” when I’ve called myself a “low status male” at many places. If he was any more dishonest, he could take David Futrelle’s place….

        • Look at his blog post, let say I am lonely? Why do i deserve laughing at for that? I have never laughed at anyone for being lonely, boxer is sick.

        • He’s just a bully who tries to hide behind big words. He tries to pretend he is educated but his “diagnosis” is way off. He is trying to make you look like a pitiful creature that he is bestowing his pwecious time upon. Making fun of you for “loneliness” is as pathetic as making fun of me for “lack of status.” His hero, Jack Donovan has said that weak men should kill themselves. His hero fetishes soldiers as “real men” and calls other men subhuman. Yet his hero lives off the labor of a boyfreind just like trad-con Judgy Bitch. It’s fake shit when these trad cons attack men. Notice how he can’t defend any of his positions…

      • Boxer. Ummm. I thought the discussion in the comments was about getting laid and/or getting married. How do it go from that to accussing people of doing nothing with their lives?

        “…he at least has a book out and is doing what he wants to do in the real world. What is it that “tamerlame” and “Dr. Van Nostrand” have accomplished?
        The answer, of course, is nothing.”

        Is that what you assume with all male virgins? If a man is not getting laid or at least talking the talk of getting laid, he has accomplished nothing?!?!? If so, you are sounding more and more like a feminist. They have a fear and hatred of the hetereosexual male virgin. They assume the same things as you do. Feminists say that the men who aren’t getting laid must be pathetic losers.

        Any man can get laid if they really wanted to. All a man has to do is put up an act, lie, trick, manipulate, and cheat with a woman to get her into bed especially if such a woman has low-self esteem or is desperate.

        Getting laid is nothing to brag about. Are you putting pussy up on a pedestal? Why don’t you marry one woman and stay with her till death do you part if you are so good at game and getting laid?!?! Why don’t you brag about being able to keep your woman?!?!?

        By the way, you and the others on Dalrock’s blog act as though there is a vwoman for every man. You claim to be against feminism, it is destroying our society, but then turn around and act like there is a woman, a virgin woman, for every man just like that Dave did. That is mathematically impossible. If we assume the earth’s population is 50/50 male/female, and there are players sleeping around with more than 1 woman, well…. Not to mention that abortion has probably killed off potential wives. Is there some sort of portal where infinite women come out of?????? if there was, then there would be probably be a virgin woman for every man, even if 9 out of 10 of those women were defective.

        • ” I thought the discussion in the comments was about getting laid and/or getting married”.

          …No, it wasn’t about that. You bought that topic up in the previous post and even admitted it was off topic. Twice. No-one else is concerned about that.

          The entire premise of this blog is about staying the hell away from women and the reasons as to why this is a valid stance. I am a virgin, because of the nature of women and their potential harm to me I advocate staying that way.

          My sexual urges are not nearly as pressing to convince me to allow a potential liability (female) into my life. I advise against prostitutes as well since I believe having to pay someone for sexual access is frankly demeaning in general towards men. The implication being the common male has no sexual appeal and must pay his wages to be granted acceptance by his female ‘betters’. Disgusting. Then again, all women are prostitutes in some manner so that is likely redundant.

          I want gynocentric society to disappear. Not get my dick wet.

        • In fairness, it is not out of place to discuss getting laid in this particular blog post since about the fraudulent claims of Game.

          One can post experiences which contradict game fundamentals. and sure this entails talking about getting laid.

          The problem I have with Boxer is not that his personal sex life whatever it may be but he feels a need to belittle others here for whatever odd reason, possibly stemming from his low sense of self worth. This includes sexual, intellectual and professional one upmanship of the posters here ,either way all of these claims are questionable IMO. Particularly the claims of intellectual superiority. Anyone who uses arcane trivia and Thesaurus type words to prove a point is to me no better than Don King who uses multi syllable words to order to look smart. This was the MO of rednecks and blacks back in the day(Malcolm X for instance memorized the entire dictionary) And I recognize its variants in the red pill manosphere particularly Heartiste,Roosh etc. This type of thing is really the intellectualism of fools.

          He wishes to drag into the mainstream, deranged cranks and racists like Jack Donovan all the while accusing stonerwithaboner of indulging in anti Semitic conspiracy theories. The sheer level of weaseling and dishonesty is apparent to anyone.

          In short , he is just another manuresphere troll who managed to derail his thread due to the fact that we weren’t subscribing to his awesomeness.

