51 comments on “Incels Are The Brotherhood From 1984

    • It doesn’t matter what the label is. If incel men called themselves zorps, the problem would be the same. As long as there is a group of men that women despise then some label will be applied to them with the same scapegoating whether they use it one not.

      Also, there have been fights over the incel (and forever alone) labels where women and other non-incels tried to take the label away from them. So they are understandably protective of the label. Since we are using 1984 metaphors, newspeak has been used against incel men in an attempt to make it impossible for them to express their situation similar to how newspeak was used in 1984 to prevent the expression of concepts like political freedom.

      • It doesn’t matter what the label is because men are passive and reactive. They refuse to engage in collectivism to fight for their rights.

        The incel label gives of vibes of weakness, so it draws anti male people to them.

        Most people who pick on incels are sexless, near sexless, or only get sex in shitty exploitative relationships, that is the ironic thing. The incel labels holds a mirror to their face they do not like, so they lash out.

  1. any healthy minded person who is celibate due to not being able to attract someone needs to distances themselves from incels because if you surf their sites, there’s a lot of violent ideology.

      • I didn’t say they were “more violent”. I said “if you surf their sites, there’s a lot of violent ideology.”

        • Sodini, Rodger, Minnasian, at least 3 have committed acts of violence/domestic terrorism. The rest are spewing violent rhetoric online. Just stay away from their sites.

        • It has not been proven Minnasian is an incel, and the evidence is against him being one.

          It has not been proven that being incel was enough for Sodini’s and Rodger’s acts of violence.

          You have not shown that incels are more violent than the average person. Non-incels produce much more “violent rhetoric”. AMC is about to run a new TV show that justifies and glorifies female terrorism. I don’t see you complaing about that or about #killallmen or die cis scum. You are a concern troll and/or a hypocrite.

        • “I don’t see you complaing about that or about #killallmen or die cis scum. You are a concern troll and/or a hypocrite.” Man, you’re so right, remember how Lorena “I cut my husband’s penis” Bobbitt was treated?

        • ” AMC is about to run a new TV show that justifies and glorifies female terrorism. I don’t see you complaing about that or about #killallmen or die cis scum. You are a concern troll and/or a hypocrite.”

          I don’t watch tv so no, I’m not going to complain about what’s on it.

          I’m not aware of #killallmen or die cis scum. I am a peace loving pacifist so am morally opposed to violent rhetoric of any kind. My advice is to stay away from it, no matter who’s spewing it. I hope women don’t start committing mass shootings either.

        • Also. incels are celebrating Minnasian, Sodini and Rodger as heroes and one of their own. You may not think those men are incels, but incels sure as hell do.

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        ideologies (plural noun)
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        the ideas and manner of thinking characteristic of a group, social class, or individual.
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  2. Can we assume all PUAs and other parts of the manosphere are all potential killers, terrorists, and shooters because of George Sodini? George Sodini, about 36 years old, was making about a quarter of a million dollars a year. He was lonley and desperate for women so he paid for PUA classes. After spending time, energy, and money into PUA, finding it wasn’t working, he went and shot up a gym and then shot himself. Oh wait, George Sodini wasn’t a male virgin/incel, nevermind. I believe he didn’t get laid in 20 years or something like that.

    • Sodini was involuntarily celibate and angry at women like a lot of incels say that they are online. They say violent things online and that is why any innocent man with a healthy mind and good heart who happens to be unlucky in love should stay far away from online incel sites that spew hate rhetoric.

      • Funny thing is, only Elliot Rodger and Minnasian are the poster boys used to demonize male virgins/incels. In all the recent YouTube videos I have seen discussing incels, I have seen no mention or comments bringing up Sodini. Just Rodger and Minnasian. Why? I noticed you say Sodini was an involuntarily celibate. Are you saying George Sodini wasn’t a virgin, but he was an involuntarily celibate. I have heard claims that all incels are male virgins, but not all male virgins are incels. Now from your comments, I am hearing not all incels are virgins? Have I got that right?
        As I mentioned before, if George Sodini was an actual virgin, he would have been used as a poster boy to call male virgins potential terrorists. Because he risks making PUA look bad, he is kicked under the car seat by manospheres and feminists.

  3. Yet another attack on men (undesirable men) from society. Not the first and certainly not the last.

  4. SMH…Gynocratic society creates the problem, then gynocrat fanatics call for the extermination of the alleged problem group.

