117 comments on “Women Get A Pussy Pass When It Comes To Conspiracy Theories

  1. Women’s conspiracy theories are conflated with their desire to present themselves as victims, which makes it all the more effective to justify their regulating men to second class citizens and demanding more and more of…everything.

    Speaking of which, I don’t know if you’ve kept up with PMAFT but these are related:

    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2016/08/women-are-oppressed-by-the-constellations/

    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2016/08/the-feminist-war-on-fire/

    The real travesty is that most men in western society feel the need to condone and enable this buffonery. I can somewhat understand the desire to cater to women to possibly get laid. However this shit goes well ouside mere pandering and into the realm of maladaptive.

    • Catering to women does not improve one’s chances of getting laid.

      Behavior that a woman approves of is not necessarily the same behavior that attracts her sexually.

  2. It seems that female conspiracy theories tie in with what women are interested in- idle gossip about celebrities, relationships and such.
    Just as men as interested in politics and hence are inclined towards conspiracy theories of a political nature.

    Though Hilary Clinton in 1998 almost got away with merging personal(her philandering husbands escapades with Lewinsky) with the political(“vast right wing conspiracy” i.e projecting a conspiracy while behind the scenes she was creating her own conspiracies actual and imagined against her opponents). It was pretty effective at first but unfortunately for her, there was just too much evidence in favor of the Clintons detractors.

  3. I forgot to mention- For whatever the bizarre conspiracy theory that Bristol Palin was the actual mother of Trig Palin and that Sarah Palin was covering it up was promoted not so much by women but by that homosexual British guy who wrote for the Atlantic(I forget his name) as well as the crackpot paleocon Lion of the Blogosphere. Though women hated Palin and may have indulged in other conspiracy theories featuring her(one of them was the claim that Sarah Palin was into witchcraft) they did not take to this much for whatever reason.

  4. Hello Mr. Black Pill, I am a short time reader and this is my first time making a comment.

    I just entered the workforce (as a recent grad) I was hoping you could give readers some tips on how to manage working around women. The women at my workplace have been giving me a hard time and I was interested on what you would have to say about avoiding confrontations with women in the work environment and outside of it.

      • In fairness, women don’t care for female coworkers either

        A classic

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html

        “I hired a team of seven staff and set up an office in Richmond upon Thames, Surrey. While the women I interviewed claimed to be enthused by the idea, they still insisted on high salaries. Fair enough, I thought at the time – they are professionals, and I knew most of them were talented and conscientious because I’d worked with them before.

        But within a week, two cliques had developed: those who had worked together before and those who were producing ‘new ideas’.

        Most days would bring a pointed moment when some people were invited out for lunch or a coffee break – and some weren’t. Nothing explicit was ever said; the cutting rejection was obvious enough.

        Even when we all went to the pub after work, strict divisions remained, made clear according to who sat where around the table and who would be civil – or not – to whom.

        Fashion was a great divider, though in this battlefield everyone was on their own. Hideously stereotypical and shallow as it sounds, clothes were a huge source of catty comments, from sly remarks about people looking over-dressed to the merits of their fake tan application.

        That’s just part of it. Read the whole thing, sounds like hell on earth working in that office

        I worked in a female run company.The GM was a female as were the head of marketing and some of the sales managers. That bitch nearly ran that company into the ground due to her endless meetings, high staff turnover, some chick crying about some stupid crap every other day, resentment by male employees when women were given paid off during their time of the month and males were docked pay when took off for genuine illness, micro management up the yin yang, promotions based on ingroup favoritism than merit, implicitly encouraged formation of cliques and office politics on steroids

        90% of this crap ended when she was fired and a male GM took over.

  5. Rather OT but entertaining nonetheless

    From our socio economic genius, Lion of the Blogosphere

    https://lionoftheblogosphere.wordpress.com/2016/08/21/why-do-americans-love-low-taxes/

    This

    “American’s like low taxes for 1 reason and 1 reason only: America’s large black population.

    That is literally the only reason. If it wasn’t for the knowledge that their tax money would just be going to blacks, American would have similar tax rates and a similar social safety next to Western European countries. ”

    and this

    “But, people aren’t thinking rationally about it, they are thinking with the animal parts of their brain. There’s a part that reviles at the thought of stuff being taken away from them, which is based on instincts from our caveman days when stuff was synonymous with having enough of a stockpile to survive the winter without starving to death. And there’s a part which craves status, and thinks that if only they had the money the government was taking away in taxes, they’d be able to buy the house in a “better” neighborhood or buy the stuff their friends have that they can’t afford; but what their emotions don’t realize is that if everyone gets the same tax cut, then the price of the “better” neighborhood goes up by that much and is still unaffordable, and they still can’t afford to buy the stuff their friends have because now their friends can buy more expensive stuff.”

    I am speechless. It may take an entire book to dissect these few lines of rubbish.

    • “It may take an entire book to dissect these few lines of rubbish.’

      If it were really so untrue, would it take a book to dissect it? Both quotes sound right on to me, I’m a big fan of the Lion.

        • I wouldn’t doubt there is some truth to that. I could see the masses as disapproving of providing social support to minorities and such (and this is something I agree with mind you) but yet it exposes the gynocracy once again because while people don’t like to give away their money to other races they have no issues with letting women run wild with legislation that allows them to steal wealth but directly and indirectly (which benefits the elites as well but women can’t or don’t care to see that).

        • @Ergeniz

          I think opposition to giving money to single mothers had a lot to do with the 1990s welfare reforms. Part of the reason why the Scandinavian countries have more generous welfare states is that even when they don’t get officially married, families are more intact there than they are in America or Britain.

      • Are you also a fan of the Lion when he claimed that for whatever odd reason Sarah Palin was the real mother of Bristols baby or vice versa?(I cant keep track of these crackpot conspiracy theories) and Palin had people killed to keep this secret?

        The guy has a few screws loose.

        Anyway onto his economic “theory”:. When it comes to taxes, most people think rather rationally actually at high enough taxes some people don’t see a point of working hard to move up if they cant keep their earnings and simply phone it in. At a lower tax rate, they may motivated to work harder and be filled with less resentment.
        Also he confuses tax cuts with wage inflation when it comes to housing prices. I mean is this guy even serious?Does he even know the basics of economics?

        As for the lower taxes and blacks dissertation, I suppose Hong Kong has a lot of black people as they have one of the lowest tax rates in the world. And some states in U.S such as Illinois and California have tax rates comparable to Western Europe. Guess what , a lot of blacks in those states!

        I mean even your former hero Ron Paul(why did you throw him under the bus) thought the best tax income rate was before WWI- zero! This earned great applause in Republican debates in 2011.
        Or are you going to tell me that KKK supporter Woodrow Wilson came to into office promising high tax rates so that blacks can benefit.

        I wouldn’t surprise me at all, the cognitive dissonance of Trump supporters is quite amazing.

        • The Palin-Trig thing isn’t as crackpot as it sounds. This guy in business insider says he doesn’t believe in the conspiracy(wouldn’t want to be one of the rubes) but lays out much of the evidence that Palin’s side of the story makes no sense:

          http://www.businessinsider.com/sarah-palin-trig-birth-2011-4?page=1

          I think the more likely alternative to Bristol being the mother of Trig is that Palin was considering an abortion(because she knew Trig had down syndrome) but ultimately decided not to go through with it.

          I rather doubt that the effect of high tax rates at the high end. If you’ve got 15 million dollars in the bank, how much difference does it make if your after tax annual income is 1 million dollars vs 1.5 million dollars? If you want more and more and more, you’re not going to care one way or another, you are going to accept the position as a CEO. If you think 15 million is plenty, you aren’t going to care one way or another either, so if you do go to work as a CEO, it will be for non-economic reasons, as you enjoy the work or it’s part of your self identity as a successful businessman or because it gives you high status.

          In any case, Lion’s point wasn’t about why should you support low taxes, it’s about why do people support low taxes. The average idiot voter could not understand your comment or mine. If they support low taxes, it is either because a smart person told them to(a friend, relative, or someone on Fox News) or because of emotional reasons, among them I think Lion’s analysis and the fact that Blacks benefit from government spending is correct.

          “Also he confuses tax cuts with wage inflation when it comes to housing prices. I mean is this guy even serious?Does he even know the basics of economics?”

          I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying. Suppose the government found an ocean of oil under a mountain in Montana and suddenly could afford to reduce the middle class’s taxes dramatically. Would this not be expected to lead to a rise in people’s after-tax income, and a corresponding inflationary effect when it comes to products the middle class consumes?

          “Or are you going to tell me that KKK supporter Woodrow Wilson came to into office promising high tax rates so that blacks can benefit.”

          The primary reason for the income tax amendment of 1912 was prohibition. At the time the income tax amendment was passed, 1/3rd of the federal government’s revenues came from taxing alcohol.(The rest came mostly from land sales and tariffs) Prohibition was gaining support but the government needed the alcohol revenues, so the income tax was supposed to give them an alternative. Yes, the socialists supported an income tax for other reasons, but notice that Wilson never enacted nor had any inclination to enact any of their policies. WWI broke out soon after and the income tax proved quite convenient, but after it was settled and the war debt was paid, income tax rates in the 1920s returned to very low levels, the vast majority of Americans paid no income tax. The present high-tax regime can be traced back to a combination of New Deal programs and greatly increased military expenditures during and after WWII, as well as later Great Society programs, not to the 1912 income tax amendment.

