Why Is Female Approval Needed For Dating Advice?

One of the ways that feminism controls everything is by making it so that everything needs female approval to be taken seriously.  Even the MRM is not immune from this.  While female MRAs like GirlWritesWhat and TyphonBlue are solid MRAs they would be nothing special if they were men.  Because they have vaginas, they are more important in the MRM than they would be if they didn’t.  I can’t blame A Voice for Men or any other MRAs for this situation.  It makes sense as a matter of expediency, but it demonstrates how everything is held hostage to female approval.

Dating advice is also held hostage to female approval.  In fact, it is held hostage to female approval to a greater degree than almost anything else.  Why is that?  Dating advice should be evaluated based on a scientific analysis of its results, on whether it works or not.  If a dating strategy works, it doesn’t need female approval.  Female approval doesn’t make a dating strategy work or work better.  It’s completely irrelevant to dating advice.  This is why no form of dating advice, including game, can be trusted.  All forms of dating advice are currently held hostage to women for the benefit of women.  Currently, every form of dating advice exists for the purpose of benefiting women not for helping men get more and better dates.  This is the definition the MDAD (Misandrist Dating Advice Distraction).

Roissyite gamers are constantly trying to get female approval for game.  They say that game is about “what works” for getting women, but if that were true they wouldn’t care about getting female approval for game.  Why is Susan Walsh even involved with the so called manosphere?  Because Ferdinand Bardamu (who is now gone) and other gamers spent months trying to convince her about game.  What good did that do?  Nothing.  It didn’t even benefit the gamers because even they discovered how Susan Walsh was trying to use Roissyite game for the benefit of women and not them.  Despite this Susan Walsh still has her defenders in the so called manosphere from Vox Day to Hawaiian Fat Blob because they are so desperate for a vagina owner to validate their dating strategy.

Susan Walsh isn’t the only example.  Denise Romano is another.  She was a psychologist that Obsidian (who is persona non grata in most of the so called manosphere) and other gamers tried to convince Denise Romano about game.  That was a waste of time too, even from a pro-gamer perspective.

Another problem that needing female approval for dating advice generates is allowing female scam artists to scam men.  Take Kezia Noble.  She runs a bunch of game seminars which is ludicrous because she has never been a man who has tried to pick up women.  Gamers will say (correctly) that you shouldn’t listen to women when it comes to dating, yet they love Kezia Noble.  Even when gamers say something right, they can’t do it because their need for female approval of their dating strategy overrides it.

The need for female approval is why there is no true dating advice for men.  There is currently no dating advice for men that will actually do its job and help men get more and better dates.  In principle, dating advice that benefits men could exist, but it probably won’t until feminism is completely defeated.

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108 comments on “Why Is Female Approval Needed For Dating Advice?

  1. Pingback: Why Is Female Approval Needed For Dating Advice? | The Black Pill

  2. One thing I hate about dating advice is that most of it is a one size fits all approach, even If not part of the misandrist dating advice distraction.

    Any dating advice will always have to be modified into being useful for yourself.

  3. it all comes back to the persisting “creepy loner” stigma that women stamp men with for the crime of not currently being attached to a female void. PUAs love to proclaim how they are the ones in control of everything, while the truth is that they are still slaves to the perception of other people and society (as well as slaves to their insignificant biological urges).

    • Don’t forget the shaming of men who are fucking multiple women (playas). Oddly enough women will say the best things about you and try to kiss up to you (a playa) if they believe they have a chance of getting you to settle down.

      If you fuck her and dump her, then she will shame you 10x harder than she shames “creepy dateless loners”.

      This proves that all shaming has one goal, getting men to commit to one woman (her specifically, the shame issuer). It’s the only arrangement where you’re not shamed (you will still be shamed for other things INSIDE of that relationship, but you will NOT be shamed for being IN a relationship with a woman).

      Fucking zero women = Bad Man
      Fucking one woman = Good Man
      Fucking two women = Bad Man

      Ya, we TOTALLY don’t see what you did there, all shaming has a goal to get men into female-beneficial relationships.

  4. Female approval – and advice should have no place on the dating scene. It is a conflict of interest.

    Any woman giving advice to any man about dating – such advice should be thrown in the trash where it belongs.

    Women tell themselves what they want to believe about themselves, “I want a nice guy”, “I want a guy who thinks about me once in a while” yada yada…

    The truth is, most women are attracted to the exact opposite of the types they hammer into men’s brains.

    This is demonstrated by the avalanches of female fan male that serial killers get while in prison (the ones that make the lame-stream media’s spewage anyway),

    No woman is going to say, “I want a guy that gunned down a bunch of defenseless people in a movie theater”…

    All this has been said a million times.

    Something that looks like a girl writes what is not an MRA.

    Well – actually I guess she is – but as you first mentioned, “The MRM is not immune from this”.

