What happens to a believer in game when they realize it is a lie? What happens when a pusher of game can’t deal with the knowledge that they are nothing more than a con artist? One possibility is that they will have a massive psychological breakdown. That is what happened to the PUA, Mystery. At first he seemed to vanish (like many gamers do), but he turned up on Facebook where he had his epic meltdown.
Why would Mystery have an epic meltdown? Perhaps he was presented with hard evidence that game is a lie, such as this video of him “practicing game”. Maybe being associated with an internet marketing scam organization got to him. Regardless, it is pretty clear that his involvement with the game community led to Mystery’s epic breakdown.
Tamerlame brought this article from AVFM to our attention where AVFM calls out Roosh (and Matt Forney) for selling piece of shit “supplements” and game that doesn’t work and doesn’t exist. While I liked a good portion of the article, one of the problems with it is that AVFM will be in bed Roosh again next week. They have a yo-yo relationship.
There is a fundamental flaw in the article, namely accusing Roosh (and Forney) of being rapists. If you believe what they have written, they may be rapists. However, that is all predicated on whether Roosh (and Forney) are getting laid or not. By definition rapists get laid. A man who doesn’t get laid can not logically be a rapist. If you know that game is bullshit, if you have talked to men who have had disastrous results from trying game (as Dean Esmay, the author, has), why would you believe that Roosh and Forney are rapists given that their alleged rape exploits are based on game working? On the one hand Dean Esmay says that game doesn’t work. On the other hand, he is accusing Roosh and Forney of being game based rapists which mean that game must work at some level. Why doesn’t AVFM go in for the kill shot on these two and point out that their rape stories are lies so that they can pretend they are getting laid? Why doesn’t AVFM point out that it costs $6500 for Roosh to get laid? Even when AVFM is attacking Roosh, it is still propping up Roosh.
There are two possible reasons I can see that AVFM isn’t going in for the kill. One, they’re going to flip flop on Roosh again. Two, like with the rest of the manuresphere, they won’t give up on game because it would be an admission that the best thing for any man to simply avoid women. AVFM is too filled with tradcons and other assorted old guys to speak the truth about women.
We have been talking about how Paul Elam and Roosh have started a feud. This seems strange since AVFM has been pretty pro-Roosh, especially since AVFM has Obsidian still writing for it. It gets stranger if you dig deeper. I tried reading some of things that AVFM was saying about Roosh and PUAs in general, and it is all over the place. They say that they are against PUA works yet they give Roosh a platform. They complain that feminists are unfairly conflating MRAs and PUAs (which is true), but they give the feminists ammo running a bunch of posts defending PUAs. There’s lots of contradictions like that if you take a look at what AVFM has been saying about PUAs. So what is going on here?
As far as I can tell, what AVFM is doing is part of the MDAD (Misandrist Dating Advice Distraction). AVFM has completely alienated MGTOW by lying about it, and AVFM’s track record in terms of action for men’s rights is abysmal. AVFM is in a bind so out of desperation AVFM is playing some sort of strange game with Roosh by constantly switching between being for and against Roosh to stay relevant by generating PUA content. (Using non-manuresphere PUAs won’t work for AVFM’s purposes so they are stuck with manuresphere PUAs which means Roosh now.) Roosh is an attention whore so he’s happy to oblige.
What AVFM is doing is using dating advice to distract from their failures at advancing mens rights. That makes it part of the MDAD (Misandrist Dating Advice Distraction).
I wrote about back in August how at Dalrock, they were blaming demons for the actions of women. The manuresphere obsession with demons isn’t limited to the Dalrock blog. Return of
Kings Court Jesters also believes in demons. If you read the comments, most of the commenters believe that Ouija boards are the like are real in that they can summon demons.
I don’t know if demons exist or not. What I know is that Return of
Kings Court Jesters and all of the other major personalities don’t want you to see that game doesn’t exist. Thus they flood you will rubbish about demons, conspiracy theory, and other things that have nothing to do with meeting women and getting laid. If you are too busy worrying that demons are hiding under your bed, you won’t notice that game isn’t working for you or anyone else.
I found a comment on one of Cheetos Eating Fatt Fuck Forney’s attempts to neutralize MGTOW.
