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One piece of dating advice you will hear occasionally is to “lower your standards”. One reason its a common piece of dating advice is that it is designed to accuse a man of only chasing after supermodels. Thus, his datelessness is due to being an asshole and completely his fault. In reality, that is not what is happening. Men don’t need to be told to lower their standards because they have already done that. Ironically, this would be good advice for women because they’re doing what men are accused of doing. In fact, telling men to lower their standards is nothing more than a huge case of projection.
When you get past the “unwilling to data non-supermodels” BS, there’s another aspect of “lowering your standards” that is very dangerous. Here is an example that came from another thread asking the denizens of the ForeverAlone reddit if they would rather be single or a cuckold like the previous one I wrote about. One man answered that he would rather be single, and this was a serious response.
Refuse to be abused as a cuckold? Your standards are too high
Refuse to be abused as a victim of small penis humiliation? Your standards are too high.
Refuse to be beaten up and abused by a dominatrix? Your standards are too high.
We know that The Reserves attracts predatory women who want to humiliate and abuse men with few or no options. This is the reason being a cuckold is coming up so much now on the ForeverAlone reddit. Any man who refuses to be abused and humiliated as a cuckold (or a recipient of small penis humiliation, or a recipient of abuse from a dominatrix, etc.) will be shouted down with “your standards are too high”. They will also be told they are not really ForeverAlone because they have the option to be abused and humiliated. There’s a difference between lowering your standards and subjecting yourself to humiliation and abuse, but predatory women and desperate women are trying to smear them together.
What happens to a man who stays in The Reserves long enough without realizing that he’s better off without women? Eventually, he will suffer from what I call Reserves Desperation Derangement Syndrome from the waiting. The ForeverAlone subreddit (which is no longer about being forever alone since it is now controlled by women in relationships and maginas who worship them) has good examples of Reserves Desperation Derangement Syndrome.
One one end, we have a forever alone man who found a girlfriend. Sounds good, right? Except that she’s 10 years older than him, and she using him just to have a kid.
The man who wrote this is aware that he is just being used so that his girlfriend can have a kid. His follow up comments make it clear that he know that he is just being used for his money. It’s previous obvious that as soon as she has his kid and his money, she will dump him and go back to the men she actually wants to have sex with. This sounds pretty bad but compared to the next example, this was a weak case of Reserves Desperation Derangement Syndrome.
Someone decided to ask the ForeverAlone subreddit if they would rather be single forever or be married to a woman that cuckolds them. A significant fraction of the responses were men who would be willing to be married to a woman that cuckolded them even though they would get nothing they wanted from the deal. (Fortunately, a lot of men still had their self respect and chose to be single forever instead.) The men willing to be cuckolds are the ultimate in Reserves Desperation Derangement Syndrome. They are so desperate that they are willing to be cuckolded by a woman. They won’t get want they want because being cuckolded especially in their case is just play acting at a sexual relationship with a woman. These men represent the ultimate goal of keeping men in The Reserves, conditioning men to accept any behavior from a woman, no matter how abusive. And that is what cuckolding is, particularly in this case, abuse.
Someone may say that these men have a sexual fetish. That is clearly not the case. Holding these men in The Reserves has
conditioned brainwashed them into willing to be cuckolded and abused. Their own words make it clear that they do not get off on a woman cuckolding them. It’s clear that they are so desperate for female contact of any kind that they are willing to let themselves be abused by women. There are plenty of women ready to take advantage of these men from dominatrices trying to find more customers to women who get off on small penis humiliation.
The only answer to this is to refuse to be a part of The Reserves and GYOW. When a man goes his own way, he won’t be abused by a woman (at least not directly, being abused by the state working on behalf of women is a different matter). He will also have his self respect intact.
I have talked about how dating advice is used as a scam to convince people to believe in a particular ideology. While the manuresphere is a good example of this, using dating advice to make men believe in a particular ideology is not limited to them. The Dickless Mangina Project has a page about how going green will makes men attractive and sexy (and by extension get men laid).