    She is simply regurgitating what other men have been saying for a long time. Now that a woman is saying it – the men who are not “pussy beggars”, “vagina worshippers”, “manginas” and “white knights” are all flocking to her and pedestalizing her.

    FRAUD!

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  6. For peeps wanting to use logic when it comes to romance, y’all certain seem to lack logic when discussing it.

    For instance: explain how do you even have a dating strategy without the involvement of women? Are you only referring to gay men? If not, at some point during the use of this strategy, if for no other reason than to see if it works, you will have to actually use it with a female involved.

    I know that it burns you to acknowledge that women have this right to say “yea or nay” to a request for a date, sex, or marriage. But the only possible way your demand that women NOT have say in anything involving intimate contact of any kind with them is to believe that women are not people.

    Now that is not logical although I would absolutely love to see your argument that women are not people, hence they have no right to say yes or no to a request such as “hey, wanna fuck?”

    • I see the manboobz trolls are starting to show up.

      I can’t tell if you’re really this stupid or just faking it. I think its the latter since you are the rest of the feminazis at manboobz are trying to slander me as a potential rapist.

      If you’re really this stupid, read this as many times as it takes to figure it out. A dating strategy should be evaluated on the results it produces. It doesn’t matter if uninvolved third parties with vaginas think it is a good idea or not. The opinion of women who aren’t involved does not cause a dating strategy to work or not work.

      When I need car repair, I go to an experienced mechanic because they have experience repairing cars. When I need a health problem resolved, I go to an experienced doctor because doctors have experience with medicine. Similarly, if I wanted to find out about how to date women, I would talk to a man who has a lot of experience with picking up and dating women if I could find one. None of you women have any experience picking up and dating heterosexual women so you are of no help when it comes to picking up and dating heterosexual women. Of course, the PUAs don’t have any experience picking up and dating women either so they are of no help either. Most dating advice books and websites are written by people with insufficient experience with picking up and dating women too.

      • Women give absolutely awful dating advice and this has been known for decades princess. We are not gamers or PUA around here, so you are already missing the point.

        The point we make here is that sex, dating, etc, HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MENS RIGHTS.

        I know it burns you that some men are more concerned about social justice than learning how to properly neg you. It is a symptom of poor socialization that you have failed to see you have reduced women to a sex object for the pleasure of men. I blame Soy.

      • re: trolls.

        Most of them won’t last long as we are not the brutish useless monsters/potential rapists anglo women have been socialized to view men as since the time of the First Great Awakening and we usually respond with legitimate questions not foaming at the mouth like they arrive doing.

        Problem with trolling people like us is that we just close the browser window and come back in a while when they’ve gotten bored.

        I think that’s called maturity, something princess seems to be sorely lacking.

      • Actually the most sensible thing would be to ask a female you are interested in “what are you looking for in a mate, one night stand or other romantic interaction?”

        HER not what your sister, mother, your best friend’s wife, the next cubicle over’s female, the latest nonsensical love manual, or even that guy who gets all the ladies. since usually even he has no real clue how he gets the ladies, he just does.

        Then be willing to accept what she says even if that means that you are unfortunately not what she is looking for without arguing with her.

        Had you originally said what you said in response to me your point would have been made quite clearly because it makes a hell of a lot more sense then not getting female input on a dating strategy ever. It was, in the words of my friend 13, poorly worded.

        I do agree with YBM’s point about PUA not really being about men’s rights unless you are one of those twits who thinks that a man should be able to get laid whenever he wants with whoever he wants and if he is not, he is having his rights violated.

        • even that guy who gets all the ladies. since usually even he has no real clue how he gets the ladies, he just does.

          By that logic, if that guy doesn’t know, then nobody else does. That means that dating advice is a completely useless enterprise. This is something I have been saying for a long time.

          Had you originally said what you said in response to me your point would have been made quite clearly because it makes a hell of a lot more sense then not getting female input on a dating strategy ever. It was, in the words of my friend 13, poorly worded.

          You’re the only one who had a problem understanding what I wrote. You came from manboobz, and I read your comments there so that is no surprise. I have read the complete thread over there and you people are attacking me for being a virgin and attributing things to me that I never said to falsely accuse me of being a rapist. (In addition, Manboobz refuses to post my comment where I point this out.) I know exactly what you people are doing.

      • No, I read it to my roommate and he could not understand what you meant either. Which since you read the Manboobz comments you know already.

        He also said you might want to stop being so angry. It bears repeating.

        Anyway, there are some rather helpful bits of dating advice out there:

        Take a shower.
        Brush your teeth.
        Seek therapy for your anger issues.
        Do not say rapey things.
        Respect boundaries.

        Beyond that, outside of talking to a psychologist (Ozy’s suggestion) for studies on what people want, you really are not going to get decent advice.

        • hahaha, look how dumb you are. You show up crying rape about every man who exists, even ones you have never met, nor will meet (bet you’ll have a snarky comeback for that line!).

