Even If You Can Easily Get Laid, You Will Be Treated As A Loser Who Can’t Get Laid

Eric S. Raymond’s reveal that women in tech groups were trying to falsely accuse Linus Torvalds of sexual assault got a particularly absurd reaction from someone writing a comment at New York magazine.

I wonder what Eric Raymond’s girlfriend thinks about all this. Wait. He doesn’t have one? What about his female friends? Few and far between? I’m so confused. Where does he get all his ideas on women if not from experience? Some intersection of confusion and repressed desire? Oh right, that is it. Poor MRA guys, all they need is a little love.

There’s a big, a huge, a massive problem with this (in addition to several other problems).  ESR is married.  This person didn’t even bother to check what ESR’s actual relationship status was (much less his dating history).  Since ESR dared to speak out against a group of women, he was immediately accused of being an incel virgin despite extensive evidence of him not being one.  There could have been videos of ESR banging supermodels on Youtube, and he still would have been accused of being an incel virgin.

The problem is that women and manginas are applying The Just World Fallacy to dating in the same way some rural Romanians believe that vampires exist.  Thus to them, any honest criticism of women is bad, and any man who dares to criticize women is scum in every other way and deserves to be without dating, sex, and relationships.  And they believe this automatically happens.  ESR proves that they are all wrong, if not liars.  However, this shows us that your actual dating history doesn’t matter.  Even the most minimal of criticism of women will get people to accuse you of being an incel virgin, as if that was a crime.

The Manuresphere Is The Fat Acceptance Movement For Men

I wondered what a fat acceptance movement for men would look like.  Then I saw this, and it became clear to me.

The manuresphere is the fat acceptance movement for men.  It’s not just that the manuresphere is filled with obese blobs, although that is a major part of it.  It’s that the manuresphere says that looks don’t matter for men similar to how the fact acceptance movement for women says that a woman’s looks shouldn’t matter.  Sure, the manuresphere says that men should lift weights, but look at any picture of manurespherians.  Clearly, none of them lift weights, not even the few that aren’t obese blobs.  Despite what the manuresphere says, they don’t actually believe in lifting weights.

Inherent in how the manuresphere peddles game is the idea that looks don’t matter for men.  The manuresphere says that any man no matter how ugly can bang the hottest chicks provided they act “alpha” enough and/or do game routines of women.  This isn’t true.  Looks do matter.  In general, the more attractive a man is the easier it will be for him to get laid and get relationships with women.  This makes sense, but the manuresphere says different.  Dating advice in general says the same thing since looks do matter can’t be used to sell anything except diet and excercise advice which is done better elsewhere.

Looks aren’t absolutely everything either.  Many incel and forever alone spaces are guilty of thinking that looks are everything.  It’s understandable since these men have been subjected to dating advice which says that looks don’t matter for men.  It’s obviously false so it makes sense that these men would strongly endorse the opposite view.  Regardless of this, any dating advice that says or implies you can be weigh 350 pounds and land hot chicks should not taken seriously.  And that definitely includes anything coming from the manuresphere to “just be yourself” dating advice.

It’s Not A Numbers Game

Something you will hear from not only gamers but all pushers of dating advice is that dating is a numbers game.  They say that you need to talk to as many women as possible and ask them out.  Of course, gamers and everyone else pushing dating advice hardly ever talk to girls.  Thus, they don’t know if dating is actually a numbers game.  A guy actually tried the numbers game advice.  In this video, he describes his results.

That’s right.  It didn’t work.  He asked out tons of women, and it got him absolutely nowhere.  Anytime when someone talks about dating being a numbers game, they are full of shit.

This Makes As Much Sense As Drawing A Pentagram And Sacrificing A Goat Or Selling Your Soul To The Devil

Advancedatheist brought up how dating advice sounds like magic rituals.

OT: Have you noticed how some dating advice sounds like magic rituals?

The one about learning to dance makes me laugh. You might as well tell the incel to draw a pentagram on the ground and sacrifice a goat over it to appease the fertility gods.

It’s actually worse than that because in many cases dating advice actually is based on anti-scientific, illogical, magical woo.  I found an article on the Dickless Mangina Project where a woman responds to a man who is understandably frustrated how he has to do all of the approaching.  Here is an example of the anti-scientific, illogical, magical crap.

Thus remember that what you resist persists… if you stay resentful… that means your vibration and beliefs are one of resentment… so you’re going to attract an experience to make you right about it. AKA a woman who says, “You better make all the decisions or I’m outta here.”

Vibrations?  If women aren’t approaching you, then you’re vibrations are wrong?  No woman is going to come up with the thought process of, “I was going to approach this guy, but since he has had to approach in his experiences with women, I’m going to avoid him because his vibrations are wrong.”  This is insulting to our intelligence.

The author of that page on the Dickless Mangina Project runs a blog called Meet Mindful.  In the above quote, she links to one of the pages on her blog about “manifestation”.  Here are some excerpts from that page showing more of the same anti-scientific, illogical, magical crap.

Your ability to manifest a life you want is based on energy flow

The Universe responds to actions first, then thoughts.

