67 comments on “Alex Jones Proved Conspiracy Theory Is BS And A Scam

  1. I know that I’ve alluded to this before, but now I’m going to have to say this explicitly…

    men interested in “male sovereignty” will have to move out of so-called MGTOW spaces. Unfortunately they are still rambling on about blue pill/red pill and unfortunately too many Youtube MGTOW are parroting alt-reich talking points…

    They don’t see that being connected to the manuresphere is bad. That’s unfortunate, even a smart guy like Barbarrossaa considers himself part of the manuresphere. And sillier still when we all saw how horribly he was treated by Captain Capitalism who is undoubtedly a member of the manuresphere.

    The info is there, it’s out in the open. There’s no need for intellectual dishonesty ala David Futrelle. You can read what these guys are actually saying.

    This is looking just like a few years ago with the AVfM debacle and Paul Elam would not be politely reasoned with when he was told how bad Inmalafide had become. The information is out there and if so-called MGTOW want to go down the manuresphere path of scams and total disrespect to low status men, then any support needs to be abandoned.

        • I forgot to add, A PUA who banned me for challenge his PUA nonsense, he was waffling on about self improvement, and no fap. (No fap is dangerous, as it makes men extra horny, and makes them do stupid things. no fap is promoted by PUA’s and Fundamentalist Christians, who want men so horny, that they are a desperate to get married.) Bar Bar blew me off when I told him I was banned. Bar bar was the one who invented me to his group, so he is my host, and manners dictate that he should of looked into my banning.The fact PUA’s have flooded his private group, should trouble him.

          Bar bar Crashed the Hangout I was in with CS MGTOW and Alexander MGTOW, to waffle on about having sex with two women at once, it seems Bar bar’s slight e fame has gone to his head.

          It is a shame as he is a talented guy, and from my long conversation with him, I thought he got it. Bar bar reached out to talk to me, but he was so arrogant he thought he could blow me off and treat me like I am second rate.

          Men normally only take interest in their issues when they can no longer play the mating game any more. Men can be mass murdered, have their dicks mutilated when they are babies, have due process taken away from them, turned into second class citizens, but men will only start to complain when they can’t play the old mating game of bribing women for relationships.

        • I really lost all respect for the guy. He gets triggered at being called “libertarian tough guy.” He technically may not be a libertarian and he might not be a tough guy but when you see how he condescendingly talks to other men, well…

          sheddingoftheego has gone to complete crap and I don’t even watch MGTOW Youtube videos anymore. If I go to Youtube I want humor or music. (Or something I can insult the alt-right with.)

  2. The most far-fetched accusation of sexual misconduct by a male will bring from out of the woodwork howling mobs making death threats. Yet feminists continue to insist we live in a “rape culture” where rape is condoned.

  3. By my best estimate, the online MGTOW movement may change, but the MGTOW phenomenon isn’t going anywhere.

    As I see it, the online MGTOW phenomenon is decentralized with a few rules, much like open-source programming. One of the rules of open-source programming is that the software has to work. One of the core rules of MGTOW is that of no women.

    Women are unable to penetrate the MGTOW discussion space because women can not or will not be able to imitate masculine-style language patterns and topics. It’s easy to suss women out and keep them out.

    This filter to keep women out allows men to have a discussion space that is free of women and manginas, but if it were to also filter out ideologies among the men it would have be organized with a more centralized hierarchy that will be easier for women to infiltrate or defeat.

    Unless there is a new solution, you can keep women out and let some of the ideology in and root it out and spit it back out or you can have a centralized hierarchy to keep out the ideology at the risk of having the centralized structure be vulnerable to attack by women and manginas.

    • “As I see it, the online MGTOW phenomenon is decentralized with a few rules, much like open-source programming. One of the rules of open-source programming is that the software has to work. One of the core rules of MGTOW is that of no women.”

      1.) the problem is guys aren’t letting go of red pill/blue pill-oversimplified back and white thinking.

      2.) the problem is that guys aren’t disconnecting from the manuresphere. (Barbarossaa considers himself part of the manuresphere for example.)

      3.) MGTOW “personalities” seem to be gaining more traction than MGTOW ideas. My observation is this is much like PUA, a very limited amount of topics to talk about so now they bring in politics/eve psychology to “sound bigger” than they are and court a wider audience/get more views. We have seen this with PUA blogger merging into dark enlightenment/neo-masculinity. I beleive we are seeing so-called MGTOW bringing in ideas that should have nothing to do with Going Your Own Way to get more pageviews.

      I believe that for MGTOW ideas to be separated from garbage, there will have to be a “house cleaning” and a movement away from the big Youtube personalities.

      • All of your points are valid in that they are based on evidence of what is actually happening.

        My point is that there is no house to clean.