          Stop making your poor pathetic roommate have to read bullshit that offends you on the internet. I feel sorry for your roommate that you had to bother him with your little internet wars.

        • No, I read it to my roommate and he could not understand what you meant either.

          So why is it non-feminists have no problem understand what I wrote? Because they aren’t trying to LIBEL me as a (potential) rapist and rape apologist.

          He also said you might want to stop being so angry.

          If he has something to say, he can come here and say it. Otherwise, he might be a figment of your imagination.

          Take a shower.
          Brush your teeth.

          I didn’t ask you for dating advice, but what makes you think I don’t shower or brush my teeth? I probably would have more luck with women not showering and not brushing my teeth.

          Seek therapy for your anger issues.

          Angry men get women all the time.

          Do not say rapey things.

          “Rapey” isn’t a word. Stop committing LIBEL against me with this “I’m a (potential) rapist and rape apologist” crap.

          Respect boundaries.

          I do this. Women have made it clear that they want nothing to do with me, so I have done by best to give it to them. This hasn’t stopped women from trying to destroy my job and take away my freedom. Women won’t be happy until I slit my throat.

          Pointing out that dating advice doesn’t work has nothing to do with my dating issues or lack thereof. Trying to provide me with (useless) dating advice (that doesn’t work) doesn’t change that fact that the entire dating advice industry is a failure and anti-male.

      • None of you women have any experience picking up and dating heterosexual women so you are of no help when it comes to picking up and dating heterosexual women.

        This is a finding confirmed by a female-lesbian-feminist author who confirmed this when she decided to live as a man for a year.

        BEFORE the transformation (she, like most women) had this stupid hubris where she believed she knew how to pick up women because she was a woman herself, and heck, as a lesbian she had picked up women succesfully and effortlessly!

        To her shock, when she went into a transformation to become a man, she was shocked to find that all she encountered was ridicule, and cold vicious rejections from men. She couldn’t believe it.

        And she even thought herself a gender expert before she became a man… she had to become one to learn just how freaking ignorant women are about how dating women works.

        • when she went into a transformation to become a man, she was shocked to find that all she encountered was ridicule, and cold vicious rejections from men. She couldn’t believe it.

          Rejections from WOmen.

  7. “Given that someone as allergic to female opinion as Mr. Pill is unlikely to fully understand or appreciate the notion of consent, I’m thinking it’s just as well that he remains a virgin.”

    look at Fatrelle’s shaming language….

    I bet he had to put down the triple decker cheeseburger and 62 ouncer of mountain dew just to write that….

    I’ve never seen Mr.Black Pill advocate rape or abuse….

    I have however seen some reprehensible “rape appology” here…

    http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2012/09/19/is-it-rape-if-you-dont-mean-for-it-to-be-rape/#comment-526368

    maybe if these feminasties are the protectors of truth and justice ™ they claim to be they’d call Amanhater Marcrappy out for her bigotry….

    • I’ve never seen Mr.Black Pill advocate rape or abuse…

      This is correct. It’s very telling that manboobz has to attack me for being a virgin and has to falsely accuse me of being a rapist. He also won’t let any comment through on his blog where I point this out.

      • No one has said that you have raped anyone at manboobz, dude.

        What they’re saying is that literally the only way to achieve sexual success with a woman without getting taking ‘female approval’ into account at some point is to rape.

        I know that’s not what you meant, but your phrasing was really unfortunate.

        • “No one has said that you have raped anyone at manboobz, dude.”

          Lie, we all can see whats written in that thread. You are posting falsities. Your pitiful attempt at a lecture toward Blackpill about optics of his post falls flat the second we saw where the trackbacks were coming from.

          You are a liar, and a fraud.

        • If you read the thread, you’d see that I said to everyone that I was going to try to engage in good faith here.

          You’d also see that no one said that he’s raped anybody. Quote someone who did and I’ll come correct.

          What they ARE saying is that if you want a method to get women that doesn’t require female approval, your only option is rape. Every way to have a relationship or sex with a woman requires listening to a woman, and it’s unsettling to suggest otherwise.

          “J’accuse” all you want, but if you’re going to accuse me of discussion is bad faith, don’t come at me with it.

        • Your premises are flawed on their face:

          You arrived to lecture Blackpill on a topic you don’t understand.

          You deliberately use O’Reilly-logic to avoid having to accept that fact that there are implications that Blackpill is a potential rapist EVERYWHERE in that thread. Not that anglo-american white women ever think men are anything EXCEPT potential rapists and child molesters, a cultural trait you are probably ignorant of.

          You then accuse people of being mean to avoid having to assess your own errors. Maybe your accuse me of word-rape next?

          Remember who is the webmaster, and who is the guest who arrived under false pretenses to troll.

        • If you wanna stop engaging with me, ban me. We’ll both go back to the days we were having.

          That said, you are ascribing false words and motivations to me. Since you’re accusing me of selective perception too, I’d prefer that we talk about things that have ACTUALLY been said rather than what either of us is reading between the lines. Ok?