  6. “For example, you don’t see skeptics spending time on exposing conspiracy theories like the incel virgin domestic terrorist organization conspiracy theories or the conspiracy theory that the MRM has taken over local, state, & federal law enforcement along with the national security & intelligence agencies.”

    It’s arguable whether those are even “conspiracy theories” at all, the term “conspiracy theory” has come to mean “any accusation of wrongdoing I don’t like.” If Germany won world war II, it would be treated as an absurd conspiracy theory the idea that German operatives dressed up in Polish uniforms and attacked a German radio station in order to provide a pretext to invade Poland. Yet that’s what happened:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

    I read today a good article on the origin of the “conspiray theory” meme:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-how-the-cia-invented-conspiracy-theories/

    • Women do indeed engage in conspiracy theories.

      Take for example, their most infamous ones, the “Patriarchy” and the supposed “Oppression of women throughout history”.

      The only difference between this and the typical theories of the manosphere is that the accusations of women are clearly outed as lies with any casual look at history and statistics/facts. Others are the ‘wage gap’, ‘the 1 in 4 rape statistics’ and such. All conspiracy theories and all clearly lies.

      Just like any other conspiracy theorists women clearly make these accusations to suit their own ends; justifying their victim status and using it to take from men.

      • “The notion that nineteen Arabs armed with box-cutters hijacked several jetliners, easily evaded our NORAD air defenses, and reduced several landmark buildings to rubble would soon be universally ridiculed as the most preposterous “conspiracy theory” ever to have gone straight from the comic books into the minds of the mentally ill, easily surpassing the absurd “lone gunman” theory of the JFK assassination.”

        I stopped reading here. Everytime I go to unz.com I feel like taking a shower afterwards but there are still some intelligent and sane commenters who appear occasionally on Steve Sailers blog and my comment also slip by the thin skinned crybaby Sailers moderation radar.

        As for the crap above, I mean is this guy Unz. for real? The main flaw in conspiracy theory is the notion that government agencies are these hyper competent and efficient bodies with near omniscient and omnipotent powers. He actually believes it is that is impossible to bypass NORAD defenses when

        1) This was the most spectacular and ambitious terrorist attack in history
        2) It was shown that CIA and FBI pieces of the puzzle in place to stop the attacks but couldn’t due to inter departmental rivalry
        3)These “mere” 19 Arabs with boxcutters. spent years training for that very day. A lot of money, logistical support, research and plain dumb luck contributed to the success of their mission
        4) NORAD goofed up on more than one occasion prior to 9/11

        All these facts are beyond dispute and this guy comically claims that NORAD of all things could stop it?
        How exactly? Does NORAD monitor flight manifests for suspicious names? Do flight training schools report suspicious students to NORAD?NORAD was formed with in the Cold War era with that mission in mind i.e a foreign attack from the Soviets or their allies. Yes, it claims to combat domestic attacks such as flight hijackings but those are really an after thought and NORAD isn’t really cut out for that. Heck even to this day.

        The comments are a fever swamp of lunacy and tin foil hat ramblings. You would be right at home there, please return to where you came from. And while you are there , ask them why Ann coulter keeps “cucking” you for black men.

        Regards

        • wouldn’t doubt there is some truth to that. I could see the masses as disapproving of providing social support to minorities and such (and this is something I agree with mind you) but yet it exposes the gynocracy once again because while people don’t like to give away their money to other races they have no issues with letting women run wild with legislation that allows them to steal wealth but directly and indirectly (which benefits the elites as well but women can’t or don’t care to see that).”

          People don’t want their money going to lazy layabouts of any race,even their own. This was one of the reason Scandinavian countries started reforming their economies.

        • You cut a few sentences out which makes it seem like Unz believes in 9/11 conspiracies. He’s merely saying that the people are gullible enough to be led to believe them. Here’s the full paragraph:

          Put another way, there are good “conspiracy theories” and bad “conspiracy theories,” with the former being the ones promoted by pundits on mainstream television shows and hence never described as such. I’ve sometimes joked with people that if ownership and control of our television stations and other major media outlets suddenly changed, the new information regime would require only a few weeks of concerted effort to totally invert all of our most famous “conspiracy theories” in the minds of the gullible American public. The notion that nineteen Arabs armed with box-cutters hijacked several jetliners, easily evaded our NORAD air defenses, and reduced several landmark buildings to rubble would soon be universally ridiculed as the most preposterous “conspiracy theory” ever to have gone straight from the comic books into the minds of the mentally ill, easily surpassing the absurd “lone gunman” theory of the JFK assassination.

    • You want to know what’s wrong with conspiracy theories and why people hate them? It’s has no fucking thing to do with the CIA. It’s because you conspiracy theorists think you have the right to falsely accuse people of being criminals. On top of that you never have any evidence. Most people get very angry when they’re falsely accused of crimes they didn’t commit. Why do you think that you and/or women have the right to falsely accuse me of being part of a domestic terrorist organization? And a nonexistent domestic terrorist organization at that.

      The NSA, the CIA, the FBI, and the rest of law enforcement and the intelligence community have never falsely accused me of anything. You, conspiracy theorists have, and I’m going to make sure you answer for that.

  7. I think the more likely alternative to Bristol being the mother of Trig is that Palin was considering an abortion(because she knew Trig had down syndrome) but ultimately decided not to go through with it. ”

    I don’t wish to discuss this further as there is no point . Just as there is really no point to any of these staged pregnancies in this day and age. This may have made sense in the 1950s when cultural norms were different but why now?

    “I rather doubt that the effect of high tax rates at the high end. If you’ve got 15 million dollars in the bank, how much difference does it make if your after tax annual income is 1 million dollars vs 1.5 million dollars? ”

    That is the for guy who earned that money to decide. Not you or me. In many ways wealth is relative. A hobo who sees you earning says $75000 and you pay $7500 in taxes may think what is the difference is you pay another $1000 dollars ?

    “If you want more and more and more, you’re not going to care one way or another, you are going to accept the position as a CEO.”

    hahaha . Now the demonized CEO trope! The average CEO makes less than mid level football stars or a flavor of the year pop star.

    If you think 15 million is plenty, you aren’t going to care one way or another either, so if you do go to work as a CEO, it will be for non-economic reasons, as you enjoy the work or it’s part of your self identity as a successful businessman or because it gives you high status. ”

    Honestly I have no idea what this statement means.

    “In any case, Lion’s point wasn’t about why should you support low taxes, it’s about why do people support low taxes. The average idiot voter could not understand your comment or mine. If they support low taxes, it is either because a smart person told them to(a friend, relative, or someone on Fox News) or because of emotional reasons, among them I think Lion’s analysis and the fact that Blacks benefit from government spending is correct. ”

    Ok I realize that Lion believes that the average voter is an idiot which is why he believes in a big brother type government taking control.
    But the average voter even if he is an idiot, knows that more money in his pocket is better than less.
    Blacks “benefit” from government spending is not the issue here. And neither is it some unique insight of his LOL. Of course blacks being poor are recipients of welfare whether in terms of money, EBT cards, subsidized housing or other gimmees. And then there are those government jobs where yes blacks are overrepresented. But how does this benefit blacks. There are by percentage of population far more miserable on average than they were in the 1960s.

    DVN:“Also he confuses tax cuts with wage inflation when it comes to housing prices. I mean is this guy even serious?Does he even know the basics of economics?”

    Robert:”I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying. Suppose the government found an ocean of oil under a mountain in Montana and suddenly could afford to reduce the middle class’s taxes dramatically. Would this not be expected to lead to a rise in people’s after-tax income, and a corresponding inflationary effect when it comes to products the middle class consumes?”

    DVN;Inflation occurs when the money supply in an economy exceeds the worth of goods and services produced by that economy. The scenario you envision would not lead to inflation at all. I have lived in the Middle East region, specifically the GCC. They have had oil windfall and inflation was held steady for a long time with no tinkering by the central banks there.

    DVN:“Or are you going to tell me that KKK supporter Woodrow Wilson came to into office promising high tax rates so that blacks can benefit.”

    Robert:The primary reason for the income tax amendment of 1912 was prohibition. At the time the income tax amendment was passed, 1/3rd of the federal government’s revenues came from taxing alcohol.(The rest came mostly from land sales and tariffs) Prohibition was gaining support but the government needed the alcohol revenues, so the income tax was supposed to give them an alternative. Yes, the socialists supported an income tax for other reasons, but notice that Wilson never enacted nor had any inclination to enact any of their policies. WWI broke out soon after and the income tax proved quite convenient, but after it was settled and the war debt was paid, income tax rates in the 1920s returned to very low levels, the vast majority of Americans paid no income tax. The present high-tax regime can be traced back to a combination of New Deal programs and greatly increased military expenditures during and after WWII, as well as later Great Society programs, not to the 1912 income tax amendment.

    DVN: Woodrow Wilson was a progressive and a charlatan , he pretended to be against U.S involvement and against high taxation but once in office he promptly went to work on both. New Deal couldn’t have been possible without Wilson era “reforms”. Many of these were undone by Coolidge and Warren G Harding though not all. New Deal and Great Society are children of the 1910s economic policies.

    • “hahaha . Now the demonized CEO trope! The average CEO makes less than mid level football stars or a flavor of the year pop star.”