If going green will get a man laid, then it should be easy to show examples of ugly and poor men who go green and become attractive to women. The page has no examples. In fact, the two examples the page gives of guys who are going green are a rock star and a rich and famous actor. Both men are good looking. Women would be attracted to them whether they were going green or industrial level polluters. This shows that going green has no effect on a man’s attractiveness. If a man is already attractive, then going green won’t have a negative effect, but it won’t have a positive effect either. If an unattractive man goes green, women won’t care and will treat him the same as they did before.
A while ago, I was in downtown Vancouver for several days. There was this homeless guy who was picking up trash and trying to keep part of the downtown area clean and green. (He was doing this as a form of panhandling, but he was trying to do something rather than just hold his hand out.) It was pretty obvious that this homeless guy was not getting laid at all. His decision to be green did not help him proving the page at The Dickless Mangina Project to be a complete lie. This is just another example of trying to use dating advice to manipulate men into a political ideology.
Why are there all these attempts to link being successful at getting women with believing in the “right” political ideology? It is because most people believe in the Just World Fallacy when it comes to men and dating/relationships/sex. They believe that a man who is successful at getting women must have the “right” politics whatever they believe the “right” politics to be. This is because having the “right” politics is believed by most people to be equivalent to being moral and virtuous. In the page from The Dickless Mangina Project, the “right” politics happens to be environmentalism. For others it is feminism. For the manuresphere, it is racism and anti-semitism. The reality is that the Just World Fallacy is a fallacy for a reason. There is no connection between being attractive to women and having a particular set of political beliefs. In fact, there is no connection between being attractive to women and being moral and virtuous.
In the comments of the last post, there has been a conversation about the importance of our rights instead of worrying about getting laid. This is why we must fight the MDAD (the Misandrist Dating Advice Distraction). While idiots are talking about how to get laid (and failing to do so) or complaining about women are not being attracted to them, they are creating a distraction from the real problem. And that real problem is that women are coming up with new strategies to take away our rights.
Here is a good example of that. Back in 2011 the manuresphere was saying (as it still does) that game will prevent false rape accusations. In 2011 women were creating a new way to take away the rights of men, by using Title IX to move rape cases from the criminal justice system to college “courts”. The Dear Colleague letter that started the whole college “courts” mess was written in 2011 while the manuresphere and others were busy trying to sell (fraudulent) ways to get laid. Now, we have a human rights travesty where men can get thrown out of college simply on woman pointing a finger at them. Worse, men attending college can have their lives ruined simply for resembling an alleged rapist.
We need to stop giving a shit about getting laid. We need to stop giving a shit whether women find us attractive or not. Instead we need to put a stop to the loss of our human rights. Otherwise, we men will all end up in concentration camps. Many men wouldn’t care if they ended up in a concentration camp. The manuresphere would start writing books about “concentration camp game”.
This is why we must fight the MDAD. If we expose dating advice (AKA all of this how to get laid bullshit) as a fraud (which it is), then there will be no way for men to ignore the loss of their human rights. There will be no way for women and manginas to hide what they’re doing behind, “You’re just pissed that you can’t get laid”.
It’s as simple as asking the question, “Do you want a blow job or do you want freedom and human rights?” And you’re not going to get the blow job, so you might as well pick freedom and human rights.
Eric S. Raymond’s reveal that women in tech groups were trying to falsely accuse Linus Torvalds of sexual assault got a particularly absurd reaction from someone writing a comment at New York magazine.
I wonder what Eric Raymond’s girlfriend thinks about all this. Wait. He doesn’t have one? What about his female friends? Few and far between? I’m so confused. Where does he get all his ideas on women if not from experience? Some intersection of confusion and repressed desire? Oh right, that is it. Poor MRA guys, all they need is a little love.
There’s a big, a huge, a massive problem with this (in addition to several other problems). ESR is married. This person didn’t even bother to check what ESR’s actual relationship status was (much less his dating history). Since ESR dared to speak out against a group of women, he was immediately accused of being an incel virgin despite extensive evidence of him not being one. There could have been videos of ESR banging supermodels on Youtube, and he still would have been accused of being an incel virgin.
