Women who are supposedly anti-feminist really aren’t in any meaningful sense. Take what this “woman against feminism” said.
Who needs feminists when you have female “anti-feminists”?
I found this article about how sex therapy in Silicon Valley is a booming business. What it doesn’t tell you is that these sex therapists are preying on male techies in a way that should be considered malpractice. Let’s look at what these sex therapists have to say.
There’s something else at play here, though: In general, tech workers are more vulnerable to issues around love and intimacy, according to several local sex therapists I’ve interviewed. The reasons for this are wide-ranging, but in Dan’s particular case, it resulted from being tagged as a prodigy at a young age. He excelled in science and was encouraged to pursue it to the exclusion of all else.
“These are the tropes of tech development,” says Elizabeth McGrath, his sex therapist, who shared his story with me. (McGrath did not give me her patient’s name, and asked me to use a pseudonym when writing about him.) “To his mind, and his processing, there was no desire to prioritize anything other than that.”
No, this is not a trope of tech development. Even by the sex therapist’s admission, tech guys are in a path created by external forces, yet she tries to make this the fault of tech guys. What actually happened is that these men were being groomed for The Reserves. However, it worked a little too well. These guys managed to avoid getting ensnared by used up women in a bizarre form of good luck for these guys. As we will see these sex therapists aren’t acting in the best interests of their male tech clients, but instead are trying to reroute them back into The Reserves.
“[These men] often spend their time in environments that are mostly male, like in school and tech offices,” explains another therapist, Celeste Hirschman. “So they don’t have a lot of practice just relating to women, period, let alone learning how to meet, pickup, seduce, touch.”
Of course, this is true, but that’s because women don’t want them until they need a chump with money to pay their bills. How do these sex therapists help men get practice with women?
Hirschman follows a less-traditional therapy method known as Somatica, which is “body-based” and allows for non-genital touch between the counselor and client, the idea being that there are things that can’t be learned through talk alone. For example, she will wrestle with clients just to get them out of their heads and into their bodies.
“Less traditional” likely means crackpot in this case.
“Getting them out of their heads” does not get them experience interacting with women. It certainly does not get these men experience actually having sex with women. And if they’re like the 40 year old male virgin that the article talks about, he is going to need significant sexual experience to have relationships with age appropriate women. Adult women who are virgins are practically nonexistent.
Another reason that a lack of sexual experience is a problem is that these tech guys won’t recognize women who are out to steal their money. The sex therapists say that such women don’t exist.
Hirschman says some of her clients will downplay or hide the money they make out of fear that it’s the primary reason a woman will be interested in them. “I had one client I was just talking to the other day, he said, ‘I don’t know if I want to bring women to my house right away because it’s a big, huge house and suddenly they’re wanting to nest after the second date and they haven’t even gotten to know me yet!’”
McGrath believes that while there may be women out there on the prowl for a Google billionaire, these men’s fears largely come from deep-seated personal insecurity. “Part of that is, ‘A woman couldn’t be interested in me for me,’” she says. “That is a common thread for many men who are in the tech industry. They have never been seen as ‘the boyfriend’ or felt attractive or sexy. They felt dorky or like outsiders.”
This is not personal insecurity. It is what they have observed not only in their own lives but in the lives of many other men. Playing this off as a problem that only affects “Google billionaires” is like saying that bank robbers only try to rob Fort Knox and not small town banks with lax security.
One thing that gets repeated over and over is how these tech guys are “too much in their own heads”. In other words, these sex therapists don’t want them thinking. In fact, these sex therapists attack everything that made the tech guys so successful.
Another common issue that these therapists encounter with tech clients is they treat sex like a line of broken code in need of debugging, or a mathematical equation. “That’s the crux of trying to interact with a human, though: there isn’t a formula,” says McGrath. “Human connection is not formulaic. Does it have statistics, can you look at data, can you research it and quantify it? Sure. But in one-to-one, it is always variable. That’s where those things fail.”