        The overwhelming and crushing dominance of the coalition of women, feminists and manginas makes a MGTOW space necessary despite it’s flaws. And one such flaw is that it is a decentralized space that isn’t a “house” that can be cleaned or kept clean.

        If men are going to disconnect, they may be able to do it on their own or by lurking on a website such as this blog and never mention a word themselves online or to anyone but until that happens MGTOW will keep going as men attempt to unplug. Some of the men will be clumsy about it. Some will be deluded for a while until they see the light. Some other men will come in to prey on a growing group. If there is a MGTOW 2.0 then it too will be infiltrated by ideologies until we get a MGTOW 3.0 or something. But it will be a long time before there is a centralized place to keep clean of ideologies.

        The biggest problem is that men are going to try to get away from the women, feminists and manginas – they are the most pressing problem.

        • “The biggest problem is that men are going to try to get away from the women, feminists and manginas – they are the most pressing problem.”

          I believe so long as they allow idiots like the alt-reich and manuresphere into their space, it is not a pro male space. Y’know the old saying out of the frying pan and into the fire. As a halbreed, I knew tradcon M(h)RA’s were a joke when they promoted Jack Donovan. My point is the next generation of men will be alienated by the mistakes that so-called MGTOW are making today. What is a young guy gonna think when a so-called MGTOW rails on about HBD and immigration??? This will actually take him further from the information that could benefit him and make him think he is dealing with a bunch of unhinged lunatics who actually are as bad as the feminists say they are.

          Also, tangentally related…

          When so-called MGTOW use a space like Youtube, well, they are becoming centralized as they are now bound by the TOS of Youtube. Not a fan of Milo Y, he was disingenuous when he said his twitter ban is about “free speech.” It is possible that so-called right wing personalities are discriminated more against than so-clled left wingers. But it wasn’t free speech that was his problem, it was using someone else’s platform. My blog and this blog are on wordpress so that is still not the perfect answer but in my view things were better when several bloggers were using different platforms.

          As it stands now, a man must wade through piles of radioactive shit to maybe find one or two gold nuggets.

        • And yet men still keep coming because women and their manginas are even more radioactive in real life. In due time this will evolve.

        • Get away from feminists and manginas so they can have a space full of anti male trad cons who do not give a shit about men?

          Trad cons are the main enablers of feminism, the right is the main driver of anti male politics, and the left is just a scapegoat used by them to excuse their own awful behavior when it comes to pandering to women.

        • I agree there are too many trad cons infiltrating MGTOW yet it is an evolving situation and has been since the MGTOW meme first appeared. There’s little to nothing these trad cons are offering men who are 15-20 and are new to MGTOW. In 10 years these men will have 10 years experience as MGTOWs and will be between 25-30 and probably completely create something new. They will take over and it is possible they will have completely rejected trad-con-isms.

        • Because the trad-cons are such a big infiltration, they are crowding out the voices of reason.

        • Another issue is the significant amount of [insert race here] nationalists that claim to be MGTOW. There is significant overlap between them and the tradcons as well.

          Until men can get over their tribalism, progress will be even slower.

    • Women are unable to penetrate the MGTOW discussion space because women can not or will not be able to imitate masculine-style language patterns and topics. It’s easy to suss women out and keep them out.

      Wimminz have a completely different communicative teleology. Men talk to trade ideas, and women talk to jockey for social position within their own ingroup. Simon Sheppard in All About Women breaks this down.

      This is probably one of the greatest weaknesses of women, and is one of the main reasons they hate the internet: their communicative ethic requires visible tokens. It’s somewhat impossible to talk shit about some other wimminz, without visual evidence of the speaker’s beauty/wealth/male investment to locate the speech subtextually.

      More generally, I’ve always found conspiracy theorists (Alex Jones, et. al.) to be indulging in a distinctly feminine discourse. It’s true, he’s a showman, and I suppose his listeners must find him marginally entertaining, but he is constantly short on facts, long on emotion, and devotes huge portions of his act to talking shit about celebrities, etc.. I’ve tried to watch his youtube videos before, and find them almost incomprehensible. Rather than constructing a critical theory of his opponents, he creates nonsense that they’re part of Satanic sex cults and other such stuff. The people he goes after are generally people with bad ideas, who seem like easy targets, but he can’t even be bothered to do the minor work involved in deconstruction. It’s all just so much blather.

      • “More generally, I’ve always found conspiracy theorists (Alex Jones, et. al.) to be indulging in a distinctly feminine discourse. It’s true, he’s a showman, and I suppose his listeners must find him marginally entertaining, but he is constantly short on facts, long on emotion, and devotes huge portions of his act to talking shit about celebrities, et”

        Good point. I will just add that to me conspiracy theory is gossip with an intellectual veneer. What is really feminine about conspiracy theory is that it cultivates a passive mindset .