      There is a subset of CEOs who make as much as 8 times what the pay of CEOs of comparable German, French or Japanese companies. There is no reason to assume this has made American companies especially profitable.

      “Ok I realize that Lion believes that the average voter is an idiot which is why he believes in a big brother type government taking control.”

      Lion wants a Scandinavian-type welfare state without the anti-male bias and the kebabs. Would that be so bad?

      “DVN;Inflation occurs when the money supply in an economy exceeds the worth of goods and services produced by that economy. The scenario you envision would not lead to inflation at all. I have lived in the Middle East region, specifically the GCC. They have had oil windfall and inflation was held steady for a long time with no tinkering by the central banks there.”

      Not technically, but the result would still be an increase in prices, just as the wage for an Emerati citizen worker has gone up and the price of a Dubai apartment has gone up.

      “DVN: Woodrow Wilson was a progressive and a charlatan , he pretended to be against U.S involvement and against high taxation but once in office he promptly went to work on both. New Deal couldn’t have been possible without Wilson era “reforms”. Many of these were undone by Coolidge and Warren G Harding though not all. New Deal and Great Society are children of the 1910s economic policies.”

      Yes, Wilson wanted to go to war with Germany and lied to the public about it, but I’ve never seen any evidence he wanted high taxes to fund high domestic spending. He wanted taxes to fight a war. He had a whole first term in office before the war, but he never tried to implement any socialistic policies. In terms of domestic policy, his reforms were economically minor and today would be uncontroversial, things like workmen’s compensation and health regulations for meat producers. People on the Right seek to blame Wilson rather than Roosevelt for the “socialistic” state we have now because:

      1. Roosevelt is still a very popular president due to WWII and his New Deal policies are very popular, while most people have only a vague idea of who Wilson was.
      2. Wilson was “racist” so cuckservatives can attack his racism at the same time they are attacking his supposed socialism.

      • Robert:There is a subset of CEOs who make as much as 8 times what the pay of CEOs of comparable German, French or Japanese companies. There is no reason to assume this has made American companies especially profitable.

        DVN: How large is the number of these CEOs who make 8 times as much as their German or Japanese counterparts? And if they are not worth that much, the shareholders and board of directors would let them know. I really don’t know why it bothers people so much what some other dude is being paid. The only thing that explains this is envy.

        BTW in European countries, because it is so hard to fire people, it is conversely near impossible to hire them and hence the higher unemployment rates in Europe.

        DVN:“Ok I realize that Lion believes that the average voter is an idiot which is why he believes in a big brother type government taking control.”

        Robert:Lion wants a Scandinavian-type welfare state without the anti-male bias and the kebabs. Would that be so bad?

        DVN: It does not matter what Lion himself wants. The American voters decided they don’t care for that type of model. And you are living in the past. Scandinavian countries are reforming their economies and undoing their welfare state. Kebab or no kebab.

        “DVN;Inflation occurs when the money supply in an economy exceeds the worth of goods and services produced by that economy. The scenario you envision would not lead to inflation at all. I have lived in the Middle East region, specifically the GCC. They have had oil windfall and inflation was held steady for a long time with no tinkering by the central banks there.”

        Robert:Not technically, but the result would still be an increase in prices, just as the wage for an Emerati citizen worker has gone up and the price of a Dubai apartment has gone up.

        DVN: Hahahaha! You have NO IDEA what you are talking about. Let me clue you in since I lived and worked in the UAE and visit there time to time. Food prices have remained pretty much the same over the years, allowing for the occasional drought in India and Lebanon (from where they import most of their vegetables and meat).Of course the ethanol rubbish really spiked the food prices between 2006-2008.The UAE dirham hasn’t really seen a lot of
        fluctuation vis a vis the U.S dollar.

        UAE residents, 80% of whom are foreigners would laugh at the idea of “Emirati citizen worker” – there are no blue collar Emiratis apart from stray fishermen and Bedouin camel herders , both of which are a very small minority in the Emirati community. UAE like other countries had real estate boom and busts. The major bust was in the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis. Dubai had just too much real estate developments but demand was less than forthcoming. And now there was another one at the end of 2014 related to the slump in oil prices. Right now the economy there is pretty bad. Prices of apartments in Dubai have fallen considerably though not as much as in 2010.

        “DVN: Woodrow Wilson was a progressive and a charlatan , he pretended to be against U.S involvement and against high taxation but once in office he promptly went to work on both. New Deal couldn’t have been possible without Wilson era “reforms”. Many of these were undone by Coolidge and Warren G Harding though not all. New Deal and Great Society are children of the 1910s economic policies.”

        Robert:Yes, Wilson wanted to go to war with Germany and lied to the public about it, but I’ve never seen any evidence he wanted high taxes to fund high domestic spending. He wanted taxes to fight a war. He had a whole first term in office before the war, but he never tried to implement any socialistic policies. In terms of domestic policy, his reforms were economically minor and today would be uncontroversial, things like workmen’s compensation and health regulations for meat producers. People on the Right seek to blame Wilson rather than Roosevelt for the “socialistic” state we have now because:

        1. Roosevelt is still a very popular president due to WWII and his New Deal policies are very popular, while most people have only a vague idea of who Wilson was.
        2. Wilson was “racist” so cuckservatives can attack his racism at the same time they are attacking his supposed sociali

        DVN: As I said Woodrow Wilson was a progressive and loved himself some high taxes and wars in which the U.S had no pressing interest other than some ideological fiddle faddle about “democracy” which was really thinly disguised racial supremacy. Wilson was also following in Roosevelts footsteps in trying to create a U.S empire though not on the British model but its earlier avatar as trading companies as an arm of the state.

        Pretty much everyone was racist by modern standards back then . But Wilson was a special case, he indulging in segregation and elbowing blacks out of government jobs. He promoted racist theories dressed up in scientific jargon which were much appreciated by Hitler and company.

        And yes white nationalists love themselves some socialism, immigration restriction ,unions, tariffs etc etc. They even go around stating rubbish like “tarrifs built America” The simple reason is most of the white nationalists are borderline illiterate and incompetent and the aforementioned actions on part of the government are the only ways that may ensure they have a job. They sure as heck cant compete in a free market. Whether it comes to jobs or women. And yes this is where your “cuckservative” idiocy comes in. You still haven’t addressed my question about Trump cheerleader Ann Coulter or even Laura Ingraham. Both of whom practically fellated Obama “charismatic, handsome” were adjective that repeatedly came up.

        • “DVN: It does not matter what Lion himself wants. The American voters decided they don’t care for that type of model. And you are living in the past. Scandinavian countries are reforming their economies and undoing their welfare state. Kebab or no kebab.”

          I wouldn’t be so sure. America’s coming non-White majority sure loves its socialism. The young whites too, love the idea of handouts. I imagine Bernie Sanders could easily win an election against someone like Cruz and would have a good chance of beating a cuckservative like Bush. You can get back to me about the “undoing” of the Scandanavian welfare states when government spending as a percentage of GDP in those countries falls to the level of America and Britain. I won’t be holding my breath.

          “They even go around stating rubbish like “tarrifs built America.”

          Tarrifs did help to build America. Britain, Germany, Japan, and South Korea too.

          “They sure as heck cant compete in a free market. Whether it comes to jobs or women.”

          I would have thought on this blog by an admitted virgin, commenters wouldn’t make those kinds of arguments. Apparently not.

  8. @Robert


    You cut a few sentences out which makes it seem like Unz believes in 9/11 conspiracies. He’s merely saying that the people are gullible enough to be led to believe them. Here’s the full paragraph:

    Put another way, there are good “conspiracy theories” and bad “conspiracy theories,” with the former being the ones promoted by pundits on mainstream television shows and hence never described as such. I’ve sometimes joked with people that if ownership and control of our television stations and other major media outlets suddenly changed, the new information regime would require only a few weeks of concerted effort to totally invert all of our most famous “conspiracy theories” in the minds of the gullible American public. The notion that nineteen Arabs armed with box-cutters hijacked several jetliners, easily evaded our NORAD air defenses, and reduced several landmark buildings to rubble would soon be universally ridiculed as the most preposterous “conspiracy theory” ever to have gone straight from the comic books into the minds of the mentally ill, easily surpassing the absurd “lone gunman” theory of the JFK assassination.

    Actually he is speaking from both sides of his mouth. He believes in conspiracy theory but tries to strive for “respectability” by making the false distinction between good and bad conspiracy theories.

    He says it in a very roundabout , passive aggressive and meta manner but yeah he is a 9/11 truther and JFK assassination loon.
    Pretty much every one at Unz is to some extant or another.

  9. “DVN: It does not matter what Lion himself wants. The American voters decided they don’t care for that type of model. And you are living in the past. Scandinavian countries are reforming their economies and undoing their welfare state. Kebab or no kebab.”

    Robert:I wouldn’t be so sure. America’s coming non-White majority sure loves its socialism. The young whites too, love the idea of handouts. I imagine Bernie Sanders could easily win an election against someone like Cruz and would have a good chance of beating a cuckservative like Bush. You can get back to me about the “undoing” of the Scandanavian welfare states when government spending as a percentage of GDP in those countries falls to the level of America and Britain. I won’t be holding my breath.

