I have talked about how dating advice is used as a scam to convince people to believe in a particular ideology. While the manuresphere is a good example of this, using dating advice to make men believe in a particular ideology is not limited to them. The Dickless Mangina Project has a page about how going green will makes men attractive and sexy (and by extension get men laid).
If going green will get a man laid, then it should be easy to show examples of ugly and poor men who go green and become attractive to women. The page has no examples. In fact, the two examples the page gives of guys who are going green are a rock star and a rich and famous actor. Both men are good looking. Women would be attracted to them whether they were going green or industrial level polluters. This shows that going green has no effect on a man’s attractiveness. If a man is already attractive, then going green won’t have a negative effect, but it won’t have a positive effect either. If an unattractive man goes green, women won’t care and will treat him the same as they did before.
A while ago, I was in downtown Vancouver for several days. There was this homeless guy who was picking up trash and trying to keep part of the downtown area clean and green. (He was doing this as a form of panhandling, but he was trying to do something rather than just hold his hand out.) It was pretty obvious that this homeless guy was not getting laid at all. His decision to be green did not help him proving the page at The Dickless Mangina Project to be a complete lie. This is just another example of trying to use dating advice to manipulate men into a political ideology.
Why are there all these attempts to link being successful at getting women with believing in the “right” political ideology? It is because most people believe in the Just World Fallacy when it comes to men and dating/relationships/sex. They believe that a man who is successful at getting women must have the “right” politics whatever they believe the “right” politics to be. This is because having the “right” politics is believed by most people to be equivalent to being moral and virtuous. In the page from The Dickless Mangina Project, the “right” politics happens to be environmentalism. For others it is feminism. For the manuresphere, it is racism and anti-semitism. The reality is that the Just World Fallacy is a fallacy for a reason. There is no connection between being attractive to women and having a particular set of political beliefs. In fact, there is no connection between being attractive to women and being moral and virtuous.
Tamerlame brought this article from AVFM to our attention where AVFM calls out Roosh (and Matt Forney) for selling piece of shit “supplements” and game that doesn’t work and doesn’t exist. While I liked a good portion of the article, one of the problems with it is that AVFM will be in bed Roosh again next week. They have a yo-yo relationship.
There is a fundamental flaw in the article, namely accusing Roosh (and Forney) of being rapists. If you believe what they have written, they may be rapists. However, that is all predicated on whether Roosh (and Forney) are getting laid or not. By definition rapists get laid. A man who doesn’t get laid can not logically be a rapist. If you know that game is bullshit, if you have talked to men who have had disastrous results from trying game (as Dean Esmay, the author, has), why would you believe that Roosh and Forney are rapists given that their alleged rape exploits are based on game working? On the one hand Dean Esmay says that game doesn’t work. On the other hand, he is accusing Roosh and Forney of being game based rapists which mean that game must work at some level. Why doesn’t AVFM go in for the kill shot on these two and point out that their rape stories are lies so that they can pretend they are getting laid? Why doesn’t AVFM point out that it costs $6500 for Roosh to get laid? Even when AVFM is attacking Roosh, it is still propping up Roosh.
There are two possible reasons I can see that AVFM isn’t going in for the kill. One, they’re going to flip flop on Roosh again. Two, like with the rest of the manuresphere, they won’t give up on game because it would be an admission that the best thing for any man to simply avoid women. AVFM is too filled with tradcons and other assorted old guys to speak the truth about women.
All of the major personalities (and minor personalities) in the manuresphere are incapable of holding down jobs. This is why they try to sell books and other media about game. They don’t have the ability to produce anything of value.
It’s not just the manuresphere either. Men with similar beliefs have the same problem. Take Angelo John Gage, a white vagina worshiping nationalist, who Barbarossa talked about due to his emotional female like rant where he blamed MGTOW for the New Year’s Eve rapes in Germany (which we don’t even know if they happened). I did a search on Gage and found out that what he does for a living is “teach” NLP (neurolinguistic programming) and hypnosis. He also is a “life coach”. NLP was a predecessor to game, and it’s a scam in its own right. Life coaching is also a scam. In other words, Gage is a con artist just like the major personalities of the manuresphere.
It’s not a coincidence that Gage is a con artist. Any man who starts buying into manuresphere ideology or one of its components like white vagina worshiping nationalism is going to have trouble with gainful productive employment or running their own business. All that is left for them is to become a con artist trying to sell game (or something related like NLP).
The same thing was true with white vagina worshiping nationalists before they discovered game. The redemption conspiracy theory is a conspiracy theory where there was a secret account of $630,000 which you could access if you signed the right government forms. This conspiracy theory was created by Roger Elvick, a white vagina worshiping nationalist, who used the conspiracy theory to defraud other white vagina worshiping nationalists. Elvick ended up in jail but lots of white vagina worshiping nationalists STILL believe that the redemption conspiracy theory isn’t a scam.
This just proves that white vagina worshiping nationalists (including the manuresphre) are all con artists by definition. They hate MGTOW because MGTOW will never fall for their scams.
We have been talking about how Paul Elam and Roosh have started a feud. This seems strange since AVFM has been pretty pro-Roosh, especially since AVFM has Obsidian still writing for it. It gets stranger if you dig deeper. I tried reading some of things that AVFM was saying about Roosh and PUAs in general, and it is all over the place. They say that they are against PUA works yet they give Roosh a platform. They complain that feminists are unfairly conflating MRAs and PUAs (which is true), but they give the feminists ammo running a bunch of posts defending PUAs. There’s lots of contradictions like that if you take a look at what AVFM has been saying about PUAs. So what is going on here?