  4. With “ideology” it’s a bit like with people believing that only other people’s farts stinks.

    If you’re a libertarian Capitalist cultural Christian who is opposed to gay rights but also opposed to racism, “racism” and tougher immigration laws, then that’s just normal, “””natural””” and absolutely not “ideological”, but if you’re views differ from that rather narrow field of policies, you suddenly bring in “ideologies.”

    What’s left of MGTOW is sometimes so utterly OBSESSED with women, that they at times feel more like the other side of the same gynocentric coin. I mean, there are people who only seem to think about women all the fucking time. It’s women, women, women, they think more about women than David Duke thinks about Jews. So I rather think it wouldn’t hurt if these guys think and write about something else for a change other than women, women, women. They are still like planets orbiting the female sun. (The greatest irony then is that some of them actually turn MGTOW into a kind of “acting aloof” strategy to attract females, top kek.)

    So, yeah. I don’t know.

    • y’know if you posted what you just said here on sheddingoftheego, Barbarabroski and all his minions would most likely call you a “concern troll” and a “mangina that needs to take the red pill.”

  5. This isn’t the first time Alex Jones has latched onto something that led right down the tubes. He does the chicken little thing a bit too much, but then, he’s in the business of conspiracy. Keeping people riled up and on the edge of insanity is how they stay relevant; on the other hand, many of them really do believe their own doom and gloom – Alex Jones included – and a lot of their doom and gloom is real. The problem they have is the same problem that the mainstream media used to have, which is where they will jump on something in order to be the first to break it, and it turns out to be bad information – they trade credibility for relevance. They really need to slow down on stuff that isn’t absolutely time-sensitive.

    That said, I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Alex. He first came on my radar nearly 20 years ago, back when he was *nobody*. In those days, there didn’t seem to be a prayer in hell that sheeple would ever wake up to some of the shit going on in this world behind the scenes, or that someone like Alex Jones would become a household name, let alone someone getting elected to the presidency who has Alex Jones in his hear. Alex has been going out on a limb for years, taking quite a few personal risks, and overall, I’d say he’s done a lot more good than harm.

    There are a couple of rules of thumb when it comes to conspiracy theory and theorists:
    1). Some have good intel, some don’t, some steal from others, some are just trying to sell book, some are small-timers, some are band wagoners, and some just don’t have a clue…but any of them who make predictions, especially with timelines, are always wrong. If they go back and say, “I was right about this and this and this…” then you can bet your life that they are the kind who throws a whole bunch of shit against the wall and then goes back to what sticks.
    2). Checking all of the sources coming from these guys is next to impossible, either because they move too fast or because the intel has been sealed up, and it doesn’t mean that the intel is wrong; however, the question you always have to ask yourself when getting info from one of those guys, from the alphabet soup media or wherever is this: *if what you are being told is wrong…would you know it?* That question, for many, is a frustrating one because it most often sows uncertainty about everything…but uncertainty is an ugly fact of life, and it’s better to learn how to cope with it, rather than going down a primrose path in any direction.

    • “That said, I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Alex. He first came on my radar nearly 20 years ago, back when he was *nobody*. In those days, there didn’t seem to be a prayer in hell that sheeple would ever wake up to some of the shit going on in this world behind the scenes, or that someone like Alex Jones would become a household name, let alone someone getting elected to the presidency who has Alex Jones in his hear. Alex has been going out on a limb for years, taking quite a few personal risks, and overall, I’d say he’s done a lot more good than harm.”

      Can you elaborate on how he has done more good than harm? Seems like he has contaminated a good section of the political right. The argument that he is often right is not acceptable in this regard. Even tabloids are right every now and then. I actually do prefer trashy apolitical tabloids who leaked the stories about John edwards et al rather than Alex Jones .

      “2). Checking all of the sources coming from these guys is next to impossible, either because they move too fast or because the intel has been sealed up, and it doesn’t mean that the intel is wrong; however, the question you always have to ask yourself when getting info from one of those guys, from the alphabet soup media or wherever is this: *if what you are being told is wrong…would you know it?* That question, for many, is a frustrating one because it most often sows uncertainty about everything…but uncertainty is an ugly fact of life, and it’s better to learn how to cope with it, rather than going down a primrose path in any direction.”

      Im sorry but these are just weasel arguments. Extraordinary claims require extra ordinary evidence. You cant expect people to take these claims at face value by stating that “they move too fast” or “intel is sealed up”(how did he see it in the first place?)

      “*if what you are being told is wrong…would you know it?*”

      I mean I can ask the same question about Alex Jones and company cant I. I dont trust the mainstream media as they are a bunch of paid shills who arent neccesarily ideological driven but are simply aping their colleagues and superiors biases to get ahead and in the end it sticks. I dont think they give much serious thought to any particular topic.
      And they are increasingly dropping any pretense of objectivity . You can see emotionally charged words and skewing of the story a mile away. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to read between the lines to gain a better perspective of what actually transpires in government and society at large.