    DVN: So let me see if I understand this , Scandinavian socialism -good because whites are recipients and American socialism is bad because non whites are the recipients. Once again I ask you people but you keep avoiding the question- Why should I pay for anyone else’s life? If you like doing it so much, do it yourself. Oh wait, as a Trump supporter you are probably incapable of gainful employment. Guess that explains a lot. And speaking of cuck, it seems that Mrs. Trump a former nude model who unclad photos are available to black youth to fap to may have also been an escort! LOL wouldn’t surprise me at all.

    You are an idiot when it comes to economics or pretty much anything so let me explain this to you in the simplest way I can. Economies cant reform overnight, so I cant “get back to you” on Scandinavia reducing its government spending within perhaps a decade.
    If you have to be snarky, atleast try and have some facts and logic on your side lest you end up looking like a fool(more so).

    DVB:“They even go around stating rubbish like “tarrifs built America.”

    Robert:Tarrifs did help to build America. Britain, Germany, Japan, and South Korea too.

    DVN: hahaha , not this garbage again. Long story short- both tariffs and socialism are similar in that while they do have a life span its not a very long one. Eventually just as socialism runs out of everyone else’s money, with tariffs you run out other coutnries good will and they pay you back in the same coin.

    DVN:“They sure as heck cant compete in a free market. Whether it comes to jobs or women.”

    Robert:I would have thought on this blog by an admitted virgin, commenters wouldn’t make those kinds of arguments. Apparently not.

    DVN: Black pill is not the one who is calling other stupid names like “cuckservatives”. BP is gainfully employed and successful. White nationalists tend to be neither successful with women nor are financially secure. Hence they are Trump supporters.

    • “Robert:I wouldn’t be so sure. America’s coming non-White majority sure loves its socialism. The young whites too, love the idea of handouts. I”

      The lack of socialism for men is the problem, America has less handouts than Europe, and it a far shittier place.

      • Have you been to Europe?. I can assure America is far freer, more comfortable place to live than Europe.

        “The lack of socialism for men is the problem, ”

        Great lets make men as incompetent and lazy as women! Problem solved!

        • Have you been to Europe?”

          oops I take that back. I remember from one of your videos you had a British accents so I assume you have been to Europe or know much about it atleast.

          However as someone who is neither of European or American background, Ill say this , while America is less charming and quaint than Europe it is more free. I realize how clichéd that sounds but its true.

        • “Have you been to Europe?. I can assure America is far freer, more comfortable place to live than Europe.”

          Nope, American is a right wing shit hole, with higher rates of imprisonment of men, loads of prison rape, child support enforcement that leads to imprisonment, and a crumbling infrastructure, due to a lack of investment.

        • “I have no idea what I am talking about and have never been to the US”. – tamerlame

          Thanks for the confirmation.

        • “that is not a reply, that is a non sequitur”.

          Implying that your childish insults are any less worthless or meaningful.

    • “DVN: So let me see if I understand this , Scandinavian socialism -good because whites are recipients and American socialism is bad because non whites are the recipients. Once again I ask you people but you keep avoiding the question- Why should I pay for anyone else’s life?”

      To give a better deal to the working classes. People are of course less willing to give money to people they feel alienated from. Whites don’t want to pay to support ungrateful blacks, libertarians are typically hostile to the white working class, seeing them as unworthy of the benefits of national membership they get by virtue of being born into a first world society. I would support the creation of a libertarian society, perhaps someone could buy up one of those Polynesian islands, to absorb the population of allegedly self-reliant libertarians who, due to their far superior value-creation abilities, would no doubt turn it into a nation of millionaires. Or maybe not.

      “You are an idiot when it comes to economics or pretty much anything so let me explain this to you in the simplest way I can. Economies cant reform overnight, so I cant “get back to you” on Scandinavia reducing its government spending within perhaps a decade.”

      Didn’t it take a decade for George Bush to reduce government spending? Here’s a laugh, Heritage’s analysis of Bush’s 2001 tax cuts:

      http://origin.heritage.org/research/reports/2001/04/the-economic-impact-of-president-bushs-tax-relief-plan

      These “reforms” tend to follow the same pattern: right wing party gets in power, pledges to “cut government waste,” sometimes does so, but leaves the 98% of spending intact because that spending is popular with the public. The Nordic nations have been “reforming” for nearly too decades now.

      “Long story short- both tariffs and socialism are similar in that while they do have a life span its not a very long one. Eventually just as socialism runs out of everyone else’s money, with tariffs you run out other coutnries good will and they pay you back in the same coin.”

      You mean the way America has retaliated against Japan’s protectionist measures? Oh wait…..

      I would actually support free trade if it were actual, real free trade, not non-reciprocal, cuckold policy we have now.

      “DVN: Black pill is not the one who is calling other stupid names like “cuckservatives”. BP is gainfully employed and successful. White nationalists tend to be neither successful with women nor are financially secure. Hence they are Trump supporters.”

      The working classes are less likely to believe in nonsense dreamed up by the intelligentsia. They believe what is in front of their eyes, thus they are much less likely to believe in feminism, anti-racism, blank-slatism, ect. You seem to display libertarian views, thus it is particularly ironic that you, a commenter on this blog, are calling someone else “unsuccessful with women” in what was obviously intended as an insult. It didn’t work as an insult, as I do not subscribe to the notion that my views are less valuable because women do not find me attractive.

      • I should add one more thing: I think future historians will look back on our long debates about “socialism” as an enormous waste of mental energy. In 20 years, America will have to institute a basic income or some similar scheme, due to the massive loss of jobs caused by automation.

        • hahahahahahaha! Now we come to the main gripe! Its obvious that our man Robert here is unemployable due to his low IQ and comprehension skills(as seem from his “arguments” here). Hence this wail for “basic income”. And job losses by automation?! ROTFL Luddites like yourself have been crying about this since the early 20th century and despite the advances in technology over the years, the employment rate has held steady.

          I suppose its true these red pillers are against technology and civilization as their low IQ makes them fit only to plough fields , the type of job that can be done by a trained mule.

        • LOL at “Dr Van Nostrand” bragging about how he is “gainfully employed” probably by a corp who would fire his ass in seconds if they ever found out about his anti-feminist views and whose management probably makes jokes about how he is a nerd behind his back.

          Your IQ would appear a little higher if you could learn to spell.

      • Robert:To give a better deal to the working classes. People are of course less willing to give money to people they feel alienated from. Whites don’t want to pay to support ungrateful blacks, libertarians are typically hostile to the white working class, seeing them as unworthy of the benefits of national membership they get by virtue of being born into a first world society. I would support the creation of a libertarian society, perhaps someone could buy up one of those Polynesian islands, to absorb the population of allegedly self-reliant libertarians who, due to their far superior value-creation abilities, would no doubt turn it into a nation of millionaires. Or maybe not.

        DVN: LOL talk about strawman constructions. I think I am reapeating for the third time that no one wants to give money to anyone other than their close relatives(what is with Trump supporters and their extreme obtuseness?). I don’t know what you mean by libertarians exactly as that term is so nebulous it can mean a whole host of things. Certainly your buddies who worship Ron Paul while simultaneously crave a royalty also call themselves libertarians. I don’t known what you are rambling on about buying up a Polynesian island.

        Robert:Didn’t it take a decade for George Bush to reduce government spending? Here’s a laugh, Heritage’s analysis of Bush’s 2001 tax cuts:

        http://origin.heritage.org/research/reports/2001/04/the-economic-impact-of-president-bushs-tax-relief-plan

        DVN: ROTFL when did I EVER defend George Bush’s economic policies specifically with regard to government spending. It seems these white nationalists are not contributing anything of value to the debate.

        Robert:These “reforms” tend to follow the same pattern: right wing party gets in power, pledges to “cut government waste,” sometimes does so, but leaves the 98% of spending intact because that spending is popular with the public. The Nordic nations have been “reforming” for nearly too decades now.

        DVN: I think it is close to less than a decade , but that is how long it takes. What is the alternative ? Throw in the towel and simply become insolvent ala Argentina in the late 90s?

        DVN:“Long story short- both tariffs and socialism are similar in that while they do have a life span its not a very long one. Eventually just as socialism runs out of everyone else’s money, with tariffs you run out other coutnries good will and they pay you back in the same coin.”

        Robert:You mean the way America has retaliated against Japan’s protectionist measures? Oh wait…..

        DVN: I was waiting for this :D. There are so many caveats to the Japan example that I am spoiled for choice. Lets start with Japan being a U.S protectorate to this very day. And having a paternalistic attitude combined with guilt about Hiroshima, they let Japan get away with this sort of thing. But then again Japan doesn’t export stuff but also jobs. It has factories in U.S which accounts for a good chunk for blue collar white employment stats.
        Also I don’t think you heard of the stagflation which hit Japan nearly 3 decades ago and its still struggling from. The Japanese while a first world nation, their quality of life cannot compare to that of U.S. Everything is horrendously expensive.

        Rorbert:I would actually support free trade if it were actual, real free trade, not non-reciprocal, cuckold policy we have now.

        DVN: Puhleez, this is the sort of weasely argument every tariff lover and protectionist knuckle dragger engages in. Free trade doesn’t deal with governments but people making free choices of what to buy or sell. If they don’t want to buy your crap product(Trumpism or white nationalism), don’t hold it against them. Speaking of cuck, you keep side stepping my question about Ann coulter, Laura Ingraham and nude model/former escort Melania Trump(its possible she serviced various African dictators). I wonder why?