        • Ahh reading between the lines, you didn’t arrive here with having read between the lines when you accused blackpill of being a rapist?

          Shame on you, you are such a pathetic little liar you have to beg for favours when you get caught.

          😦 = you

        • wut?

          When did I, personally, even imply that blackpill was a rapist?

          Seriously, I haven’t even hinted at it. You’re putting words into my mouth.

        • I know that’s not what you meant, but your phrasing was really unfortunate.

          All the non-feminists here found my phrasing to be clear and highly informative. Only people who are threatened by the message (feminists) are “confused” by it.

          What they’re saying is that literally the only way to achieve sexual success with a woman without getting taking ‘female approval’ into account at some point is to rape.

          You don’t need approval from the greater mass of women.

          No one has said that you have raped anyone at manboobz, dude.

          Accusing me of being a potential rapist and rape apologist is the same thing. It’s still libel against me.

  8. Hey guy,

    In all sincerity, there IS good dating advice for heterosexual men out there, and it’s not PUA creeping.

    Most of it has to do with building your self-confidence, being secure in being single, finding points of commonality with women, proactive communication, and active listening.

    The things above are super sexy not just to women, but they’re usually very attractive to men when women do them.

      • Ok, I guess maybe just try relating to your target gender like they’re human beings and don’t treat people like shit by default?

        Nobody wants to sleep with someone who’s bitter about not being slept with. Talk about a huge turnoff.

        • I came to offer advice. You seem to think it’s useless. Could you please explain what’s wrong with it?

        • YOU LIE! I told a woman how pissed off I was – and I got a blow job in her truck in the parking lot of the casino we were at.

          Take your advice – take your “ohhh this is a turn off” – and stick it where the sun does not shine.

        • I hope you enjoyed your beej, dude, but your anecdata does not invalidate anything I said.

        • Ok, I guess maybe just try relating to your target gender like they’re human beings and don’t treat people like shit by default?

          That’s good advice for making friends/acquintances.

          However as a typical female trying to stay blind to female privilege, you’re purposefully blinding yourself to that BRIDGE between being someone’s acquintance and becoming their LOVER.

          Nobody wants to sleep with someone who’s bitter about not being slept with. Talk about a huge turnoff.

          Bullshit, I had my largest string of lays when I was bitter. In fact, I wanted to fuck everything in sight and just hit on as many pussy-owners as I could and asked them for sex to get over my biterness at female privilege. Pumping and dumping was a way for me to overcome biterness. it didn’t prevent me from getting pussy, it actually drove me to getting more of it.

          YOU KNOW WHAT THE BIGGEST FACTOR IN HOW MANY DATES A MAN GETS IS?

          It’s this (drumroll please) -> how many women he asks out.

          THE BIGGEST FACTOR IN HOW MANY LAYS HE GETS?

          It’s how many women he asks for sex.

          A bitter man who asks ten women out will LAY MORE women, than a happy man who asks two women out.

          A woman-hating misogynist who hits on 20 women, will fuck more women than a male-feminist who waits for women to make a move on him.

        • If you say so buddy. Not a woman, by the way.

          If I say so what? I made a dozen points and arguments. What are you responding to specifically?

        • Also, if we’re talking about “dating advice” and not just “fuck a lot of women advice”, even if your implication that being bitter is totes the way to drown in pussy were true, it doesn’t constitute good advice.

          Pump-and-dump may keep you happy, but it gets old for a lot of people.

        • Also, if we’re talking about “dating advice” and not just “fuck a lot of women advice”, even if your implication that being bitter is totes the way to drown in pussy were true, it doesn’t constitute good advice

          That is NOT what he said. He didn’t say or imply being bitter is the way to drown in pussy. He said that it’s largely irrelevant compared to other factors such as how many women you approach and how many women you ask for sex.

    • In all sincerity, there IS good dating advice for heterosexual men out there, and it’s not PUA creeping.

      First, this is not a PUA blog. I am anti-PUA crap.

      Second, just because you say there is good dating advice for heterosexual men out there doesn’t make it true.

      Most of it has to do with building your self-confidence, being secure in being single, finding points of commonality with women, proactive communication, and active listening.

      Except for “finding points of commonality with women”, those are platitudes, not dating advice. And women don’t let me find points of commonality with them so I have no clue if I have anything in common with women anymore.

      The fact that the dating advice industry is corrupt and feminist and a total failure at its stated mission has nothing to do with my personal situation.

      • I know this isn’t a PUA blog. I’m saying that they’re not the only people with useful stuff to say. I don’t think I’d want to trust an industry either, which is why I tend to crowdsource this stuff. Find confidants, talk it out.

        I don’t understand why these things are platitudes. I realize that being self-confident is not as simple as merely deciding to be so, but active listening IS as simple as consciously processing everything that someone says.