    What a good thing it is that they can’t criminalize virginity, having an “inaesthetic”physical appearance, or an “unpleasant” personality (this last being my problem – I seldom hesitate before speaking my mind). For, If these things were criminalized, the Thought Police would have to arrest most of the world’s population, and the Ministry of Love wouldn’t be able to contain all the criminals.

    “Chad and Becky” are just s**t out of luck, really. They’re hugely outnumbered.

    To criminalize or punish any form of virginity would also mean that the State would have to criminalize classical Western morality, and most of the world’s religions.
    Good luck with that…

  5. Another observation I noticed. As we know, the manosphere and others love to accuse male virgins/incels of not going to the gym, just sitting at home and playing video games, having no job, and doing nothing with their lives as the reason(s) why they can’t get a woman. There is a commenter on YouTube videos called Squarish Link who has shamed and attacked male virgins. He says things like “go to the gym and move forward in life” Notice his YouTube name is named after a video game character. Furthermore, his thumb profile has a picture of Link, the video game character. Another person on YouTube named himself Kirby does something similar.

    I remember recently I commented on one of Rocking Mr. E’s videos asking to please clarify what a MGTOW is. I told them I had confusion about what the manosphere says it is since they appear to be saying that they are gay virgin rapist players. Somebody gave me a knee-jerk reaction of “I am not a virgin, and you’re confusing MGTOW with incels. Hmm. I wonder if he is a virgin in denial. I mentioned how most people (men and women. I was particulararly thinking about Rocking Mr. E) are hypocrites when preaching traditional monogamy. Another person gives me a knee-jerk reaction of calling me a misogynist and calls me yuck. So I just deleted my comments and just had enough.

    • “Another observation I noticed. As we know, the manosphere and others love to accuse male virgins/incels of not going to the gym, just sitting at home and playing video games, having no job, and doing nothing with their lives as the reason(s) why they can’t get a woman”

      If you can only get a woman with a job, that means you are bribing them.

      “Bribe a woman you loser” is what they seem to be saying.

    • Funny how Rocking Mystery Meat promotes “tradcon” ideology between his relentless unnecessary gay-bashing (gee, you don’t think he’s compensating for anything, do ya?) and his fawning adulation of monogamy (which is not that ancient, and yet Rocking MrEtard posted a random archaeological find where the skeleton of an adult female, adult male, and a child happened to be found together so that somehow “proves” that monogamy and the nuclear family is this ancient eternal thing and not a byproduct of agricultural society and urbanism), yet his sham “marriage” falls far below the bar of these tradcon “Übermensch” what with a working wife, who as primary breadwinner earns the family income in the corporate world while Rocking Mr. Cuckboi sits on his emaciated NEET ass and “autistically” rants on YT for Patreon shekels. Big man is a househusband, stay-at-home “dad” and “Mr. Mom” while his beard is the “man of the house.” [Also, his incessant shilling for ethno-nationalism and White Nationalists with his dog-whistles about “white genocide” and Holocaust revisionism when HE is a smelly brown man living in a White country. If he believed in any of the transparent bullshit streaming from his mouth, he would fuck off out of the UK and back to Yemen, or whatever Islamic hellhole his parents slithered in from.]

      > NEET “Mr. Mom” babysitter of his wife’s kids and professional beggar
      > “Be traditional, goyim! Find a good woman and be the MAN OF THE HOUSE. Fuck feminism.”

      > is a greasy Semitic darkie living in Wales (who hilariously lies about being Greek all the time, despite not looking anything like a single Greek person I have ever laid eyes upon)
      > “Globalism is evil! The EU is bad. Ethnic nationalism is good.”

      > extremely effeminate, not only due to his acceptance of a subservient role as stay-at-home husband and babysitter of the daughters of his wife and her Chad(s), but due to his rather effete, very “faggy” British accent and his transvestite mannerisms (like that goofy bob haircut, or his propensity to wear makeup, of which there is photographic and/or video evidence)
      > “Gays and trans are degenerate, goyim! Be a good traditional man, and OBEY TRADITIONAL GENDER ROLES

      > Aggressively pro-Israel / Zionist, Defender of Jews
      > calls Ashkenazim “Khazars” and hence not Semitic, also denounces Christian Zionism (even though that has always pretty much been his entire ideology over his years of vlogging (and begging for Patreon bucks) and the Talmud
      Like, literally, WHAT THE FUCK?!? Is he a self-hating Jew all of a sudden? Or was he an Arab crypto-Muslim doing taqiyya all along? I think he is just some jealous inbred, low-IQ, shit-skinned Mizrahi Jew who resents the Ashkenazim because they are generally smarter, better looking and more successful than he will EVER be.