The problem is that women and manginas are applying The Just World Fallacy to dating in the same way some rural Romanians believe that vampires exist. Thus to them, any honest criticism of women is bad, and any man who dares to criticize women is scum in every other way and deserves to be without dating, sex, and relationships. And they believe this automatically happens. ESR proves that they are all wrong, if not liars. However, this shows us that your actual dating history doesn’t matter. Even the most minimal of criticism of women will get people to accuse you of being an incel virgin, as if that was a crime.
I wondered what a fat acceptance movement for men would look like. Then I saw this, and it became clear to me.
The manuresphere is the fat acceptance movement for men. It’s not just that the manuresphere is filled with obese blobs, although that is a major part of it. It’s that the manuresphere says that looks don’t matter for men similar to how the fact acceptance movement for women says that a woman’s looks shouldn’t matter. Sure, the manuresphere says that men should lift weights, but look at any picture of manurespherians. Clearly, none of them lift weights, not even the few that aren’t obese blobs. Despite what the manuresphere says, they don’t actually believe in lifting weights.
Inherent in how the manuresphere peddles game is the idea that looks don’t matter for men. The manuresphere says that any man no matter how ugly can bang the hottest chicks provided they act “alpha” enough and/or do game routines of women. This isn’t true. Looks do matter. In general, the more attractive a man is the easier it will be for him to get laid and get relationships with women. This makes sense, but the manuresphere says different. Dating advice in general says the same thing since looks do matter can’t be used to sell anything except diet and excercise advice which is done better elsewhere.
Looks aren’t absolutely everything either. Many incel and forever alone spaces are guilty of thinking that looks are everything. It’s understandable since these men have been subjected to dating advice which says that looks don’t matter for men. It’s obviously false so it makes sense that these men would strongly endorse the opposite view. Regardless of this, any dating advice that says or implies you can be weigh 350 pounds and land hot chicks should not taken seriously. And that definitely includes anything coming from the manuresphere to “just be yourself” dating advice.
Something you will hear from not only gamers but all pushers of dating advice is that dating is a numbers game. They say that you need to talk to as many women as possible and ask them out. Of course, gamers and everyone else pushing dating advice hardly ever talk to girls. Thus, they don’t know if dating is actually a numbers game. A guy actually tried the numbers game advice. In this video, he describes his results.
That’s right. It didn’t work. He asked out tons of women, and it got him absolutely nowhere. Anytime when someone talks about dating being a numbers game, they are full of shit.
Advancedatheist brought up how dating advice sounds like magic rituals.
It’s actually worse than that because in many cases dating advice actually is based on anti-scientific, illogical, magical woo. I found an article on the Dickless Mangina Project where a woman responds to a man who is understandably frustrated how he has to do all of the approaching. Here is an example of the anti-scientific, illogical, magical crap.
Thus remember that what you resist persists… if you stay resentful… that means your vibration and beliefs are one of resentment… so you’re going to attract an experience to make you right about it. AKA a woman who says, “You better make all the decisions or I’m outta here.”
Vibrations? If women aren’t approaching you, then you’re vibrations are wrong? No woman is going to come up with the thought process of, “I was going to approach this guy, but since he has had to approach in his experiences with women, I’m going to avoid him because his vibrations are wrong.” This is insulting to our intelligence.
The author of that page on the Dickless Mangina Project runs a blog called Meet Mindful. In the above quote, she links to one of the pages on her blog about “manifestation”. Here are some excerpts from that page showing more of the same anti-scientific, illogical, magical crap.
Your ability to manifest a life you want is based on energy flow
The Universe responds to actions first, then thoughts.
The physical world is the last stop on the manifestation train. It’s where ideas are realized, broken down or reborn. Because the physical world is slower moving than any of the other creative levels, in order to become manifested, an idea must be in alignment with other things in your physical life. For instance, if all you think about is wanting love in your life, what you feel is lonely and what you do is isolate yourself from others and judge them, the Universe receives this as, “I’d prefer to be by myself, thank you.”