        “DVN: Black pill is not the one who is calling other stupid names like “cuckservatives”. BP is gainfully employed and successful. White nationalists tend to be neither successful with women nor are financially secure. Hence they are Trump supporters.”

        RObert:The working classes are less likely to believe in nonsense dreamed up by the intelligentsia. They believe what is in front of their eyes, thus they are much less likely to believe in feminism, anti-racism, blank-slatism, ect. You seem to display libertarian views, thus it is particularly ironic that you, a commenter on this blog, are calling someone else “unsuccessful with women” in what was obviously intended as an insult. It didn’t work as an insult, as I do not subscribe to the notion that my views are less valuable because women do not find me attractive.

        DVN: Except free trade isn’t nonsense dreamed by the intelligentsia but its opposite-neo Luddite protectionism ,economic nationalsm,tariff and guaranteed basic income(hahahahahaha) which you espouse.
        As BP has shown that those who use stupid terms like cucks are vagina worshippers and therefore implicit feminists.
        As the point about being “unsuccessful with women” I don’t know if you are really this stupid or just pretending so that I wouldn’t belabor the point. But I will- Let me repeat. BP never claimed to be successful with women . But those who go around calling other people “cuck” are by implication themselves not cucks but secure in their sexual appeal. My position is that you are neither successful with women nor are you financially secure as follow up post below proves.

        • “I think I am repeating for the third time that no one wants to give money to anyone other than their close relatives(what is with Trump supporters and their extreme obtuseness?). ”

          So that explains why socialist parties never win elections. How could I have been so blind.

          “And having a paternalistic attitude combined with guilt about Hiroshima, they let Japan get away with this sort of thing. ”

          No, we’ve let anyone who wants to get away with this sort of thing. Originally, it might have been justified in order to build up Japan, Korea, ect as American allies, but it no longer can. I find it quite ironic that the neocons who go on about how we need massive military spending to counter China are ardent supporters of America’s cuckold trade policy with China. Trump will crack down on them.

          “The Japanese while a first world nation, their quality of life cannot compare to that of U.S. Everything is horrendously expensive.”

          When people come from India to the US they find that “everything is horrendously expensive.” That’s what happens when you move from a country where workers are paid poorly to one in which workers are paid well. Japan is a better place to live, certainly, for the bottom 75% of the population, who get a much better deal than they would in America. The upper middle class have it worse economically, but have much less worry about crime or their neighborhood suddenly being “re-zoned” into an “integrated” school district or their daughter emulating the American party-slut lifestyle.

          “Speaking of cuck, you keep side stepping my question about Ann coulter, Laura Ingraham and nude model/former escort Melania Trump(its possible she serviced various African dictators). I wonder why?”

          It’s because I cannot possibly refute all the totally solid evidence you have provided.

          “But those who go around calling other people “cuck” are by implication themselves not cucks but secure in their sexual appeal.”

          No, a cuck is someone who allows himself to be exploited.

  10. Or, you haven’t heard much about women’s conspiracy theories because they’re simply too ridiculous and unimportant to interest anyone above the eighth grade.

  11. DVN: Nope wrong analogy. I moved from India to U.S and anticipate things would be expensive because its a better lifestyle as everything be it service, products, housing, education etc is of superior qualityJapan is a different case as you don’t get the same bang for your buck and that is due in large part due to import tariffs on various goods.

    Robert:Japan is a better place to live, certainly, for the bottom 75% of the population, who get a much better deal than they would in America.

    DVN: hahahahaha ! An average Japanese would laugh at this statement. Ask the Japanese salaryman who has to work 16 hours a day and has an almost feudal attachment to his company and the strict hierarchal organization. Not to mention the match box style apartments and stunted social life.

    Robert:The upper middle class have it worse economically, but have much less worry about crime or their neighborhood suddenly being “re-zoned” into an “integrated” school district or their daughter emulating the American party-slut lifestyle.

    DVN: You simply have no clue about anything. Japan is a byword for decadence and perversion. Japanese girls are no more likely to remain virgins before marriage than your average white state college chick. Heck , they even go as far as to cuckold their own men for white foreigners. Havent you heard of the whole herbivore phenomenon affecting Japanese men? The idea that you compare the Japanese situation favorably to American is comical.

    DVN::“Speaking of cuck, you keep side stepping my question about Ann coulter, Laura Ingraham and nude model/former escort Melania Trump(its possible she serviced various African dictators). I wonder why?”

    Robert:It’s because I cannot possibly refute all the totally solid evidence you have provided.

    DVN: Having known various women from Eastern Europe and Russia, they told me their opinion on why its likely Mrs. Trump was an escort. And no they are not being catty, they thought the former Mrs. Trump also from that region was much classier.

    As for Coulter and Ingraham, you can look it up.

    DVN:“But those who go around calling other people “cuck” are by implication themselves not cucks but secure in their sexual appeal.”

    Robert:No, a cuck is someone who allows himself to be exploited.

    DVN: I agree, you celebrate being properly cucked by the modern day PT Barnum-Donald Trump.

    • “DVN: Having known various women from Eastern Europe and Russia, they told me their opinion on why its likely Mrs. Trump was an escort. And no they are not being catty, they thought the former Mrs. Trump also from that region was much classier.”

      Some women “from that region” told me, totally proof! LOL at these pathetic and completely ineffective attempts to turn us away from Trump. They tried to make a big deal about Trump wearing a prayer shawl in a Black church, I thought it was hilarious:

      • I don’t see what you are getting at. Trump is trying to scam blacks and Jews into supporting him as well but they don’t seem to be as stupid as white nationalists


  12. LOL at “Dr Van Nostrand” bragging about how he is “gainfully employed” probably by a corp who would fire his ass in seconds if they ever found out about his anti-feminist views and whose management probably makes jokes about how he is a nerd behind his back.”

    Actually if you bothered to read rest of the comments, you will note that I used to work in a female dominated company and found it hellish. I quit before the female GM got fired. And I am self employed. I haven’t stepped foot in the toxic waste dump known as a corporate office in years.

    “Your IQ would appear a little higher if you could learn to spell.”

    hahahhaha! I know I am winning the argument when you have really nothing else. All of your positions are based on ignorance and wishful thinking and are thoroughly refuted. Hey if corrected whatever typos I made makes you feel all intellectual and stuff why not? After all make some use of your Trump University degree!

    • “Actually if you bothered to read rest of the comments, you will note that I used to work in a female dominated company and found it hellish. I quit before the female GM got fired. And I am self employed. I haven’t stepped foot in the toxic waste dump known as a corporate office in years.”

      Interesting, then, that you are nevertheless a libertarian, at least on economic issues. Do you realize libertarianism would further empower those same corporations?

      My period of formal employment was quite similar. The private sector was not the meritocracy the libertarians promised, but was instead a kakistocracy. Government redistribution is frequently not from producers to moochers but from one variety of rent seeking parasites to another variety of rent seeking parasites.

      In terms of inefficiency and corruption, the public sector is worse, but here’s one way in which it is better: if you qualify for unemployment, the unemployment office cares not what clothes you wear, what kind of car you drive, what your political views are, or how tall or pretty or “social” you are. But it is now common procedure for employers to check the facebook pages of potential employees, if you are unwilling to deal with the politically correct, privacy invading, time sink that is facebook, that, I am told, is seen as a red flag.

      You state that those “who are incapable of self reliance in any society are very very few.” The coal miners of victorian England were “self-reliant.” Is that the kind of “self-reliance” you are talking about? While a real-life libertarian regime wouldn’t be that bad, it would throw a lot of Americans into poverty, real poverty, not the joke that passes for it today.

      • Nice of you to bring up coal miners of Victorian England as that era is beloved by Red Pillers and HBD types and they are loathe to hear any criticism of it.
        That era was an umpleasant one was it was a transition between a feudal agricultural economy to an industrialized one. And some people are just stuck at the wrong place at the wrong time like the dune buggy and horse whip manufacturers when the model T took off.

        I am not defending corporate tyranny or government tyranny. But this argument about clothes is silly. I admit I quit one of my first jobs because I found the dress code to be absurd and stifling(literally , the females employees wearing sleeve blouses would turn off the ac but we were expected to bare it in full sleeve shirt and tie).However Corporations have a right to enforce a dress but so do government organizations. It just shows a level of professionalism and discipline to the clients/ citizenry.

        There is a type of libertarian who thinks everything a corporation does is ok and there is nothing a government can do that is good. Of course these guys are the flip side of big government lunacy. I don’t need agree with them anymore than I agree with Obama’s tax and spend governance.

        However libertarians of that sort are few and most libertarians are for civil liberties and they recognize a corporation can violate them just as a government can. So you are creating a strawman by saying that the current business climate is due to libertarians. LOL libertarians have zero say in government or corporate spheres. What you are seeing here is basically a unholy union of government overreach in regulation and political correctness and the corporations love for progressive chic culminating in the bastard of the HR and PR departments staffed overwhelmingly by white chicks. Its funny that Trump supporters have zero to say about them!
        Mexicans, blacks , Jews etc are hardly anywhere in the picture except as tokens for this SJW movement which is a granddaughter of 1910s Progressivism then as now overwhelmingly white gentile.