      You are asking me to trust Alex Jones over the mainstream media which is an utterly ridiculous thing. As far as Im concerned the only reason Im glad Alex Jones was right and is gloating about Trump winning is to watch the media rub their nose in their own caca.

      As to who I prefer I refear again to Kissingers quote about the Iran Iraq war….

  6. Im just surprised it took so long for someone to sue him. He had been making baseless claims as well as ad hominem attacks for ages.

    As an aside when I saw the Cenk Uygur and Alex Jones getting into at the RNC last year , I was reminded of Kissingers quote about the Iran Iraq war….

    • There’s a couple of reasons why Alex Jones hasn’t gotten sued. Libel laws effectively operate a bit differently for famous people. For example, Jerry Falwell tried suing Hustler magazine and lost the suit since he was a public figure so “no one would believe what Hustler was saying about him”. Of course, I’m surprised no one has tried suing him in a British court since their libel laws are different.

      The other problem is the Striesand effect. Do a famous person really want to call attention to what Alex Jones is saying about them? Or give Alex Jones another platform? Most likely not.

      Thus it would take someone like the owner of the PizzaGate place to sue Alex Jones. The owner isn’t a famous person (or wasn’t when PizzaGate started) and can show real damages making issues like the Striesand effect irrelevant.

  7. Thus it would take someone like the owner of the PizzaGate place to sue Alex Jones. The owner isn’t a famous person (or wasn’t when PizzaGate started) and can show real damages making issues like the Striesand effect irrelevant.

    Honestly, why would Alefantis bother? A libel suit would probably succeed, but it’d take years of his life. When even the most looney Alex Jones fan had forgotten what PizzaGate was supposed to be, Alefantis would still be paying his attorney to file motions and pleadings, and would be forced to constantly relive this nonsense long after it had played itself out. After it comes to its successful conclusion, Jones would likely move himself and all his gold to some overseas location, and let his victim try to collect.

    The absolute gullibility of his fans suggests no easy solution. Trash like Alex Jones may just be a sort of necessary evil in a free society.

  8. “Can you elaborate on how he has done more good than harm? Seems like he has contaminated a good section of the political right.”

    Well that depends on what you think contamination is. If you are a globalist neocon like Bill Krystol et al, then maybe he has contaminated the right; by the same token, Jeb Bush would have purified the right – it all depends on perspective, does it not? I’d say that he has had a very positive impact on public awareness of the smoke and mirrors that they once trusted as credible mainstream media sources, official government stories, etc. The less trust the public has in centralized power, the better.

    “The argument that he is often right is not acceptable in this regard. Even tabloids are right every now and then.”

    There is never going to be a consensus on how much stuff from Infowars is/was correct, so if your test for acceptable is that everyone everywhere doesn’t dispute it, then you are going to be disappointed in everything.

    “Im sorry but these are just weasel arguments. Extraordinary claims require extra ordinary evidence. You cant expect people to take these claims at face value by stating that “they move too fast” or “intel is sealed up”(how did he see it in the first place?)”

    Well first of all, it’s not an argument, it’s my advice based on decades of experience with conspriacy theory – take it or leave it, I don’t care. When it comes to evidence (“extraordinary” is subjective) and how you can check people’s sources, I’ll say this: if you have enough time in the day to fact check everything that comes from everyone, by all means…but just because a source can’t be verified doesn’t mean that it’s not true. Now, maybe it’s not true, but maybe it is – you just can’t be sure. For example, a big glut of conspiracy stuff I’ve seen actually came out of a museum in London, but after being exposed, it has since been purged from that museum. You can’t verify it now, but that doesn’t mean that it’s suddenly and magically untrue. The only thing that changes is that it will be more easily dismissed by the same skeptics who casually dismiss most far-fetched things anyway, so in the end, it doesn’t really matter.

    “I mean I can ask the same question about Alex Jones and company cant I.”

    Of course you can, and you should…but I don’t know what you want me to tell you. I’m just weighing in on this topic, coming from the years of watching Infowars develop – I’m not making a sales pitch.

    “You are asking me to trust Alex Jones over the mainstream media”

    Nope. I’m just saying what I think. Believe whatever you like.

    “As to who I prefer I refear again to Kissingers quote about the Iran Iraq war….”

    I don’t know which quote you’re referring to, but it doesn’t matter anyway.

      • Noooo…and I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I don’t care what people believe or listen to. I’m just pointing out the problem with negative evidence: abscence of proof isn’t proof of abscense; likewise, it doesn’t affirm anything either. If I had one point to make, it’s that when it comes to conjecture about conspiracies and such things, don’t expect that you’ll “know” the truth, either way.