        I’m not sure what you mean when you say “women don’t let you find points of commonality with them.” If you make friends with a lady and ask her questions about her interests, you start to learn which things she likes that you have an interest in as well. This is where the active listening part comes in. Asking questions and then being genuinely interested in the answers is a GREAT way to make someone more likely to like you, male or female.

      • And I should say that if you’re saying that there is no such thing as foolproof dating advice, well, you are right.

        There’s no such thing as foolproof dating advice. Some women are just not gonna be into you, and neither game, nor communication, nor advice will change that.

        One of the facets of being successful at dating is learning to recognize that, as your first commenter noted, what works for one person won’t work for another, and that’s part of why most reputable ‘dating advice’ seems vague.

        • Dating advice doesn’t need to be foolproof. It just needs to work more often than it doesn’t. Otherwise it’s pointless.

          What I’m asking for would be considered perfectly reasonable if it were anything else.

      • ” just because you say there is good dating advice for heterosexual men out there doesn’t make it true”

        EXACTLY.

        And this “thing” inurashii has the audacity to say that my stuff is anecdotal.

    • even if your implication that being bitter is totes the way to drown in pussy were true, it doesn’t constitute good advice.

      Are you

      A) Illiterate?
      B) Misreading what I said on purpose?
      C) Lack reading comprehension?

      I NEVER SAID THAT “being bitter allows you to drown in pussy”. I WAS MAKING THE POINT THAT ITS A NON-FACTOR provided you initiate enough.

      DO
      YOU
      UNDERSTAND?

      Or do I have to explain a little slower?

      Pump-and-dump may keep you happy, but it gets old for a lot of people.

      Non-sequitor. We are not discussing which dating arrangements make whom happy. We are discussing your completely useless female-laziness defending “advice”.

      Your entire advice is BASED on ignoring the NUMBER ONE factor whether a man gets dates/sex/relationships/love or not. And that is *drumroll* whether he asks, because women sure as fuck don’t ask, being the lazy ones they are.

      Your anecdata ‘proving’ things, mostly.

      Your claims are also “anecdota”, but I SPECIFICALLY spelled out WHY I disagree with them.

      CAN YOU SPECIFICALLY say WHAT part you disagree with being true or untrue SPECIFICALLY? Saying “It’s anecdota” is not much an argument. You cann do better than that.

      ***Answer this question if you dare***

      Who was a bigger chance of getting into a relationship?

      -> A bitter man who asks 10 women out a week?
      -> A woman-loving man who doesn’t ask more than 1 woman a year?

      Don’t dodge the question, please. And PLEASE don’t strawman again by saying shit like “Oh wait, you’re promoting biterness”. I’m not. I’m just saying it’s a much smaller factor in outcomes for men dating than you would have us believe.

    • What he said is that dating advice is useless.

      You’re reffering to the author of this piece (BlackPill).

      I (alek) a different person refuted your claim that bitterness is a major factor in getting or not getting dates and that somehow getting less bittter magically makes you get women out of thin air.

      YOU completely distorted what I said into me promoting biterness.

      I don’t actually agree with BlackPill that all dating advice is useless. I do agree 99% of it is bullshit-fluff though (like most dieting advice, and most self-help advice etc)

      • I don’t actually agree with BlackPill that all dating advice is useless. I do agree 99% of it is bullshit-fluff though (like most dieting advice, and most self-help advice etc)

        Saying 99% of dating advice is useless is pretty much the same as saying all dating advice is useless since that 1% is likely to be accidental coincidences or statistical noise rather than dating advice that works.

  9. I think this might be an interesting topic to tackle in the future for you Blackpill:

    To women: Being a Virgin is the equivalent to being a rapist/potential rapist.

    • To women: Being a Virgin Making comments showing you lack an appreciation of consent is the equivalent a possible sign he is to being a rapist/potential rapist.

      There we go, I fixed it for you.

      • There is no perceptable difference between the two, your failed attempt at wordsmith notwithstanding. The point is the same:

        Man = Potential Rapist.

        I have a bottomless amount of pity for you that life for you is one endless mess of every man around you as a potential rapist. I feel sorry for your father,

        • Strictly speaking, it’s

          Unattractive Male = Potential Rapist

          They have to bring the made up rape thing in there, otherwise they’d look like a bunch of arrogant bigots demanding the right to victimise anyone they think is below them.

        • Can you spot the difference?

          First, “rapey” is not a word.

          Both of them are talking about women as a group. The first statement may not mean every single women in the world like the second, but that doesn’t matter. We’re also talking about dating advice and the dating advice industry not sex specifically.

          There is no advocacy for rape on this blog. For you and the rest of the trolls at manboobz to say so means you are all guilty of LIBEL against me.

      • Very few men understand consent when it comes to their own right in that regard. Have YOU sought the explicit consent of every individual YOU have engaged with sexually? Bet you haven’t.

        The cesspit from which you’ve emerged has as it’s single purpose doing harm to others or their efforts. It’s a haven for those with nothing to offer but an urge to drag others down to their level. Seriously creepy place best avoided.