      And of course…
      > “Yes, work out, lift! If you can’t get female attention, it’s your fault.”
      > As his scrawny, womanly wet noodle arms, lacking any signs of muscle mass or definition indicate, he does not lift. [And only managed to get his wife because of alpha fucks / beta bucks… except he’s a parasitic NEET loser who gets by babysitting his wife’s kids.]

  6. Incels are young men who are angry at women and feminism.

    The fact that there are increasingly large and increasingly YOUNG groups of men voicing their righteous anger at women and feminism is generally a good thing.

    While a lot of this anger is justified (such as the anger about all the female lies and the way you are forced to lie and pretend that female hypergamy, female sexual masochism and female’s complete lack of individualism etc. do not exist), a lot of this is, of course, also misdirected.

    However, most incels seem to be between 16 and 22. While incel circles are great to vent and rant, you gotta keep in mind that most people there are incredibly young.

    And I think a lot of the shortcomings with incel culture simply stem from this fact. Like, if you’re a normal 16-22 or so aged kid living with your parents or in a college dorm or whatever … your potential relationships with women can naturally not be that deep and serious yet.

    You relationships with and your relationship to women becomes serious only when you’re getting a bit older and entering a relationship would imply that you would eventually move in with each other, maybe marry, maybe have children, have to do all kinds of paper work maybe in regards to health care, insurances, paying for the apartment etc.

    If you’re very young and just want to hold hands and fuck, some teenage romance, some sex, netflix and chill … well, in that age it’s easy to believe that all men who are tired of women are just “coping”.

    But once you become older you inevitably and necessarily start to become more concerned about a potential partner’s character, their personality. Realistically speaking, once you’re adult you can either fuck prostitutes or you get into relatively serious and deep relationships with the prospect of moving in with each other, having children, marrying, etc.

    And once you reach this point you look behind the facade. Feminists often accuse us of being only interested in women’s looks. But this is not true. If anything, we become antifeminists because we DO care about women’s personalities and their characters.

    If you reach this age where women have their baby rabies and people are marrying … you are not so focused on sex and teenage romance anymore. You make a pro/con and come to the conclusion that there is more con than there’s pro. And that a relationship with a woman would -by and large- make your situation WORSE not better.

    • That’s because relationships are fundamentally irresponsible. It’s not that women are nasty because then the false ideology kicks in that women were made “worse.” That truth makes relationships irrelevant and immaterial to advocacy for pro-male rights and justice.

    • “Incels are young men who are angry at women and feminism.”

      Seen plenty of incels angry at other men.

      Saw some 16 year old incel call 21 year old men who sleep with legal age 16 year old girls creepy pedophiles and where whinning about the girls not going with boys their own age. (This socks, but this is merely female hypergamy, no point blaming the men for it.)

      “However, most incels seem to be between 16 and 22. While incel circles are great to vent and rant, you gotta keep in mind that most people there are incredibly young.

      And I think a lot of the shortcomings with incel culture simply stem from this fact. Like, if you’re a normal 16-22 or so aged kid living with your parents or in a college dorm or whatever … your potential relationships with women can naturally not be that deep and serious yet.

      I think therapy groups are toxic in general, it reenforces anti social narcissistic behavior. I think therapy should always be limited and for a short time if needed.

      Incels are upset at the wrong thing anyway. They should be upset at human rights violations not a lack of sex

      • Getting down marked in school is not a human rights violation. Affirmative action is not a human rights violation. Even the Draft is not a human rights violation according to the UN bill of human rights, as long as the law theoretically permits alternative service. You don’t know what you are talking about.

        It is true that men are handicapped in society. However, most of those disadvantages are not actual human rights violations.

        I am sure men who get raped by women or male victims of domestic abuse are terribly upset about their position. However, you don’t gain credibility in my eyes by diluting and smudging boundaries between different classes of problems in attempt to attract attention.

        • “Getting down marked in school is not a human rights violation.”

          Yes is it. It white teachers where proven to down mark black students that would be a human rights violation. School is a public service and should be impartial

          “Even the Draft is not a human rights violation according to the UN bill of human rights, as long as the law theoretically permits alternative service. You don’t know what you are talking about.”

          You do not know what the fuck you are talking about troll. You are make an argumentation by appeal to legality. If the UN said it was legal to gas people would that stop it being a human rights violation?

          “I am sure men who get raped by women or male victims of domestic abuse are terribly upset about their position. However, you don’t gain credibility in my eyes by diluting and smudging boundaries between different classes of problems in attempt to attract attention.”