This is an admission that these sex therapists don’t want their male tech clients using their best asset, their brains, making observations, or using the scientific method. (As we know attacking the scientific method is common to purveyors of dating advice.) The tech guys might actually notice the real nature of women and how vile it is, not to mention that they are being scammed by their sex therapists.
However, there is a big problem for the sex therapists when they attack data and the scientific method. If the tech guys are wrong for using those tools, then sex therapy can’t be based on science which uses those tools. It means that what these sex therapists are doing is no better than voodoo. By selling their voodoo as therapy, these sex therapists are quacks and con artists. The reason they are in Silicon Valley is for the same reason that bank robbers rob banks. That’s because banks are where the money is, and in this case it has little to no security protecting it.
AVFM hasn’t gotten as bad as any of you think. It’s actually gotten a whole lot worse than you think.
Since I rarely read AVFM, I had no idea that Obsidian had been writing for it for several months (under his real name Mumia Ali) until it was brought up on SpawnySpace. Not only is Obsidian’s antipathy for MGTOW well known, he was run off both The Spearhead and Just4Guys because the readership of both blogs got tired of his shtick and insults. I have no idea why Paul Elam thought it was a good idea to add Obsidian to AVFM’s roster given his history.
You may think this is just another example of Paul Elam’s anti-MGTOW stance. It’s much worse than that. Obsidian is a male version of Susan Walsh. Let’s not forget that Susan Walsh engaged in a Stalinist purge of most of the men (including manurespherians) that were commenting on Hooking Up Stupid. Obsidian tried to do the same thing with Just Four Guys (under the cover of night without the consent of the other guys that write for J4G). He even used the same excuse of women complaining about male commentors that Susan Walsh did. This didn’t work at J4G, but it looks like it’s working at AVFM.
AVFM is over. It’s slowly becoming not just a clone of the Dickless Mangina Project but also a male version of Hooking Up Stupid. Fortunately, the future of anti-feminism does not depend on AVFM or old men like Paul Elam or Obsidian.
I got asked my opinion about AVFM’s latest attack on MGTOW. Until now, I hadn’t been following it due to a lack of time and an assumption that it was nothing more than the usual tension between MRAs and MGTOW. Obviously, I oppose what AVFM is trying to do. By trying to include married men as MGTOW, AVFM is trying to create a MGTOW- and call that “MGTOW”, so they can actual MGTOW, MGTOW+ to make actual MGTOW look like Atheism+. What AVFM is doing is a very despicable and underhanded thing.
While this is about throwing out actual MGTOW to include tradcons at AVFM, it represents a deeper connection between AVFM and tradcons. AVFM is adopting a tradcon strategy I am now calling, “The Middle Of The Road Alternative Scam”. What tradcons try to do is present themselves as different from both feminists and MRAs/MGTOW. Tradcons will tell you that they are neither pro-male nor pro-female, but pro-“family” or pro-“community”. “Family” and “community” are words that really mean women and/or socialism depending on context, so it’s a way for tradcons try to trick men into supporting women. Plus, it’s also a way for tradcons to present themselves as the group “in the middle” trying to “bring men and women together” and “fight the extremists on both sides” (i.e. the feminists on one side and the MRAs/MGTOW on the other).
AVFM is now using the same scam. Effectively they’re trying to say, “See we have both men and women. We’re trying to bring men and women together. We’re neither those feminist extremists nor those MGTOW extremists.” Since AVFM is supposed to be a MRA organization, they can’t include MRAs as one of the “extremes” they’re supposedly against, so MGTOW exclusively get that “honor”. Thats the only real difference between the tradcon application of “the middle of the road alternative” scam and AVFM’s application of it. Since AVFM’s use of this scam effectively aligns AVFM with tradcon ideology, now tradcons are very much at home at AVFM.