Asking for help is my final bit of advice. I am a fan of working with the angels and there are many just waiting to give you assistance when it comes to manifestation—Galgaliel: the angel of vibration, Jamaerah: the angel of manifestation, Amitiel: the angel of truth, and Metatron: the angel of thought—are all spiritual teachers of this process and can assist freely if you ask.
This is so absurd that it makes the manuresphere look like the pinnacle of scientific fact and rationality.
The universe doesn’t respond to anything. It is not a conscious entity. If it was, it certainly wouldn’t be a cosmic wishing well with strange rules. And energy flow? That’s a load of crap. You’re better off drawing a pentagram and sacrificing a goat. It makes more sense.
As for asking those “angels” for advice, that can either be absurd or dangerous depending on your belief system. If they don’t exist, they can’t help you. If you’re a member if a religion that believes in angels, then the angels listed above either don’t exist (Metatron isn’t referenced in the Bible anywhere) or are demons (Amitiel works with Lucifer, aka the devil). It seems like MeetMindful is using dating advice as a scam to trick men into the occult. We know that dating advice is commonly used as a scam to trick men into believing in various political ideologies, but using dating advice to trick men into the occult is one I wasn’t expecting.
If you’re going to go into the occult to perform magical rituals to get laid, then you might as well just sell your soul to the devil. While you lose your immortal soul in the process, the devil will deliver on his end of the contract. The dating advice industry can’t do that. Of course, you should not sell your soul to the devil to get laid (or for any other reason). If the devil doesn’t exist, then you can’t sell your soul to him and the whole enterprise is a waste of time. If the devil does exist, your immortal soul is more valuable than any woman so you shouldn’t give it up just to get laid.
One thing the manuresphere will tell you to do is lift weights. Unlike the rest of what the manuresphere tells you, lifting weights is a fine hobby. Yet, it’s not the requirement that the manuresphere makes it out to be. Given how much the manuresphere hypes lifting weights, you would expect manurespherians to be serious about lifting weights and exercise in general. However, you would be wrong.
All you need to do is look at pictures of manurespherians to see that they don’t lift or even care about excercise. Fatt Fuck Fornedarmu is one such example, but the manuresphere is filled with fat blobs like Fatt Fuck Fornedarmu. (Barbarossa has pointed out that the picture to the left was taken after Fatt Fuck Fornedarmu was supposed to have been on a two year diet and exercise regimen that failed.) They are even too stupid to see their own hypocrisy when they accuse MGTOWs of eating Cheetos and masturbating all day and attacking others for being fat. (Ironically, it’s likely that the targets of the manuresphere’s fat shaming campaigns are less fat than the fat blobs of the manuresphere.)
Given that the manuresphere is incapable of exercising, it’s no surprise they fall for scams like the paleo diet. It promises a quick cure all to being a fat blob. Yet, as we see from the fat blobs of the manuresphere, it does not work. Beyond that we have to wonder how man manurespherians say they’re on the paleo diet, but are too lazy to actually follow that scam diet. Why should you listen to diet advice from guys who either can’t follow through with a scam diet like the paleo diet or conclusively prove that it doesn’t work?
This “do as I say, not as I do” attitude is prevalent throughout the manuresphere. Some of the biggest proponents of game, are guys who have never actually tried game themselves to see if it actually works. They just heard it does from other manurespherians. Why should you listen to dating advice from guys who haven’t even tried it themselves but heard it works from someone else? The manuresphere can’t even follow its own advice when it comes to something everyone knows is healthy like lifting weights. If they can’t do that, then there is no reason to listen to them on bullshit like the paleo diet or game or any other weird shit they believe.
The problem of not following their own dating advice extends beyond the manuresphere and into the dating advice industry in general. Pretty much any dating advice you get is going to be from someone who hasn’t tried it themselves. (This is not surprising as most dating advice is designed to keep you in The Reserves and not actually help you get dates/sex/girlfriends.) There is the alternative of actually running experiments with dating advice and gathering data to see how it works, but such things are kryptonite to the dating advice industry. Since they’re unwilling to perform experiments and gather data, their unwillingness to use their own dating advice proves it’s bullshit.