          As to your other points- yes sex isn’t all its cracked up to be. Part of that reason is porn I suppose which does create unrealistic expectations(the filp side is romance novels for women) but even leaving that aside, it is frankly a bit gross because well women’s genitals are grosser than mens. Relatively few women are
          a)Maintain their vag properly for it to be appealing to men AND
          b) Are good in bed AND
          c) Are physically attractive

          You can find a or b or c but all of the above is not really common and hence not that enjoyable. Ill be honest I actually like foreplay and cuddling with naked women to sex as that’s far more enjoyable unless you have a woman who knows what she is doing.

          And I like an affectionate woman even if she is not great in bed. Maybe that’s a lack of maternal affection thing, who knows.

          Admittedly those are my personal quirks and experiences but for the info of incels- most of them are not missing that much. Women are human and all the unpleasantness that comes with being human(more so). I think incels yearn more for womens attention and company than actual sex.

          For those who need to control their sexual urges, well maybe this is my Hindu background but try yoga, meditation . Though careful of certain asanas(postures) as these greatly enhance sex drive rather than inhibit them.

          This is the reason for all the stories of sex crazed swamis LOL.

          Though all in all I think stories of Catholic and Buddhist monks molesting boys as well as mullahs and swamis engaging in less than pristine actions are blown out of proportion by a feminized media who are uncomfortable with the idea of men distancing themselves from women,even if these religions enable tradcon manginas.

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  14. Dear Kooky stonerwithaboner:

    …if you don’t respond, he will call you an intellectual coward, if you do respond, he will have your ip address and email info for doxxing purposes…

    Tamerlame has already disagreed with me on my blog. If your delusions of grandeur were realistic, the Freudians would already be at the poor guy’s house to abduct him.

    https://v5k2c2.wordpress.com/2016/03/31/you-go-girl/#comment-12

    I’ll let you get back to discussing your Jewish conspiracies and pretending you’re important enough to “doxx” now.

    Best,

    Boxer

    • hahahahaha….

      well, you proved everything I’ve ever said wrong….

      NOT

      I just skimmed one article on your blog and didn’t see that he had commented before…

      Still, your comment about his mental health was an extreme cheap shot…

      (and we both know why you are making cheap shots…)

      “You can think I’m dumb just don’t talk to me like I’m dumb.”

      http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/episodes/readmylips/

      You are right in that my being “doxxed” would not harm my “career” at all or cause me a loss in status or friends… In fact, people who know me IRL would be shocked that I could write at what you consider a rudimentary level.

      Now why don’t you link to your “peer reviewed papers” tough guy?

      • This is his response to Tamerlame after TL wished not engage him in conversation anymore:

        Are you psychotic? You realize we’ve never spoken to one another, yes?

        My interaction with you is, in my recollection, limited to a couple of casual (fawning) emails you sent me. You invited me to facetime you a few times, and I always politely declined. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

        I was never your personal friend. While it’s unfortunate that your feelings are hurt, it’s not my problem.

        You should probably grow a spine and get off the internet for a while. It seems like you put way too much stock in online nonsense.

        Best,

        Boxer

        Allegations of insanity?Check
        Threatening to make personal info public? Check
        Accusation of near stalkerish behavior? Check
        Feminine shaming language? Check

        This is pretty much the MO of any female blogger who feels she got the short end of an argument of a male commenter.

        I don’t know what it is with these alt right weirdos that makes them so effeminate and hysterical. They blame the Flouride in the water. Well whatever works for them….

        • I asked him to do a hangout with me and he said he was willing to. Also the offer was a group hangout with others like Alexander MGTOW.

          I invited him to the content makers club, and he joined and took part.

          Boxer is now trying gaslighting.

          Perhaps he is hurt because I didn’t tolerate his bullshit over Freud? The rationalizations and fallacies he committed where those of an utter imbecile, it is amazing.

  15. !Are you psychotic? You realize we’ve never spoken to one another, yes?

    My interaction with you is, in my recollection, limited to a couple of casual (fawning) emails you sent me. You invited me to facetime you a few times, and I always politely declined. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

    I was never your personal friend. While it’s unfortunate that your feelings are hurt, it’s not my problem.

    You should probably grow a spine and get off the internet for a while. It seems like you put way too much stock in online nonsense.

    Best,

    Boxer”

    Disclaimer Boxer was in one of my groups, now he denies being in it, the guy is a bigger fruit cake than I thought.

  16. Boxer’s boy friend is as intellectually dishonest as he is…

    http://stumbleinn.net/forum/showthread.php?19793-Why-Not-Suicide

    And, even if Boxer admitted that Jack Donovan was odious but merely linked to his “bitchy comment” article, well let’s take a closer look. Donovan is saying that because he is a published author his opinion matters more than someone else’s–appeal to authority. He says that if someone complains that is not a valid complaint. Just think, an unethical employer who doesn’t allow employees mandated breaks and expects them to work unpaid overtime, how would they deal with it? By saying that the employees were whiners. Where have we seen that before?