        Regarding facebook etc, I’m sorry maybe I’m more of an introvert but I don’t see the logic of people doing stupid shit and putting it up on facebook. And that too making their profile public. If job seekers want the world to see you smoking a bong or doing jello shots off some guido’s abs then they should be prepared that there are those who don’t care for that sort of behavior and yes most of those will be your employers. For gods sake, just make your profile private and I realize they are companies who insist on access to your facebook account. And yes this is none of their business.

        All in all, this social media is new to all and its a learning curve. And keep in mind , it realy took off in the midst of the post 2008 recession. Since demand for jobs was greater than supply. If and when the economy gets back to pre 2007 levels then all this may be moot.

  13. @tamerlame

    Nope, American is a right wing shit hole, with higher rates of imprisonment of men, loads of prison rape, child support enforcement that leads to imprisonment, and a crumbling infrastructure, due to a lack of investment.”

    You are talking out of your ass. Atleast America has freedom of speech and freedom to own weapons and shoot some stupid thug if he charges you. The men of Europe are so thoroughly emasculated that it is truly shameful. I have to LOl at your claims that American men have it worse. German, British and Scandinavian misandry is far worse than anything in America. At least in American you can call women out for their horrid actions and not have it labeled hate speech. Europe DOES NOT have free speech. OTOH UK and Europe positively coddle terrorists, you have vermin like Anjem Choudhary talking about Islamic takeover of Britain through jihad and he receives government checks.
    U.S police do not have nogo zones like French and German police do. They will just charge in and smash any miscreants. There are always screams about being insensitive to this or that minority which the gangsters belonged especially during election cycles but that dies down pretty quickly.

    The only crumbling infrastructure is in the big legacy cities such as New York city, LA etc due to rampant corruption unions etc.

    It seems you know absolutely nothing about Europe or America.

    • Another thing-where do you think its easier to go MGTOW, the vast open plains of the Wyoming, Idaho or the Dakotas where a guy can spend his entire life in a cabin with no one the wiser or the “volkish” and nosy Europe. Yes Europeans are truly more community oriented than Americans , that is good thing for those who are socially inclined. But we are talking about MGTOW and escaping from misandric culture. American individualistic culture while a source of loneliness to many is ..as cliche as it sounds…a font of liberty. There is no such option in Europe.

      • ” American individualistic culture while a source of loneliness to many is ..as cliche as it sounds…a font of liberty.”

        That is why they have child support imprisonment, a war on drugs, and a highly nationalist conformist culture?

        Sound like a typical American who is up his own ase about how great his country is when it is the most misandric first world country.

        What about the police? From no knock raids, to their slimey tactics to get parking tickets.

        MGTOW is not libertarianism or ghosting, stop trying to co-opt it.

    • “You are talking out of your ass. Atleast America has freedom of speech ”

      So I am not talking about of my ass, you just deflect by bringing up another point.

      My point on child support imprisonment stands.

      “OTOH UK and Europe positively coddle terrorists,”

      While the USA arms and trains them.

      “U.S police do not have nogo zones like French and German police do.”

      Neither does the French or German police, I think you are a right wing nut job, reading right wing bullshit.

      “The only crumbling infrastructure is in the big legacy cities such as New York city, LA etc due to rampant corruption unions etc.”

      So Boltimore is not falling apart then?

      You blame a lack of investment in infrastructure on Unions?

      You are a right wing nut job.

      You are anti male, as you will block any attempt by the state to help low status men.

  14. “Great lets make men as incompetent and lazy as women! Problem solved!”

    that is not a reply, that is a non sequitur.

    DVN: By giving a non sequitur to a craptacular claim, I am being rather generous I think.

    tamerlame says:

    September 10, 2016 at 11:20 pm

    do you believe pure free markets work Dr Van?”

    When you ask such questions keep in mind you putting yourself in the Dark Enlightenment/Red Pill camp. I already made my position clear in my responses to Robert.

        • you dodged my question for a reason, unless you are an anarcho capitalist metal defect, you know pure free markets do not work, and society needs some form of government intervention,.

          you would most likely let men rot on the streets anyway.

          I am out for real, most of the men here are closet alt right red pill types, or they are obsessed with women.

        • It seems to me that Black Pill, the owner of this blog, has said that manosphere types and misandrists will always come and post comments on this blog and that they’ll be exposed here and then he gives credit to good commentators. And overall the blog is pro – male and pro – MGTOW.

        • I would like to make my position absolutely clear that even you may be able to understand

          I am pro free markets, pro capitalism, anti government intervention, anti union thuggery anti corporate malfeasance, anti welfare parasitism, pro free speech and pro guns. While you being a fan of the European model are a fan of hate speech laws, massive taxation, micro management by a faceless beurocracy, gun control, welfare state, feminism and misandry as state policy etc. etc.

          One of these is beloved by Red Pill/Dark Enlightenment as well as feminists and another by MGTOW folks. Can you guess which is which?

        • so you are an anti male mental defect.

          Fuck it lets reply to this dribble.

          “. While you being a fan of the European model are a fan of hate speech laws, massive taxation, micro management by a faceless beurocracy, gun control, welfare state, feminism and misandry as state policy etc. etc.”

          I am against hate speech laws, USA has massive taxation, and what the USA spends it on is a bloated military, pensions and on it’s health system.

          So you are pro free market, but you are against Unions? Am I correct on that? Doesn’t that make you against freedom of association?

        • just an idea (you don’t have to follow it thought)-you could make videos then put the video’s on your blog and not deal with youtube commentors but just the people you have commenting on the blog.

        • “USA has massive taxation”.

          This is true, but you do realize Europe is just as bad if not worse? Its just instead of military, their massive taxation goes towards things like ‘general’ healthcare, propping up the elite and other sorts of socialism (mainly women). Again, the US does this shit too its just two different sides of the same coin.

          Europe is worse because of things like the migrants (who are also leeching off of the welfare system). Both countries are in decline, but Europe is substantially further along in its degeneration.

        • You have to be delusional to think europe is worse than the USA.

          Prison rape. worse poverty. child support imprisonment, nutty trad con Christians all over the place.

          I am sorry but you are most likely another ignorant american.

        • “their massive taxation goes towards things like ‘general’ healthcare, […] and other sorts of socialism”-Ereniz

          I honestly don’t think that this is generally a bad thing. Of course, it depends on how it’s set up. Having to pay high taxes for few benefits in return is obviously undesirable.

        • @tamerlane

          Prison rape is mainly a problem for those who are in prisons. “Worse poverty?” Nope, America’s poor live better than those in Europe. They don’t receive as generous welfare, but they don’t need it as much. Look at the size of American houses compared to Europe, the proportion of Americans who own cars, ect.

          If you want to get away from “trad con” Christians, there’s many places you can go where they are as rare as Europe. I personally dislike Christianity, but Christians are merely annoying unlike the criminals who are coddled and tolerated in almost every European country. Although America has a similarly bad crime rate, it’s entirely caused by the presence of the Blacks, avoid them, you’ll be in a much lower crime zone. In Europe, there’s no where to go, the criminals are not just immigrants but also native whites.

          I’m not pro-capitalist btw, I really don’t care much about economics and don’t think it makes much of a difference.

        • “Prison rape is mainly a problem for those who are in prisons. ”

          Acceptance of it shows a fucked up culture.

          “America’s poor live better than those in Europe. They don’t receive as generous welfare, but they don’t need it as much.”

          Now I know you are talking shit. Europe has a higher standard of living, less violence, less crime.

          USA is a right wing misandrist shithole.

        • tamerlane, what do you mean by “standard of living?” Again, look at the size of European homes and the proportion of Europeans who own cars. Those statistics are hard to fake.

        • You have to be delusional to think europe is worse than the USA.

          “Prison rape. worse poverty. child support imprisonment, nutty trad con Christians all over the place”.

          There are a higher amount of criminals and lower class citizens in the US; most of the crime rate is attributed to black people (‘acknowledged crime’ in any case, if you’re a woman, especially an upper class woman the courts will turn a blind eye) along with the fact the prison system is perpetuated as a source of revenue for various elites. And in the US, once you’ve served time its very difficult to rebuild one’s life after a sentence. Child support and cuckoldry is a problem in all western societies, not just the US. France, for example make illegal to get paternity tests. You actually risk jail time and a fine for trying to prove you were cuckolded. Sweden is one of the most blatantly feminist places out there and Germany is currently under the thumb of Merkel. I know you are aware of the financial situation of Greece. Britain has essentially encouraged gynocentrism and cuckoldry since as early as the 1600’s: http://www.purplemotes.net/2012/10/22/paternity-long-history-of-legal-fiction/

          “I am sorry but you are most likely another ignorant american”.

          I’ve lived in both the US and Europe for a substantial amount of years, so no I’m not just looking up things on the internet and talking out of my ass. I graduated my high school years while living in Wiesbaden, Germany. Have you been to the US?

        • “There are a higher amount of criminals and lower class citizens in the US; most of the crime rate is attributed to black people ”

          Yes most men are idiots.

          That means you.

        • Instead of weak insults in attempt to discredit people you could provide some evidence for whatever claims you are making.

          It is a fact that black people do crimes in disproportion to their population in the United States. Its a fact that most predominately black cities and regions tend towards worse living conditions and degeneracy. Ferguson, Detroit, Augustus in Georgia.

          Yes, I know a large factor (probably the main) factor is due to single motherhood and hence women’s selfish decisions (Blacks have a out of wedlock birthrate well over 70% in the US).

          That doesn’t change the final outcome of things.