The physical world is the last stop on the manifestation train. It’s where ideas are realized, broken down or reborn. Because the physical world is slower moving than any of the other creative levels, in order to become manifested, an idea must be in alignment with other things in your physical life. For instance, if all you think about is wanting love in your life, what you feel is lonely and what you do is isolate yourself from others and judge them, the Universe receives this as, “I’d prefer to be by myself, thank you.”

Asking for help is my final bit of advice. I am a fan of working with the angels and there are many just waiting to give you assistance when it comes to manifestation—Galgaliel: the angel of vibration, Jamaerah: the angel of manifestation, Amitiel: the angel of truth, and Metatron: the angel of thought—are all spiritual teachers of this process and can assist freely if you ask.

This is so absurd that it makes the manuresphere look like the pinnacle of scientific fact and rationality.

The universe doesn’t respond to anything.  It is not a conscious entity.  If it was, it certainly wouldn’t be a cosmic wishing well with strange rules.  And energy flow?  That’s a load of crap.  You’re better off drawing a pentagram and sacrificing a goat.  It makes more sense.

As for asking those “angels” for advice, that can either be absurd or dangerous depending on your belief system.  If they don’t exist, they can’t help you.  If you’re a member if a religion that believes in angels, then the angels listed above either don’t exist (Metatron isn’t referenced in the Bible anywhere) or are demons (Amitiel works with Lucifer, aka the devil).  It seems like MeetMindful is using dating advice as a scam to trick men into the occult.  We know that dating advice is commonly used as a scam to trick men into believing in various political ideologies, but using dating advice to trick men into the occult is one I wasn’t expecting.

If you’re going to go into the occult to perform magical rituals to get laid, then you might as well just sell your soul to the devil.  While you lose your immortal soul in the process, the devil will deliver on his end of the contract.  The dating advice industry can’t do that.  Of course, you should not sell your soul to the devil to get laid (or for any other reason).  If the devil doesn’t exist, then you can’t sell your soul to him and the whole enterprise is a waste of time.  If the devil does exist, your immortal soul is more valuable than any woman so you shouldn’t give it up just to get laid.

Does The Manuresphere Even Lift?

One thing the manuresphere will tell you to do is lift weights.  Unlike the rest of what the manuresphere tells you, lifting weights is a fine hobby.  Yet, it’s not the requirement that the manuresphere makes it out to be.  Given how much the manuresphere hypes lifting weights, you would expect manurespherians to be serious about lifting weights and exercise in general.  However, you would be wrong.

Fatt Fuck Fornedarmu says you’re a loser who masturbates and eats Cheetos all day and doesn’t understand why you and many other people are laughing at him.

All you need to do is look at pictures of manurespherians to see that they don’t lift or even care about excercise.  Fatt Fuck Fornedarmu is one such example, but the manuresphere is filled with fat blobs like Fatt Fuck Fornedarmu.  (Barbarossa has pointed out that the picture to the left was taken after Fatt Fuck Fornedarmu was supposed to have been on a two year diet and exercise regimen that failed.) They are even too stupid to see their own hypocrisy when they accuse MGTOWs of eating Cheetos and masturbating all day and attacking others for being fat.  (Ironically, it’s likely that the targets of the manuresphere’s fat shaming campaigns are less fat than the fat blobs of the manuresphere.)

Given that the manuresphere is incapable of exercising, it’s no surprise they fall for scams like the paleo diet.  It promises a quick cure all to being a fat blob.  Yet, as we see from the fat blobs of the manuresphere, it does not work.  Beyond that we have to wonder how man manurespherians say they’re on the paleo diet, but are too lazy to actually follow that scam diet.  Why should you listen to diet advice from guys who either can’t follow through with a scam diet like the paleo diet or conclusively prove that it doesn’t work?

This “do as I say, not as I do” attitude is prevalent throughout the manuresphere.  Some of the biggest proponents of game, are guys who have never actually tried game themselves to see if it actually works.  They just heard it does from other manurespherians.  Why should you listen to dating advice from guys who haven’t even tried it themselves but heard it works from someone else?  The manuresphere can’t even follow its own advice when it comes to something everyone knows is healthy like lifting weights.  If they can’t do that, then there is no reason to listen to them on bullshit like the paleo diet or game or any other weird shit they believe.

The problem of not following their own dating advice extends beyond the manuresphere and into the dating advice industry in general.  Pretty much any dating advice you get is going to be from someone who hasn’t tried it themselves.  (This is not surprising as most dating advice is designed to keep you in The Reserves and not actually help you get dates/sex/girlfriends.)  There is the alternative of actually running experiments with dating advice and gathering data to see how it works, but such things are kryptonite to the dating advice industry.  Since they’re unwilling to perform experiments and gather data, their unwillingness to use their own dating advice proves it’s bullshit.

Predatory Sex Therapists In Silicon Valley

I found this article about how sex therapy in Silicon Valley is a booming business.  What it doesn’t tell you is that these sex therapists are preying on male techies in a way that should be considered malpractice. Let’s look at what these sex therapists have to say.