      • You do not need to have female approval for sex.[=e rapey]

        – I only get sex from one-night-stands.
        – I always tell the women upfront that I want to have a night of no-string-sex and that she will never ever ever again see me naked or experience anything intimate with me after that night (not even a kiss)

        Most women in the general population do not APPROVE of my strategy.

        According to your dumb-fucked-logic “I am rapey” even though I have 100% consensual sex and I have gotten the consent long before the woman had even seen me naked. In fact, I spell out my exact sexual history, sexual preferences and even what my future plans are with 100% honesty before they even come to my place. But according to your “logic” I am “rapey” because the general female population doesn’t approve of my strategy.

        • The above was in response to “princessbonbon” who tried to equate the APPROVAL of a STRATEGY by females as a group, with the consent of a single female individual to an individual ACT.

          Simple example for stupid people
          Customers may not APPROVE of Apple selling the iPhone very expensively.
          However, if a customer walks into a store and voluntarily hands money over and asks to be charged for a new iphone, is she being ROBBED?

          According to “princessbonbon” if I don’t like Apple’s pricing, I am being ROBBED by the apple clerk, even if I voluntarily handed my money over to them and in fact stood in line for 72 hours camping outside begging for the product.

          According to princesbonbon, the fact that apple set their pricing high without caring about my approval, means that apple are thiefs who have robbed me.

      • Here’s another way to put it for princessbonbon

        Approval is weakly-related to mating. Let’s say I have a girlfriend.

        I may not approve of my girlfriend’s behaviour, how she acts around me or the music she listens to. I may not even approve of the strategies she used to get me to ask her out. (for example I hate women who use hints, innuendos and catty techniques toward female competitors to get the guy they want on a date – I APPROVE OF women who woman up, and ask me out). She might have done ALL of the things i disapprove of, and yet we’re still a couple. Is she raping me each time we have sex because she used a dating strategy I disapprove of?

    • To women: Being a virgin makes you a potential false rape accuser.

      To women: Being a virgin makes you a potential castrator.

      To women: Being a virgin means you are worthless as a human being.

      There – now it is fixed.

  10. Hey bp im out for a week, exams are starting so I need to do plenty of marking, hope the trolls give you some entertainment!

  11. Virgin rapists, huh?

    I guess that’s what you get with thirty years of affirmative action. By the time she reaches 21, the average women has spent years being able to write down any old pony and get an A+ with gold stars, even if – strictly speaking – she makes less sense than the average faeces flinging monkey.

  12. ‘I came to offer advice. You seem to think it’s useless. Could you please explain what’s wrong with it?”

    hahahaha,

    let’s all go over to manboobz and give fatrelle unasked for diet advice…..

    and with the caveat we realllllly caaaaare about his health and that all the extra food he is eating could saaaaaave the poor children in china…….

    we’d be called all kinds of kyriarchical misogynist fat shaming oppressors…..

    how funny is that…..

  13. hahaha, look how dumb you are. You show up crying rape about every man who exists, even ones you have never met, nor will meet (bet you’ll have a snarky comeback for that line!).

    Citation needed.

    Stop making your poor pathetic roommate have to read bullshit that offends you on the internet. I feel sorry for your roommate that you had to bother him with your little internet wars.

    Nah, he finds most of the silliness you spout funny. I will continue to read to him your comments so he has something to laugh at.

    • cause that’s what its all about for anglo-american bitches isn’t it? mock and deride they men. No wonder they men marry out at 4 times the rate they do, and date out 7 times the rate they do. They be extinct in 2 generations!

      eh, they are all rapists anyway know what I mean? But its good for the gene pool that umc white girls gonna be extinct soon

      🙂

  14. Manboobs, a morbidly obese and despicably ugly man, feels the need to perpetually degrade and insult other men so that he may bask in the presence of the lowest dregs of the female sex.

    Female approval. Any female approval at all. It is what Manboobs *lives for*.

    I would almost have pity for the man if he showed any sign of having a soul. As it is, one can only laugh.

    • http://manboobz.com/2012/10/04/tv-anchorwoman-responds-to-a-letter-writer-offended-that-she-dares-to-be-fat-in-public/#more-6465

      hahah, he goes around shaming Mr. Black Pill for being a virgin then gets butthurt over fat jokes…..

      to bad Mr. Manboobz when you bullied all those kindergardners when you were a 6th grader and stole all their lunches you got fat, well looks like karma ain’t too nice….

      people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones and he’s in an atrium….

        • Exactly. I do not normally shame men (or women) based on their physical appearance either, but the way Manboobs viciously employs these tactics despite his own glaring inadequacies makes him fair game.

          “Men who should not be with women ever” is my favorite Manboobs tag. It personifies everything he represents.

        • Exactly. I do not normally shame men (or women) based on their physical appearance either, but the way Manboobs viciously employs these tactics despite his own glaring inadequacies makes him fair game.