As far as I can tell, what AVFM is doing is part of the MDAD (Misandrist Dating Advice Distraction). AVFM has completely alienated MGTOW by lying about it, and AVFM’s track record in terms of action for men’s rights is abysmal. AVFM is in a bind so out of desperation AVFM is playing some sort of strange game with Roosh by constantly switching between being for and against Roosh to stay relevant by generating PUA content. (Using non-manuresphere PUAs won’t work for AVFM’s purposes so they are stuck with manuresphere PUAs which means Roosh now.) Roosh is an attention whore so he’s happy to oblige.
What AVFM is doing is using dating advice to distract from their failures at advancing mens rights. That makes it part of the MDAD (Misandrist Dating Advice Distraction).
Tamerlame brought this page on the MGTOW reddit about the MGTOW manifesto to our attention. I knew the MGTOW manifesto was fraudulent, but it turns out it is way more fraudulent than I could have imagined. The author of the page on the MGTOW reddit even discovered that that MGTOW manifesto didn’t exist in 2004 when MGTOW allegedly started. Everything about the MGTOW manifesto is a fraud.
Anyone who takes the MGTOW manifesto seriously is full of shit and trying to use it as a club to attack MGTOW. The guys attacking MGTOW can be best described by this pic Stoner created.
I wrote about back in August how at Dalrock, they were blaming demons for the actions of women. The manuresphere obsession with demons isn’t limited to the Dalrock blog. Return of
Kings Court Jesters also believes in demons. If you read the comments, most of the commenters believe that Ouija boards are the like are real in that they can summon demons.
I don’t know if demons exist or not. What I know is that Return of
Kings Court Jesters and all of the other major personalities don’t want you to see that game doesn’t exist. Thus they flood you will rubbish about demons, conspiracy theory, and other things that have nothing to do with meeting women and getting laid. If you are too busy worrying that demons are hiding under your bed, you won’t notice that game isn’t working for you or anyone else.
There’s a myth going around that the recent Oregon shooter was an incel (involuntary celibate) virgin. The justification for this is based on posts he allegedly made on the r9k board on 4chan. That’s very weak evidence, and it turns out that r9k was trying to frame one of its own users, Eggman, as the shooter. Even if other evidence supposedly surfaces that the shooter was an incel virgin, it should be treated with skepticism. The media said that he is a white supremacist, even though he is actually mixed race, so the media can not be trusted to report accurate details about the shooter.
The real reason so many people want to label the Oregon shooter an incel virgin isn’t about the whatever was written on 4chan. It’s because they believe in the just world fallacy in dating and sex (which is the basis of the feminist time machine). They think, correctly, that murdering lots of people makes a man evil, but then they assume that evil men can’t get laid or get into relationships with women. Thus, in the minds of most people being evil and being an incel virgin is one in the same. They also believe that if one is true than the other is true as well. In other words, this isn’t a case of evil men are incel virgins, but only some incel virgins are evil. What they believe is that being an incel virgin alone is evidence that a man is evil and will go around raping women and murdering people.
Believing that being evil and being incel virgin man is the same is very dangerous for incel virgin men. For example, DailyKos is now promoting a conspiracy theory that r9k is an “online domestic terrorist organization”. Some DailyKos users are suggesting that a list get created to track men, who I guess they would suspect of being incel virgins later, starting in third grade. (By their own admission such a list would be illegal and unconstitutional, but that doesn’t seem to bother them.) Other DailyKos users want the NSA to track incel virgin men. (I’m certain that everyone on DailyKos who wants the NSA to spy on incel virgin men was previously against NSA spying). There are even some other DailyKos users who think that the government is intentionally turning a blind eye to the so called “incel virgin terrorism”, possibly as a method to keep the public in a state of panic.
Such reactions aren’t limited to DailyKos. Jezebel declared that “sexually frustrated men” are “the real terrorists. (Notice how “sexually frustrated men” is a much larger category than incel virgin men.) Jezebel also demanded that “sexually frustrated men” be castrated (obviously such as castration would not be voluntary).
Other reactions appear to be less extreme at first glance, but on further analysis are not. Someone at Reddit is suggesting that camps be created for incel virgin men. That person had to put that they didn’t mean concentration camps in the title (which in itself is very revealing). If you read the link, it doesn’t sound sinister until that person says “lets round them up”. Even in a conversation about incel virgin men that looks innocuous on the surface still treats incel virgin men as terrorists who are going to snap at any second.
There are many more examples I could document, but this where the just world fallacy in dating and sex leads. If a man has any trouble getting getting laid or getting into a relationship, then lots of people, especially women, believe him to be evil, on the verge of a murderous rampage, and part of a incel virgin domestic terrorist organization (that is nothing but a conspiracy theory) that requires NSA spying to stop (NSA spying they were formerly against).
You are not safe if you aren’t an incel virgin. Jezebel included all “sexually frustrated men” as terrorists. DailyKos included #GamerGate as part of the incel virgin domestic terrorist organization conspiracy theory, as well as the MRM & MGTOW. If they don’t like something about you, then you will be accused of being an incel virgin, so that people can treat you as if you were synonymous with evil and part of a domestic terrorist organization.