There’s something else at play here, though: In general, tech workers are more vulnerable to issues around love and intimacy, according to several local sex therapists I’ve interviewed. The reasons for this are wide-ranging, but in Dan’s particular case, it resulted from being tagged as a prodigy at a young age. He excelled in science and was encouraged to pursue it to the exclusion of all else.

“These are the tropes of tech development,” says Elizabeth McGrath, his sex therapist, who shared his story with me. (McGrath did not give me her patient’s name, and asked me to use a pseudonym when writing about him.) “To his mind, and his processing, there was no desire to prioritize anything other than that.”

No, this is not a trope of tech development. Even by the sex therapist’s admission, tech guys are in a path created by external forces, yet she tries to make this the fault of tech guys. What actually happened is that these men were being groomed for The Reserves. However, it worked a little too well. These guys managed to avoid getting ensnared by used up women in a bizarre form of good luck for these guys. As we will see these sex therapists aren’t acting in the best interests of their male tech clients, but instead are trying to reroute them back into The Reserves.

“[These men] often spend their time in environments that are mostly male, like in school and tech offices,” explains another therapist, Celeste Hirschman. “So they don’t have a lot of practice just relating to women, period, let alone learning how to meet, pickup, seduce, touch.”

Of course, this is true, but that’s because women don’t want them until they need a chump with money to pay their bills. How do these sex therapists help men get practice with women?

Hirschman follows a less-traditional therapy method known as Somatica, which is “body-based” and allows for non-genital touch between the counselor and client, the idea being that there are things that can’t be learned through talk alone. For example, she will wrestle with clients just to get them out of their heads and into their bodies.

“Less traditional” likely means crackpot in this case.

“Getting them out of their heads” does not get them experience interacting with women. It certainly does not get these men experience actually having sex with women. And if they’re like the 40 year old male virgin that the article talks about, he is going to need significant sexual experience to have relationships with age appropriate women. Adult women who are virgins are practically nonexistent.

Another reason that a lack of sexual experience is a problem is that these tech guys won’t recognize women who are out to steal their money. The sex therapists say that such women don’t exist.

Hirschman says some of her clients will downplay or hide the money they make out of fear that it’s the primary reason a woman will be interested in them. “I had one client I was just talking to the other day, he said, ‘I don’t know if I want to bring women to my house right away because it’s a big, huge house and suddenly they’re wanting to nest after the second date and they haven’t even gotten to know me yet!’”

McGrath believes that while there may be women out there on the prowl for a Google billionaire, these men’s fears largely come from deep-seated personal insecurity. “Part of that is, ‘A woman couldn’t be interested in me for me,’” she says. “That is a common thread for many men who are in the tech industry. They have never been seen as ‘the boyfriend’ or felt attractive or sexy. They felt dorky or like outsiders.”

This is not personal insecurity. It is what they have observed not only in their own lives but in the lives of many other men. Playing this off as a problem that only affects “Google billionaires” is like saying that bank robbers only try to rob Fort Knox and not small town banks with lax security.

One thing that gets repeated over and over is how these tech guys are “too much in their own heads”. In other words, these sex therapists don’t want them thinking. In fact, these sex therapists attack everything that made the tech guys so successful.

Another common issue that these therapists encounter with tech clients is they treat sex like a line of broken code in need of debugging, or a mathematical equation. “That’s the crux of trying to interact with a human, though: there isn’t a formula,” says McGrath. “Human connection is not formulaic. Does it have statistics, can you look at data, can you research it and quantify it? Sure. But in one-to-one, it is always variable. That’s where those things fail.”

This is an admission that these sex therapists don’t want their male tech clients using their best asset, their brains, making observations, or using the scientific method. (As we know attacking the scientific method is common to purveyors of dating advice.) The tech guys might actually notice the real nature of women and how vile it is, not to mention that they are being scammed by their sex therapists.

However, there is a big problem for the sex therapists when they attack data and the scientific method. If the tech guys are wrong for using those tools, then sex therapy can’t be based on science which uses those tools. It means that what these sex therapists are doing is no better than voodoo. By selling their voodoo as therapy, these sex therapists are quacks and con artists. The reason they are in Silicon Valley is for the same reason that bank robbers rob banks. That’s because banks are where the money is, and in this case it has little to no security protecting it.

If Game Just Works Why Can’t It Be Completely Independent Of Ideology?

I have talked about how in many cases dating advice is a scam to sell an ideology.  Anyone who is doing that will deny that so I was surprised to find that Roosh basically admitted it.

Game is a collection of tactics/rules/behaviors that work, but it can’t exist in isolation without an ideology that complements it and gives men guidance besides just sex. Hence, neomasculinity, which even touches on the political nature of societies.

If game just works, why can’t it be completely independent of ideology?  In fact, if game did just work, it would have to be completely independent of ideology.  Otherwise game’s effectiveness would be dependent on belief in a particular ideology.

We can take away from this that game doesn’t exist because if it did there would be no attempt to tie an ideology to it.  By saying that game has to be tied to an ideology, Roosh pretty much just admitted that game is a scam.