          I agree. Normally, I’m against shaming someone for their physical appearance. However, I make an exception for Futrelle and the so called manosphere because of the way they viciously employ those tactics. It’s the same for financial and employment shaming for me. I don’t agree with that normally either, but when it comes to the manosphere I use it because of their vicious tactics which they use in the same way Futrelle does.

  15. The tone of the manboobz visitors seems nice to me, but I don’t understand why they are offering dating advice, and the title of the post, and first sentence of both the first and second paragraph explicitly criticize the requirement for female approval of (first) everything and (second) dating advice.

    I don’t even necessarily agree with a fair amount of this but making this out to be a “female consent is unnecessary” post is…just, no.

  16. RG–

    allot of ideas have gotten “conflated.”

    I’ll explain from “my point of view”-not Mr. Black Pill or anyone else’s…

    First-I don’t think Manboobz is arguing in good faith….

    Second-the “traditional” male role is “initiator.” All that wash your hair, brush your teeth and actively listen…. While in and of itself not bad things to do leaves out the fact that 99% of the time it is on the male to take risky initiatives…. A rock star might get approached by a woman, a pro athelete, even a random shy guy but many guys who are decent guys will never or almost never get approached by women. Sure, the occasional woman may flirt in an ambiguous manner, but it is rare she will approach. So the so-called advice left out the biggest piece of the puzzle. It’s like saying, “you wanna get in shape? Go buy running shoes, go by some sweats, go buy a gym membership-there’s your fitness advice.” While you very well may do all that, that won’t get you fit. Everyone’s situation is different. Some will have to eat healthy, some will have to lift weights, some swim, etc,etc…

    We don’t know why or even if Mr. Black Pill is a virgin, still Manboobz is making fun of him. That is like going up to a random fat person and saying, you should lose weight, not just because it looks gross but because it is unhealthy. You should just stop eating at McDonald’s. I do make fun of him for his weight because it is a weak link in the bully’s armor-not because of hatred of fat people.

    Then, how (if he is) can a virgin be a rapist?

    No, Manboobz is bein intentionally dishonest.

    It’s like a rich person calling a poor person a thief, not because they have stolen anything but because they don’t provide utility to the rich person’s cause.

    • even a random shy guy but many guys who are decent guys will never or almost never get approached by women. Sure, the occasional woman may flirt in an ambiguous manner, but it is rare she will approach.

      You contradicted yourself.

      You also seem to be generally unaware of why a woman would not approach a guy. No, it is not because they are entitled bitches although that is what you will automatically think because you believe the worst of women regardless if they deserve it or not.

      Just as you refuse to accept that no one from Manboobz has not stated, even once, that Omega is a rapist.

      At most, and this is coming from me directly, the stuff he has said indicates he thinks consent is not necessary.

      It is a fine distinction and not a vast surprise it has flown over your and several other people’s heads. I suspect that Omega himself understands quite well .

      • “You also seem to be generally unaware of why a woman would not approach a guy. No, it is not because they are entitled bitches although that is what you will automatically think because you believe the worst of women regardless if they deserve it or not.”

        you are not a mindreader so don’t presume to “know” what I think only what I said….

        • also I didn’t contradict myself….

          occasionally women do approach men, even a shy guy–not often but occasionally….

          I indicated that it sometimes happens, has happened to me-not often though….

      • You contradicted yourself.

        Where’s the contradiction speficically? He was very precise in his languaging. He said flirt AMBIGIOUSLY.

        This means that most women on this planet will ONLY flirt in a way that means “I might or MIGHT NOT be interested in you, please take a chance and find out”.

        Meaning women are always putting the burden on men to risk brutal humiliation, rejection and embarrassment. Studies on women’s ambigious signalling show that it’s so mixed that no one can tell above chance if a woman is truly interested or not from assessing her action. In fact from the last study I saw the average woman is NO BETTER at reading women’s interest than the average man. In others words if both you and me watch a male and female interacting, you will have no better clue at whether she’s interested or not than I will (statistically speaking).

        The only way to find out FOR SURE if a woman is interested in something (say a kiss or holding hands or physical proximity) is if she doesn’t reject it.

        All that “be a decent human being” advice is a red herring really. Being a decent human being is merely a bonus. Hitler god laid, so drug dealers, cheaters, lier and scam artists. Heck wall street brokers get laid, and so do men who create pyramid schemes and men who poison little children for a living.

        YOU DO REALIZE that UNWITTINGLY saying that female victims don’t EXIST? ARE YOU THAT STUPID?

        ACCORDING TO YOUR shaming method of implying goodness = the reason one gets or doesn’t get… It means that a bad man can’t get a date, and all men in relationships are good. YOU DO REALIZE YOU SAID THAT?

        DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. YOU ARE EFFECTIVELY saying that all problems in all relationships are the fault of the woman (because you effectively say that only good men can get dates/relationships/love etc)…

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  18. First, “rapey” is not a word.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rapey

    Both of them are talking about women as a group.