          You don’t understand it, because blacks in the UK/Britain are a completely different story. You haven’t lived in the US. So stop talking as if you understand how it is.

  15. “you dodged my question for a reason, unless you are an anarcho capitalist metal defect, you know pure free markets do not work, and society needs some form of government intervention,.

    I didn’t dodge anything dipshit. I told you that you can find my defense of the free markets in my response to Robert. I wont spoonfeed or do your homework for you.
    You sound like someone on the dole like our main man Robert.Am I guessing correctly?

    • To elaborate- I don’t believe in helping strangers because they have a vagina but it doesn’t mean I want to help them just because they possess a cock. Those who are incapable of self reliance in any society are very very few. And yes they do need and deserve some government support.

      I’m sure you will somehow translate this into claiming that I support Wall Street bailouts in some sad attempt at intellectual and moral superiority as Red pillers tend to do. If that makes you feel better, go ahead and I wont respond. I wont take that away from you if it helps you get through the day.

      • It boils down to this, regulate the job market so everyone who can work gets to work,, do not regulate it that way and give welfare, or do not regulate and allow people to starve. (Men of course, as women will still be bailed out.)

        • And how exactly do you “regulate” the job market genius? Whenever you invite the government to tinker with the market you get the HR lady hiring SJWs who thinks an accountant putting a pencil in a sharpener constitutes sexual assault. It is obvious you give no thought to any one of your ideas whatsoever.
          I dont care for bailouts for males of females. You keep talking about starving to death. You sound like someone who is utterly incapable of work.

    • I don’t feel ripped off because, other than applying it to the alt-right, what I said is not a new idea. It’s just horseshoe theory, that the far left & far right despite supposedly being on opposite ends of the political spectrum are actually very similar to each other. The only thing I did was show how it was true with the alt-right.

    • Just another lying Jew with his tired “our country was founded on muh equality” argument. In reality, our country was founded on explicit racialism, one of the first acts of congress was the 1790 naturalization act, keeping non-Whites from becoming citizens. It’s a pity they didn’t keep out Jews also, we will have to correct that oversight in the coming decade.

      Trump 2016.

      • Hate to break it to you but the country was founded by Masons, people that you Red Pillers absolutely loathe because they were quite non traditional for their day. Benjamin Franklin preferred Jews over Catholics to be citizens of the nascent U.S as he didn’t trust their “attachment to papacy”. Jefferson wanted to free his slaves but couldn’t because he was deeply in debt.

        Regarding the 1790 act lol, your hero Steve Sailer, a Scots Irish would also be exempt from citizenship as he would likely be an indentured servant. People from the borderlands of Scotland England and Northern Ireland were treated far worse than blacks as they were indentured servants.
        Also women were also excluded from citizenship as well as free blacks, slaves etc.

        Just it passed doesn’t make it a good law.

        Furthermore, BP is not a Jew but a gentile. I don’t know what is it with these white nationalist loons who think anyone who stands up for a Jew is a Jew. Perhaps they find it impossible to imagine someone has well wishers not related to them since they themselves are lacking in friends since are social misfits incapable of holding down a job.

        “Trump 2016”

        ROTFL, at this point I would like to address your point about my female friends and acquaintances opinion about Ivanka and Melania Trump. Yes it is an opinion not based on fact but speculation and circumstantial evidence as that’s all they have to work with.

        But that evidence is much stronger that Trump provides for translating his words into action. I will ask you a very simple question for which I never got a proper answer from any Trumpster- why do you believe him?

        • “Hate to break it to you but the country was founded by Masons, people that you Red Pillers absolutely loathe because they were quite non traditional for their day. ”

          It’s a movement which has varied over time and place. They weren’t super religious which is a plus in my book. They were nothing like the corrupt, Jewified form of Masonry that developed on the continent in the late 19th century.

          I was not saying BP was a Jew, the Jew is the author of that Federalist article, Zubrin, is a Jew.

          “People from the borderlands of Scotland England and Northern Ireland were treated far worse than blacks as they were indentured servants.”

          LOL

          “But that evidence is much stronger that Trump provides for translating his words into action. I will ask you a very simple question for which I never got a proper answer from any Trumpster- why do you believe him?”

          Indeed, how could someone who is the President translate his words into action…..

    • Clearly, its a case of the media trying to cover up the mass rape epidemic of the white female and twist it so as align with the politically correct opinions of the European elite.

      Make no mistake, those brown ape-people cannot resist the sight of the white goddess; they simply can’t control themselves. The white women are completely victims of all this.

      • I see two negative extremes, some white nationalists, a minority of white nationalists certainly, seek to absolve white women of all blame for their actions. They should be condemned. But we too must condemn those like Black Pill who do not acknowledge the role of the Jews. We must send women back to the kitchen and expel the Jews.

        • Black Pill is doing more to fight misandry than white nationalists are ever capable of. Misandry and vagina worship is part of the DNA of white nationalist. All of your adolescent dreams of expelling the Jews will make absolutely no difference to how white women treat you in that Judenfrei paradise of yours.

  16. @tamerlame
    My blog is shit, not happy with it. I will focus on making videos.”

    We are making progress. If you could admit your videos are shit as well then we are good to go.

  17. @tamerlame

    TL:so you are an anti male mental defect.

    DVN: For gods sake man ,expand your vocabulary. English is technically my third language but its your first. Grab your thesaurus or something. By repeating the same insult over and over again ,it is you who sounds retarded not me

    T:Fuck it lets reply to this dribble.

    DVN: You took your own sweet time agonizing over this “dribble” but whatever gets you through the day

    DVN:“. While you being a fan of the European model are a fan of hate speech laws, massive taxation, micro management by a faceless beurocracy, gun control, welfare state, feminism and misandry as state policy etc. etc.”

    TL:I am against hate speech laws,

    DVN: No you are not. The first amendment is what makes U.S so unique and not a “right wing shit hole” as some dole recipients claim. If you were even half serious about your pro male agenda, then you would appreciate America’s tradition of free speec

    TL:USA has massive taxation, and what the USA spends it on is a bloated military, pensions and on it’s health system.

    DVN: LOL when did I EVER defend America’s mode of taxation or its spending? I am just comparing it favorably to Europe? Are you really this stupid?

    TL:So you are pro free market, but you are against Unions? Am I correct on that? Doesn’t that make you against freedom of association?

    DVN: There is nothing “free association” about unions these days. It is simply thuggery and mafia tactics. You are either with them or against them and if youre against them oh boy will they make yourself a living hell. You are just probably upset because your semi literate daddy went up against Thatcher and lost. Am I guessing correctly?

  18. DVN:“You are talking out of your ass. Atleast America has freedom of speech ”

    TL:So I am not talking about of my ass, you just deflect by bringing up another point.

    DVN: I didnt deflect anything. You simply lack reading comprehension and are incapable of understand what others write.

    TL:My point on child support imprisonment stands.

    DVN: Pray when did I ever defend such laws?

    DVN:OTOH UK and Europe positively coddle terrorists,”

    TL:While the USA arms and trains them.

    DVN: Please run along towards your various habitats

    takimag.com
    unz.com
    stormfront.org

    DVN:“U.S police do not have nogo zones like French and German police do.”

    TL:Neither does the French or German police, I think you are a right wing nut job, reading right wing bullshit.

    DVN: Oh for gods sake you irredeemable imbecile, here take a look

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/657520/Europe-no-go-900-EU-areas-police-lost-control

    The Express is hardly a right wing nut job paper either but Im sure you will start claiming that any minute.

    DVN:“The only crumbling infrastructure is in the big legacy cities such as New York city, LA etc due to rampant corruption unions etc.”

    TL:So Boltimore is not falling apart then?

    DVN: Yes it is . It is legacy city, hence the qualifier “such as” . Really you are goddamn stupid. And its Baltimore not Boltimore. If you can pose as an expert on a city atleast spell it correctly.

    TL:You blame a lack of investment in infrastructure on Unions?

    DVN: You have simply no idea of what you are talking about. Investment in private or public enterprises depends on the quality of labor in those areas. And unions are notoriously prone to ballooning costs, delays,etc.Heck infrastructure projects are considered gimmes by corrupt politicians to the crony capitalists and unions who helped elect them. This is really basic stuff. It is shocking I have to explain this to you. Your opinion on anything European or American can be safely ignored from now on.

    TL:You are a right wing nut job.

    DVN: “mental defect” ,”right wing nut job”. Seriously expand your vocabulary.

    TL:You are anti male, as you will block any attempt by the state to help low status men.

    DVN: Correction. I am anti idiot. Be they male or female. I will not however block the state to help men like you …as long as they help feminists. I will prefer idiots and ignorant morons work for the enemy.

    Reply

  19. @White Walker
    DVN:“Hate to break it to you but the country was founded by Masons, people that you Red Pillers absolutely loathe because they were quite non traditional for their day. ”

    WW:t’s a movement which has varied over time and place. They weren’t super religious which is a plus in my book. They were nothing like the corrupt, Jewified form of Masonry that developed on the continent in the late 19th century.

    DVN: LOL what is a “Jewified” mason. In those days, Jews werent even allowed as Masons. It was only later on that they were accepted. I notice you havent challenged my claim that they saw Irish Catholics are Germans as undesirables compared to Jews.

    DVN: I was not saying BP was a Jew, the Jew is the author of that Federalist article, Zubrin, is a Jew.