For those of you who care “Toads” is one of the sock puppets of the manurespherian known as TFH (confirming once again that the manuresphere is also the sockpuppetosphere). Obviously, “fact acceptance movement” is a typo, and he meant to say fat acceptance movement. Yet, it doesn’t make sense to compare MGTOW to the fat acceptance movement whereas MGTOW can be called a “fact acceptance movement”. On the other hand the manuresphere is filled with obese individuals who do have their own form of the fat acceptance movement, which is really about accusing men who aren’t fat of being fat.
Unlike MGTOW, the manuresphere can’t deal with facts. For starters, take this comment from Toads.
Can anyone even name a single MGTOW who has “drifted into white nationalism”? Just look at how many times I have had to deal with white vagina worshiping nationalists invading this blog or other MGTOW blogs. The facts are the complete opposite of what Toads says.
You might have heard of the phrase, “feelz before realz”, that describes of feminists (and women in general) evaluate whether something is correct. They don’t base the beliefs on facts but feelings. The manuresphere does the same thing as you can see in the example above to the point where they literally believe things that are the opposite of reality. The manuresphere has even justified this on the basis of “verisimilitude”. In other words, they actually only believe something if it feels correct to them regardless of the evidence and facts of a situation. The manuresphere is exactly like the feminists. This is why dating advice from both feminists and the manuresphere sound like magic rituals where you draw a pentagram and sacrifice a goat.
This blog and MGTOW in general are completely different. MGTOW exists because many men independently of each other actually looked at the facts when it comes to women. Thus it makes sense to say that this blog and MGTOW overall belong to the “fact acceptance movement” if there was ever such a movement.
Roosh went to the Ukraine where he supposedly got laid using game and wrote a book about it. Roosh was interviewed on a Ukrainian TV show, and they exposed Roosh as a fraud. In some ways it was as bad as Roosh’s appearance on the Dr. Oz show. (Roosh clearly needs to stop appearing on TV for his own good.) While watching this video, make sure closed captioning in on to see subtitles in English.
Starting at 5:00, the host of the TV show brings in two women that Roosh allegedly met and banged while in the Ukraine. Roosh had pictures of them on his website. Neither woman knew who Roosh was. One of the women said that she was going to sue Roosh for using pictures of her without her permission. The TV show actually did find a woman who had met Roosh. This woman was not interested in him, but Roosh spent a whole lot of time chasing her. Roosh denied knowing her.
The TV show also brought out the man that Roosh stayed with while he was in the Ukraine. Roosh lied to this man by telling him that he was doing research on nightclubs for his employer. This man also confirmed that Roosh always struck out with women while he was in the Ukraine.
If you have been wondering why it costs Roosh $6500 each time he gets laid, Roosh’s appearance on this TV show proves why. Roosh is rarely getting laid, and the stories of him getting laid in his books are all or nearly all fiction.
Something you will hear from not only gamers but all pushers of dating advice is that dating is a numbers game. They say that you need to talk to as many women as possible and ask them out. Of course, gamers and everyone else pushing dating advice hardly ever talk to girls. Thus, they don’t know if dating is actually a numbers game. A guy actually tried the numbers game advice. In this video, he describes his results.
That’s right. It didn’t work. He asked out tons of women, and it got him absolutely nowhere. Anytime when someone talks about dating being a numbers game, they are full of shit.
Various things have happened that have convinced me that peak manuresphere has been reached, and that the manuresphere is on its way to imploding. First, Roosh is closing down Reaxxion, his attempt to suck #GamerGate in the manuresphere. Roosh says that it’s because Reaxxion was not getting enough views. While that is likely true, the few times I looked at that site, it always had the same crowd in the comments section that his other sites had. In other words, #GamerGate was not interested in the manuresphere, and Reaxxion only served to cannibalize traffic from Roosh’s other sites since it could not generate new viewers. Reaxxion’s failure is also a failure for Roosh when it comes to reaching out to younger men. Younger men aren’t interested in the manuresphere, as I talked about before.
Second, Mitchel informed us that AVFM has gone all in when it comes to joining hands with Roosh. Before AVFM could blame anything having to do with Roosh on Obsidian, but now they can’t. So why go all in with Roosh? AVFM has the same demographic problem that Roosh and the manuresphere has.
Third, these sorts of problems can be seen elsewhere in the manuresphere. The following comment describes the state of Roissy’s blog.