        There sure is a lot of tribalism on your blog, by the way..

    • “Well that depends on what you think contamination is. If you are a globalist neocon like Bill Krystol et al, then maybe he has contaminated the right; by the same token, Jeb Bush would have purified the right – it all depends on perspective, does it not? I’d say that he has had a very positive impact on public awareness of the smoke and mirrors that they once trusted as credible mainstream media sources, official government stories, etc. The less trust the public has in centralized power, the better.”

      I didnt respond because I was satisfied with OVR’s acerbic response to your fantastic claims but I overlooked the first sentence somehow and have to address it. As is typical with conspiracy theorists you are quite fond of strawmen when you find no other counter arguments. Apparently if I dont care for Alex Jones I am a globalist neocon ala that deranged Bill Krystol. And the American political Right is according to you a rorshach test rather than a concrete ideology.

      You keep saying he has a positive impact . I say he has taken some good positions such as excessive government interference and harassment of the ordinary citizens and sullied these good ideas with his nuttiness. The most prominent mainstream appearance of Jones was making the case for the 2nd Amendment following the Sandy Hook massacre around Christmas 2012 on Piers Morgan. Do you really think he did a good job ranting and raving and making pro gun people look like damn fools by association. I hate to burst your bubble but “neocon” Ben Shapiro went on the same show shortly after and handed Piers Morgans ass to him.

      “There is never going to be a consensus on how much stuff from Infowars is/was correct, so if your test for acceptable is that everyone everywhere doesn’t dispute it, then you are going to be disappointed in everything.”

      The intellectual dishonesty is strong in this one. It is not my position at all that everything will be correct and never have I demanded this of any news organization as that would be impossible. But when you are exposed for talking rubbish such as the Dark Knight Rises anticipated Sandy Hook or a Family Guy episode predicted the Boston bombings and hence implying some government media collusion to commit these atrocities, any rational ,decent human being will think an apology and retraction is in order. If these adjectives doesnt apply to your personality then its not my problem.

      BTW I am still waiting further details about these so called “evidence” which was removed from this London Museum. You will forgive me if I dont take your word for it. What museum was it ,what was removed and when. This should be relatively easy to figure out.

      As for the rest of your post , it is filled with the usual weasel arguments (“extraordinary is subjective”) and says nothing in particular.

      Regarding the quote of Henry Kissinger about the Iran Iraq war- he said its a pity they cant both lose.Im not at all surprised by your ignorance , neither by your lack of curiosity when it comes to “boring” things like a rigorous study of history, finance, geopolitics, culture and religion.

      Most conspiracy theorists are thoroughly lacking in general knowledge ,much less any expertise in any of these challenging fields . Yes Graham Hancock has discovered some neat stuff due to his belief in “unconventional history” but he hasnt proven that the Sphinx is 10000 years old and was built by the Atlantean people as a library.

      Alex Jones understanding of history is frankly pathetic. Michael Moynihan took him down in a rather cruel manner( Jones didnt even know how to pronounce Vichy LOL) but for Moynihan it was like shooting fish in a barrell. I doubt you will look up this skewering of your hero since Moynihan is a “neocon” in your estimation.

      BTW who do you think did 9/11.

      • LOL Okay, I get it…you are at a point where you think that casual opinions from nameless conspiracy non-theorists on the internet are really worth debating, so I’ll go ahead and give you the doggie treat you worked so hard for…

        You got me. I’m a shill of Alex Jones. Using weasel arguments, straw men, ingorance and all the rest, we have conspired to destroy the political right so that we can sell iodine pills. Congratulations, Dr. Van Nostrand, you have won the “info war” and saved the internet, and you did it all on Omega Virgin Revolt.

        By the way, if you ever get to a point where you are ready to cut your nuts off, I just happen to have a blog post that might be helpful:
        https://boydoesntmeetgirl.wordpress.com/2015/12/21/thoughts-on-elective-castration/

        It was nice talking to you.

        • Completely flippant nonsense utterly lacking in substance. Gee why am I not surprised? You have addressed exactly ZERO of my queries regarding Alex Jones, his kooky views on Sandy Hook and Boston Bombings as well as your own view of 9/11 and now you beat a hasty retreat.

          I dont need to win anything with conspiracy theorists because as you have shown arguing with them is no of consequence. They will just leap from one lame point to another when it gets too hot for them.

          Unlike you I am not a conspiracy theorist and hence dont suffer from delusions of grandeur . I dont think I intend or am capable of “saving ” anything but I do my best to analyze things in a rational,objective manner. Something you are utterly incapable of apparently.