There may be some people reading this who are wondering, “what’s wrong with bringing men and women together?” They think that I’m just an extremist who is trying to promote a war between men and women. The problem with a middle of the road position (in the best case scenario) is that it’s a compromise position. On one side, the position is “men should have no rights”. The other side says, “men should have rights”. The middle of the road position is to take half of men’s rights away. Clearly, that’s unacceptable and absurd. A man’s rights should never be up for compromise or negotiation. It’s like you trying to compromise with someone who wants to poison your food. You don’t want your food to be poisoned, but they do. Are you actually going to meet in the middle and let them use half as much poison? Of course not. Don’t forget this description of the “middle of the road alternative” is assuming the best case scenario. In reality, it’s worse. The “middle of the road alternative” is really used as a scam or a trojan horse to subjugate men.
AVFM and the tradcons aren’t the only to use this scam. The white vagina worshipping nationalists also use this scam, albeit only for white men and white women. Conspiracy theorists also use this scam, but that is part some of larger issues with conspiracy theory that require a separate post. Anytime you see this scam being used, don’t trust whoever is using it. Many groups are using it or will use it in the future so you have to be vigilant for it.
Last Friday was Halloween, and it got me thinking of something I have noticed about the so called manosphere and related groups like the white vagina worshiping nationalists. They all will tell you that they are right wing, but that isn’t true. They are all leftists in disguise.
With the white vagina worshiping nationalists, they believe in Marxist redistribution of wealth just like regular socialists do. The only difference is that the white vagina worshiping nationalists want wealth redistributed to the white proletariat instead of the entire proletariat like socialists do. There is a reason why Nazi is short for national SOCIALISM. Additionally, white vagina worshiping nationalists are pretty much indistinguishable from feminists. Take that Viking Bitch woman who showed up here a while back. If you try reading her blog, it becomes clear that she thinks of “Jews” as men and “whites” as women (even to the point where she accuses Jewish men of being obsessed with their penises). If you removed the word, Jew, from her blog it would become indistinguishable from a feminist blog. Even the name, “blonde gynocide” makes it indistinguishable from a feminist blog. On top of that, she’s a single mother and defends single motherhood just like a feminist would except for using the white race as a defense for her bad choices that wreck society.
The so called manosphere also has plenty of leftism in disguise. The Dickless Mangina Project has an author named RudyDeuceTruth who is indistinguishable from Hawaiian Fat Blob and other conspiracy theorists of the so called manosphere. If I showed you RudyDeuceTruth’s writings without telling you it came from the Dickless Mangina Project, you would think it came from a conspiracy theorist in the so called manosphere. This is because the conspiracy theory in the so called manosphere is completely leftist so it can be re-posted on a feminist blog without changing it one iota. The “bad guys” in conspiracy theory are always rich capitalists (even if a conspiracy theorist believes that they’re taking direction from extraterrestrials or demons). Even when conspiracy theorists are supposedly opposed to socialism, it’s because they believe socialism is a plot by said rich capitalists, not because they’re opposed to big government, Marxist redistribution of wealth, or actual socialist policies.
The so called manosphere also has a contingent of tradcons (traditionalist conservatives). They are also hostile to capitalism and the free market. Most of them will tell you that they’re opposed socialism too, but that’s because they associate socialism with being “godless” not because of actual opposition to socialist policies. Many of the tradcons in the so called manosphere are Catholic and subscribe to “distributism”, an economic theory that grew out of Catholic social teaching. They will use this to show that they are opposed to socialism in addition to capitalism, although distributism requires socialist policies like nationalization of banks. Also, it grew out of Catholic social teaching which means it came from Catholic versions of social justice warriors or a Catholic form of leftism. The Catholic Church is a very leftist organization. The only reason people think otherwise is because of the Catholic Church’s opposition to abortion. However, if you look at how the Catholic Church’s support for Obamacare until the church would have to pay for abortions, for example, it becomes obvious that the Catholic Church is nothing but a bunch of leftists who happen to be anti-abortion.
I had no trouble finding examples of manospherians actually explicitly agreeing with feminist ideas. Obsidian, a major figure in the manosphere, said that white men in the manosphere were filled with privilege. That’s exactly what a feminist would say and think.