          Concern troll, please tactic fuck off. I do not care about my creditably in your eyes

        • “It white teachers where proven to down mark black students that would be a human rights violation.”

          No, it is a race discrimination. Completely different code of laws.

          “If the UN said it was legal to gas people would that stop it being a human rights violation?”

          Don’t try to straw man me. Fortunately for us all, the UN recognizes gassing people is a human rights violation.

          Human rights are essentially a legal concept. It is an intersubjective idea that lays a framework for state protection of certain unalienable rights bestowed upon all people by the international consensus. If you are kicked from your job you can of course think it is “a human rights violation.” Your lawyer, however, will point out to you that you cannot defend your employment status based on this.

          The concept of human rights ultimately just defines how you can sue people allegedly violating your human rights in a court of law.

          “Concern troll, please tactic fuck off. I do not care about my creditably in your eyes”

          Perhaps I did not clarify this enough. I don’t want to appear “concerned.” I try to be as impartial as I can. My remark about men suffering from domestic abuse was intended to point out real human rights discrimination issue. I don’t care about your brand of human rights. I am not concerned with men’s plight. What I do care about is justice. Thanks to you it is now evident to me that some discrimination against men is fully justified.

          Judging by your comment style I would not need to think of some conspiracy against men in education to explain why your English skills were rated F in school.

        • “Fortunately for us all, the UN recognizes gassing people is a human rights violation”.

          But apparently not stoning, blasphemy laws, beheading, bombing Israel and other crooked UN resolutions.

          The UN doesn’t know the first thing about human rights.

          They proved that beyond a doubt multiple times, most of all when they gave Muslim dictators a seat in their council.

        • Sure, the laws are not perfect.

          But it’s better to have imperfect laws which cover only a subset of injustices than to have none at all.

          Perhaps I should mention the bill of human rights only covering protection of motherhood. This sucks, but the law is the law.

          I think humanity owes its human rights laws to the WW2. In order to set precedent for new human rights laws the world must see an incident of such a scale to be comparable with Nazi tyranny and Soviet occupation of Europe.

          There was a chance for Western nations to strike against Russia after annexation of Crimea by Russian military forces. The West should have put the last nail in the coffin and finally buried Socialist aberration last and for all. That might have provided any necessary political momentum for adjustment of human rights laws.

          I am sorry, but the West had relaxed too early when the Berlin Wall came down. Modern Russia has no intention of demolishing the legacy of Soviet tyrannical regime. Russia now is the biggest threat to the stability and prosperity of Western civilization. Russia is a cancer that must be operated on while it is still not too late.

        • They proved that beyond a doubt multiple times, most of all when they gave Muslim dictators a seat in their council.

          What about Russian dictators? Russia is a #1 threat to the stability and prosperity of Western civilization. Russia can annex sovereign states, provoke political instability in certain regions, commit war crimes. They have played enough with international law and essentially got away with a slap on the wrist. You mentioning Muslim dictators is a false threat narrative. Most of them can’t influence global politics in any case, and those who can have strong connections with NATO and are important business partners, they won’t bite the hand that feeds them.

          At this point Russia did enough to warrant international military campaign against it. 95% of Russians support the annexation of Crimea, they must be treated as allies of the enemy, they are not innocent civilians.

        • I was using the example of Islamic dictators to point out that the UN is as far away from enforcing human rights as possible.

          Anything demanded by Islam majority countries are regarded as respectable. In a sane world, they wouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a human rights council.

          I don’t disagree about Russia, but currently the stealth Jihad is a very legitimate concern for western countries, particularly Europe. Although that’s partly because Europeans are more or less content to allow it happen, for several reasons.

      • Women do not love “chad” he is still treated like shit.

        The incels conflate women letting you fuck them, with caring about you.

        Incels are so obsessed with sex, they miss the mistreatment women dish out to the men they sleep with.

        Hmm it’s not just sex. Women who see you as Chad treat you like God. I actually feel bad for chicks who went way too far in spoiling me. It’s pathological and unhealthy in a way. They didn’t treat me like shit, they treated me like a King.

        Now of course many more women have treated me like shit than like a Chad. It depends on how attractive they find you. But all the girls who were hot for me physically also went way too far in spoiling me.

        • You never had a girl worship you and then dump you?

          You never had a girl tell you she loves you and is then indifferent?

          Why are you trying to pop up this chad nonsense?