          As for cutting off my nuts thanks but no thanks. I am not an incel. But even if I was -doing that is incredibly stupid

    • I think one of the problems is that the terms “globalization” and more pejoratively “globalism” have been successfully rammed into people’s heads. Of course, “globalization” and “globalism” are only euphemisms for the (soon to be) world-wide dominion of a very small clique. But alas, people believe now that the globalists’ globalization is to blame for a decreasing standard of living, etc.

      The term also implies that we’re witnessing an almost geological process here, that is inevitable and natural like the sun shining upon the evil and on the good. And – of course – it implies that the opposite of this process is tribalism or nationalism.

      The idea of a RATIONAL globalization in the interest of the majority and NOT in the interest of a tiny ruling class (that either goes to misery, outsourcing jobs to China, or imports misery in the form of desperate immigrants who are willing to work for 1$ an hour) can’t even come up that way.

      • A choice comment from the response section of that article: http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/10/men-going-their-own-way/#comment-1369053

        This is the manner in which they think. They are firmly in the collectivist and traditionalist mindset. What is frustrating is they clearly elucidate and describe how men are screwed over in society, even citing anecdotal situations for good measure. Yet it is then subsequently ignored, and they proceed to go right back into making the point of ‘we need more babies being made’.

        No solutions, attempts, suggestions to solve the actual problem (women) and certainly no inkling of admitting women have any sort of culpability in all this. The shaming language is tiresome and predictable. These people don’t give a shit about men, and just yet another of the legions that worship the white goddess. They redefine ‘useful idiot’.

      • I believe we always had a “globalism” of sorts when you speak of a small clique. Niall Fergusson pointed out that about a decade before WWI all the royal families of Europe were all related to each other- the Kaiser of Germany was Queen Victoria’s grandson for example. The French Bourbons were found in Naples, Sicily, Austria and Russia. Hapsburgs in Spain- you get the idea. Yet despite all of these interfamilal connections, the continent tore itself apart destroying globalization for nearly 8 decades.

        While nationalism isnt quite “natural” and “organic” as people historically didnt quite have any national consciousness but tribal, clan and religious identities , nationalism is more natural than globalization . And ccertainly a degree of globalization is neccesary for prosperity , when it goes out of hand.. to quote Jeff Goldblum from Jurassic Park- nature finds a way.

    • Your article is very well focused in its message. The challenge is, you won’t know MGTOW is growing unless fewer men date and marry women and this will spill over into more online activity. But the more online activity, the more often you will have men who will bring in their ideologies (anti-Marxism, in your article’s example) and their poor writing and reasoning skills (the disconnect between the zoning laws and neighbors anger versus the article’s claim that the overt government was involved in the brothel transfer). As MGTOW gets bigger online, there will be a split created by the high number of men in the younger generations 15-20 who will get involved and in 10 years be 25-30.

      • thanks man,

        I think that their “slopiness” or intellectual dishonest will be their undoing. I hope the younger guys don’t read their stuff and figure it out themselves, it’ll be better for them. It’s kind of fun for me to troll and tear stuff apart, I’m actually a bit worried about the younger guys being fed poison. Even 5 years ago, I couldn’t quite tear apart an argument like I can now. All that time spent tearing apart Futrelle, Schwyzer and Marcotte was like lifting weights for my brain. I went from being a 120 lb weakling, to not getting yoked, but still being 120 lbs just way better prepared for a street fight. I even saw an article where they lied about Trump in the mainstream press, I got no desire to defend the guy but the fact that I could see that they were lying and I could write a counter argument if I wanted, well, people 10 IQ points higher (on paper) and far more educated aren’t doing it so I must’ve figured a few things out after all these beers, err years…

    • A dirty Marxist secret no one wants to admit is that every society only has a limited amount of work to assign, and that in some cases there is simply too little work for too many people. The only kind of people who can pull themselves up by their own bootstraps are these little Asian women from that Chinese circus. And billionaires aren’t inventors or Scrooge McDuck types anymore who started out as shoe-shine boys, but simply heirs. (Some of these heirs who could say with Richard Wagner’s fat dragon Fafner, sleeping on his treasures, “Here I lie and here I hold, let me sleep” probably cause LESS damage than “creative” Silicon Valley types like Mark Zuckerberg…)

      So, machines WILL take more and more of the work and you’re a fool if you believe that this will only hit blue collar workers (assurance companies!). The question simply is how we react to this. We can preach “man up, marry, be fruitful and multiply”, mass-immigration with an open border policy (like Gary Johnson wants it) to create EVEN more competition until you have a bunch of impoverished desperate have-nots who kick each other’s teeths out in order to get some shitty minimum wage job.