    Why yes, they ARE. Gold star!

    The first statement may not mean every single women in the world like the second, but that doesn’t matter.

    Actually it does since it is showing the difference between a problematic statement and one that is not. It clearly outlines your intent and there are times when intent is really fucking important. Like say, when talking to a person about dating/sex.

    We’re also talking about dating advice and the dating advice industry not sex specifically.

    Either way, you still have to have both parties agree to do act X. And what you were saying is that a person’s consent was unneeded as that person was female.

    There is no advocacy for rape on this blog.

    You know, that may actually be true. I would have to go read all other nonsense you scribble to be sure and frankly, that sounds too tedious.

    But what this post in of itself has shown, you certainly are willing to say things that indicate you do not believe consent is necessary. Which is something that rapists agree with.

    For you and the rest of the trolls at manboobz to say so means you are all guilty of LIBEL against me.

    First off, libel is a civil allegation. In order for it to be a “guilty” it would have to be written specifically into the law that a person is guilty of a civil offense. Example: someone is guilty of forcible detainer.

    Second it has to be untrue. And guess what? No one said that you advocate for rape. What we have said is that you say things that rapists say. No, you are not a rapist. But you also say stuff that equals you do not think consent is necessary until called on it.

    As I said above, I suspect you know the difference but like plenty of people you wish to wrap yourself in your victimhood because otherwise you might just have to take a hard look at how you got to this point and why you are so angry at women (psst, it is not because some of them turned you down and some of them took offense to something you said. It goes much much deeper than that) and the rest of humanity who do not sooth your wounded pride and other feelings.

    • http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rapey

      No results found for rapey. Maybe that’s because the only use of the word is for a town in France.

      Actually it does since it is showing the difference between a problematic statement and one that is not. It clearly outlines your intent and there are times when intent is really fucking important. Like say, when talking to a person about dating/sex.

      We’re talking about the dating advice industry. It’s all over my post. You can’t miss it.

      And what you were saying is that a person’s consent was unneeded as that person was female.

      No, I wasn’t. Why can’t you stop lying?

      You know, that may actually be true. I would have to go read all other nonsense you scribble to be sure and frankly, that sounds too tedious.

      Since you admit to not actually reading anything I write, why should anyone listen to your opinion on it? You’re obviously full of shit now.

      First off, libel is a civil allegation. In order for it to be a “guilty” it would have to be written specifically into the law that a person is guilty of a civil offense.

      Many jurisdictions have criminal libel on the books.

      What we have said is that you say things that rapists say.

      This makes no sense. Rapists have said that the sky is blue. I have said the sky is blue. That’s an absurd basis for a comparison.

      On the other hand, actual rapists don’t talk about dating advice which was the subject of my post, so you are wrong and a liar.

      As I said above, I suspect you know the difference but like plenty of people you wish to wrap yourself in your victimhood because otherwise you might just have to take a hard look at how you got to this point and why you are so angry at women (psst, it is not because some of them turned you down and some of them took offense to something you said. It goes much much deeper than that) and the rest of humanity who do not sooth your wounded pride and other feelings.

      You admitted to not actually reading anything I written so you can’t possibly know this even if it was true. You have shown us that you are nothing but a lying feminist who is guilty of libel.

      • So in conclusion, the post was laser-focused on how game techniques (openers, negging, reading ioi, pawning, AMOGing, etc ) should not need the approval of Susan Walsh or any other woman who lacks field experience sarging women as a man, and game is nonsense anyway, yet the takeaway is that this is an implicit endorsement of rape?

        WTF?

        • So in conclusion, the post was laser-focused on how game techniques (openers, negging, reading ioi, pawning, AMOGing, etc ) should not need the approval of Susan Walsh or any other woman who lacks field experience sarging women as a man, and game is nonsense anyway, yet the takeaway is that this is an implicit endorsement of rape?

          WTF?

          Yes, WTF. I have noticed this a common technique among feminists. Take some topic that has something to do with female interaction with men and as soon as women get criticized for something, the critic will be accused of implicitly endorsing rape. I have seen this happen where a man suggests that women should treat men with basic decency, for example. That has nothing to do with sex, but feminists will call that an implicit endorsement of rape.

  19. “You know, that may actually be true. I would have to go read all other nonsense you scribble to be sure and frankly, that sounds too tedious.”

    you just proved YOU ARE NOT ARGUING IN GOOD FAITH-now go fuck off….

  20. It isn’t rocket science. Dating is a process of getting women to approve enough of you to have sex/a relationship with you. Of course you should listen to what they say they approve of, even if you believe they are unconscious of approving of other things they would never admit to. Just as if you want to pick up men, it’s a good idea to hear from a man about what he wants. You don’t have to take it at face value, but it is perfectly relevant to your success. If you don’t care about succeeding then do whatever the fuck you like.

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