  7. Getting spurned and scorned repeatedly may, on the one hand, force the incel to conform to the ‘social norm’ and go to the gym, or to ‘finishing school’ to learn the lacking social graces.
    You can cave in, and become just like Chad. Becky will love you then.
    Horseshit.
    She’s still a cold-hearted whore. You are much, much better off without her.
    Your health will improve if you go to the gym, so do that. Your improved health will do nothing to make Becky into a better human being, though.
    Chad will be forced to stop his overt bullying, but will remain covertly contemptuous of you, even if circumstances lead you to kick the crap out of him. Chad’s an asshole, and nothing will change that, nothing at all.
    F**k those people. Work on improving yourself, if you think you need to. You’re the one in command of your life.

    • Women do not love “chad” he is still treated like shit.

      The incels conflate women letting you fuck them, with caring about you.

      Incels are so obsessed with sex, they miss the mistreatment women dish out to the men they sleep with.

      • Why do you assume collective women’s sins without proof? If you have no proof, what you said is just slander.

      • Hi, Tamerlame.
        You’re absolutely right about gynocrat women not loving “Chad”. To them, he’s a cross between an ATM and a dildo that changes its own batteries.

        Shock revelation of the century! Warning!

        Incels are human beings, too – programmed by biology/evolution/God {take your pick} to reproduce. It’s an imperative, and nothing much but zazen (sitting meditation) vigorous physical exercise followed by cold showers, hormone therapy or the onset of old age (I’m a lot closer to 60 than I am to 20) changes it.

        Incels have human feelings, too. Pain, fear, loneliness, longing, frustration, and anger are the incel’s lot in life. Those are all difficult to bear, and they hurt.

        Rise above it all.

        It’s hard work, you may fail – at first. Pick yourself up, and detach. Don’t become cold, just don’t let the (reasonable and understandable) emotions corrode your soul.

        I think ‘Skeptic’ has issues that have nothing to do with you.

        Carry on!

        • “Incels are human beings, too – programmed by biology/evolution/God {take your pick} to reproduce. It’s an imperative, and nothing much but zazen (sitting meditation) vigorous physical exercise followed by cold showers, hormone therapy or the onset of old age (I’m a lot closer to 60 than I am to 20) changes it.”

          This is dribble.

          This place is full of men obsessed with women.

  8. I don’t disagree, but I’d say the Jews and the rampant conspiracy theories surrounding them is a more apt comparison. The parallel between the brotherhood and the supposed Jewish Zionists NWO is nearly perfect.

    According to ‘traditionalists’, white knights and other vagina-addled minds Jews are responsible for all kinds of things, mainly the destabilization of society, the invasions of migrants into Europe (and subsequently the mass exodus of Jews from said territories due to Muslim violence, all part of the master plan apparently) and the schemers behind feminism and the ‘betrayal’ of said [white] women to their men. Apparently, their plan also includes the blacks and media depicting mixed couples is further proof of the Jew’s machinations to weaken the white race into half-witted mongrels. All the better so they can be easily be controlled by their Jewish overlords. Curiously, they don’t seem to mention the outmarriage to Asian women, so no idea if that is part of the Jewish Plan™ or not, but seeing as nothing escapes the machinations of the Zionists and Israel we can probably assume it is.

    • The elites behind feminism tricked women into sending kids into school, so they could tax them.

      Yet at the same time the elites have a depopulation agenda. I thought they wanted more people to tax?

      Sounds like a very confused plan to me.

      • As I mentioned, the Plan™ is centered around Jews being in control of the world and wanting more power…somehow. Despite all this leverage they supposedly possess they are victimized and attacked on the street by third world migrants in Europe and Israel is still besieged by constant attacks from HAMAS and crooked resolutions from the UN.

        The elites also somehow ‘turned’ women against men, according to the alt right.

        Its makes more sense if you don’t think about it for more than five seconds.

    • Somewhat OT, but you brought up the Jews, so here goes.

      Jump into the time machine – we’re going to ancient Sumeria.

      The Sumerian word for ‘outcast’ is “habiru”.
      “Habiru” has remained in the western world’s languages for longer than any other word I can think of, though it has gone through some changes. It’s still recognizable in English, though, as the word ‘Hebrew’.

      The ancient Hebrews were the people who couldn’t get along with everybody else, so they were cast out of the city – at a time when that amounted to a death sentence.

      If incels aren’t outcasts, Hebrews in the classical sense, I don’t know what it is to be an outcast (the hell I don’t).

      Here endeth the lesson.

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  11. Hmmm. No new article yet. Oh well, time for a little humor, but somewhat serious humor.

    Society (speaking to male virgins/incels): Give up your weapons of mass destruction that you are hiding in your momma’s basement.
    🙂

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