      It’s strange that the “elites” (how good little slaves call the ruling class) reach so many of their goals and yet the only thing they don’t seem to have success with is their “depopulation agenda” – quite the opposite, we’re at 7.5 billion now – we’re more and more people competing for jobs that are getting rarer because of machinery. (Not even talking about the environmental impact so many people have; not even talking about the environmental impact so many people who do NOT want to live like livestock and only eat grass, not drive a car and never see other parts of the world before they die would have…)

      So, we could do it like the Luddites in the 19th century, these English workers who destroyed the machines that took their jobs before the ruling class back then brutalized these workers (and if we had success and the machines were destroyed, we could die from minor diseases again and work live slaves and peasants in the Dark Ages again, woot!) or we could, as a first step, at least admit that overpopulation is a problem and NEITHER preach “be fruitful and multiply” NOR mass-immigration. Of course corporations can still outsource jobs to impoverished peoples and fuel hatred, threaten war etc. etc. but as long as so many people are competing for so little, I can’t see how, say, poor Chinese workers and poor American workers could ever come together and discuss a global strategy.

      So, I guess if both liberals and the alt-right hate you, you’re on the right track.

      • Im in two minds about the effect of technology on the populace. Either as Spengler makes the case that the Industrial Revolution was an ample time for wars so the unemployable riff raff simply died . Or technology would enable even retards to find work. For example a borderline illiterate these days can operate a cash register while in the past it took an accountant to do so.
        Lower IQ types have an opening in technology via certification programs such as CCNA which doesnt require as high analytical skills as a programer but they can pick up problem solving skills by sheer repetition and experience.

        But yes , having both mass immigration and outsourcing is insanity.

    • Dear Leeduva:

      This doesn’t surprise you, does it?

      While the most gullible fools from among the hoi polloi might take Alex Jones seriously, I’d expect the urbane readers of Black Pill blog to see him for what he is: a showman. These people (all of them, including those ostensibly on the political left) are entertainers. Their job is to provide some bread-and-circuses to the fools who think that voting actually accomplishes something.

      Regards,

      Boxer

    • Only a few years ago did a good deal of the people I used to debate with on the internet adhere to the “stupid leaders” fallacy. They all believed that these leaders were simply stupid, much more stupid than they themselves, and despite their arrogance (>muh STEM degree!) they were first and foremost naive. It was naivety to believe that said leaders only had to read this or that blog, have a look at this or that statistic to change their mind.

      I guess it is because of this that I still have kind of a soft spot in my heart for Alex Jones. Because these infowars-guys … say what you want about them, but at least they recognized that they were ruled by people who had different INTERESTS, who were not simply misinformed but malicious.

      Admittedly, at least this do people (the kind of people in these internet circles here) mostly believe by now. But still..

      As for the law suit, well, if I were his lawyer I would also recommend the “it’s just an act” strategy. If you were his lawyer, not being paid for abstract bullshit about the grand scheme of things but trying to get him to see his kids every once in a while … what else would you recommend him to do otherwise? Trying to convince them that it was all just an act is the only tiny chance he has to not be completely destroyed by the court.

      • “Because these infowars-guys … say what you want about them, but at least they recognized that they were ruled by people who had different INTERESTS, who were not simply misinformed but malicious.”

        This utter ignorance of human psychology must be root of conspiracy theory. Believe it or not most people dont enter government gleefully rubbing their hands intending to commit evil, they are usually motivated by an easy job and perks, a sense of idealism(whether or not you agree with the ideals) or a combination of both.
        They get corrupted because well power does corrupt. And when you are amongst other powerful people who are jaded and immoral due to power also being an aphrodisiac well even saints have their weak moments and most people arent saints.

        A wise man once said -Never attribute to malice what you can to incompetence…or I would add stupidity or naked self interest.

        Conspiracy theorists prefer to ignore the people have flaws which are magnified when they are placed in power.

        Which brings me to

        “As for the law suit, well, if I were his lawyer I would also recommend the “it’s just an act” strategy. If you were his lawyer, not being paid for abstract bullshit about the grand scheme of things but trying to get him to see his kids every once in a while … what else would you recommend him to do otherwise? Trying to convince them that it was all just an act is the only tiny chance he has to not be completely destroyed by the court.”

        Let me see if I understand this, when some Republican politician(say) fails to fulfill his campaign promises due to all sorts of pressures social, economic and political, he is a tool of Zionist, Satanist, Freemason cabal but when Alex Jones freely offers to destroy his own credibility in such a cavalier manners due to his personal issues we should become suddenly understanding and compassionate. I call BS. Alex Jones by this Pizzagate apology and now this “I am a showman” confession and yes it is a confession has exposed himself to be a charlatan. You are indeed a special type of fool who will swallow whatever crap he spews and justify any hypocrisy that would a “globalist” politician to shame.

        • “This utter ignorance of human psychology must be root of conspiracy theory.”