    He can’t even defend any of his points but he considers himself an intellectual?

    Pathetic…

    • Perhaps I am revealing my age a bit here but I have been arguing on the interwebs for nearly 2 decades since I was a teenager. And being a teenager, I was often ignorant and stupid and schooled by those who genuinely knew what they were talking about. As I got older this happened less and less , part of that was due to me well knowing more stuff and mostly being more humble- I tend to talk about the few things I know rather than have opinion on each every topic just to feel like a bigshot. In all my dealings with truly knowledgeable people not once did anyone try to pull ranks (“hey I have a PhD”, “I do this for a living”, “I have been researching this for an x number of years” or my current favorite “I write peer reviewed articles” and “you are a nobody”) but too many posers did. People who know stuff don’t need to prove their credentials , they can just destroy your argument about that particular topic with applying a combinations of facts, common sense, logic and perhaps a dash of rhetoric all written in plain ,simple language.

      Those who attempt to belittle you for not following academic jargon tend to morons themselves.
      They are the intellectual equivalent of the Cargo Cult. Just as the Pacific Islanders believed that laying runaways by itself would compel the planes to land with food and other items(thereby reversing cause and effect), similarly these frauds and posers believe using complicated words make them smart. These words are really remnants of bygone era when a word was closer to Latin or Greek root, the more respectable and scientific it sounded. Particularly the late 19th century no learned person would have said “The fire burned down the house” but instead “The conflagration consumed the edifice”. Both mean pretty much the same thing but the latter was considered proper speech and former fit only for the masses. Lincolns Gettysburg address apparently brought simpler speech back in favor.

      These red pill lot have a hardon for various crank theories of the 19th century whether it is racism,colonial exploitation, agrarianism, meat only (paleo) diets, near Luddite economics,heck some dudes even speak openly of phrenology(skull types determining personality as popularized in the scene in Django Unchained).

      So it is not surprising they take a page from the pseudo intellects of that era and talk like them.

      • “Anyone who uses arcane trivia and Thesaurus type words to prove a point is to me no better than Don King who uses multi syllable words to order to look smart”.

        “They are the intellectual equivalent of the Cargo Cult. Just as the Pacific Islanders believed that laying runaways by itself would compel the planes to land with food and other items(thereby reversing cause and effect), similarly these frauds and posers believe using complicated words make them smart”.

        Its appeal to verbosity, and I’m a huge dissenter of it. Several people I believe make otherwise good points drown it in a sea of babble by doing this and I find it frankly pretentious. A few in recent memory are Paragon (who has posted on this very blog) and Rollo from the website Rational Male.

        I assume one wants to share their information with as many as possible. Look, I understand the various synonyms and vocabulary they insist on using but its simply unnecessary. It simply creates an artificial barrier to a number of people, who otherwise might be interested in indulging that particular idea.

        I believe Einstein himself noted that if a person cannot explain a subject within relatively simple or straightforward means they ultimately do not understand it well themselves. “Keep it simple, stupid”.

        • Rollo hides the lack of meaning and content behind convoluted phrases. It serves the purpose of being useful to ideologies and selling his “ideas”.

          Paragon and a guy called SirTyrionLannister of The Human Mating blog do make the case that using scientific jargon helps them be precise while studying human behavior. This does have the added benefit of tearing apart “game”. I just wish they’d write a summary of their findings to give an overview to the general public.

  17. I asked him to do a hangout with me and he said he was willing to. Also the offer was a group hangout with others like Alexander MGTOW.

    lol – you have my permission to post our “group hangout” (this oughta be fun).

    Boxer was in one of my groups, now he denies being in it, the guy is a bigger fruit cake than I thought.

    Another lie. Read paragraph 4.
    https://v5k2c2.wordpress.com/2016/08/31/freud-on-the-fear-of-loneliness/

    The fact that you’re indulging in daily whining, a month after I cited Freud and hurt your feelings, is not normal behavior. You realize this, yes? Especially bizarre given the fact that we’ve never even spoken to one another.

    Again, you need to quit hanging out with life’s failures on the internet (Dr. Van Nostrand et. al.) If you find meaningful work in your community and a circle of real-world friends, you’ll get a firmer grasp on reality. The internet and all it’s squabbling matches isn’t a place to ground yourself.

    Best,

    Boxer

    • “Again, you need to quit hanging out with life’s failures on the internet (Dr. Van Nostrand et. al.) ”

      I can pull your own “you realize we haven’t met in real life:” routine but unlike you I’m not really butthurt by the opinion of some random troll on the internet.

      As for your armchair psychiatry (which a genuine psychiatrist will simply laugh at), all I will say is- physician heal thyself!

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