The comments at Heartiste nowadays deal exclusively with omega males whining that some colored men are sexually involved with white women, and not enough whites are angry about this. 99% of their ideology, at least going by the Heartiste comments, are of a ‘restrict outside competition’ nature by bottom-rung males, ironically on a blog that used to be about Game. Heartiste’s traffic is now only a fraction of what it was 5 years ago, as a result.
The manuresphere has already reached its peak and is in the first stages of imploding. This includes AVFM. AVFM and the manuresphere are trying to stop the bleeding by cannibalizing their assets and de facto mergers (such as with AVFM and Roosh). This will not work as it will drive away readership who were only interested in one or the other and not both. The manuresphere’s collapse will continue.
If there’s anything left of the manuresphere after the collapse, it will be owned by Alex Jones. (Roosh is already a wholly owned subsidiary of Alex Jones.) If we’re lucky the collapse of the manuresphere will take out Alex Jones and other conspiracy theorists.
One thing the manuresphere will tell you to do is lift weights. Unlike the rest of what the manuresphere tells you, lifting weights is a fine hobby. Yet, it’s not the requirement that the manuresphere makes it out to be. Given how much the manuresphere hypes lifting weights, you would expect manurespherians to be serious about lifting weights and exercise in general. However, you would be wrong.
Fatt Fuck Fornedarmu says you’re a loser who masturbates and eats Cheetos all day and doesn’t understand why you and many other people are laughing at him.
All you need to do is look at pictures of manurespherians to see that they don’t lift or even care about excercise. Fatt Fuck Fornedarmu is one such example, but the manuresphere is filled with fat blobs like Fatt Fuck Fornedarmu. (Barbarossa has pointed out that the picture to the left was taken after Fatt Fuck Fornedarmu was supposed to have been on a two year diet and exercise regimen that failed.) They are even too stupid to see their own hypocrisy when they accuse MGTOWs of eating Cheetos and masturbating all day and attacking others for being fat. (Ironically, it’s likely that the targets of the manuresphere’s fat shaming campaigns are less fat than the fat blobs of the manuresphere.)
Given that the manuresphere is incapable of exercising, it’s no surprise they fall for scams like the paleo diet. It promises a quick cure all to being a fat blob. Yet, as we see from the fat blobs of the manuresphere, it does not work. Beyond that we have to wonder how man manurespherians say they’re on the paleo diet, but are too lazy to actually follow that scam diet. Why should you listen to diet advice from guys who either can’t follow through with a scam diet like the paleo diet or conclusively prove that it doesn’t work?
This “do as I say, not as I do” attitude is prevalent throughout the manuresphere. Some of the biggest proponents of game, are guys who have never actually tried game themselves to see if it actually works. They just heard it does from other manurespherians. Why should you listen to dating advice from guys who haven’t even tried it themselves but heard it works from someone else? The manuresphere can’t even follow its own advice when it comes to something everyone knows is healthy like lifting weights. If they can’t do that, then there is no reason to listen to them on bullshit like the paleo diet or game or any other weird shit they believe.
The problem of not following their own dating advice extends beyond the manuresphere and into the dating advice industry in general. Pretty much any dating advice you get is going to be from someone who hasn’t tried it themselves. (This is not surprising as most dating advice is designed to keep you in The Reserves and not actually help you get dates/sex/girlfriends.) There is the alternative of actually running experiments with dating advice and gathering data to see how it works, but such things are kryptonite to the dating advice industry. Since they’re unwilling to perform experiments and gather data, their unwillingness to use their own dating advice proves it’s bullshit.
I have talked about how in many cases dating advice is a scam to sell an ideology. Anyone who is doing that will deny that so I was surprised to find that Roosh basically admitted it.
Game is a collection of tactics/rules/behaviors that work, but it can’t exist in isolation without an ideology that complements it and gives men guidance besides just sex. Hence, neomasculinity, which even touches on the political nature of societies.
If game just works, why can’t it be completely independent of ideology? In fact, if game did just work, it would have to be completely independent of ideology. Otherwise game’s effectiveness would be dependent on belief in a particular ideology.
We can take away from this that game doesn’t exist because if it did there would be no attempt to tie an ideology to it. By saying that game has to be tied to an ideology, Roosh pretty much just admitted that game is a scam.