          This is the root of all critical thinking since the first peasant realized that his Graciousness the God Emperor wasn’t simply misinformed about their plight and the way his aristocracy behaved, but simply had other interests; it is the root of all critical thinking since the first Christian slave realized that winning his freedom and winning a theological debate were two very different things.

          Talking about slaves, this is something white people could generally learn from “people of color.” Only very seldomly do the latter believe that the ruling class has their very best interests in mind but, alas, is only misinformed; that they were only “misinformed” when they “accidentally” murdered and slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Syrians, only “accidentally”, because they were “misinformed”, destroyed all these countries and now pay millions of dollars to finance groups who promote an open border policy to bring in cheap labor, to drive down wages and to drive up rents.

          (And of course I know this stupid quote from your “wise” man, just as I know all these stupid quotes from Winston Churchill people always throw around. Every “wise” man also has a belly to fill, and there are people with interests who decide whether they let you become, say, a college professor or not.)

          You obviously can get lost on your path, but you have to follow the rivulets of INTERESTS to discover the spring of truth itself. With this narcissistic bullshit about good people who, alas, only happen to be a bit stupid and misinformed, you cannot even properly criticize feminism.

      • You’re not arguing that the “ruling class” has different interests. Even if you were, there is nothing special about that. Various political ideologies have made that argument since the 1800s, and they made that argument better than you or Alex Jones ever have.

        Also, Alex Jones and the rest of the conspiracy theorists have falsely accused people of RAPING CHILDREN. (See #PizzaGate for a recent example.) That’s despicable and has nothing to do with the “ruling class” having different interests.

        The argument you, Alex Jones, and the rest of the conspiracy theorists are making is that group X (the Jews, Illuminati, alien reptiles, or whatever) have a secret plot to destroy us. And you’re making that argument with zero evidence, especially when it comes to the false accusations of raping children. On top of that you people are running scams like how Alex Jones sells his “super male vitality” pills.

        Conspiracy theory is about scams and false accusations of crimes not groups having different interests.

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  10. @Smultronstället

    Honestly what the fuck are you rambling on about you lunatic? I see you have taken Alex Jones stream of consciousness style “oratory” to heart.

    I will just address a couple of points which are even borderline coherent: I am not a fan of Winston Churchill. I loathe that character.

    Also the burden of proof is on you to prove that leaders are sinister in their intent , (they are of course often in their actions) and like goblins they come into politics joyfully anticipated to do harm.

    As for leaders having different interests than their populace, yes it is human nature to exploit those under you rather than care about their well being. It indeed takes a very strong character simply not to do so. For this no conspiracy of Lizardmen or Satanists is required.

    What is complicated about that? Surely even you can grasp this.

  11. Somewhat OT:

    Here is Ann Coulter in full hysteria mode(hahahaha)

    “Do not imagine that a Trump double-cross on the wall will not destroy the Republican Party. Oh, we’ll get them back. No, you won’t. Trump wasn’t a distraction: He was the last chance to save the GOP.

    Millions of Americans who hadn’t voted in 30 years came out in 2016 to vote for Trump. If he betrays them, they’ll say, “You see? I told you. They’re all crooks.”

    No excuses will work. No fiery denunciations of the courts, the Democrats or La Raza will win them back, even if Trump comes up with demeaning Twitter names for them.

    It would be an epic betrayal — worse than Bush betraying voters on “no new taxes.” Worse than LBJ escalating the Vietnam War. There would be nothing like it in the history of politics.

    He’s the commander in chief! He said he’d build a wall. If he can’t do that, Trump is finished, the Republican Party is finished, and the country is finished. ”

    Another cuckbuster is getting cucked haha.

    Although I dont quite see what she is complaining about. Deportations are way up and border crossings are apparently down 90%. This obsession with a wall is rather silly. Illegal immigration was quite before the 1980s even without a wall. What happened was a public and corporate appetite for cheap labor which compelled the authorities to look the other way. Strangle the demand and the supply will take care of itself. Works for drugs too.

    No doubt our resident scholars like Smut and boydoesntmeetgirl will ascribe this to some Trump being hypotnized by a cabal led by Jared Kushner(who owns a building on 666 Avenue!!!) hahahahaha. When I pointed out during the election season to some crackpot alt righters whether they were worried that this Orthodox Jewish Jared Kushner would be whispering in Trumps ear, came the response “shut up, Trump is too awesome and a native New Yorker to fall for those Jewish tricks”

    I swear to God, Steve Sailer wished to make the same case (in his own cowardly passive aggressive manner) by posting a video where Trump refused to get punked by Ali G(Sasha Baron Cohen)! hahaha , these people are a joke a minute.

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  13. child rape rings aren’t real, just some right-wing nazi nutjob conspiracy job. and all those witnesses dying right before they can give testimony in the Marc Dutroux case? pure coincidence, goyim!

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