    WW: So what? Anyway you lot see Jews in every nook and cranny.

    DVN:“People from the borderlands of Scotland England and Northern Ireland were treated far worse than blacks as they were indentured servants.”

    WW:LOL

    DVN: Either you are ignorant of your own history or you laugh at them because you consider yourself up the racial hierarchy of WNs. Either way this is why your movement is doomed to fail.

    DVN:“But that evidence is much stronger that Trump provides for translating his words into action. I will ask you a very simple question for which I never got a proper answer from any Trumpster- why do you believe him?”

    WW:Indeed, how could someone who is the President translate his words into
    action…..

    DVN: Why are white nationalists so dense? My point was why do you believe his stance as Mexican deporting, white worker protecting, Jew bashing, globalist bashing ultra nationalist when his background has been anything but? Not only is he scamming you but you are actually aiding and abbeting his scam by not even asking these basic questions. Surely this is a cult.

    • “DVN: Why are white nationalists so dense? My point was why do you believe his stance as Mexican deporting, white worker protecting, Jew bashing, globalist bashing ultra nationalist when his background has been anything but? Not only is he scamming you but you are actually aiding and abbeting his scam by not even asking these basic questions. Surely this is a cult.”

      In South Africa, it was frequently said that the commies were just using the ANC and the Blacks. Mandela, after taking power, replied by asking why nobody considered that the ANC was just using the communists. Whether or not Trump says what he means, he has helped our cause enormously in the past year, never having stepped foot in the Oval office. A picture expresses it best:

      • I am not a Mandela worshipper to be sure. The guy was human , not a saint despite what his acolytes in the media and Hollywood believe. Yes ANC had ties to communists and Mandela himself was inspired by Marxist ideology. But that doesnt justify apartheid and the cruel mistreat of south African blacks.
        Just FYI I dont care for white Afrikaaners being raped and killed by blacks. either. I believe they have every right to shoot to kill.

        You see, one of the advantages of not being filled with hate and rage all the time is the ability to see humanity in all people and view their actions as a consequence of their circumstances rather than some innate biological drive which is the most favored opinion amongst you racist Im sorry HBD lot.

        Do you really think Trump has helped your cause? Your lot and Trump together isnt even 0+0=0 but -100000-100000= -200000

        In case you havent noticed most people loathe Trump and that includes of his own party members. Most of those who will vote for Trump will only do so because they feel Hilary is more repugnant. To me they are both thoroughly loathesome albeit in different ways. But I dont judge the “hold our nose and pull the lever” supporters too harshly.

        You are simply deluded if you think if a thin skinned narcissit and scam artist like Trump will actually help your cause. Sometimes I wish he would win and he would surely defraud your lot. The schadenfraude would be just awesome

        • Curious what are your issues with Trump, as opposed to Hilary?

          And I phrase this not in disagreement, but as someone who also dislikes both of them.

        • “You see, one of the advantages of not being filled with hate and rage all the time is the ability to see humanity in all people and view their actions as a consequence of their circumstances rather than some innate biological drive which is the most favored opinion amongst you racist Im sorry HBD lot.”

          Right after saying you find rape and murder to be justifiable, you talk about how others are filled with hate and rage. (((Typical))).

          “Do you really think Trump has helped your cause? Your lot and Trump together isnt even 0+0=0 but -100000-100000= -200000”

          How’s your cause doing?

          “In case you havent noticed most people loathe Trump and that includes of his own party members. Most of those who will vote for Trump will only do so because they feel Hilary is more repugnant. To me they are both thoroughly loathesome albeit in different ways. But I dont judge the “hold our nose and pull the lever” supporters too harshly.”

          How’s that different from any other election? You think everyone who voted for Bush liked him? Half of Republicans supported Trump.

          “You are simply deluded if you think if a thin skinned narcissit and scam artist like Trump will actually help your cause. ”

          It’s not theoretical: he already has helped us. We’ve gotten more attention for our views in a few weeks than you’ll get in your entire life.

        • Kakaman:Right after saying you find rape and murder to be justifiable, you talk about how others are filled with hate and rage. (((Typical))).

          DVN: You see this is why your movement will never succeed. It is composed of borderline illiterates and retards like yourself. I said that white Afrikaaners are justifed in shooting blacks who rape and kill them. If you dont know how to read like the rest of your lot, I am not really worried about your cause gaining traction.
          As for the ((())) all I can say is LOL, give it up . Everyone just laughs at this stupid shit now.

          DVN:“Do you really think Trump has helped your cause? Your lot and Trump together isnt even 0+0=0 but -100000-100000= -200000”

          Kakaman:How’s your cause doing?

          DVN: My cause is that of free markets and individual liberties . It is not doing so well due to cheap populists like Trump and bureacratic nightmares like Hillary doing their best to squash them. But all said and done, they are still more popular than yours.
          Even if they arent , values worth defending isnt a cheap popularity contest.
          Anyway the very notion that neo Nazis believe they are popular is laughable.

          Kakaman:How’s that different from any other election? You think everyone who voted for Bush liked him? Half of Republicans supported Trump.

          DVN: Goddamnit you are stupid. I mean this is just hopeless. Listen genius, if you vote for someone in the primary, yes you like him. Jeb Bush obviously wasnt liked by enough people. And Trump never got a plurality of the vote , , he got about 45% and even that after the last viable candidate Cruz suspended his campaign.He won due to his cheap populism which the the Founders warned against and the fact that you had another deluded idiot John Kasich running interfernce for Trump preventing the other viable candidates from acquiring delegates needed to secure the nomination.
          How is it different from any other nomination? ROTFl I dont recollect John Mc Cain or Mitt Romney neither of whom didnt exactly set the base Repuplicans hearts on fire, accusing say Rudy Giuliani or Rick Santorum’s fathers of being involved in the JFK assasination . Neither did either approve of some other dude calling their daughter a great piece of ass. In your hero Trumps case , it was Howard Stern, oh im sorry (((Howard Stern))) who said that and Trumps response was basically I am Trump and I approve this message 😉

          DVN:“You are simply deluded if you think if a thin skinned narcissit and scam artist like Trump will actually help your cause. ”

          Kakaman:It’s not theoretical: he already has helped us. We’ve gotten more attention for our views in a few weeks than you’ll get in your entire life

          DVN: ROTFL. He has simply kicked over the rocks and you came squirming out for the world to see. And LOL on the attention! You are comparing an ideology which is either 100s of years old(white supremacy) or 1000s of years old(anti semitism) with an individual who has no pretensions to greatness. It is this type of incredible stupidity typical of the most rabid Trump supporters and white nationalists that ensures me that nothing comes out of your silly movement.
          And no comparisions to the actual Nazis are not apt. The Nazis ,despite their evil actions and ideology, were an awesome and disciplined fighting force with centuries worth of German ingenuity at their disposal. And they were still defeated. The very notion that you or your type as seen by your absolute lack of reading comprehension,logic ,common sense, knowledge of history and politics can be successful where they failed is comical.

  20. @Ergeniz

    I am still undecided on who is more loathsome or who will be more damaging to the country. Both of their negatives are incredibly high and actually quite similar!

    Both are actually risk averse but possess a low cunning for becoming rich(Trumps strategy rich was mainly by moving money around while Hillar’s talent for back scratching and graft are there for all to see)

    Neither are temperamentally suitable for the office which has the ability to destroy the world. Hilary is a very feeble sick woman,most likely an alcoholic with a possible brain aneurysm and a paranoid mindset who imagines enemies in every nook and corner. Trump is actually is in pretty good shape for a guy his age who doesnt drink, smoke and probably did a bit of coke in the 80s but I can believe that he didnt partake. However his narcissism,ego and thin skinned petulance will only be magnified by a terrifyingly large factor when he becomes president.

    Havent talked about the emails, Benghazi, eminent domain, 2nd amendment, heck first amendment attacks etc etc.

    I considered Gary Johnson. But it turns out his so called fiscal discipline was a lie. The balancing of NM budget was done with mostly creative accounting.

    As for Evan McMullin, his running mate Mindy Finn considers herself a feminist.

    ugh..

    • Yes, its bad all around. My previous assertion was essentially that if Hilary gets in, things will speed in oblivion faster. But now, I’m not so sure.

      Regarding Hilary, she essentially married into power. No secret that Bill is/was her meal ticket into politics and power and why she stayed with him.

      About Trump, my understanding is that he was basically born into money and he has had to file for bankruptcy more than once. He has also had a list of wives, several of which he had to make large settlements to (one which more less caused one of his bankruptcy). He also declined to release his tax returns. He is obviously hiding something and I personally suspect they would show his assets are less than impressive.

      There’s also evidence he offered John Kasich the position of president. I’m inclined to believe this too, because my personal theory is that Trump never really intended to be president but this was some marketing or popularity move of his; he never expected to get this far. There’s also the possibility he is in Hilary’s back pocket.

      So yeah, I didn’t vote for any of them.

      My biggest issue is with the people around me. Trump has obviously got a certain level of charisma, combined with various people wanting to flick off the establishment. However, its blinded them to his obvious faults and failings and even those that recognize them justify it with, ‘He’s better than Hilary’ at least. No, he is not. In all honesty Hilary’s level of corruption is really nothing new or excessive compared to countless other politicians and presidents. The only difference is she getting a platform where her behavior can become more problematic.

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