What you see in all of these examples is trying to get men to believe in socialism, feminism, and other parts of leftism through the back door. It’s leftism but the people promoting it disguise it with use of anti-semitism and rhetorical tricks. That isn’t to say that these people don’t actually believe they’re right wing. They do, but 99% of their political ideology is leftist with an attempt at putting it in a right wing costume. And it doesn’t even work well since anti-semitism is now more associated with the left than the right now, for example. What we are seeing here is the horseshoe theory of politics in action. The white vagina worshipping nationalists, the so called manosphere, conspiracy theorists, and related groups moved so far to the right that they ended up adopting leftism, including feminism, wholesale.
When we had the last invasion by ManginaBoobz trolls, one thing they went after me for was knowing that women will follow no matter where on this planet I go. The ultimate piece of proof that proves me right is Zoe Quinn’s invasion of WizardChan.
WizardChan is a message board for adult men who are virgins. (The term “wizard” means a man who is virgin and 30 or older.) Zoe Quinn made up a bunch of lies that WizardChan attacked her and led her personal army of manginas to invade WizardChan. (This was one of the events that led to #GamerGate.)
The wizards just wanted to be left alone. Yet, as Zoe Quinn proved, a group of men can’t be left alone. Sooner or later women will not just follow them and harass them but will also slander them and lead manginas into attacking them. If women can’t leave the wizards alone, drastic measures are required to avoid harassment and worse by women and manginas working for them.
A lot of you have already seen this video where Whoopi Goldberg points out that a woman shouldn’t hit a man and expect that a man won’t hit back. The other women in the video are aghast at what Whoopi Goldberg is saying. There’s an acronym for this, DHMIAG, or “don’t hit me I’m a girl”. What’s missing from that acronym is the second part, “but I can hit men because I’m a girl”.
This is an example of how women use hypoagency, the idea that women are never actors but only acted upon, to manipulate men. Hypoagency is also tied to women being “weaker” than men. In the DHMIAG example, there are two things going on. First, if a woman hits a man it’s assumed to be a man’s fault. The woman is only reacting to what the man did so he “deserved” it. Second, the man isn’t supposed to hit back, that is engage in self defense, against women because it was somehow his fault that she hit him. Third, the man isn’t supposed to hit back because the women is basically equivalent a child or a pet.
When described in this fashion, it sounds pretty demeaning to women in theory. Yet, women across the political spectrum from liberal feminists to conservative traditionalists argue in favor of women having hypoagency. Supposedly, this means that women are treated as “inferior”, but in reality that isn’t the case. On the feminist side, this shows up in lobbying the government for special treatment (affirmative action, transfer payments that only go to women etc.) since women are supposedly in a “weaker” position, yet women get all this free stuff. This was what the Hobby Lobby case was all about. Women are supposedly incapable of getting their own birth control so employers have to pay for it. It’s using “weakness” as an attempt to get free stuff.
On the traditionalist side, it’s even more obvious. In traditional Christian churches, for example, it is taught that women are the “weaker vessel” and are “inferior” to men. What ends up happening is that the church says that men are supposed to “lead” but if women sin, then it’s all the fault of a man (typically a husband) for failing to lead. Even though women are supposedly in an “inferior” position in church, women conveniently are exempt from all responsibility and accountability. This is why women are the biggest defenders of traditionalism.
While in the DHMIAG example women have the equivalent status of a child or a pet, it’s important to remember that most people treat children and pets very well. And it’s not like women are treated like children or pets all the time. Women can move back between child/pet and independent adult status as is convenient for them. And that’s how all these examples work regardless of whether it’s on the feminist or the traditionalist side of the political spectrum.
Women know that most men are honorable so that men will instinctively defend those they perceive as weak. So women present themselves as “weak” to manipulate men into giving them whatever woman want. Women use our honorable nature against us in a very insidious and evil manner.
Anytime you hear a woman arguing for their “inferiority” or “weakness” in some area, it’s an attempt to manipulate you. The thing to remember is that women have political power so even though men are on average stronger than women, for example, it doesn’t matter. Political power trumps all, but part of the hypoagency scam is to distract you from that.